 Originally Posted by Alric
First off, people don't see common things, they see all sort of random things. Then even when some people do see common things, it is usually stuff people talk about. Alien abductions is a thing people talk about, so some people see those. Why do you think some people see these 'demons' as stereotypical representation of things in the media? It isn't too likely that an actual alien would look like a little grey man, but people see that because it is a popular image in media. Religious people tend to seem religious symbols like demons or angels. That seems to suggest that people are just seeing the sort of things they would expect to seem, and that it changes from person to person suggest they are not really connected other than we all live in a culture with some shared images.
As for your brain not working, that isn't true. Your brain is working, dreams are a natural thing every experiences. It seems far more likely that a slight miscommunication caused an entirely normal thing(dreaming) to happen after you wake, than to think your mind is drifting off into alternate dimensions. It usually only takes a few seconds and then the body fixes it self, so a minor error seems normal for an imperfect world where we have imperfect bodies. There is nothing to suggest minds can travel dimensions though. That isn't normal.
Also, sleep paralysis doesn't harm people. When you say demons are attacking people, what exactly is that supposed to mean? If a person has a habit of suffering through multiple sleep paralysis, does that mean the demon is attacking them over and over again? What exactly is the demons goal here? They just randomly trying to scare you? That seems like a rather odd goal for a demonic creature.
Also, I always found the idea that you can learn the 'truth' of the world through drugs to be a bit silly. There is no doubt that taking the drugs makes you believe you have found some deeper truth to the universe, but that is the effect of the drug. The drug is supposed to mess with your mind, especially stuff that makes you hallucinate. Even if you really could see demons while high on psychedelic drug, how would you possibly know a real one from a fake one? Everything you see and do while high on mind altering drugs is going to be suspect, because the drug messes with your sense of reality and makes you unable to tell what is real and fake. That is the purpose of the drug, it is what it is supposed to do.
It also seems silly to think ancient men high on psychedelic drugs have some secret understanding of the universe. It seems far more likely they just saw weird stuff, and not knowing anything about the brain and it's interaction with drugs, made up crazy stories to explain it. Seems like an entirely reasonable conclusion to me. You believe in animal spirits, you take some drugs and start tripping and a dog talks to you, and you think it is a dog spirit, or your god telling you something. Or maybe you were just seeing stuff because you were on drugs.
Firstly, people do see almost identical "stereotypical" egregores which look the same, and all over the world mirror what people describe, the randomness accumulates from the differing perspectives on the same causes. Secondly, experiences surrounding a non-individual idea with the same core concept represent similarities which are more alike than not. Thirdly, it is highly ironic how the "aliens, demons, and seemingly random entities" have been in millions of reported cases of sleep paralysis with close to identical descriptions and overall implications. Even more so, various religions throughout history have went as far as to name and categorize these entities. Finally, if one has experienced a form of fear, which in religious terms: opened their spiritual doors to fear based entities and they see the exact same beings despite their varying and highly diverse "shared influences", then your whole idea of shared images is contradictory in the way that people would have personalized projections and fears which would be diverse. The argument i'm trying to emphasize here is that, factually people have considerably diverse influences around the world, but regardless of the diversity of that fear, they have in-diverse personal experiences. Which clearly suggests that we are all being influenced by the same entities through various portals or dimensional doors known as emotions. Influences and experiences result in expectations, however these vary, what doesn't is the following hallucination.
As for your misinterpretation of my implication of the "brain not working theory": that was a reflection of external argument regarding sleep paralysis, as people seem to think hypnagogic hallucination only occurs due to some brain error while transitioning from awake to sleep state. Why that theory makes absolutely no sense, is you fail to explain why the experiences during these hallucinatory states are profoundly similar around the world regardless of experiences. Another reason why that theory makes no sense is that: there is no explanation for the sudden hallucination caused by going to sleep, which seems to imply dreams are also just a hallucination. Our bodies are near perfect, and I could only assume that the only reason we aren't aware of these dimensions all around us is due to our disease and poisonous environments, inhibiting our perception in a way that limits us from being aware of what is actually there and what is "just seeing things". What's absolutely hilarious about all of this is you think that psychedelic use distorts your perception, that's what high school psychology teaches kids. However when you realize what shamans actually did, you will understand that you are seeing a lot more "false realities" than those who undergo shamanism. You see, your entire life is a dream, and it is propagated by the tryptamines and neurotransmitters which experience stimulation during your bodies cycles of eating, breathing, learning, and experiencing. When you dream, your brain excretes DMT, a chemical found through scientific study in the brains of every tested animal and human. Dmt could be thought of as the cause of dreams, along with melotonin, tryptamine, and tryptophan. What's interesting is, when you wake up you are in another similar dream, the psychedelic trip you call "life" propagated by a collective chemical reaction caused by serotonin. Even more interestingly, serotonin is almost identical to DMT as a chemical compound, and many other significant chemical hormones that greatly influence our perception. So really, you're no different from any shaman, except you haven't lucid dreamed in the day time, you haven't dealt with the profound calling of the influences behind the veil's of your limited perception. You're on the same boat as the shaman ingesting a psylocibin mushroom, a man eating peyote or a woman drinking ayahuasca, you aren't any different than a maggot, focusing it's senses on the DMT release of dead creatures, or the grass outside timelessly communicating with every plant and animal through telepathic emotional transmition. However, you're sitting here ignoring your fundamental synchronicity with the orchestra of DMT being played in nature by staring at this life-less computer screen. Demons, extra dimensional entities, aliens, or anything out of this world is simply beings who are on a frequency that feeds on death, which if you open yourself up to through the addiction of the fear chemical: adrenaline, or cortisol, you will be controlled and influenced by. You see, we are just like animals, but instead of being controlled by the gods of their bodies, we are controlled by our spirits. Whether you like to believe it or not, everything you know that is significantly true, has been discovered and realized by a scientist who, unlike you believed in one of the two gods, the one true god, or the one lie. The spiritual realm is the central focus of this reality, and everything material is a manifestation of the immaculate, geometrically perfect clockwork of energetic, condensed UV light trapped in a wave of probability within vibrating water. Spiritual order, or material chaos are two perspectives, one which rings true and one which deceives. Everything revolves around spiritual order, and your degree of belief or understanding in it.
The difference between those who choose to apathetically ignore the signs god has placed in their path, and those who use them as clues to discover what they have been blind to is simple.
Nothing is chaos, everything is perfectly scripted and decided prior to occurrence. There is no choice in results, only perspectives about the causes. Brilliant scientists and philosophers shared one significant quality of a core belief that they already knew everything, but simply had to listen to what god would offer, (when the student is ready the teacher will come). Seeing the similarities versus the differences is two distinctly differing views on a very important topic. Saying demons aren't real, is a fear based reaction rooting from the inability to even consider understanding what they are. Similarly, it is a fear based reaction founded upon your desire to not remember who you really are. So before you apathetically disregard this, would you rather walk with god, or with unknown influences who treat you like a battery, a worthless slave. Drug's don't have "purposes", the only real set purpose they have are to keep you stuck in this illusion by your own will until you let go of the need to control your own life with all the bull**** fear backing every ignorant decision. Eventually, and inevitably these events will only serve to teach you to not repeat these set mistakes. Btw, demons don't just try to scare you randomly, they are a militant force that sucks the negative energy from people's emotions and uses it to catalyze more negativity, and in turn harvest more emotion. They do this because they are with a fallen army, in this fallen world of sin, the abyss, with a prime goal to trap all of us into the hell they are already condemned to. They're trying to bring people like you down to their torment, so they don't have to experience as much of gods wrath. However, we are all much higher of a frequency than them, and can easily escape their influence through our only chance to escape our own sin, through the messiah: jesus christ.
I'm not propagating religious beliefs or forcing them on you, this is just what I've come to realize. Ultimately, it's your choice, but knowing both sides, would you rather choose to disbelieve in your potentially only chance to leave this world of sin, or pretend he doesn't exist and everything will be ok even though there are evil entities wanting you to think in that very manner? You have only the choice of who will influence you, not how. In material terms, would you rather experience the fear of adrenaline and cortizol, or the happiness and understanding of serotonin and dmt. Will you react negatively, positively or neutrally? We are all, always tripping.



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