Thread: revolution

Originally posted by bradybaker
^ The psychology that must be behind statements like those intrique me beyond belief.

Me too. Soooo... you guys can like... see the future and stuff??

And by the way wizard, reconcile knowing the future with the concept of freewill. I dare ya.

-spoon

Originally posted by spoon
Me too. Soooo... you guys can like... see the future and stuff??

And by the way wizard, reconcile knowing the future with the concept of freewill. I dare ya.

-spoon

Yes -- and I have a feeling I can see it better than him...

Originally posted by Rakkantekimusouka
Yes -- and I have a feeling I can see it better than him...

Then you should click this and collect

But meanwhile, how do you see the future? And are you ever wrong? You could just be a good guesser.

And more importantly, why are you here and not out rigging bets?

-spoon

Originally posted by spoon+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(spoon)</div>

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Yes -- and I have a feeling I can see it better than him...

Then you should click this and collect

But meanwhile, how do you see the future? And are you ever wrong? You could just be a good guesser.

And more importantly, why are you here and not out rigging bets?

-spoon[/b]

Yes, I saw that...the money would be nice -- not for me, of course, but for a charity or as a donation to my University, or something.

Here is the key: I am not "psychic"; I cannot predict anything on a whim anymore than anyone else, or just go up to someone and know all about them (or with my luck, even pretend to).

I only see certain future events that are presented to me by my visions. And perhaps because I am not greedy (I am ideally socialist), I do not foresee events that could make me money.

The majority of my foresight has been Apocalyptic, and at most, far in the future. For example, I saw in December last year that Taiwan would become an independent nation state on or by July 6th, 2009. That's still at least four years from now.

My first foresight about the heir to the Japanese royal family occured in early 1999. I knew it would be a girl. In early 2001, Crown Princess Masako Owada had a baby girl. I guess you could say it was fifty-fifty, and I could have guessed with bias, and been right. However, before she had the baby girl, she had a miscarriage. They were saying that this was it, and this would be the heir to the throne...but I knew that that baby was (or would have been) male, and the heir would be female. Thus, the miscarriage came as no surprise.

sorry...but I can\'t describe my reaction any better than that

^ Agreed......this discussion just got a little too extended for me.....

dear rakkamodndtishiwahtever:did you make all that up all by yourself? well congratulations on poisening america and little 'ol spoon

i can see your point of view when talking about free will and fate and i would just like to clear this up whether anyone believes me or not. first of all there is freewill. and if you really do have these prophetic dreams as you say you do then you should very well be able to test this! also i would say that there is fate for a lot of people to an extent. you may ask why. well i will tell you. people are ignorant of the truth and would care less if their life depended (and it does) on it. and you know what people stop assuming because your not good at it. when i said i saw the future you took that very literally which is incredibly stupid so use what god gave you try and keep up. because if you want the truth ill damn well give it to you.

-Oath

i think i might as well go on a rampage.

1.truthbearer i have heard it told to me many times before that i think on a different "level" now truthbearer lets be honest with ourselves does that make sense to you? why dont you be honorable now and either live up to that name of yours or get rid of it. currently its not fitting

2 last time i heard un peacekeepers in congo were raping little girls doc so get your info straight before you barge into my territory.

3 rakka the last time i pm you you never responded so how do you expect me to now? and you have nothing to offer me. how do expect to understand all that i represent when you dont even understand yourself?

4 tell me who has figured out that i am not of the same "breed" as you? no one? well ill tell you what you people do not know me. you have no idea who or even what exactly i am. so i will tell you. i am what i choose and what god is willing to give me. -nephillium possibly- -judge soon- -man- and if i so choose to be king i will be king but as of the moment i feel its not worth it. i have heard it said that my world can only exist in utopia. utterly incorrect. i am not creating heaven. it only seems that way because its no where near what you have now. i cannot give happoness . i can give however and end to violence, suffering, poverty, etc... woe to you who frets over an end to these. you may say well violence is "cool" woe to you.

Hahaha. Yes wizard... you are 'special'

Originally posted by CT
Hahaha. Yes wizard... you are 'special'

...and by 'special', he means ignorant, naive, and cowardly, all of which your posts have made you out to be. Care to show us up for this impression and post something minutely credible?

I'm not normally so blunt, but you have tried even my normally lengthy, flexible patience.

I didn't even want to take the time to read wizard's posts there.

But I'm positive my response is "shut up".

[edit]Ok that was mean of me, so I went back and read wizard's posts. BOY AM I SORRY I DID!!!

Wizard, you are one messed-up freak. Quit talking crazy and try actually bringing ends to poverty ect in a NON-religious-fanatical way please. Thank you.[/edit]

Calm down guys. I believe this is over.

Originally posted by OpheliaBlue
I didn't even want to take the time to read wizard's posts there.

But I'm positive my response is \"shut up\".

LOL! Now that's comedy.

I actually enjoyed wizard's post. Sometimes the only way to confirm your own sanity is by seeing someone who's completely insane.

i dont understand? if you are an atheist why do you even bother with my sites which almost always include religion?

1 asshole jerk

2 seeking god

3 loser with nothing better to do


ophelia,ct,and bradybaker

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Originally posted by wizard
i dont understand? if you are an atheist why do you even bother with my sites which almost always include religion? *

1 asshole jerk

2 seeking god

3 loser with nothing better to do


ophelia,ct,and bradybaker

HEY why are you including Bradybaker there? He said he actually enjoyed your post.

Course it was only because you're lacking a few glials....but hey, who's counting?!

Originally posted by wizard
i dont understand? if you are an atheist why do you even bother with my sites which almost always include religion?

Sites? Elaborate please.

Originally posted by Alex D+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Alex D)</div>

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i dont understand? if you are an atheist why do you even bother with my sites which almost always include religion?

Sites? Elaborate please.[/b]

He probably means threads.

'Oh my'

Thats all I have to say..I'm not quite sure what to say anymore after reading everything at once lol. Errmm..yes, this is very..extended. So yeah, my post is useless but I must say I enjoyed reading this all cept for all the hostility between peoples hehe

Originally posted by Oath
1.truthbearer i have heard it told to me many times before that i think on a different \"level\" now truthbearer lets be honest with ourselves does that make sense to you? why dont you be honorable now and either live up to that name of yours or get rid of it. currently its not fitting

Well, you can probably ask anyone who knows me here on this forum whether I do live up to my name or not. What you may think of me, to be quite honest with you, will not make me loose any sleep. Now, regarding the issue at hand (drama is fun!) I don't quite understand what you are blabbing about. I never said it wasn't possible for people to think on a higher or different level. I just told wizard that the lack of comprehension or agreement of the rest of the members about his point of view did not have to do with the fact that he is an enlightened being here to wow us all, but rather that is was a very inexperienced formulation of a utopic society.

I am sure you are a true philosopher and you think completely on a different plane than all of us puny earthlings though, so if you feel we should trade names cause mine fits you best, PM me

DONT TWIST WORDS AROUND I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

well, I meant it to say exactly what I explained above, but since you are obviously thinking in a completely different plane than I and the rest of our weak pathetic species resides in, you can probably read more into it than I can. Kudos for being that brilliant and elevated, and thank you for showing me the error in my ways. I will try to be better from now on...

Hey Oath just riseing a couple of points...
your soiciety seems to have many flaws for example how will you gain control , get people to follow your rules.... the list goes on. I for one would not like to have you as a "leader" or "king" because you are very arrogant and ignorant as you have not listened to many of the more sensiable sugestions even though you said you did not mind negative feedback.
Remember that for a revelotion you need the majority of the people on your side for it to be classed as a reveloution. Now if this is going to be a world reveolution uv only got someting - billion people to convice ....... good-luck
I sugest if you truely want to make a difference to the world become an aid worker in Africa or join an already organised reveloution army although finding one that isnt corupt may be hard...

Sorry for the bad spelling and punctuation everyone!

it was a couple of pages back, and i can't find it, but weren't you saying something along the lines of 'one person with one ideal'? I might have got this head over heels, but i seem to remember another someone, some forty odd years ago who had 'one ideal'
His name was Adolf Hitler.
and because of him, thousands and thousands of people who held different 'ideals' and 'beliefs' from what he believe to be 'the true ideal' were senselessy and mercilessly put to death.

This world cannot exist under the ideas and thoughts of one person alone.

You end up with nothing better than a dictatorship, and then you get 'real' revolutionaries, who start their own war, which goes against your whole thing of 'no war'
Not only that, but it would make for a very narrow-minded world, and there is always going to be someone who thinks they can do it better.

Why are you trying to change things?
okay, so sometimes the world is a hard place to live in, and things don't seem fair, but that's part of the tapestry of being human, and one of the advantages of having reason, allowing us to think things out for ourselves, and have our own opinions on things.
Accept the world for what it is; a very beautiful, complex, mixed up place, with much diversity that we can learn from.