“I've always been fascinated by dreams – really, by the idea that when you think about what a dream is, what the mind is doing during a dream, the mind is creating a world and perceiving it almost simultaneously," - Christopher Nolan
We at the Tech Team are currently discussing how to spread Lucid Dreaming to other sites, and with this movie coming up, it may help spread the Dream Views name around by adding links to various fan sites and Wikipedia pages linked to Inception.
I don't really know much about the plot of the story, but I believe it is about stealing people's dreams. Leonardo DiCaprio is an "extractor", or dream hacker, whose job is "subconscious security." His job is to protect the dreams and ideas of entrepreneurs, creators, and inventors from the bad guys.
And yea, it will be based around lucid dreaming.
Well, I remember reading something about how the writer used his knowledge of lucid dreaming a lot to be able to do it... or something.
04-19-2010, 12:34 PM
Maeni
Interesting!
The clip where the city bends like a wave, very trippy 8D
And hell yes for spreading the word!
04-19-2010, 06:45 PM
quicksilver girl.
oh yeah! i forgot how bad i wanted to see this.
you can't go wrong with dicaprio.
04-19-2010, 07:00 PM
lordyM
Leoooooo...
04-19-2010, 08:46 PM
slash112
The weird thing is, if the guy is lucid, why the heck isn't he doing awesome stuff, and why is he using a shitty pistol, rather than some big ass fucking gun?
I dunno, there must be something about it stopping him from being able to do stuff. I suppose, he is in other people's dreams... maybe the dreamer creates the rules...
I dunno, I need to see this thing.
I certainly hope it isn't too far off what lucid dreaming should be like. Especially seeing as the writer apparently used his knowledge in lucid dreaming.
04-20-2010, 01:16 AM
Mancon
Yeah, I can't wait until this comes out!
04-20-2010, 03:29 AM
EnjoyJoey
Inception looks like a BAMF.
04-20-2010, 04:11 AM
Irken
When I saw the name of this movie I instantly thought it was gonna be a movie about pregnancies or something. And now I can't shake the thought. So a movie about pregnancies might be cool you never know.
04-20-2010, 04:22 AM
hellohihello
Now I need to find someone interested in seeing this or wait till it comes out on DVD :<
It has spread a lot, I remember seeing links to dreamviews on wowofftopic ( warcraft ) and discussions about LDing always got deleted for some reason
04-20-2010, 06:24 AM
louie54
This looks interesting :)
That would be fucking funny if it showed one of the characters going on dreamviews and maybe using our website to help solve what ever problem there is XD
Yeah anyway, the problem I think there could be is that movies that had lucid dreaming in it, didn't do too well. Vanilla Sky has poor ratings, Waking Life isn't a big production. It seems to only be movies that has lucid dreaming in disguise (The Matrix, Avatar).
But if it has Leo in it, it should at least attract quite a few newbies here.
04-20-2010, 05:14 PM
slash112
Yea, inception will be different from those things. When it has a famous and loved actor in it and hype is built enough, and they make a good job of it, they will do well with it. And will certainly bring a lot of people to have interest in LDing.
04-20-2010, 09:43 PM
slayer
Quote:
Originally Posted by slash112
Yea, inception will be different from those things. When it has a famous and loved actor in it and hype is built enough, and they make a good job of it, they will do well with it. And will certainly bring a lot of people to have interest in LDing.
That is if they do good with the lucid dreaming scenes and not half-ass it.
I mean, the trailer shows a city being folded together, but you never know.
04-20-2010, 10:27 PM
YYNYM
Heck, if a city being folded in half is the highlight of the movie, I'd still go see it.
04-21-2010, 12:43 AM
slash112
Oh, I just realised... They might make an Inception Game. That would be fucking awesome.
It would be a better lucid dreaming game than that shitty "Lucidity" or whatever you call it.
04-21-2010, 01:26 AM
slayer
Quote:
Originally Posted by slash112
Oh, I just realised... They might make an Inception Game. That would be fucking awesome.
It would be a better lucid dreaming game than that shitty "Lucidity" or whatever you call it.
Probably not what you would expect really. It'd probably just re-enact things that were in the movie during cutscenes.
04-21-2010, 06:11 AM
louie54
Hopefully the game would actually relate to the story. Not like watching the movie Spiderman then playing the game... like 3 of around 84 of the missions relate to the movie.
04-21-2010, 11:21 PM
slayer
Or they could go out of their way to make a game that's not related to the movie and just about Lucid Dreaming.
A giant Sand Box game like Garrys Mod but bigger and better.
04-21-2010, 11:23 PM
slash112
Quote:
Originally Posted by louie54
Hopefully the game would actually relate to the story. Not like watching the movie Spiderman then playing the game... like 3 of around 84 of the missions relate to the movie.
Yea, I suppose. But when it comes to something like Inception, you would want as much freedom as possible, and not restricted to only what happens in the film.
04-22-2010, 06:02 AM
louie54
Quote:
Originally Posted by slayer
Or they could go out of their way to make a game that's not related to the movie and just about Lucid Dreaming.
A giant Sand Box game like Garrys Mod but bigger and better.
Quote:
Originally Posted by slash112
Yea, I suppose. But when it comes to something like Inception, you would want as much freedom as possible, and not restricted to only what happens in the film.
You both bring a good point.
:shadewink:
04-22-2010, 08:51 AM
Dannon Oneironaut
As long as they don't put that tired cliché plot prop where if you die in your dream then you die in real life. That is what I didn't like about the Matrix. You can totally die in your dreams and not die in real life. I am excited to see.
04-22-2010, 02:42 PM
HeavySleeper
It sounds like this movie will have strong aspects of shared dreaming as well, since they're entering other peoples' dreams. I'm really looking forward to seeing it. When I was talking to some people about this before someone mentioned the possibility of this movie starting a lucid dreaming craze. Loads of people asking google if they can actually control their dreams. :lol:
If anybody came into my dream and tried to take control they would have the fight of their life! :putemuppunk:
04-24-2010, 03:47 PM
slash112
Oh yea, I never even thought about the shared dreaming aspect of Inception...
The BD folks will be happy :P
04-24-2010, 07:48 PM
Supernova
Looks like it will be awesome provided they've done their research regarding dreams and shared dreaming.
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Originally Posted by Heavy Sleeper
When I was talking to some people about this before someone mentioned the possibility of this movie starting a lucid dreaming craze. Loads of people asking google if they can actually control their dreams. :lol:
Imagine what'll happen when they hear about shared dreaming...
04-24-2010, 09:29 PM
HeavySleeper
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supernova
Imagine what'll happen when they hear about shared dreaming...
They'll think we're all totally nuts. :shock: There will be religious fanatics speaking out against it, calling it evil and unnatural. And you know that there'll be people out there who hear about it and start a cult, where the members try to enter other peoples' minds and control them.
If the outbreak of lucid dreaming had that kind of affect, then I would be very ashamed of our ignorant society. :(
04-24-2010, 10:02 PM
Supernova
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Originally Posted by Heavy Sleeper
They'll think we're all totally nuts. :shock: There will be religious fanatics speaking out against it, calling it evil and unnatural. And you know that there'll be people out there who hear about it and start a cult, where the members try to enter other peoples' minds and control them.
If the outbreak of lucid dreaming had that kind of affect, then I would be very ashamed of our ignorant society. :(
Pretty much.
04-24-2010, 11:41 PM
Portalboat
Chances are, that is what's going to happen, sadly.
04-24-2010, 11:47 PM
BigFan
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Originally Posted by Supernova
Looks like it will be awesome provided they've done their research regarding dreams and shared dreaming.
Imagine what'll happen when they hear about shared dreaming...
Really, two possibilites: One, a good portion will try to LD and SD and won't be very successful thus forgetting about forever or till a much later date. The second is what's written below:
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Originally Posted by Heavy Sleeper
They'll think we're all totally nuts. :shock: There will be religious fanatics speaking out against it, calling it evil and unnatural. And you know that there'll be people out there who hear about it and start a cult, where the members try to enter other peoples' minds and control them.
04-25-2010, 03:31 AM
Dannon Oneironaut
I don't think it will have too much of an effect. you try to get people interested in lucid dreaming! I don't remember anything happening because of the Nightmare on Elm street movies. If the Matrix can't do it, I doubt this movie will have any affect.
04-26-2010, 06:59 PM
slash112
Hmmm, I don't think Inception is comparable to the matrix in that way. (And I've never seen Nightmare on Elm Street, so I don't know about that)
But The Matrix is like, connected to LDing in quite a deep level, which not everyone would get. Whereas Inception is actually about LDing, and Articles have mentioned LDing directly. So I think it could bring a lot of people to gain interest in LDing.
04-26-2010, 09:15 PM
JamesLD
Quote:
Originally Posted by slash112
But The Matrix is like, connected to LDing in quite a deep level, which not everyone would get.
exactly, the matrix was more like a metaphor or an analogy for lucid dreaming, and only cool people like us understand it:shadewink:
04-27-2010, 08:43 AM
DeeryTheDeer
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Originally Posted by Heavy Sleeper
They'll think we're all totally nuts. :shock: There will be religious fanatics speaking out against it, calling it evil and unnatural. And you know that there'll be people out there who hear about it and start a cult, where the members try to enter other peoples' minds and control them.
If the outbreak of lucid dreaming had that kind of affect, then I would be very ashamed of our ignorant society. :(
Religious outrage is to be expected with anything that allows people to be introspective and use the power of their own minds. Then they'd start to..........dare I even say it......... think for themselves.
04-27-2010, 11:49 AM
HeavySleeper
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Originally Posted by DeeryTheDeer
Then they'd start to..........dare I even say it......... think for themselves.
No!!! It's not possible! :panic:
I also doubt the movie will have such a dramatic effect. I was just talking about if lucid dreaming were to become common knowledge and nearly everyone knew about it. That's when things would go crazy.
Woa, didn't expect that from Inception. I thought they would have been more careful about it.
05-21-2010, 02:04 AM
Jamal
Looks pretty awesome. Here's a quote from the director: "I tried to work that idea of manipulation and management of a conscious dream being a skill that these people have. Really the script is based on those common, very basic experiences and concepts, and where can those take you? And the only outlandish idea that the film presents, really, is the existence of a technology that allows you to enter and share the same dream as someone else"
05-21-2010, 03:03 AM
YYNYM
Can't wait to see this! I'm seeing it on opening day, how about you guys?
05-21-2010, 10:12 AM
JamesLD
definitely going to the midnight showing
05-21-2010, 06:26 PM
slayer
Be sure to put any spoilers in spoiler tags [ spoiler] [ /spoiler] ok?
05-22-2010, 12:28 AM
changed
This movie has been discussed before but it needed its own thread so it doesn't matter.
05-22-2010, 12:31 AM
changed
Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesLD
exactly, the matrix was more like a metaphor or an analogy for lucid dreaming, and only cool people like us understand it:shadewink:
The matrix is actually made based off of an old philosophy. I guess it just happends to be realated to LDing.
05-22-2010, 12:49 AM
MadMonkey
When I saw this trailer in the theater I was like "Psht, I can do that." to my friend. lol I can't wait for this movie it looks prety cool and maby it could raise awarness of lucid dreaming or maby people will just not even think about it.
05-22-2010, 03:32 AM
JamesLD
Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMonkey
maby it could raise awarness of lucid dreaming or maby people will just not even think about it.
im almost certain the average person isnt going to think about it, their auto pilot wont let them... lol
05-22-2010, 03:34 AM
JamesLD
Quote:
Originally Posted by bradysdreaming
The matrix is actually made based off of an old philosophy. I guess it just happends to be realated to LDing.
i know that it is based off of an old philosophy, and i was just pointing out that it relates to lucid dreaming
05-22-2010, 11:59 PM
AbstractAsylum
A) Supernova your signature is awesome.
B) This movie looks amazing. I love Christopher Nolan...The Prestige, The Dark Knight, and Memento are all exceptional movies. I expect no less from Inception.
05-23-2010, 12:13 AM
slash112
Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesLD
im almost certain the average person isnt going to think about it, their auto pilot wont let them... lol
Well, just from seeing the trailer where he says "You don't even realise anything is wrong until you wake up", people will start thinking about stuff more in their dreams, and they will realise it's a dream, then they will google how they were able to do it.
That's just one of the possible ways it could raise awareness.
05-23-2010, 05:28 AM
slayer
We should try sending an email to Christopher Nolan and seeing if he can't get a few good words out about Lucid Dreaming and maybe even DreamViews.
05-24-2010, 04:42 PM
Spenner
Damn, can't believe I didn't see this 'till now.
This looks great- I can't wait :D this'll be a great enlightener for so many people.
05-24-2010, 05:05 PM
slash112
Quote:
Originally Posted by slayer
We should try sending an email to Christopher Nolan and seeing if he can't get a few good words out about Lucid Dreaming and maybe even DreamViews.
Haha, not a bad idea, actually.
If that worked, it would really raise awareness of lucid dreaming in the public. (And of course, DV would be getting fuller :D)
05-24-2010, 07:24 PM
Clyde Machine
Maybe Cristopher would join as a DG? XD
This movie has really grabbed my interest. Can't wait to see someone showing the world what lucids are capable of - even if only the big screen. :)
05-24-2010, 09:54 PM
JamesLD
Quote:
Originally Posted by slash112
Haha, not a bad idea, actually.
If that worked, it would really raise awareness of lucid dreaming in the public. (And of course, DV would be getting fuller :D)
noobs as far as the eye could see lol
05-26-2010, 01:11 AM
YYNYM
A blessing and a curse.
05-26-2010, 04:07 PM
Kuhnada29
looks good
06-03-2010, 09:35 AM
collapse
This movie has awesome written all over it - the director, cast, concept, visuals ... everything. Can't wait!
I doubt this will have a significant impact on the public, but there will probably be some increase in LD interest, and this is one of the few movies where I'd be interested in the DVD extras whenever it comes out. Maybe they'll have a feature just about LDing.
06-05-2010, 02:18 AM
Burke
Quote:
Originally Posted by slash112
The weird thing is, if the guy is lucid, why the heck isn't he doing awesome stuff, and why is he using a shitty pistol, rather than some big ass fucking gun?
Also, I meant generally anything awesome, and for it to be used all the time.
06-05-2010, 03:02 AM
slayer
That'll probably be the movie's downside.
06-05-2010, 03:22 AM
slash112
Possibly.
But there might be an explanation for it. Like, something to do with the fact that it is more than one person's dream, therefore each person is going by each other's dream-laws. Which would mean that the way things work would be fucked up.
06-05-2010, 12:52 PM
HeavySleeper
Quote:
Originally Posted by slash112
But there might be an explanation for it. Like, something to do with the fact that it is more than one person's dream, therefore each person is going by each other's dream-laws. Which would mean that the way things work would be fucked up.
It'll probably be the same problem the Matrix had. Once Neo finally realised that he had infinite power in the Matrix he could have made his enemies vanish in a puff of smoke, but he didn't. He still fought them with all the crazy kung-fu moves when he really didn't have to. But if you did make it realistic and took out all of the kung-fu action, the film would be boring. It would just be some guy wandering around this virtual world with limitless power and no one to offer him a challenge.
I think this film will turn out the same. Sure, they can bend cities at will or make a giant tidal wave appear from nowhere, but when it comes to fighting their enemies they want to do it the hard way, just for the fun of it. :roll:
06-06-2010, 02:42 AM
DuB
Wait, isn't the premise that these guys go into other peoples' dreams? It would seem to make sense that they wouldn't have limitless control in someone else's dream.
Whatever the setup is, I am really, really, really looking forward to seeing this movie. This may be my first midnight premier to attend in many years.
06-06-2010, 02:55 AM
slash112
Well, the way I saw it was that it was sort of, like, the dream was everyone who was in the dream's dream.
Which is why I suggested it would be like each dreamer's laws are what everyone else is governed by, which would end up with total fuck up, like, if one dreamer wanted normal gravity, and another dreamer wanted reverse gravity, people would be floating in the middle.
06-06-2010, 12:52 PM
HeavySleeper
The part where they fold the city on top of itself makes it seem like they have unlimited power. But I'm just guessing. Maybe they do have to stick to the same laws, but does that mean they are all in a dream world? This film is too hard to figure out without enough information. We'll just have to hold our breath and wait for it to come out.
06-06-2010, 09:29 PM
Iamerik
Memento and The Prestige were brilliant, I'm very excited about Inception!
Dom Cobb (Leonardo DiCaprio) is a skilled thief, the absolute best in the dangerous art of extraction, stealing valuable secrets from deep within the subconscious during the dream state, when the mind is at its most vulnerable. Cobb's rare ability has made him a coveted player in this treacherous new world of corporate espionage, but it has also made him an international fugitive and cost him everything he has ever loved.
Now Cobb is being offered a chance at redemption. One last job could give him his life back but only if he can accomplish the impossible: inception. Instead of the perfect heist, Cobb and his team of specialists have to pull off the reverse: their task is not to steal an idea but to plant one. If they succeed, it could be the perfect crime. But no amount of careful planning or expertise can prepare the team for the dangerous enemy that seems to predict their every move. An enemy that only Cobb could have seen coming.
For the people who watched heroes...just think of Matt Parkman when it comes to the whole "planting" idea....idea.
06-18-2010, 09:55 PM
JamesLD
I honestly dont think this movie is going to turn many people on to lucid dreaming unless they actually say the words "Lucid Dream" in the movie and explain what it is. the only reason this trailer turns on the light in our heads is because we are all fans of lucid dreams and have been studying it for some time. put yourself in the shoes of somebody whos never heard of lucid dreaming, if they see this trailer im sure the last thing on there mind is going to be "Realizing that youre dreaming? controling your dreams? im going to look into this!"
06-18-2010, 10:21 PM
slash112
Well, people are certainly going to search for something to do with dreams. Possibly controlling dreams. And possibly shared dreaming.
both of which would lead them to here.
06-19-2010, 01:48 AM
JamesLD
i guess time will tell
06-25-2010, 01:32 PM
Silent_Lucidity
Probably the only movie I look forward to seeing.
06-27-2010, 07:15 AM
JamesLD
Shit just got real.
in a new trailer i saw today, lenardo decaprio is sitting at a table at a cafe with the main chick in the movie and says to her "heres your first lesson.... you never remember the beginning of a dream..... how did you get here?" she pauses for a sec and then says to herself "were dreaming?!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjgPV...eature=related
HOLY FUCK I CAN NOT WAIT FOR THIS MOVIE
06-27-2010, 07:31 AM
DuB
Holy shit, I actually use that as a reality check, and have recommended it to others on this site. If you can't remember how you got to where you are right now, you are dreaming. (Or you're drunk.)
:mind is blown while waiting for Inception:
06-27-2010, 05:34 PM
slash112
Ahhh, sweet. People will be much more likely to come to learn about Lucid Dreams, after seeing that.
Also, I think I had a dream the other day about Inception. In the dream, I think I was Leonardo DiCaprio, lol. I don't remember much about the dream, really, but I think I was basically acting out what I thought Inception would be like.
It would have been a kick-ass dream, though, I wish I could properly remember it. It kinda makes me want to see Inception more :P
06-27-2010, 09:23 PM
AirRick101
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Originally Posted by JamesLD
Shit just got real.
in a new trailer i saw today, lenardo decaprio is sitting at a table at a cafe with the main chick in the movie and says to her "heres your first lesson.... you never remember the beginning of a dream..... how did you get here?" she pauses for a sec and then says to herself "were dreaming?!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjgPV...eature=related
HOLY FUCK I CAN NOT WAIT FOR THIS MOVIE
isn't it funny....how real life is the same?
06-27-2010, 09:55 PM
ElsiaStar
I am excited for this movie! going to see it on opening day :)
I hope its not a disappointment.
06-28-2010, 03:29 AM
ThePreserver
As soon as I heard Ellen Page in the commercial say "Wait, you're saying this is a dream?" I was screaming to myself REALITY CHECK BITCH!
07-04-2010, 10:48 AM
slash112
I think I'm going on holiday the day Inception comes out. So I will be delayed a week for seeing it D:
07-04-2010, 06:28 PM
Silent_Lucidity
I have two movie checks which allows me to go see a movie at the theater for free, however I just realized they've faded, fuuuuuuuuuuuuu
I hope they'll still be valid though for "Inception". I mean, I don't want them to be completely faded to the point you can't make out they're actual checks.
07-05-2010, 09:30 PM
catzisconfus
i can't wait ^^
07-07-2010, 12:47 PM
slayer
I arranged a get together with my friends to go see this on Saturday :3
07-07-2010, 11:44 PM
Abra
Hmmm... Might see this when I go check out Toy Story 3. :U
I was gonna start a thread on this if I had internet. :cheeky: I saw a trailer before watching another movie. One thing that annoyed me though is that somewhere in the trailer they said something like "Dreams feel like reality. When you realize that you're dreaming, you wake up." or something along those lines. I don't know if somebody mentioned it already but when I heard that...
07-09-2010, 12:24 PM
DCross
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Originally Posted by Paraknight
I was gonna start a thread on this if I had internet. :cheeky: I saw a trailer before watching another movie. One thing that annoyed me though is that somewhere in the trailer they said something like "Dreams feel like reality. When you realize that you're dreaming, you wake up." or something along those lines. I don't know if somebody mentioned it already but when I heard that...
I think the line you're thinking of is actually "dreams feel real while we're in them - it's only when we wake up that we realise something was strange"
Which, as I'm pretty sure we all know, is true (unless you become lucid :P)
07-09-2010, 02:41 PM
Paraknight
Quote:
Originally Posted by DCross
I think the line you're thinking of is actually "dreams feel real while we're in them - it's only when we wake up that we realise something was strange"
Which, as I'm pretty sure we all know, is true (unless you become lucid :P)
Ohhh ok, that makes sense. :tongue: I heard "dreams feel real while we're in them - we only we wake up when we realise something was strange".
07-09-2010, 08:39 PM
SharkBBQ
One of the actors on TV sai he started researching about dreams, found out about lucid dreaming and is trying to have one
That's especially awesome because I've actually been using that exact idea as part of my reality checks for years.
07-11-2010, 07:54 PM
Black_Eagle
9.6 on IMBD O.O If it maintains that rating, it'll be rated the best movie ever made.
Is lucid dreaming ever explicitly mentioned in this movie?
07-11-2010, 08:14 PM
slash112
Not that I know of yet. But I hope it is.
Although "shared dream" was. Which would lead a lot of people to the BD section of DV and they will find out about LDing anyways. So that's half the battle, isn't it.
07-11-2010, 08:28 PM
MJMax
Yeah, I hope they explicitly use the words "lucid dreaming," and I hope they don't give any false idea about it. But technically, as soon as she says "Are we dreaming?" they're lucid dreaming. It would be cool if they had a scene where the dream became more vivid instead of destabilizing when lucidity occurs. :D
07-12-2010, 12:04 AM
HeavySleeper
I'm going to see it when it comes out. I can't wait!
I told my cousin about lucid dreaming just a few weeks ago and she thought it sounded weird. When she saw the advert for Inception she knew that I'd want to see it and asked me if i wanted to go with her to watch it.
She just thought I was weird when I first mentioned it but since she saw the advert she thinks it actually looks cool. A lot of members have mentioned that people have judged them because of lucid dreaming. Maybe this film will show all of our friends and relatives who judged us that we aren't crazy. Let's hope so.
07-12-2010, 02:09 AM
Xei
Hah, DV is gonna go crazy about this...
imdb ratings are usually a bit inflated to begin with, but still, the reviews sound awesome. 100 on metacritic? I've never heard anything remotely like that.
07-14-2010, 11:49 PM
XeL
Damn... When will this come to Europe?
07-15-2010, 12:03 AM
slash112
As usual, probably like, 2 years later.
07-15-2010, 02:43 AM
JamesLD
after watching all the trailers i realized that we've only seen maybe a total of 5 minutes from the actual movie, and if those 5 minutes are really bad ass, i can only imagine all the other cool shit that's going to happen in the rest of the movie that we have no idea about.
damn, i cant wait. this is the movie ive been waiting for. been following it since the first trailer premiered many months back.
only 1 more day!
07-15-2010, 03:54 AM
BlakeE45
Damn I wish dreams looked that cool when you start to feel it end, I wouldn't mind it so much then. lol :)
07-15-2010, 05:11 AM
conradC
I wonder if "Inception" will explain how to lucid dream at all?
This is a web show I found that's about going into other peoples dreams. It has a huge part about learning to lucid dream. Pretty cool.
I JUST GOT BACK FROM THE INCEPTION! It does not explain the concept of Lucid Dreaming but they do talk about Dream Signs and recognising that you are dreaming. They take advantage of the fact that most people think dreams are reality and then implant ideas in this other guy's mind through shared dreaming. They also explore the concept of a dream within a dream within a dream and they see how far they can take that. Well, there is only so much I can say without revealing the whole plot. The movie is definitely worth watching and they all acted incredibly well :D
07-16-2010, 01:18 AM
JamesLD
Quote:
Originally Posted by TerriblyLovely
but they do talk about Dream Signs and recognising that you are dreaming.
so then they do basically talk about lucid dreaming, without actually saying "lucid dreaming"
07-16-2010, 02:09 AM
pointofbeing
After receiving about 45-1 and having 9.5 average unheard of really... A rash of 20 bad reviews came out of no ware over the last day! And like with waking life I can just tell the people who are not enjoying it are just no interested in or understand dreams. One of the reviews ripped on the dream world being too much visually like real life and that thinking seemed like real life thinking. Another "top critic" ripped on a scene ware the world and buildings started imploding saying nonsensical (It's because DiCaprio is explaining that she's dreaming to Ellen Page's caterer and her dreams now unstable but I guess the reviewer knows everything scientifically conceivable in the world. But none of the bad review compare to "know it all if it has a hint of a budget to it must be bad REX REED"...
None of this prattling drivel adds up to one iota of cogent or convincing logic (dreams need logic?). You never know who anyone is, what their goals are, who they work for or what they're doing. (It's called use your brain Rex)
Luckily lot's of very positive review's are coming in, and even tho 20 negative reviews are in. The positives review are positive enough to make Average Rating:8.3/10 Even at an insanely high 98% how to train you're dragon is only averaging 8.0. So it would seem people who like it love it. And if you don't you really don't. Meaning Good boy Nolan is making people think again. :D
07-16-2010, 02:14 AM
slash112
I saw Rex Reed's review. I was baffled at how stupid it was.
But yea, even with those idiot reviews, it ends up with brilliant results in total. Which is excellent.
07-16-2010, 02:42 AM
pointofbeing
<<I saw Rex Reed's review. I was baffled at how stupid it was.>>
Ya he seems to think dreams have to be completely wonky all the time or not at all, the concept that dreams have different gravity's or different possibility's in different dreams seems to baffle that old man. He's all like why didn't he take advantage of that before? Because dreams are thought's he didn't think of it before. The Idea that a dream within a dream can happen "hello false awaking" Seems so impossible to him that it must be bad writing. The only bad writing was his revealing the whole plot review.
Hahaha, that's undeniably ironic and hilarious! He's the one who isn't Lucid. During his gratuitous detail on everything like he always does... "He has come from another location conjured up in a dream" I'm convinced Rex thinks they "the people planting inception" are really traveling from place to place rather than just imagining a new dream scene.
07-16-2010, 05:54 AM
MadMonkey
Some times i'd like to slap movie critics. They can be very ignorant sometimes its almost funny if it didn't take down the score of the movie. Its so ironic that he used the term lucid that this morning when I saw his review I thought he was being clevar but I guess not. I hope some people send him some informative emails. lol I can't wait to see it and going to see it tomarow.
07-16-2010, 11:29 AM
CRAZY BONE
To people thinking about seeing the movie:
The focus of this movie is not lucid dreaming, so that should not be the reason to go see it.
07-16-2010, 11:39 AM
JamesLD
Wow reed is a fucking moron for not understanding this movie.
07-16-2010, 06:39 PM
pointofbeing
<<Wow reed is a fucking moron for not understanding this movie.>>
I absolutely believe if this was directed by Ethan Coen, Joel Coen, with no budget (They are good I'm just saying Reed can't hide his grudges) Reed would be all over it like a dog in heat. Even With the same plot.
07-17-2010, 02:15 AM
pointofbeing
The 30th bad review exclaims: Inception becomes its own nightmare by trying to be "too" smart. Apparently "valentines day" wasn't "too" smart, she gave it a higher rating.
07-17-2010, 02:33 AM
shinta66
Saw it earlier today. I thought it was a pretty fat movie. And that movie critic could suck a fat one.
07-17-2010, 03:46 AM
JamesLD
hey how do i make that "spoiler" bar thingy so i can say some stuff and not ruin the movie for people who havent seen it
07-17-2010, 05:12 AM
ElsiaStar
I saw Inception today with some friends! We all liked it very much and I can't wait to see it again! It was a bit confusing, it's one of those movies you have to see a few times in order to fully understand it(at least for me). It also caused me to do a couple reality checks :)
Spoiler for Inception Ending:
The ending was so sad! I thought for sure that the top would stop spinning :(.
By the way, JamesLD, you make that spoiler thing by going to "Go Advanced" and clicking on the Spoiler button on top that looks like a box within a box.
07-17-2010, 06:21 AM
MadMonkey
I saw inception today and I enjoyed it more than I have any movie in a long time. Its now one of my favorite movies. I liked it so much cuz it realy resonated with my experiences with lucid dreaming and also the acting was awsome and had plenty of good action. The only thing about dreaming that wasn't spot on was the time thing and thats sort of right. Stephan LaBerge proved that in most dreams time is consistant with normal time though it is definitly possible for dreams to seem longer because from your brain thinking faster but not always like they have it in the movie. That also was intresting to me because I have just started trying to find a good time dialation technique for myself. To all you who see the movie be prepared to think alot because its one of those movies that if you don't pay attention you might get confused and that takes alot away from the experience (I also like movies where you have to think alot :P). It just made the perfect movie for me.
07-17-2010, 07:34 AM
JamesLD
Spoiler for the ending:
well you dont exactly know if the top stops spinning or not, it starts to wobble but then the scene cuts to black so we cant be for sure. im sure nolan did this on purpose just to leave us with that feeling of unsureness and make us come up with our own conclusion. although after seeing this movie twice, im almost convinced leo's character is dreaming the entire movie, so all the scenes where you think its reality its still a dream. anybody else have any thoughts on this
07-17-2010, 09:03 AM
atkins513
Amazing
I thought this movie was absolutely amazing. There were many parts where you can relate this directly to what its like being lucid, like the part where he reveals to her that she is currently dreaming for the very first time and the dream starts to immediately destabilize... Tell me we all didn't experience this the very first time we had our 1st lucid experience.. spot on if you ask me.. the movie was pretty thrilling.. Many things line up with lucid dreaming even though the term is never used directly.. one thing i do find very interesting is that I just read an Article http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/inside-inception-christopher-nolans-dream-world-exist-real/story?id=11174201&page=1 that said the director Christopher Nolan is an avid lucid dreamer. He says he has been lucid dreaming himself since the age of 16, and has actively mastered the technique.. he even says that he used lucid dreaming to come up with different plots in the movie, as in he actively came up with the ideas while being lucid.. then woke up and wrote down the ideas.. I find this very interesting.. and as for the ending..
Spoiler for ENDING SPOILER:
I personally think that he was in reality, because when the top was spun in his lucid states, it was perfectly still, just spinning, but when he did it at the end, it started to wobble pretty hard right before the screen went black..
All in all, I would say I am very impressed with the movie and I do think that this will end up leading people to some lucid dreaming topics through Google searches..
07-17-2010, 11:02 AM
AMG
Saw it a few hours ago and loved it. It's a great film and a must see IMO.
07-17-2010, 12:35 PM
slayer
Yeah make sure you guys put things in [spoiler] tags. Don't be afraid to over-use them. I don't think anyone wants this movie spoiled for them.
07-19-2010, 12:37 AM
pointofbeing
The movie is beyond amazing!
07-19-2010, 03:41 AM
ZmillA
Saw it today, really enjoyed it.
07-19-2010, 03:58 AM
Ferret
this looks so awsome!!! Sad its not out in NZ yet :( realy wana see it
07-19-2010, 05:21 AM
ExitReality
The movie is about lucid dreaming but you have to apply, "movie logic". In other words, it is related to it but only in some ways. I don't want to spoil it for others but basically, only some aspects of the movie relating to Lucid Dreaming are true but I guess you can still use it to advertise LD.
07-20-2010, 08:42 PM
pointofbeing
Inception has the oddest review pattern I've ever seen. Started out with 44 fresh reviews about two days before release with only one negative, After that positive reviews slewed down and received about 33 bad reviews within two days after release. Now the last two days it received noting but highly positive reviews two days ago 160/33 now it's 190/33 with an average review of .82, It's actually tied with the adv review of Shawshank Redemption. My all time favorite movie.
07-28-2010, 10:03 PM
Silent_Lucidity
I was supposed to see the movie today with a friend, but the last date for the movie was yesterday. Somehow we mixed it up, thought today was the last day. Fail. :(
07-28-2010, 10:06 PM
XeL
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent_Lucidity
I was supposed to see the movie today with a friend, but the last date for the movie was yesterday. Somehow we mixed it up, thought today was the last day. Fail. :(
Where the hell in Sweden do you live? >_> Somewhere in the woods?
07-28-2010, 10:31 PM
SpanishFlea
This movie was way too hyped for me. I went and saw it, and granted it was a good movie. Really good effects and it's pretty good at creating a dreamscape. But the way people made it seem, it was like it was supposed to blow my mind. I've already thought about things like dreams in dreams in dreams, I've actually had 2-3 false awakenings before in one dream. I thought the movie was actually really predictable after you knew what was going on. I'd recommend Science of Sleep more than Inception, even Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind (though that's more about memories than dreams.) It was a good movie, but not mind blowing.
07-29-2010, 01:30 AM
Tyson
I'm glad I went into this movie knowing literally nothing about it. I was just invited by a friend to see some film so I thought, yeah, why the heck not. Leonardo DiCaprio you say? Bonus!
I started to realize the subtle dream themes at the beginning just thinking it was a coincidence. I couldn't remember the point I realized about lucid dreaming, but it definitely had me captivated from that point on.
The idea excited me. The idea that I was likely the only one at the screening who knew so little about the film, but I was the only one actually in know. I had actually "been there" so to speak. It also excited me that upon leaving many of those who saw this masterpiece may wind up here, as I did several years ago.
The film does however strike me as a bit of a double edged sword for the lucid dreaming community. With the film comes a potential boost in member numbers (and inevitably a boost in questions already answered innumerable times :cheeky:) but are those members going to be disappointed after seeing the film? Inception puts some pretty tall claims out there which, frankly, anyone who comes expecting something even near the dream experience in the film are going to have them dashed pretty quickly. That could leave some pretty bitter bandwagon-ers at our doorstep.
Regardless, I'm incredibly happy with the film. It has rekindled my love affair with lucid dreaming once more. Hopefully it won't take Inception 2 to keep my interest this time :D
07-29-2010, 01:40 AM
DuB
Other than the shared dreaming aspect, I'd say that real lucid dreams are actually a lot more interesting, fun and satisfying than they were portrayed in the movie. The kinds of dream control they exercised in the movie barely scratch the surface of what I've actually done while lucid, and additionally the movie doesn't fully capture the unpredictable, wondrous, and often nonsensical nature of dream plots, even lucid ones, which nowadays is my favorite part of exploring the dreamscape. I think that overall, people turned onto lucid dreaming by Inception won't be let down.
07-29-2010, 02:16 AM
Tyson
Yeah, I guess you're right. Well, I say you're right. When someone posts a thread asking for websites that sell dream-share machines I reserve the right to revoke that statement :cheeky:
07-29-2010, 05:49 PM
XHarryX
Man I'm going to watch it now I have heard from many places its a great movie now I'm going to make some time for it.
07-29-2010, 06:05 PM
Silent_Lucidity
Quote:
Originally Posted by XeL
Where the hell in Sweden do you live? >_> Somewhere in the woods?
Hahaha, not quite. Boden, Norrbotten county. Why? :|
07-30-2010, 01:13 AM
changed
I saw this movie today and i thought it was good. It wasn't exactly like LDing but it reminded me alot of it. Like when the girl got attacked by the projections (Dream characters). I get attacked by DCs all the time in DCs. Great movie!
07-31-2010, 07:59 PM
XeL
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent_Lucidity
Hahaha, not quite. Boden, Norrbotten county. Why? :|
Quote:
I was supposed to see the movie today with a friend, but the last date for the movie was yesterday. Somehow we mixed it up, thought today was the last day. Fail.
That's what got me thinking.
08-03-2010, 07:02 PM
SilverBells
Bear in mind they had to convince the mark he wasnt dreaming, and not do anything to wacky else his subconcious would turn against them.
08-13-2010, 03:35 AM
MidniteHazard
the thought of limbo scares me. although i dont believe there is such thing with in lucidity, i can give its comparisons to the dreaded false awakening.
an eternity of false awakenings.... ooooooooooooooooooooooo.... (scary music)
08-15-2010, 12:57 AM
SilverBells
Quote:
Originally Posted by MidniteHazard
the thought of limbo scares me. although i dont believe there is such thing with in lucidity, i can give its comparisons to the dreaded false awakening.
an eternity of false awakenings.... ooooooooooooooooooooooo.... (scary music)
Theres a brilliant comic whose name escapes me were a baddy who kidnaps the king of dreams recieves this as a punishment...
I remember, its Sandman by neil gaiman!
08-17-2010, 03:41 PM
Advantageous Noodle
Spoilers to follow
I'm glad this movie was not about some cliche "we're coming to get you in your dreams" nonsense. Granted the idea of PASIV makes absolutely no sense (the ability to share a dream with naught but an IV needle connecting the dreamers), I think the movie was well executed and was "realistic" enough for my taste. So my only beefs with this film is that PASIV made no sense, the dreams were stupidly stable, and "real life" rules seemed to apply more often than they would (dream characters die just as normal people would, guns always fire bullets, weapon optics work properly, their PASIV machines function perfectly from inside the dreams). Everything just worked out perfectly,which we know in dreams almost never happens.
Someone mentioned that they had to convince the mark that they were dreaming - this is false. The marks were unaware of the fact they were in a dream, except for Saito who figured it out due to an inconsistency. They had to convince their primary target that he was actually in a dream and not awake in order for him to cooperate.
08-17-2010, 06:06 PM
Puffin
Quote:
Originally Posted by Advantageous Noodle
Someone mentioned that they had to convince the mark that they were dreaming...
There was a high chance that wouldn't have worked, because he wasn't aware from the beginning that he was dreaming. He'd already passed tons of dream signs and impossible situations, and he didn't notice anything. For him to be told he's dreaming... I'd have thought the idea would just pass over his head again, sort of like when we see dream signs sometimes, or when a DC tells us we're dreaming, and we ignore it.
08-30-2010, 03:04 AM
GenericUser10621
Well i saw the movie today without any prior anticipation, me and my friend went on a whim. I had no idea what the film was about until i watched the trailer a few minutes before leaving - i wasn't too excited but im interested in dreams of course and wanted to see how they explored that field.
Now, im about as pretentious as Rex Reed so if a movie isn't shot under $10,000, has subtitles and features Turkish farmers pondering the existence of their cattle, i assume it'll be mindless junk designed for easy viewing and CGI wank bait with very little intellectual nourishment, and if it has any traces of intelligence ill say its just trying too hard and i can tell all my friends how i hated it in the hope they'll be impressed and feel inferior to my intelligence because i have crippling self esteem issues and i try to convince myself im more intelligent then i am because my mummy and daddy never provided positive influence on my character. I digress. :silent:
But the movie was surprisingly good, and it was pretty damn clever. The dreamscapes they create weren't too ambitious, but stillmade me more jealous because of my LD struggles :mad: . The people who have said "well if they're dreaming why dont they do more ambitious things" may have a point, but i think in terms of plot that was because the "Architect" had the main control. Thats why they treated the dreamscapes realistically, hailing cabs and stealing cars instead of conjuring up hovercrafts and bullet proof suits with their minds. Although, when the guy said "sometimes you've got to dream bigger" and pulled out the grenade launcher from nowhere implies that each individual had some control. I dont know, plotholes probably.
But yeah, entertaining movie, not really the kind film im into and i doubt ill ever watch it again, but still thoroughly enjoyable and rekindled my interest in LDing,from which i took a year long break from. Im also kind of disappointed and confused to why i didn't like it more considering it about a subject i have a very very strong interest in.
PS That Rex Reed review is the funniest excuse for criticism i have read for a long time. That man is such an old wanker, how he still gets published i do not know.
PPS I think i've just written a bunch of shit, but its 3:00 and im very tired so im not going to proofread even though i've probably just embarrassed myself. Who knows? Well, whoever read this will obviously.