Bible thumper with anti-gay logic. Help me out here, guys.
This Bible thumper is trying to convince me that homosexuality is a mental condition. This has been going on for a couple of days now. I've been beating down his logic, but he is not ALLOWED to accept that he is wrong, because of some Book that he read, so at this point he's refusing logic even when it's obvious, and I need a fresh point of view, lest I end up just repeating myself. Please help. What are your opinions?
So far the only point that I have made is that his arguments are faulty, and I want to keep it that way, as I don't KNOW that he isn't right, and don't care. I only know that his arguments are flawed. I have not stated anything further than that, only that his arguments are faulty. When he stated that going into the "closet" was a sign of a mental disorder, I stated that there were other possible explanations, and listed prejudice as one of them. In this last post of his, that is what he is attacking. Keep in mind that I am limiting my arguments to merely discrediting his claims. Nothing more.
The full conversation (several pages long) is available upon request.
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Oh BTW, claiming prejudice, and blaming society for their manifest psychological problems is not a Reasonable alternative, it is a cope out.
That argument can be used for any social abhorrent behavior like pedophilia, necrophilia, bestiality. "I hid what I was doing your honor, because society doesn't under stand my form of love, it is bigoted and prejudiced against me." That is not an acceptable argument thus your logic and reasoning is a FAILURE you have not refuted my points or evidence you just blame society. The individual then never has to take any responsibility for their own behavior look here [Link to some rape case, in which the attacker is blaming the girl for wearing provocative clothing] This guy is blaming the girl, it is her fault.
I and every sane person in society rejects the "it is because of society" argument. Since if you look at the cites that have the greatest acceptance of homoism they also have the highest rates of homo suicide, and drug use and alcoholism. The blame society argument has been used by the homo apologists for the reported higher rates of these phenomenon in the homo community at large. Thus if it was because of a prejudiced society these rates would be lower in these areas where the homo is openly accepted and allowed to flaunt their perversion where ever. But we don't it is higher in those areas which proves that their reasoning is not sound or based on any reality. Just a cope out from people who are depressed and don't want to deal with their issues.
Now if this theory of mine is true, and homoism is a mental disorder then there would not only be the personal manifestation in the homos, psyche, which I have shown, but it would then infect the rest of the culture. This is the nature of a sound theory it has predictive value. If homos, as the APA said, were the product of stunted personal and emotional development, with them in positions of authority, their need to limit personal angst would come to light. Thus we has "Sensitivity Training" this is the social manifestation of the depressive mind of the homo put forth on society. It is were the homos do PTSD mitigation on the healthy population. They will tell you what you can and can't say so that you don't touch one of the psychological or emotionally unresolved issues that the homos have. Since they never dealt with their issues they just placed the burden to change on society. This then would be the logical continuation of the mental illness of homoism on society. It fits perfectly, and is a validation of the predictive value of the theory. And the justification for doing such things is what? Let me say it for you "Well because of a prejudice society such a program would be needed" The only argument you have is to blame society, which isn't acceptable, it wouldn't hold up in a court.
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