If you had read the books... You might learn that Bella doesn't love him for his physical attractiveness.
Allow me to recite some of Meyer's lines to prove you wrong, as well as giving my own opinion of each:
Spoiler for Excerpts:
He lay perfectly still in the grass, his shirt open over his sculpted, incandescent chest, his scintillating arms bare.
Seriously? I know some writers use what some people might consider "big words", but that's only when they're fairly certain that the readers will at least be able to correctly guess what the hell the words in question mean in context. But scintillating? No casual reader will know what the fuck that means without consulting a dictionary. THAT, friends, is bad writing at its finest.
The meadow, so spectacular to me at first, paled next to his magnificence.
Really? DO tell us more of just how perfect our demi-god, Edward the Magnificent, really is... (As if we had a fucking choice.)
As I had just that once before, I smelled his cool breath in my face. Sweet, delicious, the scent made my mouth water.
...That's simply disturbing, no matter who you are.
I could probably go on, but I just wanted to give a general example of how ungodly shallow these books are.
Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant
You know what, "the whole glittering thing" is the ONE aspect of the books that I think is respectable.
Kudos to Meyer for going out and reinventing what it means to be a vampire.
What, just because no one's written something like that before means that the idea is rubbish? Who is anyone to say what vampires are SUPPOSED to be like? They're not real!
Originally Posted by Daydreamer14
As I said.
They aren't real. People can make them how they want them to be. I personally think glittering vampires is not something I would include in a book, but obviously Stephenie Meyer does. That is her decision, and am indeed a fan of the books because of their uniqueness.
Spoiler for Unique, huh...:
Anyway, vampires may not be real, but you apparently don't know how big a part of literature they have been. A vampire is a very quintessential being for the horror genre. Classic. Traditional. Don't know how many other ways I can put it.
...You don't just lay a fucking Cleveland steamer on the face of tradition, man. What Meyer has done to vampires is nothing short of castration. They might as well not even have fucking fangs, if they're just gonna end up going the "No, I'm a good vampire, I'm not in any way compelled by my instinctual urges to suck the life out of anything that moves, that would make me too interesting" route anyway. "Good vampire", huh? Guess that's why they're unholy creatures hated by God who are harmed by the light of the sun (you know...the life-GIVING thing in the sky?) and can't touch a crucifix without sizzling. Top-notch fellows, these vampires.
Bottom line? There's a fine line between "doing something different" with an old concept...and simply making a mockery of it. Meyer has most definitely crossed that line. I can't take Edward any more seriously as a vampire than I can take Tidus seriously as the main hero for Final Fantasy X.
And that was just me griping about the books. If you want the movies summed up in just a few hasty words, take a look at this vid:
Spoiler for As reviewed by a bum...:
That's all I've got to say about that. Peace out, ninjas.
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Twilight actually is not that bad. The first book is bad but the other three are AMAZING. I may be a boy, but I know a good boo and that's a good book.
I agree with you, and I have read many, many books.
I know all about your stupid vampire lore and how it has changed our lives over the centuries and omggg what would literature be without the classic definition of a vampire.
My only point is that just because something has been a certain way all this time doesn't mean it needs to remain so for all eternity.
Some like the glitters, many don't, and that's fine. I personally happen to think that it was a creative move.
IS THAT A PROBLEM??
Originally Posted by Kromoh
I agree with you, and I have read many, many books.
I found Twilight, New Moon, Eclipse, and Breaking Dawn were all good books. I am a mother and I wouldn't mind if my teenage daughter would like to pursue and read the books. We have to remember that the books are FICTIONAL. They are not real and Meyer's writes them as such. The movies are not as well produced as compared to the books. And like other people have stated in this thread, vampires are not real so therefore no one can judge those authors who have taken the time to write such stories. I own all 4 books plus I have purchased both Twilight and New Moon. I'm taking the best side of this topic and saying that I have enjoyed this new movement in American writing.
So yeah, the Twilight graphic novel is out now. Sadly, I think that's only way I could every read this. I started it while My mom and I were at the store. Is it really that boring?
So yeah, the Twilight graphic novel is out now. Sadly, I think that's only way I could every read this. I started it while My mom and I were at the store. Is it really that boring?
Graphic novel!
I bet the glittering sparkles turn into sprinkles in that book...
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He lay perfectly still in the grass, his shirt open over his sculpted, incandescent chest, his scintillating arms bare.
Seriously? I know some writers use what some people might consider "big words", but that's only when they're fairly certain that the readers will at least be able to correctly guess what the hell the words in question mean in context. But scintillating? No casual reader will know what the fuck that means without consulting a dictionary. THAT, friends, is bad writing at its finest.
The meadow, so spectacular to me at first, paled next to his magnificence.
Really? DO tell us more of just how perfect our demi-god, Edward the Magnificent, really is... (As if we had a fucking choice.)
As I had just that once before, I smelled his cool breath in my face. Sweet, delicious, the scent made my mouth water.
...That's simply disturbing, no matter who you are.
I could probably go on, but I just wanted to give a general example of how ungodly shallow these books are.
She acknowledges his beauty... Yes.
That's not to say if he were a regular human she wouldn't want him...
If you saw someone that was incredibly beautiful beyond belief, I'd be amazed if you didn't look twice...
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I think everyone is going just a tad overboard with their hate for a freakin' book. It's a book. Breathe. If you don't like it, that's your opinion.
It doesn't mean everyone has to insult Meyer, just because she actually had the guts to get her book published. And guess what? It turned out to be an award winning book.
So I'll bet, half of you enjoy writing too, correct? And I'll bet none of you have the guts to get anything published, and so instead you scrutinize other people because they did a better job at writing a book then you ever bloody well could.
I also understand some people like horror, some people like mysteries, some people like sci-fi, and so on...
But just because you don't like the type of book Meyer has written, it doesn't mean it's a bad book.
Last edited by Daydreamer14; 04-26-2010 at 02:34 AM.
Higher quantity means more chances of getting good quality. Also, you can't really tell the quality of a book without reading it, mostly because prejudice betrays us, but also because opinions about books are never consensual.
Just throwing it out there. Books are overrated, anyway. Games are way better.
So I'll bet, half of you enjoy writing too, correct? And I'll bet none of you have the guts to get anything published, and so instead you scrutinize other people because they did a better job at writing a book then you ever bloody well could.
It's worse than just bad writing. It's promoting a horrible message to young girls. Date your stalker, drop out of school, make babies, follow mormon vampire family values.
I tought the message was "it doesn't matter if you are ugly unnappealing and not an interesting at all, the perfect guy with super powers will come to you one day even if you don't bother looking for him".
So I'm a 20something and I decided to succumb and read Twilight after my 30something boss suggested it. This was about 2 months ago and I'm now half way through the 4book. First of all yes,the movies seriously suck. Second, I have thoroughly enjoyed all of the books. They are an intense tale of romance, coated with a layer of blood. Just my kind of book. And I like all kinds of books.
Aside from all the hating going on here about the Twilight Craze. I'm suprised no one (those who have actually read the books) has commented on the amount of dreams that Bella has throughout all the books. Sometimes she talks about being lucid but stuck, she describes false awakenings and, in general, her dreams tend to take on a life of thier own with thier intense vividness and at times horrific images. I thought just that aspect of the books was really interesting.
As for the glitter thing. Stephanie Meyer got the idea of the whole story from a dream she had! She said and I'll quote "I woke up (on that June 2nd) from a very vivid dream. In my dream, two people were having an intense conversation in a meadow in the woods. One of these people was just your average girl. The other person was fantastically beautiful, sparkly, and a vampire" (StephenieMeyer.com | Twilight Series | Twilight)
Just giving my 2 cents. I agree that the crazy is dumb, but if that's what makes teenage girls happy, so be it. I do think that people should give the books a chance, but again, it might just not be your thing
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