Quote Originally Posted by DreamyBear View Post
Hmm, if this is it. Then there cant be anything else after our physical death. Because some one who is dead cant know/experiencing anything any more. The only heaven there is then, is where we are now, and nothing more. Do you agree with this thought? And if not, then why?

Thanks!
I think when it talks of 'heaven' it is talking about different dimensions rather than afterlife. I believe that God exists in a particular dimension that as fallen man, we can't directly access since we had sinned it seperated like a veil had gone over, and that Jesus Christ the son of God, went down into earth as a man, to re-unite us from our fallen state to redeem us. So I believe that when we die, we will experience a resurrection. Depending on the life lived, we may be resurrected to eternal life, or we will be resurrected to be condemed.

I think this is a critical thing that most christian churches and expecially catholics, will never talk about cause it really seperates real christians from false ones.

John 11:25
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

Revelation 20:6
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

This means that there is actually two resurrections, the first is the resurrection of those that believe in Christ. The later second resurrection is for those that didn't believe, but those that didn't believe, they can't overcome death. See that is a very important distinction to make. And it's critical.

Revelation 20:12
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

So this verse here makes it clear that everyone that dies, they are going to be resurrected (even in first or second resurrection) and judged according to their life.

Revelation 20:15
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

This means I believe, that those who are in the second resurrection, who get tested by satan when he is again loose on earth, and if they fail that, they may not be in the book of life, and so when everyone is judged, those that choose lies, are cast into the lake of fire, and not having eternal life, is the place where their soul will actually be destroyed.

That's how I understand the doctrine. The 'evil spirits' who go about posessing people and haunting people, I see those as either the fallen angels or Nephilim, which already have immortality, but that they have the lake of fire as their home. So while humans will resurrected, some of those not in the book of life will be destroyed in lake of fire, and those such as satan, fallen angels, since they already have immortality, they actually have to stay in the lake of fire forever! Unless Jesus somehow reverses their immortality, but since it was granted to them from the beginning, they may have to stay there forever. That's why I believe that adam and eve were not permitted to eat of the tree of life, because if in a sinful state they ate of the tree of life and obtained immortality then if they were not redemmed they would have the same fate as the fallen angels. So the tree of life was protected from them going near it until they overcome sin through Christ.

Revelation 2:7
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.