(Newbie) Group DJ

[Katrisa]

NOTE: This is really very rough at the moment, but I expect to clean up as we go on(: Purpose of this journal: To record dreams of our "members" (not really established yet) To discuss possible meanings of the dreams To share the experience of learning to LD To have a support group os sorts to keep us motivated Format: We should keep our format pretty constant to keep from clutter. If your post is not a reply (aka. a journal, question, etc.) label it as such in the space provided. To report on a dream- Use this! http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=91993 Rules: Make sure you've somehow contacted me before posting (through a message or post) Be respectful when commenting Well, that's all! Have fun!

[morbid73]

19.02.2010 Bananas at the Bahamas (DILD) NON-DREAM DREAM LUCID It was weird, I was in a yatch, but it has many passengers, like it was a public transportation. I was sitting in one of the chairs, talking to some people I don't know, probably talking and differentiating the "public" yatch with the normal ones (I don't exactly remember all the details about the conversation). There it goes! The engine has finally started. As I was looking back to the shore, I noticed a very unrealistic scene: the banana trees were taller and bigger than the coconut trees! I'm dreaming I said, as I look at the waves and notice the bunch of dolphins splashing water to us. It was a wonderful sight, and my mind's telling me I'm in the Bahamas region. There was this guy, beside me constantly glancing at me once in a while. I glanced at him as well, but I never knew that person. As he continues to glance at me most of the time, I looked back again and saw my friend who, in real life, is in Dubai. I'm definitely dreaming, I said. I talked to him, but to my disgust, his face slowly turned blur. I decided to stabilize it by rubbing my hands, but ended up waking up because I was too excited to prolong the dream. That's my latest LD. How about a format like that? DreamJournal 2.5 will do the formatting after you recorded your dream. Check it out here.

[bijan588]

19.02.2010 Implant (Non-lucid) NON-DREAM DREAM LUCID So i was in my house and this guy came in and tryed to give me a freeimplant to stop my ADHD. My parents said go for it, and they held me down while he implanted a divice in my thought. This divice came with a remote to shock and stun me. So i went into the bathroom took out the stichs and tryed to yank out the implant. But i woke up after this point

[BlueRiot]

I guess I'll kick this thing off with the first real post , if the below background info is out of line for how these DJ's work let me know, I am very new When I was young (6-10) I remember having bad dreams about my parents dying, My mom (alternative spirit that she is) taught me how to control my dreams and after a while I got to the point where I had continuity in the storylines and were pretty damn amazing. And then I just stopped and kinda forgot about it and stopped remembering my dreams for the next 15 years. After stumbling sort-of randomly onto these boards I suddenly remembered the whole experiance (I have very few memories of my childhood that I can recall now). WILD Attempts So yesterday afternoon was my first attempt to WILD, I laid down on the couch in the livingroom and closed my eyes, focusing on my breathing. On every inhale I count the breath mentally, and on every exhale I think repeatedly "I will remember my dreams". From a rational standpoint I understand what the Wild attempts to induce, essentially tricking your body into thinking its asleep while you keep your mind from shutting off its reasoning ability. I had trouble keeping the count accurate, my mind wandered pretty badly until I hit about 50 (counting one.... two.... uh... what count was I on? Seven.... Eight... etc.) At around 50 breaths (i'd put it at approx 5 minutes) My extremities started to tingle a little, as if they were all asleep but I didn't feel compelled to shift. I felt a lightness come to my body, and my immediate reaction was to open my eyes. I woke for real ( reality checked the dog *thinks: You can talk, this is my dream and I command you to talk to me*) and went on with my day. Second attempt was bedtime, I share a bed with my wife and the room with two big snoring dogs. I don't really have trouble getting to sleep but I think the distracting nature of the arrangement isn't doing me any favors re: concentration - Most of my attempts will likely need to take place during the day, DILD (once I get decent recall back because mine sucks), or early in the morning. I lay in bed at around 10:30pm, I had been anxious to get to bed all evening. Going back through the WILD process again after maybe 70 breaths I was able (for the first time in years) to visualize a mansion and actually see it with my eyes closed. It wasn't in color, but rather in shades of grey drawn with colored pencils. With a little bit of focus I was able to rotate it slowly, but at that point my wife scooted against me a little bit and I lost my concentration. Tried for a further half hour but was unable to get it back. K = My wife. K had work this morning at 7am which means she had to get up at around 5:20am - I had her wake me up hoping to catch myself mid-REM cycle, no such luck - I was unable to remember any of my dreams. After that I made another attempt to WILD as I was still pretty sleepy and it was still dark. Never got far into this attempt because I kept getting uncomfortable in how I was laying and had to shift every couple of minutes. Questions: For unsuccessful attempts should I be color coding? I didn't see this being against the rules to talk about so correct me if I missed it, I'm a medical cannabis user - Does this have any negative impacts on the process?

[Katrisa]

No need to color code, and I changed that bit btw(:

[Katrisa]

I haven't been able to remember my dreams for a while now, but I woke up this morning in almost, a transparent fog. It clung to me for the better part of an hour, making everything seem more pink than it was, haha. I hop my eyes aren't screwed up!

[Katrisa]

Good idea In regards to the dream- What made you lucid?

[Katrisa]

bijan- Ew, sounds nasty. Glad it was a short one!

[DreamThief]

Non Lucid Dream I was at my moms place with an aquaintance who I barely know, and we had to fix my moms fence..I remember carrying 2 big sheets of ply-wood and a bucket of nails. As we made it over towards the fence, the dream shifted and we ended up at his house instead...The place was amazing, it was nestled in this incredible canyon surrounded by watterfalls and large rock formations. It was sort of odd, they suggested I had a shower..at first I said "no thats ok I dont really need one" but they insisted so to be polite I just went ahead with it. The bathroom was odd aswell, instead of a door there was this long curtain, probably a good 20 feet, but it didnt quite block the whole enterance so you could still see in. I dont actually rememeber having the shower though so im not sure what happened there. The next thing I rememeber I was in my car driving along some curvey roads, my dog was with me. we stopped...I guess to take her for a walk, we went into the forrest and stopped by a lake. When we decided to leave I noticed this flat screen TV on a tree next to us...then I noticed a house just through the trees to my right....needless to say I was kinda freaking out so we bolted back to the car and went back to the house I was at before. Things had changed though. There seemed to be a dark over tone with everything...people looked at me wierd and made kind of freaky remarks, so I jumped in my car and took off This wasnt a full nightmare..but it seemed to be heading that way.

[Katrisa]

DreamThief- What's it with bad dreams last night? Kinda an odd one though :/

[bijan588]

Once again i got scared partway into my wild

[morbid73]

Yeah, especially the SP part. The other night, although it was very scary, but I was amazed by my SP experience. At first, there were blue colors swirling back and forth, disappearing alternatively. The scary part: there was a figure of a human in front of me, it was like a silhouette and I can't even distinguish if it was really human or not. Then, another one appeared, this time, they were talking. Lastly, I felt like my body is being carried away. I was disappointed that I didn't sink into a dream, despite realizing that I'm near to dreaming. It was like my mind is disconnecting from my body, and I felt heavy, sinking into my bed.

[goldenpig]

The scary part: there was a figure of a human in front of me, it was like a silhouette and I can't even distinguish if it was really human or not. Then, another one appeared, this time, they were talking. Lastly, I felt like my body is being carried away. man, id fill my pants if two shadowy creatures started carrying me away.

[Katrisa]

Yeah, especially the SP part. there was a figure of a human in front of me, it was like a silhouette and I can't even distinguish if it was really human or not. Apparently, this is really common with sleep paralysis. When I get SP (so far only induced once) I tend to stay fairly connected with the waking world, so no shadowy figures for me! But when I was first researching SP, that seems to be a very common experience, so don't worry(:

[Katrisa]

It was around 6am when I tried. I stayed pretty normal, just relaxed, until there was a really cold spot on my thigh. It felt pressured too, as if something had stabbed me in the thigh. It felt like pain, but without the pain part if that makes sense. You know, that cold, uncomfortable, adrenaline-packed feeling? Well, it was slightly terrifying, as the cold and pressure began to spread down my leg. I tried to stay calm, but I guess I got myself to hyped up to continue.

[BlueRiot]

Went to bed last night at around 10pm and tried for about a half hour to WILD at bedtime, got to SP but K rolled and I was unable to continue. K woke me up at 3:30, I gave the reality check word (corn) andI promptly fell asleep. Woke up this morning at approx. 8am, lay in bed for a half hour but could not remember any dreams. 1:30pm K went to work and I had nothing to do for the rest of the day, I pulled up the ultimate lucid dream induction mp3 and got back into bed. I was able to get to SP pretty quickly and felt the vibrations travel up and down my body, my nose itched but I ignored it. I opened my mouth (normally a nose breather) and took several slow deep breaths... If you havn't tried that you really need to, it felt like my chest could expand forever, I had no feeling of limitation in any way. After a while I got into HHs and at one point I was able to expand the loose "sense" of an item into my parents kitchen, I kinda looked at it passively for a few seconds and then felt like I was poking my head through a window and into the HH, unfortunately I was unable to fully transition and the more detailed image collapsed back to the abstract. I spend the next hour or so just sorta lying there in stasis trying different techniques to get myself over the gap, I tried the "roll over" technique per Yoshu, Reverse Blinking, mantras... Nothing really seemed to get me there. Any other techniques I should try? I'll be doing WBTB at 3:30am PST this time coming out to the couch for the attempt.

[morbid73]

Apparently, this is really common with sleep paralysis. When I get SP (so far only induced once) I tend to stay fairly connected with the waking world, so no shadowy figures for me! But when I was first researching SP, that seems to be a very common experience, so don't worry(: In fact I'm not worrying, I always feel excited when I think about it. From the part when my body sinks, up to the part like my body is being carried away.

[morbid73]

@Blueriot - If everytime you attempt WILD and you don't succeed, you can do DILD. Just be sure that before you fall asleep, your thoughts are about LDing. Listening to that mp3 (I also listen to that same mp3), mantras will surely take effect. Remember that voice of the woman in the mp3, saying "You are dreaming?" It always feel amazing that when I'm already in my dream, I always hear that voice, reminding me that I'm dreaming.

[AccountableMasses]

Went to bed late last night. Was dreaming I was at the computer, listening to my recording of summertime by porgy and bess, typing into my dream journal. Someone contacted about my video and said something about it. When I woke up to do this, I realized I just had a dream about typing it in the entry!

[Katrisa]

AccountableMasses- Haha, I've had dreams where I'm talking about my dream in my dream (though I still don't realize I'm lucid)

[ellwilll]

first LD... about a week back LUCID NON i was sitting in a park when i pinched my nose... i couldnt breathe but i realised it was a dream.i got overexcited and span around taking in the beautifull scnery of the park.i tried to order a gun to my hands to shoot a squirrel but as i closed my eyes to concentrate... i opened them to the real world...

[BlueRiot]

Went to sleep last night around 9:30 with K, she usually wakes up a few times during the night so I asked her to wake me up around 3:30 - went to sleep listening to ZBS's Jack Flanders's Return to Inverness last night... Random Aside: ZBS media is a nonprofit that essentially creates and records high quality radio dramas in the style of the old fashion detective serials, etc. except it also delves into philosophy, astral projection, alternate universes, etc. - If you're into something different its def worth a try, although I would recommend starting with "The Fourth Tower of Inverness" if you're interested in more philosophy/metaphysical travel, or The Incredible Adventures of Jack Flanders which is more fantasy based, but definitely still fun for adults. Ok back to the evening. We went to sleep, and K woke me up around 2am - I wandered out to the couch and tried to WBTB but couldn't get comfortable, every time I got into the groove I either got too cold or too hot (couch was too close to the fire so my feet get roasted) I went back to bed around 3am totally awake, K was too so we medicated, got something to eat, and went back to sleep at around 4am. I actually had a dream at this point although it was incredibly brief, but considering it's been about a year since I last remember dreaming I'll take it as a sign of improvement. Content was sorta R , first time I've had a sex dream in at least 3 years. I woke up quickly afterward and focused on committing it to memory since I didn't want to turn on the light to write, seems to have actually worked. This morning I attempted to WBTB in the morning, K got up to handle the animals so I could stay in bed. Kept getting itch attacks every half hour or so, I resisted the first time for at least 20 minutes but it kept getting more intense and I gave in to scratch my nose. K has work again today and I really have very little to do so I may attempt another mid-afternoon WILD today. Oh, I forgot to mention - I started 250mg of powdered (as close as I could get it after some time in the dehydrator) silene capensis the "african dream root". This morning was my second day of taking that in about 4oz of water, taken before breakfast. There is some thought that it may act as a MAOI inhibitor, by decreasing the bodies ability to process the DMT we produce as we sleep, with the slower rate of DMT degradation it would amplify the intensity and memorability of dreams significantly, most people report effect after about 3 days of ingestion, so day after tomorrow might be unusual. Despite that being some basic guesswork I will be restricting myself to a MAOI-OK diet as that can be fairly dangerous. Thats me for last night, a little disappointed that my results were so minimal again but looking forward to the SC kicking in, and glad I at least remember some sort of dream even with how rudimentary and brief it was.

[BlueRiot]

@Blueriot - If everytime you attempt WILD and you don't succeed, you can do DILD. Just be sure that before you fall asleep, your thoughts are about LDing. Listening to that mp3 (I also listen to that same mp3), mantras will surely take effect. Remember that voice of the woman in the mp3, saying "You are dreaming?" It always feel amazing that when I'm already in my dream, I always hear that voice, reminding me that I'm dreaming. My main issue is that my dream recall is pretty non-existant so I don't even know if I've been in a situation where I can be kicked into an LD state. I'm hoping that the Silene Capensis will kickstart my recall by providing a vivid experiance that will be easy to remember so I have something strong to build off of.

[morbid73]

Well, the most important thing you should have is enough sleep. A week ago, I started by having a regular sleep, since I was a very late sleeper and always wake up early. For a week, I maintained a regular sleep schedule without even attempting to have a LD. I've had have dreams which were vivid, but kept it in my dj rather than posting it here

[AccountableMasses]

Went to bed around 1230 AM this morning. Had a dream of the ancient Incas or Mayans playing that hip ball game that National Geographic would talk about on TV. Was watching them play this but they were playing it in hawaii, going tak a teya tak a teya tak a teya. Then I woke up around four am and entered it into my dream journal.