Thread: Was Sandy Hook a Hoax?

This... is... insane!!!

A hoax as in it didn't happen? No, it happened. Was there more to it than most people realize? I'd say so, definitely. I haven't looked into it enough to be able to say it was a black operation, but will say that only a fool would rule out the possibility.

Why would the US government organise something so unequivocally atrocious when there is a high chance of it leaking?

Pros: helps master plan to fail to pass new gun laws (?)
Cons: high probability of entire administration being thrown out of government and into jail

Nnnah.

Originally Posted by Xei

Pros: helps master plan to fail to pass new gun laws (?)

The thing most of the Republicans and Alex Jones followers forget is that no one is even trying to take their guns, it's just background checks. I don't think they'd need to fake a school shooting for that.

Originally Posted by Xei

Why would the US government organise something so unequivocally atrocious when there is a high chance of it leaking?

Pros: helps master plan to fail to pass new gun laws (?)
Cons: high probability of entire administration being thrown out of government and into jail

Nnnah.

I don't know what happened, but there are unanswered questions. I am pretty sure that if it was a hoax, it was to set the stage for gradually making guns illegal. My concern is that the government has gotten so powerful that nobody would go to jail for the hoax. I think the NSA surveillance is treasonous, but we have a government that sees the public as weak and stupid. The government obviously thinks they can get away with all kinds of stuff that is way out of bounds. I don't put anything past them any more.

Originally Posted by Woodstock

The thing most of the Republicans and Alex Jones followers forget is that no one is even trying to take their guns, it's just background checks. I don't think they'd need to fake a school shooting for that.

Remember that the government works in small steps. The government went from certain violations of the Bill of Rights for "fighting drugs" to the Patriot Act, which was a stepping stone to the NDAA, which could very well be a stepping stone to an even greater horror. The government sent some troops to Vietnam for a policing mission, and that turned into 200,000 troops fighting a full blown war. The Iraq War was supposed to be a temporary mission to overthrow the Hussein regime and declare mission accomplished and then have the people happily let us set up a new government, but it turned into a decade long clusterfuck. We set up a military base in Saudi Arabia to have a home base during the Gulf War, but the base is still open to this day. The Department of Education was never meant to rule the nation's public schools on the level that it does. Hitler suspended part of the German Constitution "temporarily" because it was supposedly necessary to handle some of Germany's problems. Then he took over the country, and then he took over most of Europe. Governments cannot be trusted to stop where they say they are going to stop. They always want more power than they have and more power than they say they want. Our government is talking about background checks and banning "assault weapons" (which are not just machine guns) now, but I don't trust them for two seconds to stop there.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Remember that the government works in small steps. The government went from certain violations of the Bill of Rights for "fighting drugs" to the Patriot Act, which was a stepping stone to the NDAA, which could very well be a stepping stone to an even greater horror. The government sent some troops to Vietnam for a policing mission, and that turned into 200,000 troops fighting a full blown war. The Iraq War was supposed to be a temporary mission to overthrow the Hussein regime and declare mission accomplished and then have the people happily let us set up a new government, but it turned into a decade long clusterfuck. We set up a military base in Saudi Arabia to have a home base during the Gulf War, but the base is still open to this day. The Department of Education was never meant to rule the nation's public schools on the level that it does. Hitler suspended part of the German Constitution "temporarily" because it was supposedly necessary to handle some of Germany's problems. Then he took over the country, and then he took over most of Europe. Governments cannot be trusted to stop where they say they are going to stop. They always want more power than they have and more power than they say they want. Our government is talking about background checks and banning "assault weapons" (which are not just machine guns) now, but I don't trust them for two seconds to stop there.

Obama has less than 4 years and then we'll have a new president, do you really think he can make all guns illegal in that time when he's been trying to get background checks for a year and it hasn't happened yet?

Originally Posted by Woodstock

Obama has less than 4 years and then we'll have a new president, do you really think he can make all guns illegal in that time when he's been trying to get background checks for a year and it hasn't happened yet?

I think he's working for a bigger element that has an agenda to ban all guns. I am not saying it's the Illuminati or the New World Order, but it is a collectivity of control freaks.

Can I answer the topic in one word?

"No."

It takes more than one word to refute all the allegations made in the video. How do you explain for instance that the gun that was supposedly used to shoot everybody was locked in the trunk of the car on the parking lot (and there's video of it being discovered there by police)? And all the parents laughing and smiling 2 days after their children were killed? And the Facebook memorial pages that were put up several days before the shooting occurred? As well as the ridiculous coincidence that the very day of the shooting, at the exact same time school was in session, there was a training operation going on 20 minutes away for how to handle an emergency situation involving children? The 2 other shooters who were caught, at least one of them wearing camo just like the people seen in the training operation, who were originally reported but later mysteriously disappeared from the narrative?

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

It takes more than one word to refute all the allegations made in the video.

Of course, but if we decided to write essays on each bullshit topic, we wouldn't have much time for other, more productive things.

How do you explain for instance that the gun that was supposedly used to shoot everybody was locked in the trunk of the car on the parking lot (and there's video of it being discovered there by police)?

The gun in the trunk wasn't the gun used in the shooting.

And all the parents laughing and smiling 2 days after their children were killed?

Nervous laughter, reminiscing, etc. Even after suffering a huge loss, humans can still display happy emotions.

And the Facebook memorial pages that were put up several days before the shooting occurred?

The pages existed before the shooting, but the names were changed after.

As well as the ridiculous coincidence that the very day of the shooting, at the exact same time school was in session, there was a training operation going on 20 minutes away for how to handle an emergency situation involving children?

Not so ridiculous when similar events were occurring multiple times throughout CT in November and December.

The 2 other shooters who were caught, at least one of them wearing camo just like the people seen in the training operation, who were originally reported but later mysteriously disappeared from the narrative?

An off-duty tactical squad police officer from another town.

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

Of course, but if we decided to write essays on each bullshit topic, we wouldn't have much time for other, more productive things.

Essays are not necessary, but explanations are productive

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

The gun in the trunk wasn't the gun used in the shooting.

The medical examiner said the gun used was a rifle. A rifle was discovered in the alleged shooter's trunk after the shooting although the shooter never went back to his car after the shooting, but the guns found in the school were all hand guns.

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

Nervous laughter, reminiscing, etc. Even after suffering a huge loss, humans can still display happy emotions.

So he looked cheerful for a few seconds before going on television because he was thinking, "Ha ha, I'm about to talk about how my little girl was just murdered." (?)

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

The pages existed before the shooting, but the names were changed after.

Where did you get that? Why were the pages created two days before the shooting? Why did a supposed parent post a Facebook status about his dead little girl during the shooting and then come back and say that he didn't know how she was doing because the school was under lock down? Also, a lady who was interviewed talked about the shooter's mother being a kindergarten teacher at the school, but it turned out that she didn't even work at the school. This is odd stuff.

I have seen multiple videos on this, so I don't know how much of what I am bringing up is in the video I posted.

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

Not so ridiculous when similar events were occurring multiple times throughout CT in November and December.

Right by the shooting location? Strangely, the same thing happened with 9/11 and the Boston Marathon bombing.

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

An off-duty tactical squad police officer from another town.

Hmmm...

There is also the situation of the witness who told one reporter that a female school bus driver stopped in front of his house and acted frantic and then dropped six kids off at his house although the bus driver didn't know him. The same guy told Megan Kelly on Fox News that a man outside his house yelled at him about taking care of the six kids. The witness lived where the kids would have walked right past a rescue crew on the way. The film maker claims that the witness is a member of the Screen Actors' Guild.

And for the biggest question I have about all of this... What on Earth was Barack Obama doing in a picture with a supposed fatal victim of the shooting and her family? Did Obama get a photo op with this family not long before the shooting?

I am not sold on the conspiracy theory. There could be multiple documentary makers using Photoshop, interviewing phony people themselves, filming fake news clips, and lying their asses off. It's possible. But there are a lot of issues that have not been explained away.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

The medical examiner said the gun used was a rifle. A rifle was discovered in the alleged shooter's trunk after the shooting although the shooter never went back to his car after the shooting, but the guns found in the school were all hand guns.

The gun found in the trunk was a shotgun. There were two handguns in the school, along with a Bushmaster rifle.

So he looked cheerful for a few seconds before going on television because he was thinking, "Ha ha, I'm about to talk about how my little girl was just murdered." (?)

Unlikely. Do you deny that humans can display happy emotions (even at times one would consider odd or inappropriate) after a tremendous loss?

Where did you get that? Why were the pages created two days before the shooting?

The pages had nothing to do with Sandy Hook, but the names were changed (because you can do that on FB) after the shooting. Page creation dates can be imprecise and confusing (Example: a newspaper's FB page can say Founded 1920 while their FB page was only created in 2009), as can dates in general in Google searches.

The same thing happened with the Boston bombing. Pre-existing pages changed their names to memorialize the event. It happens all the time.

Why did a supposed parent post a Facebook status about his dead little girl during the shooting and then come back and say that he didn't know how she was doing because the school was under lock down?

I haven't heard anything about this. More info?

Also, a lady who was interviewed talked about the shooter's mother being a kindergarten teacher at the school, but it turned out that she didn't even work at the school. This is odd stuff.

I won't insult you by asking if you've ever watched news churn out as events unfold, but misreporting occurs all the time. Again, take Boston. CNN's John King reported that a suspect had been identified and arrested well before decent pictures of the guys had even been released to the public (because the FBI needed help).

Right by the shooting location? Strangely, the same thing happened with 9/11 and the Boston Marathon bombing.

By "right by" do you mean a half hour away in Bridgeport, CT?

Government involvement will always be associated with violent tragedies because it fits the worldview of the people conjuring up these conspiracy theories. With Boston, they ask why bomb-sniffing dogs were present, despite the fact that we're living post-9/11, so of-fucking-course there will be some sort of anti-terrorism/police units on-scene during large, well-advertised public events. With 9/11, I can't even begin to comprehend the amount of crap they pull from thin air.

Hmmm...

There is also the situation of the witness who told one reporter that a female school bus driver stopped in front of his house and acted frantic and then dropped six kids off at his house although the bus driver didn't know him. The same guy told Megan Kelly on Fox News that a man outside his house yelled at him about taking care of the six kids. The witness lived where the kids would have walked right past a rescue crew on the way. The film maker claims that the witness is a member of the Screen Actors' Guild.

Gene Rosen (your witness) noticed six children (and a bus driver) on his lawn. They had made it out of the school. How they ended up there, I don't know, but there was no "dropping off" of children. The film maker is wrong about the SAG connection. There is a Gene Rosen involved with the SAG, but it is not the same Gene Rosen involved with sheltering the children.

And for the biggest question I have about all of this... What on Earth was Barack Obama doing in a picture with a supposed fatal victim of the shooting and her family? Did Obama get a photo op with this family not long before the shooting?

The child is erroneously reported to be Emilie Parker (who died in the shooting). In the pictures with Obama, it's actually her sister.

I am not sold on the conspiracy theory. There could be multiple documentary makers using Photoshop, interviewing phony people themselves, filming fake news clips, and lying their asses off. It's possible. But there are a lot of issues that have not been explained away.

Have you taken time to look up responses to the video? Doesn't seem like it.

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

The gun found in the trunk was a shotgun. There were two handguns in the school, along with a Bushmaster rifle.

Okay, shotgun. Not a hand gun. What did the medical examiner say the shooter used to shoot up the place?

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

Unlikely. Do you deny that humans can display happy emotions (even at times one would consider odd or inappropriate) after a tremendous loss?

They can, but I have never seen a parent act the particular way the supposed father of Emilie did, the day after the death. He acted like he was running for office and about to give a political speech.

Do you know a bad acting job when you see one? Check out this WTF...

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

The pages had nothing to do with Sandy Hook, but the names were changed (because you can do that on FB) after the shooting. Page creation dates can be imprecise and confusing (Example: a newspaper's FB page can say Founded 1920 while their FB page was only created in 2009), as can dates in general in Google searches.

I have never seen that. Why were the pages with crazy dates on them created? Why did their purpose suddenly change within two days?

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

The same thing happened with the Boston bombing. Pre-existing pages changed their names to memorialize the event. It happens all the time.

So other people's memorials were taken away for a new tragedy? Were those pages created two days earlier too? Two days???

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

I haven't heard anything about this. More info?

Go to 9:34 of the video I posted in my original post.

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

I won't insult you by asking if you've ever watched news churn out as events unfold, but misreporting occurs all the time. Again, take Boston. CNN's John King reported that a suspect had been identified and arrested well before decent pictures of the guys had even been released to the public (because the FBI needed help).

Did you watch the video I posted? The reporter said she herself talked to the school nurse, who told her that the gunman's mother was "a very caring, experienced kindergarten teacher." How could that get messed up?

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

By "right by" do you mean a half hour away in Bridgeport, CT?

Government involvement will always be associated with violent tragedies because it fits the worldview of the people conjuring up these conspiracy theories. With Boston, they ask why bomb-sniffing dogs were present, despite the fact that we're living post-9/11, so of-fucking-course there will be some sort of anti-terrorism/police units on-scene during large, well-advertised public events. With 9/11, I can't even begin to comprehend the amount of crap they pull from thin air.

Yes, that is pretty damn close to the obscure town. Are those drills going on in your metro area right now?

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

The child is erroneously reported to be Emilie Parker (who died in the shooting). In the pictures with Obama, it's actually her sister.

Yes, Emilie Parker. My sources have said that the girl in the pictures is Emilie. Like I said, people lie, but many sources say the girl in the picture with Obama is Emilie Parker. There was an older sister and two younger ones who look like twins. Which one do you claim was Emilie?

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

Have you taken time to look up responses to the video? Doesn't seem like it.

The ones I have found make me facepalm and cringe at the same time. Have you found a good one?

Why is everything a "hoax" or "conspiracy"? Why is it so hard to believe that there are bad people who do bad things without being told to by the government?

Why do most people automatically assume governments never conspire to corruption, in spite of all the historical evidence to the contrary?

If someone can point out someplace where the various questions have been answered effectively then there would be no need for a conversation like this. So far I see a lot more questions than answers, and I also see suspicious patterns in a lot of recent tragedies and atrocities where the government seems to basically just say "Stop looking into it - there's nothing to see there" and yet fails to prove it. It's becoming increasingly clear this administration is involved in a lot of deeply corrupt goings-on. We don't yet know the extent of them, so I think it's a very good idea to keep asking such questions.

And what's really surprising is the number of people who just seem to be saying "oh come on - you know governments don't do bad things!"

What's wrong with inquiring into the facts, especially if they don't seem to add up? Should the government always be exempt form suspicion in every case, with no investigation?

I'd like to point out the difference between "conspiracy" and "conspiracy theory." Conspiracies happen in the real world, and often we find out about them. No one can deny that.

Conspiracy theories, on the other hand, never come to fruition and are never rigorously verified. What few factoids are involved, they are diluted by sloppy logic, confirmation bias, poor research, and paranoia. Conspiracy theories are homeopathic.

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

Why do most people automatically assume governments never conspire to corruption, in spite of all the historical evidence to the contrary?

If someone can point out someplace where the various questions have been answered effectively then there would be no need for a conversation like this. So far I see a lot more questions than answers, and I also see suspicious patterns in a lot of recent tragedies and atrocities where the government seems to basically just say "Stop looking into it - there's nothing to see there" and yet fails to prove it. It's becoming increasingly clear this administration is involved in a lot of deeply corrupt goings-on. We don't yet know the extent of them, so I think it's a very good idea to keep asking such questions.

And what's really surprising is the number of people who just seem to be saying "oh come on - you know governments don't do bad things!"

What's wrong with inquiring into the facts, especially if they don't seem to add up? Should the government always be exempt form suspicion in every case, with no investigation?

No, I'm not saying that the government is completely innocent and never does anything wrong. But you can't blame every bad thing that happens on the government. I've heard all the 9/11 conspiracy theories and now people are saying the shooting and Boston bombing were also done by the government.

Originally Posted by Woodstock

No, I'm not saying that the government is completely innocent and never does anything wrong. But you can't blame every bad thing that happens on the government. I've heard all the 9/11 conspiracy theories and now people are saying the shooting and Boston bombing were also done by the government.

I know you didn't address that to me, but I want to chime in. I don't claim to know that the government did any of that stuff, but there is craziness that has not been explained. You can look at old threads here and see how much I argued against the 9/11 inside job claims. I don't think college students on the internet understand skyscraper engineering better than the engineering world, who scoff at the engineering claims. I don't think the airplanes were remote control, and I don't think the government would have bothered with airplanes if they used bombs to blow up the buildings. But might the government have used Bin Laden to get terrorists to hijack airplanes and crash them into major U.S. buildings? My view at this point is that it's possible but not proven. I say the same about the existence of the Illuminati. However, I know with complete certainty that all of these tragedies have been used by the government to argue for major government expansion and the trampling of civil liberties. That we do know.

So, if people theorize that there's a conspiracy, even if it later turns out they were right, that theory is automatically bullshit?

How about people who don't spew conspiracy theories but just want to see crimes properly investigated? Do they automatically get lumped in with conspiracy theorists?

Same here - I didn't blame anything on anybody, nor do I 'always blame government for everything'. UM and I have done nothing but ask questions.

As I said above, it's becoming clear there is a deep corruption in our government. When someone has proven themselves to be untrustworthy, doesn't it seem like a good idea to investigate anything oddly suspicious that they're involved with?

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

However, I know with complete certainty that all of these tragedies have been used by the government to argue for major government expansion and the trampling of civil liberties. That we do know.

I agree with this.

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

Same here - I didn't blame anything on anybody, nor do I 'always blame government for everything'. UM and I have done nothing but ask questions.

Sorry, I thought you and Universal Mind were arguing that the government did it, not just asking questions.

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

As I said above, it's becoming clear there is a deep corruption in our government. When someone has proven themselves to be untrustworthy, doesn't it seem like a good idea to investigate anything oddly suspicious that they're involved with?

Yes, the government is corrupt. I did some research because like you said, the government is untrustworthy and suspicious, but I just don't see any real evidence for this, just bad reporting and some fakes.

Ok cool. Yeah, I can see where any thread that begins with a video like this one would almost automatically bee seen by most people as pure Alex Jones style conspiracy theory idiocy. I'm not just buying wholeheartedly into any of it, but I also refuse to go the opposite extreme and assume that there's never a grain of truth at the heart of some conspiracy theories.

I really haven't researched into this much - ok at all, so I was hoping somebody would give links to some explanations or a place to start. I hate the way it seems like these stories start off so strong, you know, 24-7 coverage for a week or two and then suddenly they disappear before there are enough answers or before anything has really been resolved. It's a shame anyone who wants to learn more after the news stories dry up needs to launch their own independent investigation.

Jackpot:



Lots of actual news clips, interviews, and speeches in that, and they are quite eerie.


I want to reiterate this, particularly the pictures of Emilie Parker:

Sandy Hook: The Curious Case Of Emilie Parker | Opinion - Conservative

People get annoyed because it is always the same things people bring up. After you refute the same argument 20 times, you can get very annoyed.

For example, the one that pisses me off is the clip of nbc that says there was 4 hand guns, and people use that to say it was a conspiracy. It was just horrible reporting on NBC's part because no one ever said there was 4 hand guns, they basically just pulled that report out of their ass and went with it. All the official reports by the police and everything has always said there was two hand guns found on the body, that were not used to kill anyone else(he might of killed him self with the pistol I forget), he used the assault rifle for all the kills and it was found on his body, and there was a shotgun that was never used found in the trunk of the car. That was the official police report and all evidence supports that, anyone who says differently is lying or is wrong, including any media sources.

Some times media sources are crap, that doesn't make it a conspiracy though. It just means their company is more into entertainment than news reporting.

As for the 'bad acting', it appears to be bad acting because they are not actors, they are real people who are not used to being in front of cameras. They are also experiencing a great deal of stress and grief which can cause people to act exactly like you see. It is all normal. People who that that humans all react in the same way to all events don't really have much experience in human behavior, if you knew anything about the subject you would know people's mood changes often, and people can react in many ways in any given situation.

The emilie parker thing is also pretty silly. Her sister wears her old dress and suddenly everyone thinks it is her. What is more likely, they fake the entire thing and then picked the wrong child for the photo op, or that her sister was just wearing a hand me down? Keep in mind that the photos people use are like two years a part, so in the obama photo everyone is two years older than they are in the other.

As for the websites. The person creates a website for whatever reason they don't like it, so they reuse it for something else and the creation date remains the original. Nothing odd or strange about that at all. They could make a new page, maybe many did but a few didn't. Only thing that is strange is that you think 100% of all people will do the same thing and no person would ever reuse a website.

Alric, calm down. Take a few deep breaths. I have said repeatedly that I am not convinced that there is a conspiracy. I am just asking questions about stuff that seems extremely bizarre. Don't respond to my posts if you are not going to read them in their entirety.

Originally Posted by Alric

For example, the one that pisses me off is the clip of nbc that says there was 4 hand guns, and people use that to say it was a conspiracy. It was just horrible reporting on NBC's part because no one ever said there was 4 hand guns, they basically just pulled that report out of their ass and went with it. All the official reports by the police and everything has always said there was two hand guns found on the body, that were not used to kill anyone else(he might of killed him self with the pistol I forget), he used the assault rifle for all the kills and it was found on his body, and there was a shotgun that was never used found in the trunk of the car. That was the official police report and all evidence supports that, anyone who says differently is lying or is wrong, including any media sources.

Oh, I am so sorry I think it is extremely bizarre that major news companies are giving false news reports about one of the biggest news stories in the world. My bad. At least they got the official police report worked out before reporting it.

Originally Posted by Alric

As for the 'bad acting', it appears to be bad acting because they are not actors, they are real people who are not used to being in front of cameras. They are also experiencing a great deal of stress and grief which can cause people to act exactly like you see. It is all normal. People who that that humans all react in the same way to all events don't really have much experience in human behavior, if you knew anything about the subject you would know people's mood changes often, and people can react in many ways in any given situation.

It appears to be bad, and it appears to be acting. That is why it appears to be bad acting. Bad + acting = bad acting. I have many times more experience working in the area of human behavior than you, and I have seen a great deal of tears. Can you show me ONE single tear in any of the videos I have posted? Just one? From majoring in psychology, working at a mental health center, and teaching at several schools and subbing at a zillion, I know human behavior. I am also 41 years old. I know how people act in these situations. The people in the video are off the charts. Excuse me for pointing that out.

Originally Posted by Alric

The emilie parker thing is also pretty silly. Her sister wears her old dress and suddenly everyone thinks it is her. What is more likely, they fake the entire thing and then picked the wrong child for the photo op, or that her sister was just wearing a hand me down? Keep in mind that the photos people use are like two years a part, so in the obama photo everyone is two years older than they are in the other.

Oh, really? The other pictures were two years old? Do you have evidence of that? Please explain why one of the sisters didn't look like she had aged at all. Also explain why Emilie's supposed sister looked exactly like Emilie, even with her hair parted the same way. They had no recent pictures of Emilie? She looks identical to her sister's later self in all of them? I guess I don't know anything about human behavior if I think it is looney land nut toons that Emilie's replica and others in the family were looking so happy with the president in a picture right after Emilie was killed.

Originally Posted by Alric

As for the websites. The person creates a website for whatever reason they don't like it, so they reuse it for something else and the creation date remains the original. Nothing odd or strange about that at all. They could make a new page, maybe many did but a few didn't. Only thing that is strange is that you think 100% of all people will do the same thing and no person would ever reuse a website.

No, I think it's bizarre that they reuse it because they had JUST created it. That meant they had things to change, including the name of the page, which has to be approved by Facebook and usually takes more than a day. It's much easier to just start a new page.

The last video I posted is covered with all kinds of outrageous issues. For example, a woman out there is trying to get answers concerning why her daughter had her picture on a website dedicated to the children who were supposedly killed in Newtown. The picture came with a false name. It's a long video, so there is lots of other stuff. I challenge you to look at the last thing covered in the video. It shows people walking into and out of the fire station in something resembling a circle, like they are in an M.C. Escher painting. Gene Rosen, the actor who had six kids show up in two different crazy ways at his house, is one of the people. Look at the last video I posted, starting at 1:50:09, and tell me what on Earth the people are doing. Will you do that? It is very mysterious. Since this is a new page, here is the video again.