Thread: Derren Brown: How to control the nation

Quick explanation to people who may not know what happened. Derren Brown attempted to make peope at home get stuck in their chairs while watching their telly by suggestion, sound and (snow on the screen type thing going in a circle).

I can't give a youtube link or channel 4od link because none are up yet and he said it doesn't work on the computer because it hasn't got a high enough resolution or something like that.

On me and my sister, we made ourselves believe it would work to make it more likely it would and we even watched it twice (sky+) but it didn't work on either of us although we did get weak tingly feelings on the parts that were in contact with the chair. This could of been placebo.

So did anybody watch it and get any weird feelings or did you get stuck to the chair after watching it? There have been people who claim that it worked on them but most are children or the attention seeking crowd.

The whole show in 5 parts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kleU33g9kKU

It only works if you truly believe it works.

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

It only works if you truly believe it works.

No actually it does not.


I just finished watching it, damn the part of the people giving money away like mad and the guy giving his SHOES away was awesome.

Originally Posted by Black_Eagle

It only works if you truly believe it works.

Well, my sister truly believed it would work, though I said that she made herself believe it in my first post. Oops.

No actually it does not.

It's all psychological. You have to believe it works, even at the subconscious level.

Had absolutely no impact on me. And the quality of the youtube vid was excellent.

Similarly with lucid dreaming, I've effortlessly achieved things first time that many struggle with. The only limitation I found was with light switches not working, even when I didn't believe it in the slightest (though I did immediately disprove the idea that light levels can't be changed by 'thinking' the light on instead). Very few things seem to be limited by the brain's software. Many things are limited by expectations.

A lot of Derren's other illusions work on a similar principle. There's one where he manages to manipulate how people spin a set of tables, and convinces them they're not moving the table but following it. Obviously they are moving the table, they're just not aware of it.

Also have to bear in mind that some people are simply 'weak-minded', and easily influenced.

Originally Posted by Photolysis

Also have to bear in mind that some people are simply 'weak-minded', and easily influenced.

Actually with hypnosis they say it works better on people with more creative personalities. Ofcourse, he did say it only worked on higher resolutions.

Originally Posted by Photolysis

It's all psychological. You have to believe it works, even at the subconscious level.

What are you talking about, Perception Without Awareness has nothing to do with belief.

One can still not belief it will work, and still be affected.

Watch the part where he test different videos in six people. They are not aware of what is going to happen, but it still happens.

Did the guy who gave his shoes away believe it would happen? No he did not.

Now, in hypnosis one operates with the term "suggestibility", some people are easy to influence and some are not. If you have a high suggestibility you can easily be hypnotised to do or experience certain things. You can still believe hypnosis is bullshit, but that often change after the person do some crazy act while hypnotised.