I apologize for not writting very clearly, if anything has anyone ideas or comments that would be great. I understand this is not directly about 'dreaming', but I believe it has a lot to do with some of the more enlightening aspects of dreaming.


By my perceiving it (inanimate objects) should not perceive. There is no longer the question of if I perceive, or do existence exist. asking such has no meaning and no essence will be found there. I do exist, in some manner or form, some way, however obscure. I do perceive, even if this perceiving is not really perceiving but what non-perceiving has caused me to believe in the illusion of perception.
Whatever the case, this 'perceiving' is real, and there is no denying that fact. Therefore it could be said that it is through perception that all things exist, or rather it is because of the fact that things do indeed exist (as they MUST be) that has given rise to this abstract layer of reality we humans call perception, consciousness, or awareness. Things of the physical universe has always (indeed LONG LONG AGO) existed even before our own perception or awareness of the fact that such things exist. However it is still through our perception that we believe that things can exists outside of our own perceptions, it is still through our perception that we believe a 'perception' layer of reality exists at all! So maybe, could it be that it is actually through our non-perception (physical, raw data, etc) do we believe (falsely) in this model of perception, and thus perception of perception? Perhaps the better word to use is 'observation'. As infants or little children our 'model of reality' of the world was vastly different than the one we have developed today. Everything we know comes through our observations whether directly or indirectly. Our believes, our values, even our believe in 'perception' comes through observations. So just how much do we know? and in reality how much can we know? Is our model of reality limited at the threshold by our own human capacity of perception? OR so we think? How do we know 'perception' exists at all and that this whole thing is not just some ONE-NESS, and we, me, you (the individual 'I') the only reality that exists! Is it because of our limited domain of perception that we cannot understand the objective ultra-reality OUT THERE or is it because the nature of perception and awareness itself that makes us believe that we are in fact 'limited' in some way ? In both case, does it matter? We still believe we are 'limited' in some level or some aspect. If we are indeed hardwired to be limited (whether by our intellectual capacity, threshold of perception, etc) then there really is nothing we can do is there? But if our limits are soft, and they are self imposed limits, then knowing this we can break free from such limits at will.

Truth is this world seems physical enough. Believing in anything supernatural, or in things that which cannot be seen but are believed to be true resonates with the teachings of the Holy Bible and the adaptive evolutionary responses of man to insure his survival. (An active imaginary and ability to visualize hypothetical scenarios is an ability that suits man very well) (It is because of evolution that children are scared of snakes and of the dark) However, sometimes a dream may also seem 'real enough' until we awaken to the real reality. Whether in a dream or reality it is still always our own introspective perception, a model or representation the inner pseudo-reality
that our mind has created for us. Perhaps our consciousness and awareness exists in this inner reality When we are awake, the inner reality is constructed to mimic our external surroundings. When we dream, the inner reality exists on its own, without regard for external stimulus or raw data. all we can consciously experience is the inner reality created for us by the sub reality created in our minds. We are limited by our own limiting factors. Or so we think?? The above situation could be true ONLY if we are actually humans.

Now I do not know whether I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly, or whether I am now a butterfly dreaming I am a man." Chuang-tzu Chinese philosopher


So where is the starting point, the initial axiom in which ALL things come from?

And why has this been neglected for the entire history of mankind?
The Bible does not address this problem, neither does M-Theory or TOE.
To me these are all useless becuase they don't actually go an inch forward in true progress.