Thread: PS3 vs. 360, which one??

awww shame...

the xbox doesn't have that problem

Originally Posted by Tarsier

awww shame...

the xbox doesn't have that problem

You're an idiot. HD is HD no matter what the console.

Quit trollin lol

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Originally Posted by Tarsier

specially a 300$ system with no good games hah!

Originally Posted by Tarsier

awww shame...

the xbox doesn't have that problem

Wow I thought you were bad before with the ps3 has no good games post but this is just insanity and total horse shit.

Also Mes, yea I totally forgot about how on SDtv's you can't read text in most games, well call of duty isn't that bad on sdtv, or gta4, metal gear solid 4 was a little tricky in SD, what games did you play you had trouble with?

HDTV's are pretty cheap these days, you can get a nice 26'' or smaller for like under 300 bucks now a days.

I highly recommend getting one with proper hdmi cables, sd is just painful with a current gen system, you get less resolution and a narrow view because sdtv's are in 4:3 and HDTV's are 16:9


Oh yea hmm, I wonder if component cables instead of the RYW (red yellow white) would maybe give a sharper picture?

I know for a fact that the default wires are usually not great, component has like 4 wires for video and 2 for audio and it seems to give a better picture on my tv for my ps2.

One thing that Tarsier said was about the games on PS3. He makes me laugh so hard. Do you even consider the fact that PS3 has MORE games that are higher rated than xBox? Xbox is such a cheap system, with even cheaper manufacturers. No free online service? No bulit in wi-fi? Still using Last Generation DVD's??? Having a very high number of those systems breaking because of how low quality they are? The system actually scratching the games you buy? It has high failure rates, and if you want to waste your money on such a system...go for it.

But it's hilarious how you say the PS3 is "the worse system" when it's completely obvious it's the superior system. Xbox is cheap that breaks your disc's, and breaks itself. So your extremely incorrect with all your statements you've made thus far, get over it. =)

Jorge don't fall for the evil bait, I'm sure he's aware of the 53% failure rate of his oh so precious box.

I bet its because they are made in cheap labor china.

Cheap manufactured products = RROD

hey Tarsier (and everybody else)

See how great the xbox isn't

Originally Posted by Tarsier Jorge

awww shame...

the xbox PlayStation 3 doesn't have that problem

Originally Posted by Jorge

One thing that Tarsier said was about the games on PS3. He makes me laugh so hard. Do you even consider the fact that PS3 has MORE games that are higher rated than xBox? Xbox is such a cheap system, with even cheaper manufacturers. No free online service? No bulit in wi-fi? Still using Last Generation DVD's??? Having a very high number of those systems breaking because of how low quality they are? The system actually scratching the games you buy? It has high failure rates, and if you want to waste your money on such a system...go for it.

But it's hilarious how you say the PS3 is "the worse system" when it's completely obvious it's the superior system. Xbox is cheap that breaks your disc's, and breaks itself. So your extremely incorrect with all your statements you've made thus far, get over it. =)

i already talked about this before and we came to the conclusion that the xbox in fact has more higher rated games including exclusives and multi platforms.

when i say 'ps3 has no good games' i am poking fun. take a joke dweebs.

Originally Posted by Carôusoul

Alright, children, quiet down. I'm here to settle this. And you know you can trust me.

There is not one overall winner in this particular console war, HOWEVER there are contextual winners, and for the most part the PS3 comes out on top.


Why? You may ask. Well, if we had this thread 1 year ago then it would have been the Xbox 360 as a nobrainer. However the world of gming has dramatically changed since then, and now it's become almost entirely the opposite.

Let's start the analysis by looking at Exclusive games. Now these are games which are ONLY available on one system. We use the term "Multiplatform" for games available on both. So here I'm going to compare the top exclusives for both systems.

Spoiler for A note on Xbox Exclusives:

An interesting not when talking about exclusives for the Xbox 360, is that nearly all the top 360 games can actually be bought for the PC, because Microsoft are hesitant to restrict their market. What this means is that top 360 exclusives such as gears of war or Mass Effect can actually be played on a decent PC, with FREE online. Whereas on the console you have to pay, as I'm sure you've heard.

The most recent games of course we are in now a good position to evaluate. So let's look at the TOP REVIEWED exclusive games for the year 2009:

Now Firstly I'm going to give you the exclusive Games with a METACRITIC score of 85+ from each platform.

According to Metacritic, for 2009:

Xbox 360:
Forza Motorsport 3 [92% Good Reviews]

Now the only other contender is Left 4 Dead 2, however considering it is primarily a PC game, it should not truly be counted as an exclusive.

PS3:
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves [96% Good Reviews]
Killzone 2 [92% Good Reviews]
God of War Collection [91% Good Reviews]
Demon's Souls [89% Good Reviews]
InFAMOUS [85% Good Reviews]
Ratchet and Clank Future: A Crack In Time [87% Good Reviews]



So combining this result with multiplatforms, for 2009 the board was essentially sweeped by Sony. Not to mention that previously 360 exclusive titles are consistently coming to PS3, with added features: see Vesperia, Star Ocean, Liberty City Stories.



OK, So that's GAMES for 2009. What about upcoming games? How is 2010 Looking to shape up?

Well it's much more even than last year's essential massacre, However I still feel the PS3 comes out on top.

So here are good looking either confirmed or basically confirmed exclusives for 2010:

Xbox 360:
Mass Effect 2 [This is already out now, and having played it I can say it's a great game.]
Alan Wake
Bioshock 2
Crackdown 2
Halo: Reach
Fable 3
Demons of Mercy
Super Star

PS3:
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
Gran Turismo 5
Heavy Rain [My personal most anticipated game of the year]
The Last Guardian
White Knight Chronicles 2
God of War 3
MAG
Agent
Yakuza 3
Yakuza 4
Twisted Metal
Resistance 3
Starhawk


Now, you may think in terms of quantity these lists look alot closer, which indeed is the case. But let me explain why I feel the PS3 list is the better, and why it will appeal more personally to YOU Mes. Also you Nina.


Let's run through 2010 exclusives one more time, this time considering the style of game:

Xbox 360:
Mass Effect 2 [Sci Fi RPG]
Alan Wake [Horror]
Bioshock 2 [Undersea Shooter Horror]
Crackdown 2 [3rd Person Shooting Madness]
Halo: Reach [First Person Shooter]
Fable 3 [Fantasy RPG]
Demons of Mercy [Action(little yet known)]

So what are the trends: Shooting and RPG basically is the deal here.

Now the PS3 list is actually far more interesting, and revolutionary, whilst as you can see the 360 list is stale status quo gaming. (Just look at all them sequels).

PS3:
Final Fantasy Versus XIII [Final Fantasy, you know the drill]
Gran Turismo 5 [Racing]
Heavy Rain [Practically an interactive and mature movie. The first of it's kind and likely to revolutionise the way we consider Video Games]
The Last Guardian [From team Ico, makers of Shadow of the Collosus, this game looks to be equally unidentifiable, you play as a small boy who befriends a giant Griffin-Like creature:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4E0e-ZCn14]
White Knight Chronicles 2 [Fantasy RPG]
God of War 3 [Hack nd Slash
MAG [First Person Shooter of unprecedented scale: 256 players in a battle at once]
Agent [Adventure]
Yakuza 3 [Sandbox Adventure]
Yakuza 4 [Sandbox Adventure]
Twisted Metal [Racing]
Resistance 3 [First Person Shooter]
Starhawk[Aerial Combat]


Now you must see the difference here. PS3 certinly has it's share of shooters and RPG, but it is alsogoing beyond that this year. Games like MAG, which revolutionises FPS, games like Heavy Rain, which revolutionise gaming, Games like The Last Guardian, which are one of the few instances video games can be considered art.


So as is undeniable, unless you're a shooting loving 13 year old, is that the PS3 is as of now the better choice, without a doubt. This isn't even to mention the pre-2009 games [Metal Gear Solid 4, widely regarded as one of the greatest endings to a series ever].


Now on the other hand, if you do mainly enjoy what you're used to in video games, so shooting and bland fantasy adventures, then choose a 360, because you'll honestly be happier.


OK. So that is games.

What about hardware, other features? Well it's known that the PS3 is the higher-powered piece of kit, due to it's cell processor. It also takes blu-ray discs. What this practically means is that FAR more information can be stored on a disc for a PS3. A good example is Final Fantasy XIII, which is on One disc for the PS3, and 3 discs for the Xbox [even with reduced content].

PS3 has FREE online play, inbuilt WiFi, default wireless controllers, easily chargeable. The Hard Drive is replacable with a typical laptop hardrive, so you can easily upgrade your space.

The Xbox 360 has subscription payed online features, Wired and wireless controllers, and WiFi etc needs to bought seperately from microsoft, at an absurd price.


AN IMPORTANT NOTE REGARDING XBOX 360 HARDWARE: The Xbox is INFAMOUS for it's so called "Red Ring of Death" which can happen any time, and renders the console useless. The current estimated failure rates for the Xbox 360 are as high as "54.2%". Which frankly is absolutely ridiculous. http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/176741.asp

The editor of the leading gaming news website Kotaku.com has himself admitted to having SEVEN xboxes break down so far. Which honestly is absolutely ridiculous, PARTICULARLY for such a shoddy service in the first place.



OK, so we've seen hardware, PS3 won, We've seen Games, PS3 won. The only last thing is PRICE.

Now the PS3 used to be awful here. With a $600 release price it was a disgrace and this is the reason it failed to launch early on in it's lifespan. However last September Sony radically reduced the price of the PS3 and gave it a new model: The PS3 Slim. Now this is as low as $250 on sale new.

The Xbox 360 was always about this price, and now can be got at $199. However when you add on to the retail price the cost of extras that are included with the PS3, such as a Wireless adaptor and online subscription, The Xbox 360 comes out as MORE expensive than the PS3.



So the PS3 at this point in it's life is better in every respect than the Xbox 360.

If you want to play online by the way, you'll find yourself amongst more players of your own age on the PLaystation Network. Surveys have shown the typical age of Playstation owners as consistently higher than 360 owners.

The classic idea of age goes as thus: Wii for ages 0-12, Xbox 360 for ages 12-18, PS3 for ages 18+.

This is also reflected in the games. Wii goes for cartoony happy games, 360 goes for mindless shooting, and PS3 goes for interesting generally "movie-like" games.

Also Xbox LIVE [the xbox online network] Is one of the most horrible places to play ever. I know this from experience, there is a ridiculous amount of foul mouthed 13 years olds, it's frustrating. PSN is significantly better in my experience. Less people have mics, but all that really means is less kids screaming at you.



And finally, the most important aspect is that since I sold my 360 and bought a gaming PC to replace it I only play PS3, and so if either of you buy a PS3, you can play online with me :3


So in short, PS3, there never was another choice. [Also yeah, PS3 games are region free Mes, and far more prevalent in your part of the world]




EDIT: also Blu Ray movies are wonderful, and really should be experienced if you have a HD tv. There's a VAST difference between Blu Ray and DVD. It's one step closer to actually being there, really.

Um, both bioshock and bioshock 2 are also for ps3.

Originally Posted by guerilla

Wow I thought you were bad before with the ps3 has no good games post but this is just insanity and total horse shit.

Also Mes, yea I totally forgot about how on SDtv's you can't read text in most games, well call of duty isn't that bad on sdtv, or gta4, metal gear solid 4 was a little tricky in SD, what games did you play you had trouble with?

HDTV's are pretty cheap these days, you can get a nice 26'' or smaller for like under 300 bucks now a days.

I highly recommend getting one with proper hdmi cables, sd is just painful with a current gen system, you get less resolution and a narrow view because sdtv's are in 4:3 and HDTV's are 16:9


Oh yea hmm, I wonder if component cables instead of the RYW (red yellow white) would maybe give a sharper picture?

I know for a fact that the default wires are usually not great, component has like 4 wires for video and 2 for audio and it seems to give a better picture on my tv for my ps2.

I don't have an HDtv and i've never had problems reading text on ps3 games.

Maybe your SD is a good tv still even though its 480Interlaced at best

My old sd had trouble with blurry text but the game itself looked just fine.

Originally Posted by guerilla

Maybe your SD is a good tv still even though its 480Interlaced at best

My old sd had trouble with blurry text but the game itself looked just fine.

Yeah it's great for a SD, the game looks terrific, I can read the dialog text in dragon age more or less fine but... ANYthing else, like menus, little item descriptions, etc, are near impossible.

I think I just might need to buy a small hdtv for this. Which, I repeat, is BULL!

Nah thats not bull, its sort of an incentive to buy an hdtv, plus then you can enjoy amazing blu ray films, you know you want to watch a movie in 1080p or 720p

When I got my PS3 I bought the console at around 360$ or so, the Fatty version with GTA4 and MGS4 and then bought the 26'' tv for about 299 a dynex, SWEET and cheap tv, does 720p and looks great.

hmm that was a long while ago when I had a JOB!...grr now I can't buy any games.

Its personal preference

/thread

lol you're late

Mes, once you go HD you can never go back, you'll see. lol

Yeah Mes once you upgrade your tv you are going to see a HUGE difference. No exaggeration. To prove that even furthur once you are playing on a HDTV for a while, switch back to standard def and you will be shocked to see how blurry most standard def tv's really are.

Sigh. SIGH! You guys are right. Just sucks cuz I'll be moving countries in like 5 months and will most likely have to sell this thing, ahhh I'll worry about that later I suppose.

Why do you keep having to switch countries?

Because I took a temporary teaching job in South Korea for the hell of it, and soon it'll be time to move somewhere else. Frankly this country is pissing me off.

Originally Posted by Banana

Its personal preference

/thread

mhm i said this at least 3 times when i joined the conversation but no one seemed to get it.

Mes, you cannot play games without HD any more. No HD is like having sex with a robot.
You need to get HD. It's only like $500 bucks for a 32" full HD LCD TV now.

Originally Posted by Tarsier

awww shame...

the xbox doesn't have that problem

Originally Posted by O'nus

You're an idiot. HD is HD no matter what the console.

Quit trollin lol

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rofl

Xbox360 is better, PS3 is ughhhhh, if they redid the user interface, the web browser, the controller and the design problems, I would be a fanboy, but they won't, so huff. Just make a new console I say, that has all the features of PS3, but fixes those elements. Also, someone needs to make a remote that can be used like the Wii remote, but with a small inbuilt qwerty keyboard -- point, click, type, enter.

As it stands though, Xbox360 is a better choice if you're only interested in the gaming side of it. PS3 has more functionality and potential, but lacks the required user-friendliness and ease to support all that it is. The graphics are potentially better, but not smoother, mostly bad anti-aliasing is what I experience with PS3. The 360 has more graphics potential than most give credit for, and more than most developers will design for. Halo: Reach is coming out soon, that will be loveliness.

I love the GUI, I don't seem to get why its user-unfriendly

pretty user friendly to me.

Originally Posted by guerilla

I love the GUI, I don't seem to get why its user-unfriendly

pretty user friendly to me.

I second this.

I havn't had any problems with;
- browser; I've watched good youtube toons on there
- user-interface; what are you guys talking about? Just because it's not what you're used to doesn't mean it's bad. I've used dashboard and ps3 and have no problem with either.
- controller; this is preference really. Honestly, I much prefer the ps3 controller.. also, how do you charge your controllers again..? How good is the wireless capability? Bluetooth? Six-axis? Vibration to boot? Yeah, exactly.

Further, if we learned anything from the Sega vs. Nintendo saga, it is that boasting better graphics is not a bonus to a console. It is the games that make it.

Oh but wait.. the mass majority of games in the world are on both systems.

Xbox for Fable - which is not as good as oblivion anyway. I really do not see any other good exclusives; no ones mentioning any. Any shooter you mention is shamed by MW2; which is on all systems. As well as the upcoming BC2.

I get the notion that most Xbox fanboys are actually Halo fans.

lol jeez.

Still..

..

Mac's suck. HAW HAW

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yes the games are the main thing that matters and that's personal preference just like pretty much every other thing. i showed that the xbox has more higher rated games earlier, what are you trying to prove?

Originally Posted by Tarsier

yes the games are the main thing that matters and that's personal preference just like pretty much every other thing. i showed that the xbox has more higher rated games earlier, what are you trying to prove?

No, you didn't. You just linked metacritic.com

Here, it was done before you:

Xbox 360:
Mass Effect 2 [Sci Fi RPG]
Alan Wake [Horror]
Crackdown 2 [3rd Person Shooting Madness]
Halo: Reach [First Person Shooter]
Fable 3 [Fantasy RPG]
Demons of Mercy [Action(little yet known)]

So what are the trends: Shooting and RPG basically is the deal here.

Now the PS3 list is actually far more interesting, and revolutionary, whilst as you can see the 360 list is stale status quo gaming. (Just look at all them sequels).

PS3:
Final Fantasy Versus XIII [Final Fantasy, you know the drill]
Gran Turismo 5 [Racing]
Heavy Rain [Practically an interactive and mature movie. The first of it's kind and likely to revolutionise the way we consider Video Games]
The Last Guardian [From team Ico, makers of Shadow of the Collosus, this game looks to be equally unidentifiable, you play as a small boy who befriends a giant Griffin-Like creature:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4E0e-ZCn14]
White Knight Chronicles 2 [Fantasy RPG]
God of War 3 [Hack nd Slash
MAG [First Person Shooter of unprecedented scale: 256 players in a battle at once]
Agent [Adventure]
Yakuza 3 [Sandbox Adventure]
Yakuza 4 [Sandbox Adventure]
Twisted Metal [Racing]
Resistance 3 [First Person Shooter]
Starhawk[Aerial Combat]

Pay attention.

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