Thread: Caradon's Dream Journal

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

Just once or twice, I think. I don't usually think of it.

I think people who play video games have a huge advantage when it comes to stuff like that, because they think of it a lot more often. It seems more natural to do things like that.

Too bad the gamer on this thread can't get lucid to try out throwing fireballs or flying or eating a thousand pancakes...WHY CAN'T I GET LUCID!!! Oh well. Everyone has a dryspell, and every dryspell has an end...usually a great one. What was your longest dryspell Caradon.

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

Just once or twice, I think. I don't usually think of it.

I think people who play video games have a huge advantage when it comes to stuff like that, because they think of it a lot more often. It seems more natural to do things like that.

Your right. One of the other things that really got me fascinated with being able to throw fire. Was the movie "Fire Starter." And more recently pyro on the X-Men. I have to remember to practice playing with fire one of these times.

Originally Posted by Shinjiro-yan

Too bad the gamer on this thread can't get lucid to try out throwing fireballs or flying or eating a thousand pancakes...WHY CAN'T I GET LUCID!!! Oh well. Everyone has a dryspell, and every dryspell has an end...usually a great one. What was your longest dryspell Caradon.

Well aside from the few years I didn't Lucid dream at all. There were about four months of this year that were really slow for me. because of a really bad situation that came up. And took my dreaming away completely for a while. I can't believe how out of wack I let myself get this month. But I about got it back again. knock on wood.

Lucid Last night!

A Lucid Dream
Sunday/December/23/2007
Lucid Dream # 58 of 2007
Malfunctioning car dreamsign noticed
Reality check induced Lucidity

I'm driving along some two way road. It's kind of a country setting. A lot of open fields around, not to many houses. My car begins to veer to the left, into the oncoming lane. (In real life my alignment is off a little. And if I let go of the steering it will start veering to the left like that.) I turn the steering wheel to the right, But the car keeps going to the left. So I turn it more. I turn the steering wheel around and around to the right. But my car keeps going left! I finally give up, and let the car go all the way to the left, across the oncoming lane, off the road and into a field.

I stop the car and get out. Disgusted with my malfunctioning steering, I begin walking back to where ever it is I was coming from. I have my dog with me as well. As I'm walking I'm thinking about how that's just like something that would happen in my dreams. Purely out of habit, because I've been doing so many reality checks all week.
I reach up and pinch my nose. And I can breath!Totally unexpected, I really didn't think I was dreaming at all. I'm completely stunned by how real everything is. This does not feel like a dream. it's as real as real can get.(It's funny no matter how many Lucids I have. I never get over that. I'm always so stunned by the reality of it.)

I look down at the leash in my hand. And I look at my dog walking happily along, checking everything out. I think about setting her loose, But I'm a little reluctant even though I know it's a dream. I decide to try and levitate. But I can't do it. (Just like I described in Moonbeams journal. I'm having a hard time getting over how real it feels.)
I see a black trailer just sitting near by. I try to reach out with my mind and levitate that. But that's not working either. I get funny feeling, but thats about it.

I reach down and run my hand through the long weedy grass of the field. And I marvel at the coarse scratchy feel of it. I pinch my nose again to double check if I'm dreaming. Yup, definitely a dream! Since I'm having trouble levitating I try an old trick I used to do in the past. I jump into the air, and try to catch myself with my mind as I fall.
It works, and I hover cross legged a couple of feet above the ground for a little bit.

A little ways away, I can see what looks like a trailer home. And I see two girls, brunettes, walking towards it. I'm curious as to what it looks like inside the trailer home. So I set myself down and begin walking that way. I notice another girl a blond sitting in a chair outside. She is doing something with her hands. I don't remember what exactly. Maybe she has cards or something.

The first two girls walk by, and enter the trailer. I walk up to the blond in the chair, and I say."Hey, your pretty cute." She says,"yeah, no kidding, huh." She gets up and walks away.( I have the opposite problem as Moonbeam, DC's just walk away from me.) I follow her as she goes into the trailer. I decide to experiment more with pestering her. I ask her if she can give me a little strip show. She keeps walking away, but she says, "Oh I don't know." I keep following her, and trying to talk her into it.

After a little bit of encouraging, She starts responding. She starts moving kind of flirtatiously. And begins removing her cloths. Even as she is still walking away from me. We are walking through different rooms. Until we end up someplace that resembles a garage. She is nude now, and I ask if I can have sex with her. She climbs up onto a work bench and lays across it on her stomach. I put my hand on her back, near her shoulders. And slide my hand all the way down her body. And I wake up!

Barely even touched her and I woke up. It wasn't from excitement either. I was very calm. And was not even planning to try and have sex with her. This was more of an experiment to see what I could talk her into.

Be back to write a couple more things later. have to take care of something.

Originally Posted by Caradon

Purely out of habit, because I've been doing so many reality checks all week.
I reach up and pinch my nose. And I can breath!

That's so cool. It's so rare to do an RC before you know it's a dream.

Originally Posted by Caradon

She gets up and walks away.( I have the opposite problem as Moonbeam, DC's just walk away from me.)

Why can't they just cooperate?

Originally Posted by Caradon

Until we end up someplace that resembles a garage. She is nude now, and I ask if I can have sex with her. She climbs up onto a work bench and lays across it on her stomach. I put my hand on her back, near her shoulders. And slide my hand all the way down her body.

Go, Caradon, Go!

Originally Posted by Caradon

And I wake up!

...dammit! So close. But I see mark is having a good influence on you!

Originally Posted by Caradon

And was not even planning to try and have sex with her.

Oh no, we believe you.

That was different than your usual lucids, Caradon. Much less wild and crazy, physical extreme-dream stuff. No wild animals either. You made some progress with your DC's. Good job on the RC; it has really become a habit with you. I still fail at that a lot of times; very annoying.

Oooh, Sara is going to be all over this dream. I think she's a dream voyeur! (jk Sara). The realness of the dream sounds awesome. More than anything, I think that is the one desire that keeps me fascinated with and working towards lucidity. I've never experienced any dream to such a level and it is something I want to do.

I actually woke up disappointed with myself. For getting to distracted by the girl.

Yeah, this dream was pretty mellow. But, like always I went with the first thing that I thought would be interesting. I forgot that I wanted to talk to my dog In a Lucid. I missed a perfect opportunity for it.

raklet: maybe you want to try the B6 to help give you a more vivid clear dream. I pretty much stopped using it. I may do it once in a while though.
Your post about B6 in marks journal sounded kind of scary. And I fortunately already get very vivid dreams. Last nights Lucid was not a B6 dream.

Last nights WILd attempt
I enter a dream scene without Lucidity. I am at work, and a lady I work with is talking to me. I'm not paying attention to her because I'm distracted examining my environment, looking for any abnormalities/dreamsigns. I'm just about to do a reality check when I wake up.

the reality check at that stage of sleep would have just woke me up anyway.

I had really bad recall all night. I woke up at nine in the morning with no recall. I kept falling asleep before I could take notes. I think I was just to tired. My nap was pretty short Sunday. I spent half an hour trying to bring any recall back. I managed about five fragments. I had some really fun dreams too. just could not quite bring them back. Then went back to sleep. I figured with my mind awake now. I would at least get some good recall. I feel pretty Lucky that not only did I get some recall. but I got Lucid besides.

Saturday night
at one point I did a random reality check and became Lucid. But, I can't remember anything beyond the point where I became Lucid and looked around at everything.

Later, I was running on a wall. I notice the way some trees look. And I say out loud."hey those look like dream trees!" But I forget to do a reality check. And I got distracted by the wall falling over lol. The trees had extra thick trunks and branches.
Unlike anything in my part of the world. And the branches were all at odd angles.

Hey, dammit, I missed this dream!

Originally Posted by raklet

Oooh, Sara is going to be all over this dream. I think she's a dream voyeur!

Originally Posted by Caradon

And if I let go of the steering it will start veering to the left like that.) I turn the steering wheel to the right, But the car keeps going to the left. So I turn it more. I turn the steering wheel around and around to the right. But my car keeps going left! I finally give up, and let the car go all the way to the left, across the oncoming lane, off the road and into a field.

Oohh, uncontrolable cars... I hate those! Funny how your dream car was having the same malfunction as your RL car

Originally Posted by Caradon

As I'm walking I'm thinking about how that's just like something that would happen in my dreams. Purely out of habit, because I've been doing so many reality checks all week.
I reach up and pinch my nose. And I can breath!Totally unexpected, I really didn't think I was dreaming at all.

Ohh, that sounds so cool!

I'm completely stunned by how real everything is. This does not feel like a dream. it's as real as real can get.(It's funny no matter how many Lucids I have. I never get over that. I'm always so stunned by the reality of it.)

Hmm, do you think it has anything to do with the way you get lucid? I mean, you did a random RC and found out you were lucid. Do all your dreams feel real like that?

I decide to try and levitate. But I can't do it. (Just like I described in Moonbeams journal. I'm having a hard time getting over how real it feels.)
I see a black trailer just sitting near by. I try to reach out with my mind and levitate that. But that's not working either. I get funny feeling, but thats about it.
Since I'm having trouble levitating I try an old trick I used to do in the past. I jump into the air, and try to catch myself with my mind as I fall.
It works, and I hover cross legged a couple of feet above the ground for a little bit.

Hey, that's an awesome way to get yourself levitating! Thanks for the tip

When I try to fly, also in normal dreams now, it's like I'm lying on the ground on my belly, pushing myself forward on the ground with my hands or feet and first hover a few centimetres above the ground, gaining altitude very slowly.

The first two girls walk by, and enter the trailer. I walk up to the blond in the chair, and I say."Hey, your pretty cute." She says,"yeah, no kidding, huh."

Hahaha, that's a funny response

I ask her if she can give me a little strip show. She keeps walking away, but she says, "Oh I don't know." I keep following her, and trying to talk her into it.

Ahh, there comes the interesting part
Just kidding, I actually like flying dreams a lot more, Raklet!!

She climbs up onto a work bench and lays across it on her stomach. I put my hand on her back, near her shoulders. And slide my hand all the way down her body. And I wake up!

Owww, that is so annoying!
I can imagine you were angry at yourself.
Maybe it was just the dream ending, not necessarily because of excitement...

Originally Posted by Caradon

A Lucid Dream

man it must have been really freaky when the car started turning left and there was nothing you could do about it

ha ha ha that lucid was great lol sounds like my kind of thing but it was also great for their responses especially this

Originally Posted by Caradon

"Hey, your pretty cute." She says,"yeah, no kidding, huh." She gets up and walks away.( I have the opposite problem as Moonbeam, DC's just walk away from me.) I follow her as she goes into the trailer. I decide to experiment more with pestering her. I ask her if she can give me a little strip show. She keeps walking away, but she says, "Oh I don't know." I keep following her, and trying to talk her into it.
.

shame you woke up! could have been fun although those lucid dreams are hard to stay in

Originally Posted by raklet

Oooh, Sara is going to be all over this dream. I think she's a dream voyeur! (jk Sara).

lol raklet your a genius lol

Two short Lucids last night
Monday/December/24/2007/
Lucid Dream # 59 of 2007
Random reality check induced Lucidity
this is the first dream of the night

The first thing I remember is that I'm with some Oriental kid named yung. I'm not even sure how I know his name but I do. He is upset and looking for something. I don't know what it is he is looking for. It has to do with what ever was going on before my recall of the dream.

We are on this stair case, that ascends in a circular manner, from landing to landing.
it's not a spiral, it's more a square. The stair case is inside a tall building, and the outside wall near the stair case is made of glass. So that you can see the view of the land beyond. But at the moment, there is a thick fog that is obscuring the view, it's rather gloomy out the window.

We climb several levels, then stop. I'm trying to see the view through the fog, when I suddenly notice the fog has cleared and the sun is shinning. And the scene that has been displayed is just breath taking. There is a mountain and canyon landscape that stretches far to the horizon. There are patches of snow hear and there, in all the right places. Even though they are mountains. the spot that we are standing is like thousands of feet above them. I'm very emotionally moved by the vision. I look over at yung and say," wow, that's so beautiful my soul wants to weep!"

I notice that yung is still upset. I say to him, " did you notice how the fog cleared and the sun came out just as we came up here? Maybe it's some kind of sign meant to cheer you up?" Then I nudge him in the arm with my elbow and say,"Or maybe this is a dream, eh?" in a joking manner. "Well lets find out!" I reach up and pinch my nose, And I can breath!Lucid! I wish I could have seen the expression on my face at that moment. I'm sure my eyes went pretty wide."OMG, yung, this is a dream! I can breath through my nose!" I tell him to do a reality check. but he doesn't seem to need to. Now, There is no longer a glass wall separating us from the awsome landscape beyond the railing of the landing we are on. We are far above the mountain scene.
Yung looks over to me and calmly says,"I want to jump over that railing."

I think, that sounds like a wonderful idea."I'm all for that!" I reply. I then take a couple running steps, and leap head first with my hands out in front of me like a diver over the railing. My body passes about half way over the rail when I wake up.

Comments
That was even more frustrating than waking up from last nights Lucid. I was so looking forward to the flight over that scene.

Lucid dream # 60 of 2007
same night as above. Another random reality check.
Note: hours later, I'm dreaming about the above Lucid. And become Lucid again.

I'm now outside the same building as in the above dream. I'm on the left side of the building. But, I'm far enough to the front that I can see the glass wall of the front of the building. There is what seems like a couple miles of open flat land. which eventually runs into a wall of mountains.

There is somebody with me.(Not the same person as before.) I begin telling him about the dream I had about this place. I point up to the glass wall on the building. And tell him that I was on some observation deck up there. The DC says."Oh yeah, I've been up there before." We begin walking to the back side of the building, where there is a parking lot. As we walk, I continue to describe the dream from above. I am so emotionally moved by the memory of the mountain scene. That I'm nearly in tears describing it.

I then describe, how I reached up and pinched my nose as a reality check. And I actually do it as an example. And again I can breath!Lucid again! I tell the DC, "this is a dream!" I show him that I can breath through my nose. He doesn't seem to impressed. We are in the parking lot now. I jump up on the hood of one of the cars,
and do a back flip off of it. I tuck into a tight ball, then land on my feet perfectly. To the DC I say."See, I could never do that in real life."

Now he seems intrigued. I jump back up onto the hood of the car again and do another perfect back flip. The DC tries to do it, But he falls flat on his back. I laugh and jump onto the hood and do another back flip. I do it a couple of more times before waking up.

It's now nine thirty in the morning. I decide to try to sleep just a little longer hoping to get Lucid again. I lay there for a minute and enter a dream scene. I'm at work, and I'm compelled by the urge to do a reality check. I do and I can breath! But at that fragile stage of sleep, it just wakes me up.

I fall back to sleep, enter the same work scene. I look at my watch and it says 5:00 pm. No way, I should not be at work this late. I pinch my nose and I can breath!
but again it's to fragile a stage of sleep and it wakes me up. I'm just happy I had the presence of mind to do the reality checks. I gave up then and just got out of bed.

be back to reply to other comments in a little while.

Originally Posted by Caradon

Then I nudge him in the arm with my elbow and say,"Or maybe this is a dream, eh?" in a joking manner. "Well lets find out!" I reach up and pinch my nose, And I can breath!Lucid!

That is so cool, Caradon. You are going to be getting lucid in every dream soon. Do you do like 1000 RC's during the day? Is that your secret?

Originally Posted by Caradon

And again I can breath!Lucid again! I tell the DC, "this is a dream!"

There you go again! That's so cool how you went back to the same dream-place.

Originally Posted by Caradon

I jump up on the hood of one of the cars,

Originally Posted by Caradon

and do a back flip off of it. I tuck into a tight ball, then land on my feet perfectly. To the DC I say."See, I could never do that in real life."

Actually, this is perfect for Cusp's physical skill experiment. You need to try IRL and see if you could do it. I bet you could! (Do it over water first.)

Originally Posted by Caradon

The DC tries to do it, But he falls flat on his back.

Originally Posted by Caradon

I do and I can breath!

Again!

Originally Posted by Caradon

I pinch my nose and I can breath!

And again!

That has got to be the longest lucid-dream chain I've ever seen! It makes me feel like dancing too!

Thanks, Moonbeam. Yeah, I probably have been doing a thousand reality checks or more every day. And I try to acknowledge the fact that I have just done a reality check, and can't breath. Rather than just doing it without thinking about it. And I try to always keep my mind aware that I could be dreaming at any moment. And pay attention to everything that I'm doing.

I've also gotten back to setting the timer on my watch. I have it set to go off every five minutes now. when ever the timer goes off. I make a point to stop the beeping by pushing a button on it. That way I'm always fiddling with my watch. And hopefully it will enter my dreams more. And when the timer goes off. I make a point to tell myself that I'm doing a scheduled reality check. And when I do reality checks in between the five minutes, I tell myself that I have just done a random reality check.


I'm hoping that I can integrate a combination of using my watch, and a nose reality check together to make a really powerful technique.

And yeah, That would be cool if I could learn to do back flips from my dreams.
Once when I was a kid. after watching the road warrior. Because of watching a guy do a somersault in the air while running.
I spent an entire day out in the yard trying to do that.
Never managed it though. Just landed on my back every time.

Wow, I was just kidding about the 1000 RC's. I did as many as I could remember to do one day and it worked, so I can see how that would work really well.

Do you hear the watch beeping at night, too? I never could get anything like that to help me get lucid.

No I wear ear plugs at night. I'm hoping I will just dream about my watch beeping. And then remember to do a reality check because of it.

I did try setting it for a half hour after a WBTB last week. I went to sleep without my ear plugs. But like I thought the beeping just woke me up. I haven't tried it again.

Originally Posted by Sara

Hey, dammit, I missed this dream!





Oohh, uncontrolable cars... I hate those! Funny how your dream car was having the same malfunction as your RL car


Ohh, that sounds so cool!



Hmm, do you think it has anything to do with the way you get lucid? I mean, you did a random RC and found out you were lucid. Do all your dreams feel real like that?


Hey, that's an awesome way to get yourself levitating! Thanks for the tip

When I try to fly, also in normal dreams now, it's like I'm lying on the ground on my belly, pushing myself forward on the ground with my hands or feet and first hover a few centimetres above the ground, gaining altitude very slowly.


Hahaha, that's a funny response


Ahh, there comes the interesting part
Just kidding, I actually like flying dreams a lot more, Raklet!!


Owww, that is so annoying!
I can imagine you were angry at yourself.
Maybe it was just the dream ending, not necessarily because of excitement...

You didn't really miss this Lucid. I only posted it earlier in the same day. thanks for reading and commenting.

Yeah, my dreams do fell quite real. But, I'm so used to getting Lucid in crazy unreal situations, like flying.

Originally Posted by mark

man it must have been really freaky when the car started turning left and there was nothing you could do about it

ha ha ha that lucid was great lol sounds like my kind of thing but it was also great for their responses especially this


shame you woke up! could have been fun although those lucid dreams are hard to stay in



lol raklet your a genius lol

Yeah that sucked when my car did that. At least I Finally got Lucid from my car. that kind of thing happens all the time when I drive in my dreams.

Like Sara said, it probably was the end of the dream. there was other stuff that happened before I was driving my car. so I had already been in it for quite a while.

ah man! I agree that the ending of that first dream must have been very very annoying! shame about that like!


and that second dream! nice one on the back flips he he sounds fun mate

EDIT: oh thanks again for introducing me to Necroscope its really starting to influence my dreams I love it

Wow. Nice job with the lucids lately, Caradon!

I hate malfunctioning cars. My car seems to always wanna malfunction, in my dreams. And that sucks about finally getting that DC chick to comply, and then waking up, right before. I'd have been so pissed.

Great job on all of the lucids! That was fun. What kind of work do you do that you can have your watch beep every five minutes and do RC in between without people getting annoyed and thinking that you are weird? (remind self to follow Caradon's example and do more RCs)

Originally Posted by mark

ah man! I agree that the ending of that first dream must have been very very annoying! shame about that like!

and that second dream! nice one on the back flips he he sounds fun mate

EDIT: oh thanks again for introducing me to Necroscope its really starting to influence my dreams I love it

Thanks Mark. yeah that really sucked. that could have such an awsome moment. Oh well there is always next time!

Your welcome about the books. I'm glad you love them as much as I do!

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

Wow. Nice job with the lucids lately, Caradon!

I hate malfunctioning cars. My car seems to always wanna malfunction, in my dreams. And that sucks about finally getting that DC chick to comply, and then waking up, right before. I'd have been so pissed.

Thanks Oneironaut! hopefully I will start to notice that car dreamsign more often. I almost got Lucid from it a couple other times.

Originally Posted by raklet

Great job on all of the lucids! That was fun. What kind of work do you do that you can have your watch beep every five minutes and do RC in between without people getting annoyed and thinking that you are weird? (remind self to follow Caradon's example and do more RCs)

Thanks raklet! I actually turn the alarm off when I'm at work. I got tired of people asking me questions about it. But, when the alarm is off. I still watch the time close, and try to do scheduled reality checks every five minutes.
and random ones at every good opportunity. Have to turn it off in movie theaters too. The alarm is great for those times when your doing something distracting and you forget to pay attention.

Note: twice last night while sliding into hypnagogic imagery. I heard my watch alarm beeping in my mind. then reached up and did a reality check.
but, both times it woke me up as usual at that stage of sleep. On the right track though.

A Lucid Dream
Tuesday/December/25/2007
Lucid Dream # 61 of 2007
Random reality check induced Lucidity

This is the most boring Lucid I ever had lol. I pretty much wasted it.

I must have had some kind of false awakening, where I got up and went to the bathroom. because the first thing I remember is walking back to my bed through the dark gloom of the house. I do a reality check and I can breath.I'm strangely confused and kind of disoriented though. because I'm not used to getting Lucid during false awakenings. Or, in such a familiar setting as my own house. I keep thinking that I have woke up. or about to wake up. So I keep doing reality checks. And I'm like nope didn't wake up yet. I actually sit down on the edge of my bed and wait to wake up. every few seconds I think maybe I'm awake now. So I do a reality check to see. But, nope I'm still dreaming. slowly it dawns on me, that I'm not going to wake up right away, and that I should actually do something rather than just sit here waiting to wake up. So I decide I should go outside and find something to do. So I get up and start to get ready to go outside. I start getting dressed and putting my shoes on lol.
Who cares about that stuff in a dream. I think I may have lost Lucidity and went into another dream. Because after that I remember something about being on a cruise ship. I'm not sure if I woke up in between or not.

Then later, I have a bag of marijuana. And I'm sitting there cleaning the seeds out, and rolling joints. My sister comes up to me and tells me she is watching some horror movie. And that a guy in the movie was doing reality checks when some monster was attacking him. But, unfortunately for him. he was not dreaming. And the monster got him.

Originally Posted by Caradon

I do a reality check and I can breath.

Every time I come in here, there is another RC where you can breathe! Caradon, I've got to start doing 1000 RC's per day too! Starting tomorrow! No, now, I can fit in maybe 100 or so!

Originally Posted by Caradon

I start getting dressed and putting my shoes on lol.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000080]Who cares about that stuff in a dream.[COLOR=black]

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

Every time I come in here, there is another RC where you can breathe! Caradon, I've got to start doing 1000 RC's per day too! Starting tomorrow! No, now, I can fit in maybe 100 or so!

yeah, it's such a small effort to to reach up and pinch my nose. no reason not to do it all the time. I'm startng to care less and less about people seeing me do it as well. I try to be somewhat discrete about it when people are around. especially at work. But I don't really worry about it much. I would hate to be in a dream and be afraid of doing a RC because of people seeing me. the funny looks are well worth the results.

Originally Posted by raklet

What can I say? Must have been low level lucidity!

noooo stupid phone
I typed a long reply and then it was lost

Well, congrats on the series of lucids, caradon!

Your reply to moonbeam made me smile, I didn't expect you actually doing that many RCs! But you inspired me to try it for a while!

Love the description of that scenery, would have been amazing to fly over it! I'm sure you'll be able to accomplish that in one of your next lucids.


Hahaha, laughing out loud in the train (people looked at me :shame for that part where you tried to convince you DC that you/he was dreaming

And about the part where you just sat on your bed, waiting to wake up.
Actually, I think it's very good progress if you can just sit down and think about what's going on... instead of getting tunnel vision and hurry up to accomplish a task...

(saved a copy and try 1 more time to see if my phone still works...)

Originally Posted by Sara

noooo stupid phone
I typed a long reply and then it was lost

I'm so jealous of people who have those phones, so I'm glad you said that. I know I would do that all the time (lose posts), and I get so mad when I lose a post.

Originally Posted by Sara

Your reply to moonbeam made me smile, I didn't expect you actually doing that many RCs! But you inspired me to try it for a while!

I know I was laughing too, because I was just joking! But it must work!