Hell yeah. The Roots are the Shit. 8)
Black Thought is one of my most favorite lyricists alive. You can seriously get lost in some of the pictures he paints with his words. Good Shit.
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Hell yeah. The Roots are the Shit. 8)
Black Thought is one of my most favorite lyricists alive. You can seriously get lost in some of the pictures he paints with his words. Good Shit.
Very cool.Quote:
Originally posted by Levi1057
Buck 65 ... thats all i got...
I'm a big Gorillaz fan too.
I used to hate rap with about as much passion as I disliked country music. Luckily I got introduced to some pretty good artists like Jurasic 5, The Roots, and Canibus. I haven't seen anyone mention that they have heard Canibus but if you haven't, do yourself a favor and check it out. He is probably one of the best and most intellectual rap artists that I have ever heard. I haven't heard a whole lot of rap from many artists but of all the stuff I have ever heard whether it be in a friend's car who likes rap or out at the club, nothing comes close to what this guy is capable of.
You know, I'll be honest: It took me a little while to get into Canibus, but I think it is because of that fact that, when I'd first started hearing him rap, it was back when I wasn't as aware of the better hip-hop artists as I am now. I couldn't get passed his voice, to tell you the truth. Lol. But I give him more respect now that I've heard from better artists, and I've actually had the attention span to sit down and listen to his words. Canibus is very tight. Very tight. I've got some of his freestyles and he is, without a doubt, one of the most talented lyricists out there.
Jurassic 5s " A Day At the Races" might be my favorite rap. It flows so well over
the bass line. The whole "Power in Numbers" album is great. I saw them about
3 years ago. Too big a venue , I thought. Would prefer seeing them in a more intimate
setting.
I don't really like rap. Mabye its good for a party, but after a while its just....annoying..........Eminem is good though. The rest of it....same old trash.
Wow. Oneironaut ? Want I should ring the school bell ?Quote:
Originally posted by eyeofgames
I don't really like rap. Mabye its good for a party, but after a while its just....annoying..........Eminem is good though. The rest of it....same old trash.
LMFAO. Please do.Quote:
Originally posted by R.Carter
Wow. Oneironaut ? Want I should ring the school bell ?
Maybe then eyeofgames can clue us in on the vast number of artists he knows of, knows songs titles of, and lyrics he's taken the time to listen to, which would help us further understand his knowledge of "The Rest of It." :roll:
Ding!Ding! Folks. Schools In session.
Your teacher this semester will be Oneironaut. Mr. Oneironaut to you, eyeofgames.
I am not sure if this counts but I am into Rage Against the Machine. They are really the only rap I listen to if they are considered rap. They are pretty sweet and Tom Morello (their guitarist) is amazing, he can make such weird noises with his guitar (no samples or synths are used to make the sounds)
I consider Rage a Rap/Rock hybrid. It definitely counts, to me. You can't underplay their lead's rap medium, so it definitely falls into that category. The good thing about that, is that it just goes to show that rapping doesn't define what a song is About (Money, bitches, gansta livin, or "Trash" as people call it) it is a way of expressing whatever is on your mind, which the lead singer of Rage did damn well. People like to try not to look at what he was doing as rapping, because he was in a rock group, but he's a rapper, no more no less, and damn good at it. That's why Rage is one of my favorite groups. They give rap a good name, and help display what it is really about, not what mainstream heads only Perceive it to be.
...But I'm not calling any names, here. >.> -cough-cough-
Yeah, no s***. It's like people don't bother to read the previous posts and open their minds enough to think "hey, this guys sounds like he knows what he's talking about, maybe I'll listen to some of the stuff he's mentioned and see what I think of it."Quote:
Originally posted by Oneironaut
LMFAO. Please do.
Maybe then eyeofgames can clue us in on the vast number of artists he knows of, knows songs titles of, and lyrics he's taken the time to listen to, which would help us further understand his knowledge of \"The Rest of It.\" :roll:
PEOPLE! If all you ever hear is 50 cent, then you have no concept of what rap music is!!!!!!!
You know, I've posted on like 4 other posts about rap music where people come on with the "I obviously don't understand rap but I hate it" attitude, and I even though I do my best to drop names of good, more underground artists, I don't think ONE person has done that, Kichu. Many will just avoid the thread from here on and continue thinking the same way they already do. :(Quote:
Originally posted by kichu
Yeah, no s***. It's like people don't bother to read the previous posts and open their minds enough to think \"hey, this guys sounds like he knows what he's talking about, maybe I'll listen to some of the stuff he's mentioned and see what I think of it.\"
guilty :lol:Quote:
Originally posted by Oneironaut
Many will just avoid the thread from here on and continue thinking the same way they already do. :(
Music is such a personal experience, that I really think changing someones opinion on a type of music is impossible
I, for instance, have to discover things on my own
if someone says to me
"you've got to check out this rock band, they're really good"
more often than not, I won't
My own prejudices kick in
"Bah, rock is a black music form bastardised by the whites, most people think elvis invented it for christ's sake - morons"
The band might be the best thing since sliced bread, but I still won't listen to them
However, it's a completely different story if I discover new music on my own.
Really? I understand that it's a great thing when you discover something on your own and a lot of the time I like to do things myself, my way. But I also keep my mind open to the fact that I'm not the only one who has an idea of what's worth spending time on and what's not. Think about when you've discovered something amazing and you want to share it with other people because you know it would be well worth it for your friends or whoever to know about it and appreciate it (music, food, etc). But if their first response is always, "no, I don't want to listen because I didn't discover it on my own," that would piss me off. It just doesn't make sense.Quote:
Originally posted by Ynot+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ynot)</div>Quote:
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guilty :lol:Quote:
Many will just avoid the thread from here on and continue thinking the same way they already do. :(
Music is such a personal experience, that I really think changing someones opinion on a type of music is impossible
I, for instance, have to discover things on my own
if someone says to me
\"you've got to check out this rock band, they're really good\"
more often than not, I won't
My own prejudices kick in
\"Bah, rock is a black music form bastardised by the whites, most people think elvis invented it for christ's sake - morons\"
The band might be the best thing since sliced bread, but I still won't listen to them
However, it's a completely different story if I discover new music on my own.[/b]
I don't think there's anything wrong with listening to suggestions from people. You can let someone give you an idea and then you can do the research yourself and decide for yourself why you do or don't like it. You don't have to let anyone else be involved if you don't want and then it truly has become your opinion, decision etc. Just because they guided you into it shouldn't taint the experience.
And although music is a personal experience, I completely disagree that changing someone's opinion of music is impossible. It just depends on who you're talking to. I often find that if I hate an artist or song, and a friend loves them and explains to me why they love the song, artist I can often see or hear what they're seeing or hearing. If we listent to the track together and they explain the great parts and they're really into it, I can pretty much guarantee that 99% of the time I will get what they're talking about and change my opinion.
Their's so much great music out there, it would be impossible for you to know all the music worth listening to. You just have to change your perspective. And it's well worth it too. I'd hate to show up at a club that was playing salsa music or something and be that person sitting on the side saying I'm not really into this music. I want to be able to switch gears and be like, "yeah, tonight I love salsa music and I'm dancing my ass off."
Life is too short to limit the experience of beautiful things like music.
THE END :wink:
Guess I'm just stubborn :lol:
Very nicely said. :goodjob2:Quote:
Originally posted by kichu
Really? *I understand that it's a great thing when you discover something on your own and a lot of the time I like to do things myself, my way. *But I also keep my mind open to the fact that I'm not the only one who has an idea of what's worth spending time on and what's not. *Think about when you've discovered something amazing and you want to share it with other people because you know it would be well worth it for your friends or whoever to know about it and appreciate it (music, food, etc). *But if their first response is always, \"no, I don't want to listen because I didn't discover it on my own,\" that would piss me off. *It just doesn't make sense. *
I don't think there's anything wrong with listening to suggestions from people. *You can let *someone give you an idea and then you can do the research yourself and decide for yourself why you do or don't *like it. *You don't have to let anyone else be involved if you don't want and then it truly has become your opinion, decision etc. *Just because they guided you into it shouldn't taint the experience. *
And although music is a personal experience, I completely disagree that changing someone's opinion of music is impossible. *It just depends on who you're talking to. *I often find that if I hate an artist or song, and a friend loves them and explains to me why they love the song, artist I can often see or hear what they're seeing or hearing. *If we listent to the track together and they explain the great parts and they're really into it, I can pretty much guarantee that 99% of the time I will get what they're talking about and change my opinion.
Their's so much great music out there, it would be impossible for you to know all the music worth listening to. *You just have to change your perspective. *And it's well worth it too. *I'd hate to show up at a club that was playing salsa music or something and be that person sitting on the side saying I'm not really into this music. *I want to be able to switch gears and be like, \"yeah, tonight I love salsa music and I'm dancing my ass off.\"
Life is too short to limit the experience of beautiful things like music.
THE END * :wink:
Bad Tony. Bad Bad Tony. lol
Anyway, changing peoples' minds about music is far from impossible, it's something I almost consider a hobby. 8) And, Ynot, for someone who seems so well versed as you do, I'm surprised you aren't more open to experiencing more (possibly better) music through people who may know many of the great artists that you don't. I think it'd be pretty bad to let your pride of wanting to find it on your own keep you away from discovering those who you might come to consider the greatest artists you've ever heard, just because someone introduced them to you.
...I dunno...maybe it makes since to you, somehow, so don't t hink I'm bashing you for it. To each his own.
Well......
maybe hours and hours spent riffling through musty record crates in dark basements in seedy back alleys in the depths of suburban cities has tainted my views :lol:
rap and its messages to younger generations and its affiliation to gangs has put a demise to urban growth. Among other things! JMO
:barf:
That is not the extent of rap.Quote:
Originally posted by Howetzer
rap and its messages to younger generations and its affiliation to gangs has put a demise to urban growth. Among other things! *JMO
:barf:
Bare with the analogy but that is like saying "all video games are for kids, and we should ban the video games that portray violence and adult subject matter" like so many of the parents out there that are clueless of the entire World of "Just For Adults" games and that they are rated as clearly as movies.
Hip Hop (True Hip Hop, not the Gangsta shit with a corporate beat that pop-culture knows of as Hip Hop) is the other side of the spectrum. I hope you take the time to look into some of those artists, and contrast them to what You already know of as rap, before you pass judgement on every piece of spoken word over a beat as the Rap you're referring to.
If you're seriously interested on finding out you might actually be Wrong, I can post some more artists and tracks you might want to give a shot.
But that's Your call. :wink:
Rap isn't music
or it depends what your rapping about
today all people rap about is sex, drugs, gang.
if your rap about something else like a lost loved one or w/e /saddness
i can understand that.
That's a Lie.Quote:
Originally posted by dreamcatcher05
Rap isn't *music
today all people rap about is sex, drugs, gang.
For the love of God, are you f'king people even paying attention? :|
ah, give it up Oneironaut
everyone knows rap is a load of bollocks
listen to some decent stuff :lol:
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No Oneironaut. I was indeed generalizing. But this is what is popular right now. This is what I hear on the radio and see on the TV. I am sure there are many artists that have a better message.
I am into the grunge scene. So saying Alice in Chains, Nirvana and such portrays a good message (Do drugs until you overdose) is, in my case being hypocritical.
oh for god's sake
that's like saying action films are bad cause they encourage people to go out and shoot other people
it's a film - it's meant to be entertaining
No Oneironaut. I was indeed generalizing. But this is what is popular right now. This is what I hear on the radio and see on the TV. I am sure there are many artists that have a better message.Quote:
Originally posted by Oneironaut
That is not the extent of rap.
Bare with the analogy but that is like saying \"all video games are for kids, and we should ban the video games that portray violence and adult subject matter\" like so many of the parents out there that are clueless of the entire World of \"Just For Adults\" games and that they are rated as clearly as movies.
Hip Hop (True Hip Hop, not the Gangsta shit with a corporate beat that pop-culture knows of as Hip Hop) is the other side of the spectrum. I hope you take the time to look into some of those artists, and contrast them to what You already know of as rap, before you pass judgement on every piece of spoken word over a beat as the Rap you're referring to.
If you're seriously interested on finding out you might actually be Wrong, I can post some more artists and tracks you might want to give a shot.
But that's Your call. :wink:
I am into the grunge scene. So saying Alice in Chains, Nirvana and such portrays a good message (Do drugs until you overdose) is, in my case being hypocritical.