Thread: Is It Worth Getting A Ps3

Well, I played the PS3 for about four hours. Mostly Resistance at my friend's house. Anyway, I wasn't overly impressed. Fun game, to be sure, but no better than Gears of War or even Halo 1 or 2.
And really, that's pretty much the only solid game that's holding up the PS3 right now.
Anyway, aside from that, there are tons of interface problems, usability annoyances (like that no-background-downloading + out-of-the-box-upgrade-needed bit. Real classy, Sony.)
Anyway.
Not impressed. It sucked.
Not that it wasn't capable--only that it wasn't capable enough to merit the price tag.
Seriously. Spend less than half the money and get a Wii.
Totally worth it.

If your reason for purchasing a PS3 is only for certain titles that have yet to be released, I would wait. When they are released it will give the PS3 more value to you I would imagine, thus it might seem worth it.

I have been moving around on the systems quite a bit starting with NES then moving to SNES. I did not like the direction Nintendo was going, so I became a fan of Sony and got a PS1 and 2. I eventually got a Gamecube to play what I believe were some of the best games of the last generation (like Metroid Prime or SSBM). I would agree that the Gamecube did not quite cut it though, due to the lack of titles.

I hate the direction Sony is going now. I don’t want them to win this generation because to me that is like giving permission for these companies to put whatever price tag they want on their consoles. With the lack of good exclusives on the PS3, I don’t see the point in getting it until the price is cut. I do want FFXIII, but that won’t be out for a long time. If PS2 hadn’t ruined almost every title I enjoyed on the PS1, there would be more for me to expect. Unfortunately, several series were just not as good.

I did, however, get the Wii. I am still waiting for games to come out, but that would be the case for both systems. I think it will also get some support and the kiddy appearance might change if they advertise the right games. With how well it is doing at the moment, I would expect several developers to work with it. Even Hideo Kojima has expressed interest, but I doubt he makes anything related to MGS. Also, your arm can get tired playing Wii, but if you don’t want it to, it won’t. A lot of people enjoy exaggerating the movements, in games like Wii Sports at least. This will tire your arm out after a lot of play, but you can also play sitting down with relaxed movements. I choose to get into Wii sports, but for Zelda, I assume a relaxed position and play it casually. My position is also more relaxed than if I were using a regular controller. So far, from Zelda, I have had no problems with becoming exhausted.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

Lol. I'd say I pretty much disagree with everything you just said, Sloth.

But to each his own, right?
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Actually, there's one part of sloth's post that I feel is especially correct:

If it doesn't work, it must be broken. Punch it a few times. If this doesn't work, it's beyond repair.[/b]

This is very true. Consoles don't allow easy access to software/OS, or replacement of components (simply because they are indeed consoles), so the consumer is left to the manufacturer for all problems.

My friends were guilty of this. An Xbox 1 had malfunctioned (red light/orange light blinking), and we were left in mystery to the problem. I took the logical route, and saw (or rather heard) that the hard drive was acting up. I took I quick break after that to use the restroom, after which I returned to see--you guessed it--my friends slapping the thing around. After 2 hours of hanging out, they tried again, hitting the console. The worst part is, is that they succeeded in getting the thing to work.

Originally Posted by Koji

I hate the direction Sony is going now. I don’t want them to win this generation because to me that is like giving permission for these companies to put whatever price tag they want on their consoles.
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Maybe so, but would ya really want Xbox 360 'winning'? It'd show instead, that it comes down to 'Mine's bigger than yours' graphics, monopolising of all the best games companies with exclusive titles, and even more stupid Xbox adverts. I'd opt for Sony any day

Even Hideo Kojima has expressed interest, but I doubt he makes anything related to MGS. Also, your arm can get tired playing Wii, but if you don’t want it to, it won’t.
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I dunno, if they even have Snake in SSBB, I don't see why he wouldn't have his own title on the Wii, even if it's another remake

Originally Posted by Joseph_Stalin

Actually, there's one part of sloth's post that I feel is especially correct:
This is very true. Consoles don't allow easy access to software/OS, or replacement of components (simply because they are indeed consoles), so the consumer is left to the manufacturer for all problems.

My friends were guilty of this. An Xbox 1 had malfunctioned (red light/orange light blinking), and we were left in mystery to the problem. I took the logical route, and saw (or rather heard) that the hard drive was acting up. I took I quick break after that to use the restroom, after which I returned to see--you guessed it--my friends slapping the thing around. After 2 hours of hanging out, they tried again, hitting the console. The worst part is, is that they succeeded in getting the thing to work.
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Good point there, actually.
That is very true.

Originally Posted by Wolffe

Maybe so, but would ya really want Xbox 360 'winning'? It'd show instead, that it comes down to 'Mine's bigger than yours' graphics, monopolising of all the best games companies with exclusive titles, and even more stupid Xbox adverts. I'd opt for Sony any day[/b]

Yeah, I hate that too. I hate Xbox 360 just because I don't think Microsoft is in it for the gaming, they are just trying to monopolize on the popularity. I would indeed choose Sony over that, but it is still a tough decision because I wouldn't want to feed Sony's arrogance. That is part of the reason I chose the Wii though. I don't have to deal with either, at least not right now.

I dunno, if they even have Snake in SSBB, I don't see why he wouldn't have his own title on the Wii, even if it's another remake[/b]

They might make a remake or some additional game to the MGS series, but I read somewhere that Kojima is looking at trying something new. Of course, he has said similar things in the past and yet we still get more of it hehe. Honestly, I think it would be great if he would try to do both. It might take some time but I think it would be worth it for him and the gamers.

Um. I'm pretty sure every company would leap at the chance for a monopoly, guys. Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo or George's First Lemonade Stand - all of those enterprises are ultimately in it to win it.

Originally Posted by Wolffe

I dunno, if they even have Snake in SSBB, I don't see why he wouldn't have his own title on the Wii, even if it's another remake
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I didn't understand that, I mean, Snake appeared in a NES game, but after almost 20 years of Snake being out of a Nintendo console, they (nintendo) agrees to add him to SSBB, and still MGS is released for PS3, Nintendo I don't know wtf are you thinking and why did you allow that, even Megaman or Sonic should have more opportunity to be in ...

Anyway I think you could wait a little for the ps3 price to drop (if it ever drops) because there are rumors that say that Sony is going to release and enhanced PS3, with better video/audio capabilities ...didn't Ken already said that the PS3 was the best thing ever?

But Wii for me!

Originally Posted by Kaniaz

Um. I'm pretty sure every company would leap at the chance for a monopoly, guys. Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo or George's First Lemonade Stand - all of those enterprises are ultimately in it to win it.
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Except Sony were kinda 'soldiers of fortune' when it came to the PS, and Nintendo make games as well, which are beautifully crafted. Microsoft just hire well-liked companies to make games for the Xbox, for the money. It's like supporting the Nazis with a 'well I guess everyone would take over the world given a chance, leave the Nazis be' kinda thing. (Oh yes, bring it on, "Godwin's law")

It's like supporting the Nazis of technology with a 'well I guess everyone would take over the world given a chance, leave the Nazis be' kinda thing. (Oh yes, bring it on, "Godwin's law")[/b]

Yeah. Microsoft has very few parallels with the, uh, Nazi regime. Godwin's law.

You are correct sir; they are all in it for the money.

My issue is that Microsoft, to me, is simply riding the coattails of the industry. They saw profit, so they dipped into the huge reservoir of money they have and cashed in for nothing but even more riches.

Don’t get me wrong, they all see profit in it, or at least have seen it. Sony and Nintendo were around before it became explosively popular though. The industry was still growing to what it is today, and they helped build it along with Sega.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

Lol. I'd say I pretty much disagree with everything you just said, Sloth.

But to each his own, right?
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Please elaborate.
You're saying you DO have to think to make the console game work? Is there something else you must do to make it work other than plug it in, and turn it on? Please explain.

I DON't know how it stacks up to other systems based on the actual system specs?? What else is there? Please explain why you disagree.

You're saying it IS better to just agree with other people's opinions of a machine than actually studying it and making a conclusion based on hard evidence? Please explain why you feel this way.

What more do you do with your PS3 when it breaks, that a caveman would not do to his campfire when it broke? You disagree with this too?

I'll say it again. There is absolutely nothing that the PS3 can do that my computer cannot.

My two cents
if your a serious gamer, buy a Xbox 360, whack it up to a HD tv
and experience every gamers dream
and yes its abolsutley brilliant for first perosn shooters
its graphics and such are brilliant for any kind of game
but, if like me your on a budget, and love the kid like joy on nintendo consoles
get a wii, wave the stick about and ahve sum bloody fun
ive got a wii, and im hoping to get a 360 sometime when ive got enough moeny saved up
problem is the games are too expensive
i can buy the console but then ive got to pay £50 a game

so yeh, dont go for a ps3
if your a serious gamer get a 360
if not
you'll love a wii
Imran


EDIT: on the topic of morality and umm nazis = microsoft conversation your haivng lol
I alwyas buy a ninento as soon as it comes out
thats the authentic true gaming experience, I want to support nineto and keep them around as long as possible so people can expeorince more clasics like mario =)
but it ahs to be said, the microsoft consoles are great quality and you know, if i must sell my soul, so be it
lol

Originally Posted by sloth

Please elaborate.
You're saying you DO have to think to make the console game work? Is there something else you must do to make it work other than plug it in, and turn it on? Please explain.

I DON't know how it stacks up to other systems based on the actual system specs?? What else is there? Please explain why you disagree.

You're saying it IS better to just agree with other people's opinions of a machine than actually studying it and making a conclusion based on hard evidence? Please explain why you feel this way.

What more do you do with your PS3 when it breaks, that a caveman would not do to his campfire when it broke? You disagree with this too?

I'll say it again. There is absolutely nothing that the PS3 can do that my computer cannot.
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As far as "hitting the system to 'fix' it, when it's broken," no. I don't disagree.

Although I don't think "just plugging it in to make it work" is necessarily a bad thing, any more than I think turning a key to make a car start is ridiculously primitive.

As far as specs, there is a lot more than just the specs of a machine that makes it worthy or unworthy of purchase, one of those being the titles available throughout the life of the system. From about everything I've read (unless I'm misreading) the PS3 has the specs that could possibly make it the most powerful and most versatile system available, by the time all the present-gen systems have maxed-out their full potentials. Sure, I'm only going off of reviews from people who have tested it because that is all I really have to go by. Not being technically savvy enough to know exactly what playing the PS3 in another year and a half, when the games begin to show what it can do, will be like, (and, honestly, I don't see how anyone can be, because one has to, again, take into account the quality of games that are going to be made for the system, that haven't been made yet) I'd think the best a person could do is keep a running awareness of how good the system is doing, by evaluating various reviews, at the present time.

You're saying that, when the 360 first came out, you know what playing Gears of War would be like? You know how beautiful/responsive/aesthetically pleasing/difficult/immersive it would be? You know what the top-end games for the system, when it's reached it's technological climax (which hasn't happened yet) will be like? If not, how can you say how a brand new system like the PS3 will stack up in the console wars, by the time it's maxed-out it's potential?

I believe (not know, of course) that your stance comes from the faith that none of the present-gen consoles can stack up against the power of a computer, as far as performance goes, and I'm not going to argue with that. But when the question is, basically, "which of the consoles to get" I don't think "screw the consoles, stick with a computer" is an adequate(sp) answer.

As far as "doing what a computer can do," as far as performance, again, I don't disagree. Some people though, myself included, don't like being confined to their desk any time they want to play a game. Some people like being able to split-screen with friends. They like being able to hook up their console to any TV (providing it has the HD capabilities to handle the new consoles, to potential), and get gameplay from the comfort of their couch. They like to play on Huge screen TV's when they are available and be able to readily retreat to a smaller TV when/if needed. They like to take their controllers over to a friend's house that may only have one, get wasted and, again, split-screen with each other, or allow someone else the luxury of using their computer while they are dead-set on beating a difficult stage on their own console. Etc.

Of course, these options are not appealing to everyone, which is why I said "to each his own," but, like I said in another thread, unless your aim is to sit alone at your computer desk and basically shut out an in-house, social gaming experience or get a limited gaming experince on a laptop, there are simply some things you can't do with your comp. Even some of those I listed can still be done, but that's only if the idea of moving your entire PC set up around, constantly, is appealing to you.

..serious gamer?
I have more buttons on my mouse than the PS3 has on its controller, plus 102 extras on the keyboard. Also, I would like to see anyone try to spin around 180 degrees and fire instantly with a console controller.
I'd take on a console gamer any damn day with a mouse and keyboard.

Time it sometime. Check out how long it takes you to spin a full 360 degrees with your favorite 1st person shooter. It's pathetic.

Oh, and as far as HDTV goes, the computer monitor has had the same resolutions as HDTV since I was a small child. So, hooking a computer up to a HDTV is no problem at all.

Look, I'm sorry guys. It's just that console games have always made me mad. They are so inferior and so pricey. Game companies have been taking people up the rear for years now.

As far as the Wii goes. I don't see why it takes an entire other console game just to cover that one concept. An entire system just to incorporate a different type of controller? If I were to play any console game though, it would be the Wii. It's a nice concept, and I've heard only good things about it.

I'd still like to see someone spin around 180 degrees in a milisecond though.

-sloth

Originally Posted by sloth

I'd still like to see someone spin around 180 degrees in a milisecond though.
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Heh. That's the problem, though, Slothman. You're comparing apples and oranges.

Sure, you can take on a console gamer, any damn day, using a mouse and keyboard. But, when playing on a console, you are under the same handicap. That's always been my main pet-peeve about playing FPS's on a console. The aim sucks. It has always sucked and, until they do something about it, it will always suck. Aiming on a console is absolutely Shit, compared to aiming with a mouse. I completely agree with you.

But there is more to gaming than First Person Shooters (and believe me, I love FPS's, but let's be fair here). Having gotten used to a keyboard and mouse, playing a console gamer on a console, there's a very good chance you'd get slaugtered.

And as far as "more buttons on a mouse" let's see:

The PS3, taking into account the Six-Axis tilt, has 28 different analog buttons/directions, not to mention the fact that most console games use 2 to 3 button combinations for single actions.

How many buttons do you have on your mouse?

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

As far as "doing what a computer can do," as far as performance, again, I don't disagree. Some people though, myself included, don't like being confined to their desk any time they want to play a game. Some people like being able to split-screen with friends. They like being able to hook up their console to any TV (providing it has the HD capabilities to handle the new consoles, to potential), and get gameplay from the comfort of their couch. They like to play on Huge screen TV's when they are available and be able to readily retreat to a smaller TV when/if needed. They like to take their controllers over to a friend's house that may only have one, get wasted and, again, split-screen with each other, or allow someone else the luxury of using their computer while they are dead-set on beating a difficult stage on their own console. Etc.

Of course, these options are not appealing to everyone, which is why I said "to each his own," but, like I said in another thread, unless your aim is to sit alone at your computer desk and basically shut out an in-house, social gaming experience or get a limited gaming experince on a laptop, there are simply some things you can't do with your comp. Even some of those I listed can still be done, but that's only if the idea of moving your entire PC set up around, constantly, is appealing to you.
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My assessment os a system is not based on the titles that come out for it. To me, that's like judging a car by the driver that sits in it. But in all fairness this is a valid point when it comes to video games. You make a good point here.
The only piece that I still disagree with you on is the part highlighted above. Have you never been to a LAN party? My friends and I hate split screen. Why split one screen when you can each have your own? And my system is a laptop. . one of them.. I am not nearly as confined with this notebook sized beauty than someone else is with a console that is dependant upon a TV AND an electrical outlet. i don't know what kind of limited gaming experience you are talking about. My laptop is awesome. lol And it still outperforms the PS3.

-sloth

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

The PS3, taking into account the Six-Axis tilt, has 28 different analog buttons/directions, not to mention the fact that most console games use 2 to 3 button combinations for single actions.

How many buttons do you have on your mouse?
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Well shit. i have ten.

Well, not having an awesome laptop, I can't confidently contest that. I know, though, that I love big screens and audio hooked up to massive speakers. I've only been to one LAN party and, I agree, it was pretty dope. But, I gotta say that I've never enjoyed playing a game on a laptop any more than I've enjoyed playing one on a small television, which has never been that much. It's all about preference though and, being used to one will, reasonably, influence a bias against the other. That's true for both sides of the arguement, no?

HOW DID I MISS THIS THREAD?
I own a PS3 and I am loving it. Resistance: fall of man is awesome. It is more than enough to tide me over till some more good games come out. Now I am not such a hardcore gamer. I go through maybe 6 games a year. so maybe for some, 1 game is not enough for now. So wait, but for those who are fairly casual (and happen to be in a good financial situation) go for it.
By the way my ID is Lord_Bricfa if you ever want to play some online.
PM me first so I know its not just a random buddy request.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

Well, not having an awesome laptop, I can't confidently contest that. I know, though, that I love big screens and audio hooked up to massive speakers. I've only been to one LAN party and, I agree, it was pretty dope. But, I gotta say that I've never enjoyed playing a game on a laptop any more than I've enjoyed playing one on a small television, which has never been that much. It's all about preference though and, being used to one will, reasonably, influence a bias against the other. That's true for both sides of the arguement, no?
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Absolutely. i'm really not trying to be completely closed minded about this. However i must point out that you can plug a laptop into a large screen HDTV with no problem.

-sloth

Originally Posted by sloth

Absolutely. I'm really not trying to be completely closed minded about this. However i must point out that you can plug a laptop into a large screen HDTV with no problem.

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I bet that depends on the individual laptop, for many you would at least have to buy an adapter. PCs have their advantages over consoles and consoles have their advantages over PCs. PCs are more flexible - they can do just about anything with the right hardware and software. This is also their weakness. PCs are not standardized like consoles are. PCs are not guaranteed to work with every bit of software out there. Consoles are. So basically it comes down to the individual, and what they want. In an Ideal world I would have both. But my PC is lacking, a lot. just my 2 cents about consoles vs. PCs.

No. sloth is always right!

*pouts*

Originally Posted by sloth

No. sloth is always right!

*pouts*
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Aww.

*tosses Sloth a Baby Ruth*

I am still getting the ps3 even though their are bad things to consider