Dreams Of Ranma187

I'm a practitioner of the Dreaming method as outlined in the Carlos Castaneda book "The art of dreaming"

I come here, of course, to add any technique to help me along.

LD experiences so far are short.

Here is the Gate of dreaming that i have been drilling for a month or so:

1. to find your hands in your dreams. when you can succesfully look at your hands, look around at other objects briefly in a systematic matter to prevent the dream from changing.

2 to gain lucidity you must intend to notice yourself fall asleep. you accomplish this without a single thought it is more like a bodily sense.

Finding your hands is arriving at the gate. To cross the gate requires 2 things to be accomplished: A. you must be able to view any object in your dreaming without it changing.. to do this means you have acquired Dreaming attention. Dreaming attention gives off Energy that attracts dreaming creatures which you can turn into a dreaming Ally (or dream guide). another byproduct (which varies from person to person) is a voice that also can assist in your dreaming called The dreaming Emissary. so B: The gate is crossed when you succesfully get an Ally.

So far i have found my hands at least Thrice. They are usually not mine. either bigger or smaller or more hairy than mine.

When my LDing was almost taking off. i could view certain objects without them changing. but what keeps happening is that i get swept away buy the circumstance of the dream and it becomes a regular dream.. the few times i have looked at the objects of my dream, i sometimes here a Nagging voice telling me to look at specific objects. One time i heard a voice trying to tell me things but it was so distorted that i did not understand what it was trying to say.

i've noticed other dreams that don't feel like dreams. they are brief instances that happen during dreaming but feel so real i get scared and wake up. in one instance i was aware of sleeping in my bed while simultaniously i was also standing in front my bathroom mirror. i was wearing the t-shirt i had worn earlier that day and i could examine it with such detail it was if I was actually standing there. when i noticed that i was also in my bed everything became blurry and i woke up. the next night i dreamt i was standing in front of the mirror again only my hair was messy and it was too dark to see my face.

since then i seem to have hit a dreaming "dry spell". i can't remember any dreams or just have normal dreams. but in my normal dreams i keep thinking that i should be doing something. another thing is that the few regular dreams i have had are more vivid!

i will post my last 2 dreams below in the next post.

dream 1: in the dream the character (which i am assuming is my new friend)would lock himself in artight glass rooms. where he would expose himself to a gigantic dinner table sized red light. the red light would give him euphoric insights into things and visions. i noticed a negative effect: every time he left the glass room over an hour interval he seemed more detached from the world. it seemed like his energy was draining. i had a thought that if he kept up his addiction with the red light room that it would kill him.

i also was tempted to spend time in the red light room. because i wanted to experience the effects for myself. i tried to go in one room but my brother intervened. he told me that if i locked myself in that red light room that there was nothing he could do for me because i would be forever lost like my friend.

Dream 2: i tried the CID (chocolate induced dream). probly the most linear dream i've ever had. in the whole dream i was walking around toronto with my roomate and his brother talking. nothing out of the ordinary happened in the dream (which is unusual for me because EVERY dream i have had is like twilight zone stuff).

i have a feeling that the CID will help me stay in a dream to view it's objects so i will esperiment further.

Hey ranma.

Just stopped in. Very impressed that you already have a method that you're working away at. Very interesting.

Keep dream journaling. Even if you only remember a scrap of a dream. Jot it down. You may find that if you go back to it later you'll remember more. Sometimes all it takes is a word or two to get the dream memories flowing.

Keep it up.
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Hey ranma.



Keep it up.
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i'll do my best to keep it up!

Did the Chocolate thing again. luckily the alarm didn't wake me up 'cause then i would've missed the show: i awoke to some lady screaming. went to my window, and some car was smashing into random shit in a plaza. the driver threw 3 people out of his car. went to a back alley and smashed into a huge curb and then hid at my buildings parking lot. (i live 20 storeys up hence the good view) the cops were there before i had time to finish inhaling my KitKat bar! saw the dude get busted and everything.

then i went back to bed.

the dream:

i'm at my Apartment. it's morning so i decide to go and get my morning coffee from country style. the place winded up being Tim Hortons. i should've noticed the obvious sign that IT WAS ONLY A DREAM!

anyway i go in and walked back out again. the person working there was the girl i had a HUGE crush on in junior high. (don't get me wrong Even I can approach intimidating women in clubs and stuff. but whenever i run into this girl i get tounge tied).

anyway i sneak back in to get served! ummm coffee. and then i'm walking around outside again. i go into a random building and get lost for a while. i go up and down corriders and around strange corners. i find this little crawlspace leading to a door but i can't fit through.

I'm suddenly back at my apartment!! Dan (my roomy) is playing video games. He has a Shady friend with him. i go into the other room and on the t.v. i can see what game they are playing!

i Go back to the other room where Dan is and i pull him aside and tell him i don't like his friend and that he should leave. because i can tell the guy is a drug addict and only wants to scam his next fix out of us. his friend leaves and then dan starts to cry because he brought another danger into our apartment. (there is a real story behind this: Dan went to the bar one night and brought home a crack fiend. this guy told Dan and my other roommate that he could get them good deals on weed. which involved a bike and over $400 dollars on their part. They never saw their weed and money. nor were able to keep the bike).

i wake up and go to dan to tell him the dream. (i didn't actually wake up yet). and there his friend is again!. i tell dan "Holy shit i just dreamt this i must be psychic." i sit around perplexed about the strange dream i had.

then i REALLY woke up and sat around for a moment perplexed about the strange dream i had!

That sounds like a pretty crazy dream. Could that have anything to do with the guy you saw before you went back to sleep?

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That sounds like a pretty crazy dream. Could that have anything to do with the guy you saw before you went back to sleep?
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you know it might have. i have no pity for crack fiends, or retards who wake me up in the middle of the night trying to live a "thug life".

i can only remember a tidbit or two from last night.

dream1: Trevor (the journeyman on the construction crew i belong to.) is using a fancy new tool for the job. he turns it aound and i can see another interesting dimention to it.

Dream 2: I'm looking at another crawlspace that i can't fit through. it reminds me of the dream where i saw one like it. i forget the rest. but i seem to remember looking at this crawlspace in the daily world. but when i think about it i've never actually seen it therefore it must have been a part of a dream last night.

yesterday on my way home form work, i was a passenger in my boss's truck. i was sleepy so i tried to sleep. i kept nodding off and then dreamt i was staring at my hands. every time i saw my hands i woke up instantly. this happened 3 times.

this morning i couldn't remember a thing. so i lay in bed for a while trying to remember something. i kept getting flashes of memories but i could barely hold onto them.

all i can remember from last night is: i dreamt i was at work and Trevor wass pointing out to my boss that i wasn't performing well on the job. i also remember a brief flash of standing in line some where.

that's it.

Good work son. :content:

Just keep logging your dreams. Even if it's only a sentence or a word. Like anything else in life dream recall takes practice. Keep it up.

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Good work son. :content:

Just keep logging your dreams. Even if it's only a sentence or a word. Like anything else in life dream recall takes practice. Keep it up.
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Thanks for the support!

today i took the train home from work. i was very sleepy so i kept finding my hands. i'm noticing that even though i wake up when i go back to sleep the dream continues. for example i'll see my hands rising to my face, wake up, then fall back asleep and they are in front of my face.

Nagual Lone Wolf suggested to me once that to stay in a dream - if you wake up, simply fall back a sleep and focus your intent on the dream. (Nagual lone wolf BTW is a toltec sorcerer. who runs a private forum of which i belong to, his forum explores the more mystical properties, if any, of dreaming)

last night all i could remember about 2 seconds of dreaming. from that 2 seconds i remembered a lot of detail. i was standing in a room with Lone Wolf, or he was behind me. in the middle of the room was either a large pillar or statue, or it was a hole in the ground, i'm not sure. but whatever i was doing was going against lonewolfs instrucions. that's it!


I will provide a list of common dream characters that appear frequently in dreams. these are people i know from my daily life.

Dan- roomate
Jesse- former roomate.
Trevor- dan's step brother.
Royce - my boss and father of Dan and Trevor.
Arthur - my brother
Shawna - a girl i knew from school years ago.

Dirty clothing:

i was in a hospital of some sort. A horde of Elderly dead folk were coming in by the truck load.
It was my job to hand scrub their clothes after they were taken off their corpses. I had a basin filled with water, i couldn't believe i had to wash dead people's clothes. they were filthy, they had tar all over them.

Dream 1. Mall house:

i was in a gigantic house that was also like a mall. it was tall and had escalators. the living room was the plaza and had a gigantic T.v. :bowdown: . the rooms an bathrooms looked like stores in a mall. It was like a gigantic eaton center that you could live in! i think i had friends with me but what i remember was the owner. we got along great!

Dream 2: i was in a house on top of a huge hill over looking toronto (there are no hills overlooking toronto). i was heading to the house, i heard this Huge boom. i ran into the big house and looked down at toronto. there was a huge power outage. it went away after a while. there was a bunch of people at the house. the funny thing was there was a bunch of black guys i was working with but they didn't listen to rap in fact they played this song: http://anderssonmusic.com/mp3/despair_and_pain.mp3. it was so incongruent, i shoul've noticed the obvious signs that it was a dream.

extra note. i attempted Wild. I had HUGE hypnogogic imagery. i eventually fell asleep in my attempt but i got close. the imagery was hilarious because i saw white energetic fibers extending into infinity. it looked like strands of compacted dry sperm. It looked like cosmic Semen :chuckle:

Last night i tried the vitamin b6. only because of my ignorance i took a bit too much and at the wrong time. i didn't fall asleep till 3 am. i had massive hallucinations and HI tho!!!!

dream1: i was semi lucid for a moment i saw myself in a mirror playing guitar. i tried to hold onto the image but it faded and i woke up.

Dream 2: Very fragmented dream. I was walking inside buildings that looked like Forums????? maybe i was walking around in cyberspace. anyway i was walking on the different posts in LoneWolfs forum. there was people all around but i couldn't see them. Lonewolfs presence was felt again but i couldn't find him or his party. There was a girl involved, I think she was some girl from my childhood. the feeling was that she had betrayed me somehow.
I shift to where i'm in a strange building. i see someone trying to get up the edge of a broken staircase. they use a block of stirofoam to lean against something about 4 ft. off the ground. the stirofoam barely reaches it yet the person is able to lean it and use it to get up. i try it and i can't seem to get the piece of stirofoam to lean because it hardly reaches the ledge. i find a place and i try to climb up. the stirofoam is stable but i still can't make it up. people immidiately rush in to build the rest of the stairs and railing so that people can get up.

i shift again, i'm in the same building. it looks like a swimming pool of molten lava. people are in bathing suits getting ready to swim. I'm running from someone, i think it's my dad. i run up some stairs near the swimming pool. i enter a changing room, no one is in there but the person is coming closer so i run through a door, it's a changing room for children (this is disturbing) i get afriad they will think i'm some sort of pervert pedo or something, but it seems they don't notice me. i seem to be safe from whoever is stalking me. One of the walls is missing i go to it to see if i can get out of the room. but it only leads to the pool of lava.

i wake up.

Hey there. You do have some interesting dreams.
Always a pleasure to sneak in and take a peek at them.

About your description of HI... that's a very accurate and somewhat new and disturbing way of looking at it. Cosmic semen... :lol:

Dream 1: i'm at a waterpark

Dream 2. i'm floating over a city and sometimes i'm walking. no lucidity.

Dream 3: i was trying to enter this dream half the night but i couldn't quite seem to enter it fully

Dream 4: Betrayal:

This whole dream was very long. i can't remember all specifics. first i was visiting my brother. he was moving away. he said goodbye and boarded a boat journeying down a river into the wilderness. i had the general feeling EVERYONE i knew was going somewhere.

I went to see Dave (a childhood friend.) he was mad that i showed up, he too was moving away. I apologised for last time that i had talked to him. but i came by to explain to him what was going on. we walked around calgary talking about things. i told him that i had broke the sober pact: that after the long time i had known him i was having the odd beer and smoking up once in a while - i assured him there was no addiction, just an odd time thing. i don't remember if he was worried. He left on his trip and i was left alone in calgary. barely anyone was around. I waited by the Tim Hortons to see if my old co workers would come by - perhaps i would be able to persuade them to give me a job.

I thought i had spotted their yellow truck but it was parked alone and lying on it's side. a gust of wind placed it back on it's tired. I roamed the streets until night time. i came to a subdivision street where there were nice houses. One of them looked to be on fire. I heard a number of young girls yelling "LOOK!". i stood by to watch the house burn. but it wasn't a house. I saw fireworks suddenly launch. i focused my eyes more and i saw they were missiles. It seemed that they were infared. i looked harder, a jolt of panic swept through me.

T.V. screens popped up. there was a computer graphic display telling the public that the missiles were for destroying a building. Then i saw a Flash. the Graphic display was only to keep people from panicking.
I ran to hide against a house. ground zero was luckily far away. but i wondered if the flash would cause radiation poisoning. i looked through the glass of the house Door. i saw another flash through the small triangle window on the other side of the house. I knew i was doomed. Everyone I knew had left me to die. they never told me what was coming. i sat down against the door of the house and closed my eyes waiting to embrace the shockwave that would return me to dust.

Yeah your right that dream seems alot more scary then mine. :shock:

Lucid flash: I was lucid for a second. i was looking at my watch and i woke up. (i don't have a watch)

Ah, I'm jealous of your mirror lucidity! For some reason, I'm scared of mirrors in my dreams; not to mention my fear of them when I get up to go to the bathroom during a WBTB.

Do you use any consistent RCs, or just FILD and CC?

The mirror thing that sort of happened on it's own.
These dreams are wierd, they don't feel like dreams. it feels like i'm actually there. my image remains constant.

i have a thread in beyond dreaming entitled "me and my double." read it through i have a technique is use for mirrors in my waking life. it's bound to have an effect on dreams! and it IS scary! but so cool!

I dreamed i was in a house talking about dreaming.

I dreamed i was in a house and walking around with some seedy guy with blonde hair.

i dreamed i was playing a keytar! it was awesome.

Hey son. Sorry I haven't been around more.
Good work sticking to the dream journaling.
Oh, I saw you in one of my dreams last night. Just a glimpse and I didn't realize who you were until after I woke up and really thought about it.
I may not have been around on the forum much but my son's still on my mind.
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odds:

mirrors have somehow been a problem for me too for a long time, but i can say that once one starts "surviving" a mirror's view (i mean "not waking up in panic every time) they are useful-
now i even use them to keep the dream stable, dunno why it works. And it's nice to change your apparence or just see how your brain sees you"

Hey, vex i wonder which dream about me you had.

i had two brief LD's

both involved "someone" from this forum (you know who you are).

IM: i was talking to the person on MSN. this is all i remember of the convo

x says: (incoherent sentence)... Dream herb

i went lucid and woke up.

Floating: i walked into a room and i saw X suspende in midair just floating. eyes were closed and i could tell the person was asleep but not yet in REM sleep. eitherwise i would be able to intereact wiht the person.

I had a dream about a red jewel with a spirit inside it. someone was guiding me to see and interact with the spirit. i was being very carefull because the spirit was potentially dangerous.

I had a dream i was at work with bill. i was helping him install a doory. i went back and forth and when it was on i was placing poly over the door so no paint would get on it.

Hey, good to see you're still hard at it.

You should start reality checking while you're at work. Or at least question whether you're dreaming while there. Work keeps popping up in your dreams, maybe use it as a dreamsign? Though it's a rather mundane one, it's a start at least.

HOLY CRAP. i was having a dry spell and i had KILLER dreams last night. LD's are in RED.

1. DV forum:

i was on DV looking at the FILD page. i saw something that read: for more testimonials click here. i clicked and i found another forum just like dreamviews. in fact it might have been an ancient DV archive. i recognised some names. i was thinking "this is freakin sweet."

then i woke up and lay in bed for an hour and a half trying to FILD.

2.more Hands
It was pitch black, i saw and sensed waves of energy going through my body. i thought i was just passed sleep paralysis. i was suddenly looking into a dark room. i was trying to look for my hands. i didn't sense them at first but then i saw them riseing towards my face. i faded out.

3.CC Table
I was looking at a screen. i knew i was dreaming so i looked at the different objects on the screen in a systematic fashion to keep the objects from changing. the objects were staying constant for about 15 seconds and then began to change. i was losing my dreaming attention. fade out...

4. Old Skool:
first thing i remember is that i'm in a classroom. Dan (see DC list on first page of DJ) was using a computer. i wanted on the computer. but he said he'd be a few minutes. so i left. after roaming the halls i got scared by these read feathery things that were floating around. i went back to the class room and i noticed the room was different. both Dan and the Computer were gone. i thought he was mad and took my computer. I'm in another classroom suddenly and i'm facing a friend i knew from junior high. i think "why haven't i seen him in so long." as it turns out i'm in the wrong classroom. so i start roaming the halls again. i go into the basement of the school looking for the right classroom. i turn a corner and there's more of these red feathers floating and moving about 7 inches from the floor. they look so strange. i look harder and i see they are rats wiith red feathers that stick out like quills on a hedgehog.

They are disgusting rats. they had huge teeth and were shitting all over the floor. i ran upstairs grossed out. i go into a classroom that i think is mine. i see a friend there on his computer. i tell him about the band Sonata Arctica. he seems interested so i play him an mp3. it turns out it's not an actual song but a midi rendition spiced up with soundfonts to make the midi sound better. i get dissapointed since i wanted him to hear the studio version. but he seemed to like it.

As it turns out i was in the wrong classroom again. so i left again to find the right class. i roamed for a few minutes and then it suddenly hit me : i Finished highschool 3 years ago! WHY would i be at school?

I became lucid. the dream suddenly felt real. i opened the door to the outside and realised that i actually feel with my hands the texture of the door. I excitedly ran up to a huge window and just spent minutes just feeling the window and admiring how REAL it felt. i could even differentiate between hot and cold and where peoples breath had warmed spots on the windows

I suddenly woke up on a beach. i looked around stunned, this wasn't my apartment. but it looked like somewhere in southern ontario (i've never been south of mississauga so how would i know what southern ontario is like?) the sand was about 5 feet away from a 4 ft high sandcliff. past the cliff was grass. i looked to my right and in the distance i saw some people coming. i climbed up the cliff and it seemed the cliff wasn't solid. but i managed to make it up. i found a path that looked like it hadn't been used for weeks so i tried to walk along it. further in the grass i saw a brown dog or wolf prowling. he was running in circles chasing something. he looked freaky so i jumped back down the cliff so he wouldn't spot me.

The people i saw earlier were a few minutes walking distance away. Perhaps i could ask them how to get home from here. but i tried my luck and climbed back up the cliff almost falling down again. i didn't hear the wolf. so i started walking. I spotted him AGAIN. and he seemed really angry i knew if he spotted me he would take his anger out on me. i went back down the cliff again. The people were there.

there was a man that appeared to be in his early 30's but his maneurisms were that of someone much older. He had a light medium build, with short blonde hair. with him was a stunning blonde woman that seemed to be his wife. they sat down a few yards away. i think they had children playing in the distance but i payed no attention

"'scuse me" i said. "This may sound strange but i was dreaming and then i woke up here! WHERE the hell am i exactly?".

the blonde woman ignored me but the man gave me a scrutinising look and said. " HUH? son! how could you NOT know where you are". he then smiled and laughed. "dreaming and then woke up here?!?!?" he laughed again.

"Uh yeah, iw as having the most amazing dream and then i woke up here. And i don't know where here is..."

end of dream.

Absolute excellence!
Persistence and the threat of punishment does work! haha. 3 LD's in one night. The most I've ever managed is 2. You'll be a LD master in no time I bet.
Keep it up. So proud of you, son.

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Awww :hug: You're an awesome teacher!

I had 2 dreams.

1: Holly.

Holly designed a new timesheet for our company. it was somewhat skinner and easier to fill out.

2. Bill & Ron:

i was at someplace undescribable. but somehow Ron and Bill were there. i kept running into one or the other. both were demanding i help them with their individual job. bill would catch me doing domething for ron and take me to his job. and then Ron would steal me away while i was at Bills. this went on the entire dream.

OK i had some awesome dreaming.

the wood lodge:

i was in a car with shannon, Ron, and Shannon's kids. we went to some wooden lodge.one of the kids was having an operation there. I remember being in the car and suddenly x was sitting in the place of my dad. she was holding one of the kids spare shirts, she held a black light up to it and pointed out Semen stains (WTF?).

anyway it was my dad again. we all went inside the lodge. the child went into the operation room. i remember talking to someone but i forget who it was.

after the operation a man approached us and did a magic trick. he was spinning a cloth around in an amazing manner. he snapped the cloth towards to kid and in the kids hand was Candy or something. Everyone clapped!
i wanted to ask the guy how he did that magic trick but he was gone. i went to the corner store at the lodge and bought a string so i can practice his mesmeric spinning.
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i woke up at 3 AM and tried to FILD again. But i was too preoocupied with something else that had gone on earlier that day. i fell aleep after a couple hours.

The Art of Seduction:

I was observing the dream but not a participant. there were two people in a car. a woman was sitting up front and a guy was in the backseat. i can't recall what the woman looked like but i do remember the guy.
He was muscular, he wore a pimp hat and shades, beard, and a BLING necklace. he also had the demeanor of a biker. the woman was saying something about tattoos or peircings. The man than started talking about tattoos, he said that many females enjoy getting piecings and tatts because they enjoy the pain. They get off on it infact.

To emphasize his point he leaned over and pinched her right breast. but not hard enough to make a scar. he was whispering in her ear and lightly breathing on her neck. he kept describing the mix of pain and pleasure she was experiencing. she resisted a little and said something. her voice was very feminine but almost nasally like Fran from "The Nanny". he kept plowing through her defences with his seduction technique. she soon began to moan in pleasure. she was giving in. Fade out...

I awoke again. iwas half asleep but i felt a female presence. everytime i lay on my right it was like i was cuddling with someone. this wasn't something i felt physically but a gut feeling.

i was dreaming agian.

A kiss goodbye:

I was at a subway station with my Girlfriend ( i have no current GF WTF?). We were talking. i don't remember what was said. I was feeling bad because i had no money for the subway. WE put our change together. and i had enough to go on my way. i thought she was mad at me or something. i turned to walk away but she grabbed and hugged me. even more suprising she gave me a smooch right on the lips!

I awoke. i remembered the dream instantly. i felt it was if whoever it was knew i was about to start my day. it was her way of sending me off for the day.

all these happened saturday night. I had just come back from a seminar, brain was on information overload. but i did manage to have these dreams.

Seminar: I'm at the same seminar i was at earlier in the day, only it was a big building. Steve was trying to gather all of us back but we were too busy honing our new skills!

Burning house: i was in a room of an old creaky house. i was occupied with something. a fire was going on a few rooms away. i wasn't bothered by it tho. i heard stairs crashing down and there were firemen running by.
they yelled "MOVE AWAY" so i went around the corner and heard an explosion. and some bits of fire went into my hiding place. they were starting to spread so i grabbed a huge cloth and started smacking the fires out.
it worked.

Kisses: i was looking at what might have been a huge t.v. screen. on the screen was a letter written to me. i couldn't read it but i could read the signature. the sig was messed up and it looked like this:
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4319/untitledlh7.png

Sex toy: I was in a house with some chump who found some pictures of his wife cheating on him and masurbating with various toys. he was crying and shit. i felt no pity for him. i remember thinking " ha what a loser. he obviously can't sexually please his wife. if i were her i would cheat too"

3 dreams last night.

Cloudy:

I'm walking with x out in a field. she points out some nice clouds. they look spectacular!

Gary: I'm in a car with my brother and a friend i haven't seen in ages. Gary is driving through fields really fast. there's bumps in the field and in makes the car do jumps. Gary starts driving super fast. i tell him to slow down but it seems he has a death wish. he goes off a huge bump and we air at least 16 ft in the air. i know i'm gonna die but i mangae to make it out of the sunfroof in mid-air and then grab on to some branches of a high tree.

i watch the car crash. i quickly climb down. my brother is out cold. the car landed on it's roof. Gary is still concious and i run for help. here's where i get confused. i remember getting chased by a brown dog, but i also remember a female chasing me. she was a bout my height (i'm short) with shoulder length light brown hair.
I reach a fence, over the fence is a village. the dog or the girl warn me not to go inside. but i do anyway. i find some people and they are friendly. i seem to forget about the car accident. i told them a girl said i shouldn't come into this village. they said, nonsense, she didn't know that i was one of them.

just then she walks in giving me a cold stare. they pull her aside and explain to her why i'm there.

Talking: I briefly remember talking to x again. don't know where or what about. i just remember it.

Popped some b6 last night. woke up at 3 am for no reason and didn't sleep much at all after.

2 short dreams.

Thelma: i was in a room with a computer and Thelma was on it. i talked to her for a bit. she seemed happy to see me again but was preoccupied with something else.

Grandpa: i was watching my grandpa leave a bank, or a clinic. i suddenly heard bach's organ Fugue in d-min. it was his cellphone ring. he reached into his pocket and opened his cell phone, when he put it to his ear he heard a computerised voice say "You are having a heart attack". he then grasped his chest and then i woke up.

Setting up shared dreaming with x:

I was in what looked to be my room. but at the same time it wasn't mine. i kind of felt like i wasn't supposed to be in that room. but it was my room. X was there i think we may have been talking earlier i don't know.

But it appeared she was aware of me and we were about to set up dreaming together. there we're two beds almost touching. i think our plan sleep in the separate beds and think of dreaming together and somehow we would accomplish it this way. the bed against the wall was bigger than the other one.

i clearly remember watching X lying on the smaller bed while playing a video game. i think she said it would help her to get lucid. so i payed attention to what she was doing. She would play the game on a more difficult level. i watched carefully what she did and she won at the game everytime. after she said she had to leave for a minute - but i should use the game to get lucid. she left so i trtied the game. i easily blasted through a few levels on that difficulty.

i then shut out the lights and tried to WILD in the smaller bed. i almost fell asleep a few times. but i got up to try the game again. X still hadn't come back yet.

Good work with with the journaling .... after reading this i just realized something.

man i've been getting some bad recall and sleep patterns the past few days.

2 very short dreams from last night.

Hands: X was handing me something or i was looking at her hands.

Harpsichord: i was in a music store looking at keyboards. i heard someone playing Bach's bwv1052 concerto on a harpsichord. i found a harpsichord and tried to play it but i couldn't distinguiash between the white and the black keys. i tried playing the same concerto but i noticed the keyboard had only 2 octaves. then i tried doing a bach prelude but i still couldn't find the right keys.

Edit: i was watching interview with the vampire last night. in that movie theres a lot of harpsichord so maybe it affected the dream.

bachs BWV1052 btw is my fav concerto: http://amd.streamload.com/ranma187/Hosted/...-%20Allegro.mp3

wierd bathroom:

i was in a strange apartment building. i went to a bathroom to take a shower but the tub was filled with dirty water. and there was metal scraps in the water. same went for the toilet.

X in the hallway: I'm walking in a school of some sort. i see 2 girls walk around the corner. the one on the left i recognise instantly, and i know she recognises me. (she had this deer caught in the headlights look). the shock of seeing this wakes me up.

window: i'm in a vehicle of some sort i'm looking out the window and then at my own reflection. i do this a few times.

Line 6: i'm at my computer with my guitar. my guitar is plugged into one of these:

http://images.music123.com/products/...%206/85016.jpg

i also have some sort of consol on the computer. i'm messing around with the different settings. they have great metallica distortion. good tones for shred and yngwie malmsteen type stuff. it fucking rocks!!!

few dreams from last night.

1. this one is really hazy. i'm at a bowling alley and i look into a mirror. i see a shadow on the other side of the mirror.

2. i'm at a resteraunt with some people.

3. I'm walking somewhere with x. i have a bible under my left arm. but when i pull it out and look at it. it's this book: http://ec3.images-amazon.com/images/...CLZZZZZZZ_.jpg


4.The wrong shirt: i'm on a university campus with x. we are walking outside walking side by side. i notice i'm wearing a shirt that says "spank me i've been a bad boy". i go to show x my shirt but sudenly i'm wearing a different shirt. but i spot the shirt i want to show her underneath the other one. so i take it off. and it's still the wrong shirt. so i take it off and it's 2 shirts molded into one???? so i keep taking off at least 10 shirts trying to find this shirt. i woulda notice the inconsistency and became lucid but i became preoocupied with finding the shirt. i come down to the last shirt and i'm wearing a plad overjacket and a white shirt. i think "i hate plad why the fuck am i wearing plad"

I find the right shirt in the pile of shirts i had taken off. i realise X is no londer there to see it. DAMN!

1. TV: this is messed up. i was watching a television and i saw a girls face on a tv. she had dark brown hair and brown eyes. her head kept moving slightly and there were ghost like tracers whenever she moved her head. iwas being pulled into the t.v.

2.White house: i was on a huge construction site. my Dad was there and telling me to get to work. so i was helping him. Royce would show up and i had the feeling h didn't want me on the job so i kept hiding from him. i wanted to tell him i wanted my job back. i even snuck into his truck when he was driving away. he knew i was there but wouldn't talk to me. he started swerving to get me out of his truck.
suddenly i was in the room again staring at the same t.v. with the same girl on the screen.

3. Bad Sex: i was getting into the act with someone but it wasn't working out. i was tired and couldn't get into it. this was all very hazy lol.

Job: i was on a new job. i was running out of things to do but i kept trying to stay busy so the boss wouldn't see me standing around.

Wolf. i kept going up a passageway in a wooded area. i noticed a wolf was following me. he seemed friendly but i ignored him. ater on i had to pass through the same place. as i expected he was still there and watching me.

Woods: i was walking in the woods somewhere.

*popped b6 and was sick so i didn't fall asleep till 2 am*

Finding X: i went to a town that i thought x was in. i searched everywhere for her. she had run off somewhere leaving only a trail of strange pictures. i remember thinking "this was a complete waste of time"

Train: i was sitting on a GO train. i was in a regular seat but i noticed people had tables by their seats and we're eating. they looked like they were enjoying their food. i was pretty hungry. but i didn't see any waiters around. i was also talking with an older woman, we seemed to get along well.

Calgary: I was walking around in what i thought was calgary. i was walking outside up some outdoor staircase that led to a large platform where people seemed to be mingling. when i got up to the top some cute girl said something to me. what she said made no sense. i looked at her quizically then smiled and said "OOOOK then"
and kept walking. pretty soon another girl pulled me aside and said something even more stupid.

this kept happening for minutes girls kept walking up to me and pulling me aside to say the most ridiculous things. everytime i talked back they would ignore me and then re-ingage me when i showed dissinterest in their retardedness. Some big guy noticed what was going on and he tried to be the big Alpha male on me. he kept threatening me (musta been jealous of all the attention i was getting). i go "yeah whatever man, i'm just here to socialise you don't need to act that like that." this angered him more.

i started to walk down the stairs again but he kept cutting me off and yelling obsenities at me. it was obvious i wouldn't get away without having to fight him. i didn't have time for this. i jsut kept walking away from him and not even acknowledging him, which angered him more.

I suddenly realised it was a dream. as soon as i knew i looked straight at this guy and i began to rise into the air and put my arms down and out like Jesus coming back to earth. i looked at him and laughed. he was suddenly scared and ran away!

i began flying at breakneck speed all over the city. i had a nagging sensation that i was supposed find someone so i flew out of town at jet speed. i came back to the small town i had been in another dream earlier but i forgot who i was supposed to find. oh well, this is my dream and i'm gonna have fun in it.

I flew back to the city and i noticed a harbor. as soon as i was over the water i saw everything as infared. I remembered to look at things in a systematic fashion. so i flew all over the water just looking at everything in brief glances. i saw objects more clearly as they flew past me. the sense of vagueness of the dream was gone. i could feel the wind as i sliced through it.

since iw as flying over water i wondered if i could go under the water without drowning. i hesitated for a few moments and then i dove under the water. i could breathe! everything was going black so i just kept going deeper and deeper enjoying this freedom until the dream was over

Edit: i had a 4th dream where i woke up and wrote the LD down. then i really woke up and had to re-remember. so i may have lost some recall because of that.

Hey. I'm still stalking about. Good to see you had a lucid. I've not been able to nap so I haven't been able to WILD at all. Have only had a couple of DILDs, if I remember correctly.

Cruddy recall on my end this weekend. Was jolted awake every morning. Didn't have the luxury of relaxing after waking so I could recall my dreams. I'm so jealous you had a lucid. At least one of us is gettin' some. :wink:

i only remember one dream. I laid awake trying to recall for an hour and it wasn't until i was already up that i remembered this particular dream.

Fourplay: I was sitting on a bed across from a woman. can't be 100% sure but i think it was x 'cause of the nature of the banter we were exchanging. we're both unclothed, talking and kissing. i don't remember anything that was said. i was playfully teasing her until she was ready

She then looks me in the eye and grabs my hand, puts it up to her mouth and puts saliva on my index and middle fingers. she then pushed my hand towards her crotch. i remember thinking back to my seminar when the one instructor mentioned that saliva doesn't suffice for lubricant. but it appeared i had none. I took my hand back and said "uh uh. i have a better idea, lay back". she obeyed and i wetted , with my spit, the middle and ring finger of my right hand. (something i also had learned from the seminar). put her left leg over my shoulder and put my left arm around her left leg so i could pull her belly skin up so i had better access. i began putting my fingers inside her. and i don't rember the rest.... DAMNIT! :mad:

That x is one lucky gal.

:D

I was going to say too bad you can't remember the rest of the dream but damn, that part alone sounds like it was an amazing experience.

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That x is one lucky gal.

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yeah all i can say is that she would not only squirt... but have a BLAST.


Dream 1: the rest of the X dream: i was on DV reading my dream journal and i saw the continuation of the previous x rated dream that i had. I knew i was dreaming, i frantically tried to read the rest but the words we're blurry. i knew if i could only read it proberly i would recall it and write it down. but the dream faded. DAMNIT :mad:


Dream 2.Two fat Schitzophrenics:

i was in a room with my REAL mother. she was delusional, spouting off all sorts of crazy insanities. i knew she had failed to take her medication again.

shifted to a church. James my roommy. was still going on about how mad at me he was. i wanted to kill him.
but he left. i saw a friend i recognised from the seminar. he was telling me his latest funny stories about his clubbing adventures. i had a notebook on the table, james came back and started reading it. i told him to put it down because there we're things in there not for his eyes. he put it down and read someone elses journal.

Suddenly a fat woman named Linda walked into the church. she was carrying a huge cross and was babbling her delusions about god and how we were all going to hell if we didn't mix the semen of the dog, with the blood of the lamb or something. i knew she was off her meds too. i couldn't help but laugh. i felt no pity.

X kisses: i was with X again. we started kissing.

Dominic and Bear:

i was leaving a job with Dominic (co worker). it was snowy. we were walking along a road. we suddenly had a sort of sled and started riding it up the road.

Suddenly there was no snow, we were both skateboarding (i don't skate lol). we were jumping over rocks and having a blast. Dominic yelled something and i looked. a Grizzly bear was crossing the road going towards Dominic.

I knew it meant the bear was after us. so i began to run. the dream suddenly went half speed. i was running fast hoping the bear didn't see me. i looked behind me and i saw him running behind me. I know bears can run up to 60 km per hour. i knew i was doomed.

i kept running. i was jumping over the rocks i had skated over before. but they seemed larger. i kept running around the larger rocks in hopes to confuse the bear. but to no avail he was still gaining.

Had bad recall last night.

wrote down some key words but i forgot what they meant in the dreams all i got is.

-forrest Walk
-forum talk.

other dreams:

dreaming awake: i was in a bath-tub and someone was in there with me. the person was instructing me how to wash my hair. i realised it was a middle aged man and i got grossed out. i began waking up and on my bed was sitting the same guy. i told him to get the fuck out, he said something, but i don't remember. something about if i wanted something i would have to do something. I was CLEARLY awake but dreaming at the same time. after he saw that i wasn't interested and that i couldn't understand him the image of him faded and my room came into focus.

i lay back and wondered if the schitzophrenia from my mothers side was kicking in. as i thought this i felt like i was falling and spinning, my ears buzzed and i became normal again.

Clean shaven: i was staring into a mirror and i had a clean shaven face. it was so smooth it was almost as if i never had any facial hair.

Edit: just remembered this one: I'm reading something on the computer. it's all blurry. it says something about X.

I started reading your dream journal yesterday. I guess that was enough to get you in my dreams. :D Come and see...

That's amazing TwoShadows!

pretty bad recall from last night, i only remember a few dissassociated images.

i dreamt i was back at the thanksgiving dinner. Royce was entertaining everyone.

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Sorry to hear that. My night started out similar. But then I had a Lucid Dream!! Finally. It's been a long time.

yeah i forgot to set my alarm for 3 am. i stopped setting it because i was waking up minutes before it went off. but it looks like is still need it!

i hope you enjoy my DJ i have the most bizarre dreams!

You dream skank!
You were in one of my dreams last night too.
You wouldn't have been trying to wrangle up a dream threesome now... would you?
:P

Hopefully you'll have a good dream or two tonight.
Sweet dreams, son.
heh heh

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You dream skank!
You were in one of my dreams last night too.
You wouldn't have been trying to wrangle up a dream threesome now... would you?
:P

Hopefully you'll have a good dream or two tonight.
Sweet dreams, son.
heh heh
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WE did nothing i swear!!!! wait... why am i explaining myself to you????

heh seems i do get around :wink:

anyway my DJ now has had 666 views:

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2048/666vd7.png


:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Yes, you do seem to get around.

And that 666 thing is kind of funny and kind of freaky at the same time considering my dream with you last night had something to do with satanic stuff.

Coincidence? Or not?
:evil:

hmm, maybe. I love strange synchronicities! it's good practice to pay attention to the synchronicity of events. I've had some quite alarming ones myself!

Sorry for leaving you in the dream. strange, i seem to remember something to do with you about satanism or something like it. might have been a dream or maybe something we talked about last night in chat. i can't remember....

Hmm. I don't think we discussed anything satanic. Maybe skirted the subject? If we did I don't recall it.

And since you mentioned syncronisities... I've been noticing a lot of them too lately.
So many that I'm beginning to wonder if they are all coincidences.
And what if they're not. What does it all mean?
:?:

bad effing recall again.

1. i was talking to my adoptee.

Just keep trying... :)

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Just keep trying... :)
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well now that i have your blessing i just might :content:

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well now that i have your blessing i just might :content:
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Good. You just do that.

:dreaming:

Edit: (That's you LDing)

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because you do have good dreams (i've been reading through your DJ) and because you are a VERRRY nice person. i finally gave this thread the rating it deserves!
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And that--was a very nice comment! Thanks for reading my DJ...and for the comments :) . It's nice to know that we are all trying together.

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And that--was a very nice comment! Thanks for reading my DJ...and for the comments :) . It's nice to know that we are all trying together.
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heh. you didn't have to come back and say that! :thanks: I feel a good dream tonight is almost inevitable!

CHEERS for trying together!


Edit: Ok i think I'm ready to try the second gate of dreaming:

to review the first gate: Find your hands in your dreams. view your hands and other objects in a systematic fashion. the system: Hands, object, object, object, hands, same object, same object, same object, hands etc.

all objects are viewed in quick and brief glances. the goal here is to keep the objects stable. good practice of this system enables you to sustain the view of ANY object in your dream, another by product it REALNESS!

The Second Gate of Dreaming: Pick a specific place, another dream and go there. NOT to be confused with false awakenings.

To change the dream or go to a specific place. simply will it without thought. to transport yourself to a distant location: gaze at a faraway object and let it pull you there. the transition should be instant.

To arrive at the gate simply change dreams. to cross the gate requires more practice of the first gate.

What to look for practicing the gates: anything incongruous or an object that refuses to stay put. such objects have a hard time keeping their color or may change into a ball of energy and fly away. these are called "scouts". I've run into scouts before but i wasn't lucid so i didn't know what they were until. In one dream a scout was in the form of my boss royce. i remember looking at his face and it looked like his face kept going bubbly and changing color, as i stared i was almost hypnotised by it. In another dream The scout was a completely ridiculous object: it was a small piece of ham supporting a giant concrete pole. as i gazed at it it changed color and sometimes looked like it was whole and then in half. i sensed what i was looking at and i instinctively reached for it. as soon as i touched it i got yanked violently up into the sky and out of the dream, from which i awoke that very instant.

The drill for the second gate enables you to follow a scout to it's realm. because i hadn't practiced the drill i didn't get to follow the scout. it tried to pull me but my energy wasn't strong enough to go there.

When you can follow a scout to it's realm you've crossed the gate.

bad recall again.

all i remember is that i was dreaming with Nagual Lonewolf.

Hey, I have barely any recall from last night either. At least our lack recall is sync-ing if nothing else is. :wink:

*takes notes from above longer post*

yeah lets wallow in our no recall togther!

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I guess this just didn't come to pass..... :|

But I say--you were a day off. Tonight is the night for a really good dream. Lucid too. :teeth:

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I guess this just didn't come to pass..... :|

But I say--you were a day off. Tonight is the night for a really good dream. Lucid too. :teeth:
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I sure hope so twoshadows. I hope your blessing works this time! :oops:

Soooo......????


Did it work this time?

well no LD's but i got at least some decent recall.

Dream 1. House: i was in a house with many passage ways.

Dream 2. Serial kid:

The entire dream i was just an observant. the entire dream had a movie feel to it. the closest movie i can think of it coming to was "the good son" with Macully Culkin. 'cause in this dream the villain was a kid about 12 with blond hair. Throughout the dream he went around killing all his best friends.

I wish i could remember the entire sequence of killings but i do remember one particular scene:
The Kid was walking through a park with his friend. he then started a fight with his friend and threw him on the ground. The guy who fell, fell backwards and the back of his head hit a small sharp rock and went straight into the back of his skull. The villain kid then preceeded to stab his friend who was nearly unconcious anyway. there was blood all around. he just kept stabbing and kicking the guy until there was nothing left to kick.

then the scene went to a van where there were people inside watching the movie. on person was a small rat with doglike legs and only the head was human. i sensed he was the leader of everyone in the van and that he was controlling the Serial kid somehow.

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i woke up at 3 am to shut off my alarm and recalled the dreams. wrote down the keywords and lay back abit. i then remembered what vex said about a "Dream threesome" and chuckled at that and fell asleep.

i had a much longer dream. but i lost recall because i dreamed i woke up and wrote it down. by the time i really woke up i forgot it all :(.

Anyway i got up to start my day. Royce picked us up for work. gulped back a coffee and realised it would be at least an hour and a half before reaching the job. (thank you 401 ruch hour traffic). took the opportunity to try and dream some more. i tried to WILD. i got a few dreams of just me looking at my hands and then waking up.


The rat human BTW: i apologise for my shitty ability to use the paint program.

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9176/rathumanfn2.png

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Hey, I just did that recently, too. Kind of funny.....but not really.

But at least you remembered some dreams, and you remembered to look at your hands. I haven't managed to get that one down yet.

Hands are a funny thing! at first they were never mine. it's not until i gazed into mirrors in my waking life that my hands and dreambody became normal.

AND did somebody just rate my DJ??????? hmm????

whoever it was: :loveyou: ..... as a friend!

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Well, kind of looks like it...doesn't it?

8)

Popped b6 last night. layed awake for half an hour and slept.

Dream 1. Richard.

I was in Toronto at night time. I was walking across a plaza when i spotted my childhood friend richard.

"Richard!!!!" i called out to him. the man turned around and i saw he wasn't richard. a second later the REAL richard showed up on his bike. he was wearing the same old white columbia sports jacket he always wore in highschool.

He slowed his pace on his bike allowing me to walk with him. we talked about many things. after a half an hour we turned down an alley way. the alleyway seemed very familiar. i said "Hey richard? i've never been here before but i'm positive i was here in a dream before"

he said. "yes, you've dreamt this before". he then sped off with his bike into the darkness. i called after him and ran into the pitch black alleyway and woke up.

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when i awoke i looked at my alarm. it read 1:45 AM. i thought "perfect!". i layed awake until around 2:15 am.

dream 2. X in a bed: i was on the ceiling in X's room. i watched her get into bed and fall asleep (didn't see anything i shouldn't have tho :wink: ). i hope she hadn't of spotted me and thought i was some peeping wierdo or something. that wasn't my intention i just happened to wind up there.

Dream 3 Meeting X:

i was at home on my computer. i was looking at a forum. the posts seemed to scroll sideways instead of Up to down. i was reading a message from X. it said she was coming to meet me.

the next day i met up with her in Toronto. She looked like i had imagined her to be. but her attitude was quite the opposite. She barely spoke a word to me. i couldn't get anymore than small talk out of her which is unusual because we always seem to talk just fine.

I remembered i had to pick up some Honey dust from S, the female instructor from the seduction seminar i took a month ago. so i took X along with me to get my product. X still didn't say anything to me but followed.
i thought mayb she was just shy or something but i also felt ill at ease about this interaction in general. S met me at her store. i walked in and she put my product in a bag. when she saw X was with me, she immidiately offered me social proof by saying what an awesome guy i am. she told X "He's REALLLY GOOD with his fingers, you're in for a treat." I was embarrased she had said that because that's not the reason i wanted to hang out with X.

X pretended like she didn't hear a thing and looked around the store. S told me "awww don't worry, her box is gonna be too much trouble to fix;) . feel free to fix mine anytime. Finger boy". i laughed and agreed with her on that remark. S started signing my reciept. she was putting down the word "Kisses" but stopped halfways through as if she forgot how to write. i watched her hand shake and struggle as if she had suddenly lost the ability to write.

later on that night i took X. to a friend of mines. he was throwing a party. X still said nothing but small talk and it was making me feel more ill at ease. we went inside and she talked and flirted with everyone at the party and completely ignored me. i then walked outside a little concerned. i made small talk with all my friends and we got into some convos i don't remember.

X suddenly appeared out of nowhere and in a whiny voice said. "I'm hungry. can you give me some money so i can go to the store and get myself some junk food." That was the last straw. there was plenty of junk food at the party and i knew she was making an excuse to leave and not only that, take my money. which i don't have much of anyway. i turned away from her and i turned back and pointed at her. i didn't realise she was only a foot away from me and i ended up accidentally smacking her in the eye.

i said "look i don't know who you think i am but i'm not that kind of guy, sorry." and i walked inside. i was a bit furious i had put all that time and energy into setting up meeting her and trying to provide a fun time and so far she was being an ungratefull brat. i did feel bad for accidentally hitting her. so i went outside to apologise for that and maybe let her hit me back. She was gone. I saw a red limo pulling away and i knew what it meant.

I had a restless sleep that night. i was highly dissapointed with the fact that the person i had met up with as X, was nothing like the one i knew from the internet.

After lying awake a while i decided to go on my computer again. i had a new email and it was from X. i relucently read it.

It read: "Hey Ranma,

it was GREAT meeting you. i hope we can do it again very soon!

funny, i noticed your eyes were dark. i wonder if that has anything to do with the sex dream you had about me.

I have a few new forum posts that i think you should check out. Anyway thanks for putting your # in the book you sent me. I had lost The # you had given me earlier. i will Definately have to call you very soon.

Kisses,

~X"

I was appalled at her performance. she again wasn't acting like the Her that i had met earlier that day. I decided it would be best to forget her. i wondered why i was so angry about it. did i become attatched in some way. well if it did, that would teach me a lesson. i then removed X from my MSN list and blocked her. and went to all the sites where i knew her and removed her from all my contact lists. It was time to be a man. I then dialed S's phone number. i knew she was waiting for me.

Great to see you've had some good vivid recall. Excellent work, Fingerboy. :wink:

That x turned out to be quite the thankless bitch. Did she do something recently to lead you to believe that she was so miserable and ungrateful or did that dream come out of the blue?

Either way that was quite the detailed dream. Both were. *appauds your recall*
Keep it up. :content:




ps. next time you dream of some snobby bitch, dream me to come and kick her ass for ya. :biggrin:

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Great to see you've had some good vivid recall. Excellent work, Fingerboy. :wink:

That x turned out to be quite the thankless bitch. Did she do something recently to lead you to believe that she was so miserable and ungrateful or did that dream come out of the blue?

Either way that was quite the detailed dream. Both were. *appauds your recall*
Keep it up. :content:
ps. next time you dream of some snobby bitch, dream me to come and kick her ass for ya. :biggrin:
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*sigh* i think it's just my subconcious's if digging up feelings i've been repressing lately. In the dream X seemed to embody all the bad behaviors of all my ex's. One ex wasn't a good conversationalist. Although she as physically attractive i experienced Zero rapport with her because she barely would say anything, so i dumped her. another GF i had was a bulemic bitch that lived off my food and puked it back up! and was always demanding that i get her shit that cost me good money. she practically moved into my house and freeloaded for a while, so i kicked her out. Why all those traits went into X i don't know why. Maybe my brain is sort of making me relive those things as a way to get over them so i can make Healthier decisions when it comes to the opposite sex.

But yeah i definately pat myself on the back for the amount of recall. i eventually hope my dreams read out as short stories with full conversations and all :content: :-)

Hmm maybe i might summon you next time some bitch tried to fuck with me. gotta love a cat fight. Knowing me i'd eventually turn it from R rating to a few ratings up :wink:

little recall last night. someone suggested b12. said that it was better than b6. THAT'S A LIE!. i want my $12 back.

Dream 1. MySpace: i was reading 3 new comments on my myspace profile.

Dream 2. Wolf: there was a gigantic wolf that was taller than me.

shitty effing recall last night. last night i was quitting smoking and i lay awake till 4 am.

did have 2 brief flashes.

Dream 1. i remember my hands being cold. X had an extra pair of gloves and put them on my hands. they were black.

Dream 2. another X dream i don't remember what took place.

Man i had some MESSED stuff happen last night.

I lay awake in bed on day 2 of quitting smoking. i was suprisingly calm. i had some interesting HI: i saw a ball being unraveled.

Dream1: i couldn't tell if this was a dream or not. what i mean is that it was either a dream that i had a few nights back, or i was dreaming whilst awake and somehow this event was taking place while i was simultaneously laying awake in bed.

I was thinking if i found X in a dream - i would kiss her. as soon as i thought this i had a strange recollection that seemed faint yet REAL. at first it was blurry because i was awake and yet this other thing was happening. when i focused mainly on this other thing i experienced it more clearly. in this dream i was hugging a Metallic object. my lips were kissing it and i seemed to hold on to it tightly as if trying to merge with this object. i didn't see this color but i felt the color blue. the object, yet metallic, seemed soft to the touch. it was emmiting an electrical buzzing sound. I was also feeling like i was being electrocuted by the object. this wasn't a painfull thing but it was a rather pleasant sensation.

the whole dream i was just feeling it's energy and hearing it's sounds.

Dream 2. Kissing: i was doing what i was thinking about earlier :wink: . not much detail i remember tho.

Dream 3: Don't be Afraid:

I was walking in a suburban area in some city. i was in a truck and being dropped off some where.
I began walking down a street. i noticed on every corner houses had displays of electric pianos. I sat down and started playing one. The owner came out and liked what he heard. he then sat down to play some piano. I didn't like his style. Too contemporary for my taste. but i humored him for a few minutes listening and then i went to the next block.

There was another man standing by a piano. i don't remember much but i think we started talking. we got along very well. As i think back he was the same blond man i see in other dreams. I think he's Nagual Lonewolf. in most dreams he is always an "At your service" character. he sometimes has a few weeks of beard growth but most of the time he's clean shaven. in every dream i seem not to really know who he is.

He invited me into his garage. it was pure white walls with a computer display. i heard a Metallica song playing so i looked at the screen. I can't remember the name of the song but it was from the "Black" Album.
on the screen i saw someone playing an acoustic guitar. he was layering the acoustic riffs over the more chunky guitars. the effects was amazing!

A woman much taller than me entered the room. she stood behind the computer and asked "HEY! why does this song sound so different?" (the dream became super vivid as she entered the room)

Ranma: "It's because The guy on this video is playing an acoustic guitar over the song."
She looked at the computer screen and said "Oh this is cool!"

The blond man seemed to be no longer in the room. The woman pulled a chair from behind a desk and gave it to me so i could sit comfortably and watch the video. i sat in front of the screen and she sat down on something awfully close to where i was sitting. her leg seemed to be rubbing up against mine. I wanted to adjust my posture but couldn't move. it seemed she didn't mind the touch. Suddenly i was sitting a lot closer to her she seemed to be resting her legs on mine. i still couldn't move....

she then adjusted her legs and and Slowly swiveled her behind on what she was sitting. She purposefully lifted her legs up as she did this so that i could have a clear image under her skirt (pink panties!!!). I turned my head away aroused and embarrased that i had seen her. She didn't mind at all.

I tried to watch the video but the music and the computer were gone. she grabbed my wrists and pulled me up to her. as soon as she did this i began waking up but she pulled me more tightly to her as if trying to keep me in the dream. everything was going black but i could feel her all around me.

She then began whispering in my ear. the effect was so startling that her words and breath seemed to pleasantly cut into my skin and swim through my entire body making me shiver with throbbing sexual passions.

Her words "You're hands are shaking (i saw an image of my hands when she said this). You are at a VERRRY vulnerable moment right now.... Don't be afraid of me."

i woke up.

Later on in the day i had the opportunity to try and WILD. I only heard a voice. and old woman saying. "GO THERE! ok, ok"

Finally made it. Saved the best for last.

Good to see you're having tremendously vivid dreams. I'd rather have one good long really vivid and meaningful dream than a series of short seemingly pointless ones.

Good job. Keep DJ-ing. Your recall will only get better because of it.
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I had some messed up nights recently. all due to me trying to quit smoking. Day 5 now! WHOOOHOOO!.

The Dream: the End of this chapter:

I was living in a small apartment building with a girl for what seemed like months. we lived in separate apartments. Every day i would Talk to her and try to get into her apartment. she never allowed me in. I

One night i snuck out of where i lived and decided to stand outside X's window. i stood outside her building
i spotted her garbage Bin. curiosity got the better of me and i decided to rummage through it. I kept finding things that seemed to anger me. the more i sorted through it the angrier i got.


I then saw a flash come from her window. i saw purple lines of holographic energy swirling in her room and emanating from her bedroom window. I saw holographic animals jumping out her window. I knew i was seeing her dream.

I yelled into her open window "Hey you, wake up! you're dreaming". i knew this would disturb her sleep and she would angrily get up. I watched Her dream dissapear and her light come on. i then ran away.


I ran into where i lived. it turned out to be an orphanage and a horde of angry nuns were yelling at me for waking up the children. they wanted me out. the children were running around.


I pleaded with the Nuns and told them i was sorry and that it would never happen again. they wouldn't have it. i walked outside and it was suprisingly Daytime already. I walked down the street li. I craved a ciggarrete. i reached into my jacket pocket and realised i had Run out of niccorrete gum. I knew if i kept walking i would eventually run into someone with a ciggarrete.


I just kept walking. I was extremely upset and felt guilty for allowing myself turn into a Creep. i cam apon an intersection where a group of tourists were boarding a double bus. i was jealous of them, they were on holiday and enjoying themselves. and here i was with no home and had burned every bridge behind me. i decided to walk until i could no longer walk anymore.

That was a very interesting and unusual dream. Good luck with this situation. I hope you can find some closure.

And also here is some moral support with your quitting smoking. You're strong, you can do it.

That was a very complex and revealing dream. X sounds like she was more of a hinderance than a help. Good to see you reached a definitive decision in regards to her. Best of luck with moving on. And good luck with quitting smoking. If I could do it anyone can.

LOL! it think you entirely missed the point Vex.

In no way was X a hinderance. if you had actually READ the entire dream, You would know that i discovered some amazing life lessons from this interaction. I mean WHO ELSE could inspire such a long and amazing dream? It wasn't X that i was responding to but my own personal history. I mirrored my past onto that person. When we all get angry at someone, it's really not THEM we are angry at, It's ourselves morbidity that we mirror onto that person. The trick here is to take nothing personal. My mistake was to take everything personal. That dream taught me that it wasn't personal. It was my OWN Bullshit that got in the way. Keep in mind smoking is an emotional supressant, I've smoked for more than half my life, so that's Half a life of emotions that i have to sort out. And i sorted out a BIG chunk that very night. Whatever the case i hope X doesn't hold a grudge.

anyway the next day i felt great. Even tho my day at work was shitty, i got screamed at by the supervisor, people were smoking all around me and it made me sick. yet i went about my day happy as ever. Royce even pulled me aside and said he noticed a huge improvement in my work ethic. The supervisor who screamed at me earlier liked how i didn't get phased by his screaming. He actually noticed i was working better too and said i would go far.

Got some sage from Royce's Girlfriend later on that day and cleansed my room of all negative energy. i even put a smoke seal on the door for 3 days to keep anyone out. Next morning my roomates mentioned they felt extremely ill at ease when trying to open my bedroom door.

I spent a lot of time in my room that night just playing guitar and reading. pretty soon i felt SOOO sleepy.
i fell into the deepest sleep i have had in years.

2 tiny dreamas:

message: i was reading a message from X. i don't remember what it said but the general feeling i got from it was that she really Is a nice person.

Computer: I was smudging (sage cleansing) the computer i always use in my roomates room. what i noticed was that it was actually his room and every detail was vividly in place.

Last night no dreams.

Don't remember much from last night. i had a feeling of more X dreams. It's seems my efforts to get her out of my dreams have been rather futile :(

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I saved one just for you.

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aww thanks. Delicious :content:

i had 3 dreams: 2 with x, one was in toronto and the other was somewhere else.
3rd dream i was talking to dan, my roomate.


Edit: I consullted a spiritual friend regarding the Matter of x.

she had to say this about what i did:

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well, i don't understand why you want her out... but that's up to you really.. i just don't see why and wonder about where the motive is really coming from.. something that even you yourself claim was so good for you.. you have kicked out... ? questionable.. but hey.. to each their own right?

if it's just that you need some time and space to sort your self out.. then you could tell her that instead of leaving it that you suddenly up and kicked her out for no real reason..

anyway.. i hope you get it settled.. and that you are not playing into something else's intentions... kicking out that which is good for our growth is self destructive.. we all do it so it's nothing uncommon... but.. i hope you take time to really examine your motives and exactly why you would pass on something that was really good and working for your awareness... i'm sure you'll land wherever it is you are trying to go... regardless of whatever road you take to get there..[/b]

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She's entirely right. I effed up with my actions. I sabotaged something that could have been wonderfull. But oh well, i burned that bridge behind me. at least i know now not to be a fool in my future interactions with people. X made it clear to me yesterday that she doesn't even wanna stay as friends. i know it's all my fault for being such a dumbass. I at least give her permission to find me in my dreams just so she can kick the shit outta me.

Mirror: i was lucid for a few seconds and looking into a mirror. my left eye was extremely bloodshot

dream 2: i was trying to WILD and i was dreaming i was in the living room with Dan and James, they were arguing about stuff.

then i really woke up and found out they were still up arguing.

i lost my recall. i had set my alarm for 3 am for WBTB but i must've shut it off and not fully had woken up.

i just had a few flashes of dreams.

i dunno why my my recall has gone down considerably this past week.

ok Still very little dream recall.

i Heard more of the Dream voices that Twoshadows talks about. As i was drifting off i heard " Don't take a picture of my snake. that's MY snake"

nothing to recall. i woke up feeling a cold indifference towards X. which is good because i think my obsession is almost completely gone.

on the plus side i got another adoptee :bigteeth:

Tuesday:

Guitar: I was outside a large building with royce. We were leaving his truck in a parking lot. He left and i waited by his truck. His truck was still on and started rolling away on it's own. I ran after it and opened the side door. The truck moved faster and i was going to fall out. but i managed to swing my feet into the truck.

I was gonna foot the brake but it was heading towards a wall. i turned the steering wheel just in time and then footed the brake.

Later on inside the building, i was in a room with royce. He was telling me how to use his paint gun. He then left the rooma nd i tried out his paint gun. it didn't work, the consistency of the material was off so i stopped before i could do more damage.

I vaguely remember being in a few other room with people in them. I also walked in a few hallways with people in them and i was talking but i don't remember much.

I found a room to my liking because i heard familiar music coming from it. There was a man with long brown hair playing guitar. He was playing my favorite clean guitar section from Wuthering Heights. Longing for the woods pt.2 http://wuthering-heights.dk/sounds/l..._the_woods.mp3 He was doing an excellent job of it and seemed to do his own variations on the themes.

And so started my 2 day bus trip.

The bus was noisy and shaky but i didn't stop me from sneaking a few dreams into my recall.

Blond on a boat:

I was on a small pleasure cruise boat talking to a nice blond woman in a pink sweater. I was seducing her and we both agreed to hook later on that night.

Her: you do know this is only a one time thing right?

Me: of course!

Her: This means you and I will never see eachother again after tonight.

Me: Yeah that's fine with me. I just want to enjoy your company for tonight.

Her: *smiles* GREAT!

She kisses me on the cheek. and hands me her room #.

I go to my cabin and check my email. I already got five emails from her. I light a cigarette and go to read them but it appears i also have messages from another girl. I check them out and it turns out to be an ex of mine, she sended me pictures of herself and she looked ridiculously obese. and tried to make herself look cool with a goth look. I wasn't amused.

By that time it was time to fulfill my date for tonight. I make sure i look and smell good and leave my room.

2. Academic job:

I was in a room with desks Dan and Chris were watching me write my work. I keep thinking "My job has nothing to do with academics why am i here?"

I had to go pee so i got up to relieve myself. Dan and Chris said, "What are you doing? When you're working you just can't take a bathroom break on OUR time."

Flustered i said "You gotta go you gotta go. sheesh!" I wanted to pull out my whanger right there and piss on their floor. but instead i just sat down and continued to write.

During the time X (what;s she still doing in my dreamsss AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! GTFO of my head!!) seems to appear and dissapear at times in the dream just observing what i'm doing. doesn't speak, just watches and dissapears.

At break i went downstairs i talked to chris. He was telling me that i was actually doing a good job and he was just teasing me earlier. I thanked him and bummed a smoke off him. I hid it because Royce was walking around the corner.

I went back upstairs and spotted X again. She was wearing something that didn't suit her. something green and unnapealing. I ignored her and went back to work.

Thursday.

I was still on the bus for yet another night. Not only did i Have an LD but i accomplished the first task of the second gate of dreaming.

I finally had a double seat to myself. me being small i curled up comfortably in a half fetal postition. i put my headphones on and began listening to a monotonous shamanic drumming cd designed to put you in an altered state of conciousness. I began listening and soon i started seeing HI. i saw my hands a few times.
suddenly the cd was ending. i had 25 minutes unnacounted for. i figured i must have fell asleep so i turned of my CD player and put it in the net in front of me. I drifted off to sleep instantly.

My double at the second gate.:

I was suddenly standing in front of myself. I sensed i must be dreaming. I had absolutely ZERO internal diologue. We were standing with our left sides in eachothers periphials. WE both stared straight ahead and held the veiw of eachother in our periphials. I knew if we made eye contact with our left eyes we would both die. I sensed i needed something from him. I knew i could get it if i was about 10-12 ft. away from him we would both live through the encounter.

Suddenly i was much farther away from him. precisely the spot i willed myself to go! i had a full view of my Double. he looked like me in every way. He wore my leather jacket and shirt. he stood with the same posture as me. EVERY detail was in place. But his eyes were different. we still had no eye contact but i could see a look in his eyes. Simply they were cold and indifferent with complete lack of pity. If i had seen this in my normal state of awareness i would probably pass out of fright. but lack of internal diologue eliminated any possibility of being frightened.

I sensed i was in my room. I saw nothing and then i experienced something completely incomprehensible to me. What i experienced can't be explained ina rational way because A: there were no thoughts. B: the sensations seemed to be a part of my body but seperate from me at the same time. i will do my best to explain what i saw

I saw a mirror in front of me. I was lying down in my fetal postion. I couldn't see it but i could sense it with my body. i knew it had a wood frame with grooves i the frame. it was like my body sense was seeing for me instead of my eyes. I then saw a silhouette of my double in the mirror. the second i focused one of my body senses on him i began to feel a tremendous pressure on my ears and then they popped. That was the first time something from dreaming made me feel something in my physical body. I focused my attention again and Again i felt the exact same pressure for a second and then my ears popped. I kept popping my ears with this method on purpose several times until i woke up.

i was back on the bus again.


Dream2 Blue beach: I was on a beach by a hotel resort. everything was shaded blue i had in my hands some drawings. They were of me and X from my unmentionable dream i had of her a month earlier. They were well drawn but revealed nothing interesting. I went to my apartment and began updating my dreamjournal on DV. for reasons incomprehensible to my i scanned the drawings and was gonna post them in my DV. I posted them with my entries and then thought "WTF??????? why did i just do that? I'm sick this situation already why would i do something to make it worse?"

i hurredly tried to delete the post with the drawings. i couldn't find the delete option. instead i got a buncha useless options not even relevant to anything relating to a forum post.

one little clipit of a dream:

Jen was lending me $40!

Wow, that double at the second gate sounds a lot like astral projection. Impressive, man.

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yes, the method i practice has a lot to do with Astral type stuff.

one tiny snipit again.

Twoshadows: All i remember was having a convo with twoshadows about "The second attention".

Wow...that is an interesting and complex dream.

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That must have been very strange. I don't remember ever having a "Double" dream of myself.

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Ooo.... :shock: Did you figure out why that was?

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I think that is interesting. So you had no internal dialogue throughout the entire dream?

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Very creepy. I don't ever want to see myself this way. In retrospect, do you find it frightening.... or fascinating?






I still feel like I'm a little fuzzy on the different "gates" and different tasks at the gates.

If I remember right, the "first gate" is finding your hands and keeping them from changing and stablizing your environment. Is that right?

And here is what I found about you talking about the second gate, Was there more--did I miss it? I'm still only slightly recovered from everything. I've probably missed all kinds of things.

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The Second Gate of Dreaming: Pick a specific place, another dream and go there. NOT to be confused with false awakenings.

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And I noticed that you did that in this dream. But also is there a part of the second gate that has to do with seeing yourself?

I feel like I am lacking the knowledge to give this dream a proper analysis. But regardless, it is a very interesting dream. And maybe you can fill me in a little. :)

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Well, i use to read a lot of creepy books based on shamanism from ancient mexico. and i read somewhere that to become face to face with your dreambody or double would mean death. I'm not saying that i beleive all this crazy stuff, but none the less i find it interesting, interesting enough to see for myself what's what.

But basically a persons double is their dream/astral body. everytime a person dreams outside of thier head into the astral plane, or someone elses dream they are in thier dreambody. The dream body is supposed to be able to retain it's awareness when you aren't present in it. It is aware of you but not always the other way around. Supposedly it can travel around the world in the blink of an eye.

I don't really know enough myself to explain what's what. i mean, if you have a dream of me how can you tell the difference between your version of me, and my astral body travelling to your dream? it's rather impossible to tell or even ponder LOL.

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Yes, everything that I did was very instinctual. it was like i had the unability to second guess myself. it's also the kind of state some martial artists try to achieve because without internal diologue obstructing their view what's left? perception and decisive action.

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A bit of both. I mean, months ago i managed through meditation to enter a state where it felt like i was THAT person. it didn't feel like me at all. i had no desires for anything, a complete lack of pity for myself or others. but what was also interesting was that the state was also void of negative intentions - even though i was indifferent i didn't seek to harm anyobody or anything.

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I still feel like I'm a little fuzzy on the different "gates" and different tasks at the gates.

If I remember right, the "first gate" is finding your hands and keeping them from changing and stablizing your environment. Is that right?

And here is what I found about you talking about the second gate, Was there more--did I miss it? I'm still only slightly recovered from everything. I've probably missed all kinds of things.
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right on about the tasks. Keep in mind tho that the excercises are mere drills, the results and knowledge accumulated from those drills is specific to every individual and in some cases a very personal matter.

Why my double was present i don't know. but i can speculate that i started the drill task due to circumstance:
i was facing death. had it been another dream, i might've forgotten my task and flew instead. this all sounds wierd... i can hardly believe this myself. i don't know what to think about this stuff sometimes LOL

in any case i hope all this talk doesn't scare you away from trying the gates. really it all comes down to belief.

Dreams from Sunday night.

Gold Specks: I was in a strange reality. i was floating in a white space that seemed to go on forever. in this space were gold specks, they were so small. but i had a feeling there was something significant about them.

then i was a black space floating around. i saw in the distance two candle like shapes. they were glimmering and emiting an amber glow. I thought that they were my 2 DV adoptees. i floated toward them because i wanted to say something to them. As i got closer another candle like shape appeared behind me. it was trying to keep me from getting to them. i tried to ignore it and turned again towards the 2 other shapes. i suddenly got dizzy and couldn't move any farther. The shape behind me was causing the dizziness. when i gave in and turned towards the other shape. i woke up.

Old Indian: i was sitting in a cabin somewhere talking to an old Indian man. i forget what we were talking about but he calmly pointed at the window behind me and said, "Look".

there was a huge tornado behind me.


*curious: I've never had a tornado dream before.



One dream.

someones esles lucid:

I was reading someones dream journal. the person had a lucid with me in it. i could see my name in it but i couldn't read anything else.

DAMNIT! i wanted to know what that dream said!

As i was falling asleep i kept seeing HI: people kept turning to look at me.

one major dream:

Unconditional: I was in a strange place, it was dark and i was crawling over all these strange boxes.
out of nowhere a young girl grabs me and hugs me. she was wearing a yellow sweater. i was shocked at first but she wouldn't let go. i finally hugged her back after my shock. we kept hugging for minutes it seemed like. it was nothing sexual or anything, it felt really comforting. it was more like an emotional release.
after a few minutes she let go and dissapeared.

Good recall the past couple nights.

Dream 1: Wuthering Heights:

I was sitting in a room with my brother Art. i had the Brand new WH disc. i noticed it had a live disc so i put it on!

The music sounded so different. the singer was by far different and these weren't the song that i knew. but it was by far the most incredible music i have EVER heard. i wish my recall was good enough so that i could remember some of the arrangements and sound them out with a midi program.

Dream 2: Leading the ravens: I was in a truck with Royce, we were driving to a huge city. There was a flock of ravens flying above us and with us. they formed a perfect V. i had the feeling that our truck path was leading the ravens.

Dream 3: I was getting dropped off in some part of a large city with Dominic. I knew the area well and i was telling Dominic which places to avoid, and which places were good to hang out.

Dream 4: Wet feet:

My dad dropped me off at some mall. i went inside and took off my shoes. The hallways and stores were practically empty. i heard a crowd in the distance down a hallway so i walked towards the sounds.

Suddenly i saw these horses running down the hallway. they were going so fast that i had to move out of the way from being trampled. when they passed i looked down the hallways again and i saw a horse cairrage coming. it was going slow but i was frightened from almost being trampled so i ran.

"Shhhhh! be quiet and walk!" said the man in the horse buggy. i slowed my past but still walked fast. "slow it down" he said again. i realised my movements would excite the horse.

I made it outside and greeted my dad. it was raining. He asked if he could borrow $100. but i saw he had money in his hand already. i saw a $50 and a few 20's. He pointed at my feet and asked where my shoes were? i suddenly remembered i left my shoes inside. my feet were soaked and i never even noticed. they weren't cold tho, rather warm.

Dream(s) 5: these dream were semi lucids. meaning i was kind of awake and in these dreams at the same time. Someone in my apartment was making noise and kept waking me up leaving me half in these lucids.

A. X: i was in a room trying to enter the dream so i could look at my hands. X barged in through the door and started screaming at me. i knew this was a lucid and frankly she was hindering my dreaming attention. i pulled out a gun and shot her in the head. that shut her up. but i woke up.

B. Wall of Jen: i was staring at a wall. Jen's face popped out at me and started rambling and saying all sorts of crazy stuff. her face was so close to mine that if i pursed my lips i could kiss her. this made me uncomfortable so i took a few steps back but the wall of jen was the same distance. i felt myself move but it was as if the wall moved with me or really i was stationary. as it turned out i was moving my physical head back instead of moving my dream body. i woke up when i backed my head into my wall and woke up.

C. Art: i was in the same room where i had shot X earlier. My brother barged in through the door and was trying to tell me about all his stupid sayings he came up with. I was trying to dream damnit! so i told him kindly to go away and leave me alone. And he ACTUALLY left without a word. which never happens in real life. But his actions were of no avail: my alarm sounded as soon as he left.

I have Assigned myself some specific goals and lucid task to work on in the next few weeks.

Primary lucid task: Next time i see X in a dream. become lucid and voice my intent to her to never appear in my dreams again. Sorcerers say that to voice an intent in a dream becomes permanent so i hope this will keep such hinderances out of my dreams. 'cause frankly i still dream of her more than anything else which wakes me up and keeps me from going back to sleep. Then all the chaotic thought processes rise to the surface again.

Secondary lucid task: Work on the first two gates, Refining the drills of the gates until they are second nature. Then follow a scout to it's realm.

3rd: Distinguish the shapes and colors of my allies and use them in dreaming. (might've already done this in the Gold Specks dream)

4th: Taste Twoshadows's halloween cookies (even though halloween is over they still look tempting)

Dream 1: Jail: I'm watching a scene in an outdoor field of a top security prison. Aman is up against a firing squad He's begging and pleading for his life. The Warden is obviously corrupt and makes up the most meaningless excuses to kill him. heverbally abuses the man until he's in tears. the Guards raise their guns to the man to shoot. I wake up.

Dream 2: Chillin with the vampire lestat:

I'm in a park during the day time. I'm sitting at a bench with Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt. they are in their costumes and makeup from Interview with the vampire. The whole dream i just sit and chill with them. we talka bout all sorts of crazy stuff while kids line up to get thier autographs.

Dream 3: DAMNIT! i can't recall this one my keyword in the notepad says "Girl" perhaps i should be more specific next time.

Dream 4: Blocked on MSN: I'm on MSN and i see X sign in. i ignore it for a moment and then curiosity gets the better of me and i try to send her a message. i can't get through it says she blocked me. i get upset: haven't really talked to her in 2 weeks and now she's avoiding me like the plague. I don't understand, i know she would say something and tell me just to stay away, but she won't even do that. this angers me more and i want to smash my computer. i ddon't Understand what i did to make her act this way.

when i woke up i decided to voice my intent to no longer have such dreams. I hope to eventually forget i ever knew a person named "X"

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Hey, cool... Just have your mind change them into the shape of a turkey or acorn or something else Autumn-ish. They'll taste just as good.

And check it out-- as of this very moment we both have 404 posts.

OK! crappy recall this week. i seem to be missing a post in my DJ???? maybe just bad memory.

from tueseday night:

Robert Rosen: yet ANOTHER dream where x appears. can't remember the specifics but i was supposed to meet her at court. i said "whatever" and wnet to my old Highschool.

i saw my old friend Robert R. we were hanging out with some of his friends. we went to his apt. building. we were in this purely silver elevator going up. then we got out and Robert had to go somewhere but i stayed with his friends. me and these guys boarded another elevator even more shiny than the first. It turns out his friends despised him - they were talking behind his back.

Tool Concert: Finally the day came where i was able to see Tool live. I think i was in vancouver and at my condo i was waiting for a ride with someone.

they were really late and i was getting ancy to go. i finally left on my own and hitched a ride to the place where the concert was held.

Wednesday night: this week i started a Hypnosis induction course by Mark Cunningham (Major Mark) - a well known figure in the NLP based seduction community. this course isn't really Seduction related but more on how to take control of your life. anyway it must've had some effect on this dream. i breifly remember in one of the inductions i did before bed something about waking up with your personal theme song stuck in your head!

Jukebox: in the dream i was at a jukebox selecting songs to play. the jukebox had all the rare metal bands that i like. i selected the song "hell is thy home" by Gamma ray.

when i woke up i had the same song stuck in my head for hours.

* idea: next time i see a jukebox in a dream, see if i can select a song that i would write so i can get it stuck in my head the next day. i actually might be able to contribute a song to the "lucid song writing exp."

next dream "Frigid": i was kissing some red headed girl, she was inexperienced and didn't know how to kis back - just kept them puckered and frozen:(

Thursday night: The two right eyes: this may have been an astral one. but in the dream i was talking to my old room mate "james". i was looking into his eyes as we were talking and in his right eye appeared another eye in his eye socket. it was like he had 2 eyes on one eye ball. i sat there stunned looking at his 3 eyes.
he said to me "Rob! you just look like you've seen a ghost. What's up?"

i went to tell him but i woke up.

That entire astral projection thing is pretty cool, I'm jealous you got to the second gate (now that I understand what it is).

There's a lot more to this world than what you see in front of your own two eyes. :D

Keep up the recall, some of your dreams are pretty interesting. I laughed at the semi-lucid where you shot your X in the face. :lol:

hehe thanks! and i agree there is much more to this world than what we can physically sense. our internal talk limits our perception to only our physical being. that's why i recommend to turn off your internal diolougue before bed. it makes your dreams much more bizarre.

and yeah my last two dreams were WIERD. kind of astral related.

on thursday night i dreamt i was reading someones dream journal. it read something like:

In this dream i was being followed by a presence. it was a Wind like force that kept chasing me. At times i could actually see it. it looked like a shadow man of some sort.

When i woke up i still felt this presence. my dog noticed it too and began barking and chasing it even tho it looked like he was chasing nothing. I determined this presence couldn't take physical form, yet seemed to be able to knock things over.

then last night's dream

Mel: I was at Melena's house with her on her bed (she's someone i'm having a bit of a fling with). we're about to start making out but suddenly i feel something in the pit of my stomach. i somehow know it's a presence. M notices it too and start freaking out. we try sitting on different spots on the bed (which is HUGE BTW) and certain spots seemed to be void of this presence - like it couldn't get through to the spots. but sometimes it would break through and i would get the same sick feeling in my stomach.

Those are interesting dreams. Both are about a "presence".

So you didn't notice anything after you woke up, did you? :shock: :bigteeth:

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actually no, i was too hungover to pay attention to anything :upsidedown:
I dunno what to think about this "presence".

oh and congrats on adopting CB! if my recall doesn't get any better soon you might have 2 adoptees on your hands :bigteeth: as my old adopter seems to busy nowadays.

I'll pop some b6 tonight!

Extra note: I set up to dream together with my old highschool friend Kera.

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Yeah...it's kind of cool being an official....what's the word...adopter...? There has gotta be a better word than that. :?

And you know you can ask me questions anytime you want. I just don't know if I am any more advanced than you are. But we can learn and improve our LDing skills together. Keep each other motivated...

I had a restless sleep last night. i don't remember sleeping much but i did manage to sneak in a semi-vivid dream or so. i had a few others but forgot i just know that at least one involved Twoshadows and ColdBlooded. PLUS the vivid dream involved Twoshadows. anyway here they are.

Objects in the sky: i was in a truck with a few people. we were driving a long some faintly wooded area, reminded me of some parts of b.c. In the sky i saw the moon during the daytime. what was perplexing was that the moon seemed REALLY big. almost as if it were super close to earth. I almost thought it was on a collision course.

But then the "moon" turned on it's axis and revealed it was a Disc like shape flying in the sky. My first thought was "U.F.O.", but then it started floating like an air balloon. i looked at other parts of the sky and saw hundreds of the most amazing and unusal air balloons. none of them read "Remax" lol. i wish i could draw them.

All nighter at Twoshadows': this may have been a continuation of the previous dream i dunno.

We arrived in the vehicle at this house. i don't recall seeing T but i KNOW she was there. my roomie Bill was there as well. for some reason he started mowing the lawn. it was getting dark but he insisted on doing yardwork for some reason. (this is actually something Bill might do lol, he's pretty wierd). anyway i go inside the house. i don't remember much but i know twoshadows was in her room. i was in a small computer room checking my stuff. and T's Mom was in the lving room or kitchen. T's mom would check on me every now and then. i would ask her what T was doing in her room, as she said earlier we would do something.

Her mom kept saying strange things like i didn't have permission to hang out with T. and i kept thinking "then why was i invited in?". plus she was a nice lady and made sure i had coffee and stuff. this was all kinda wierd and I shoulda noticed a few of the signs it was a dream. Bill was still in the yard doing yardwork by the time the sun. i ended up leaving first thing in the morning.

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Yeah...it's kind of cool being an official....what's the word...adopter...? There has gotta be a better word than that. :?

And you know you can ask me questions anytime you want. I just don't know if I am any more advanced than you are. But we can learn and improve our LDing skills together. Keep each other motivated...
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for sure. I remember reading something in the "adoption" tutorial that skill level isn't always a requierement. BUT, i guess your right, we are at a similar level. I'm only jealous of the regularity of LD's you have.

and yes, your right "adopter" is a terrible term. it can lead to all sorts of distracting and annoying roleplays and innuendo's. at least it did with my last adopter. i think we were more interested in the dumb talk rather than learning to LD better. that's why i had to find and look for something else after a while. but i did learn a lot from my last adopter such as the Key word system for dream journalling.

But yeah, i think a better term would be "DV coach" would be better, because after all that's what adoption is about - getting newbies aquainted with DV and coaching them pertaining to their goals as dreamers.

you seem to understand that aspect well, so that's why i mentioned it. Plus you're always around my DJ which helps. the "official" title is entirely up to you. :)

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Haha. There is a huge "Remax" balloon that is usually out in one of the office lots near my job, so that's really funny because, at first, I thought it was just a commercial concept, but seeing a Real Remax balloon is like "Wow.....wtf??" :chuckle:

And yeah, I always thought "Adopter/Adoptee" seemed strange when using it in conversation. I prefer "Tutor and Student" heh. Has a better ring to it. :wink:

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Thanks, Mom, I have no idea who that Ranma guy is. Probably some kind of weirdo. :lol:

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And I'll tell you what I was doing that night. I was dreaming I was being chased through the streets of Southern California by a stupid hippo. :wtf:

Yeah I like "DV Coach"....or "Tutor and Student" works well, too.

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Thanks for the compliment! you can't get any wierder than I :) Oh and tell your mom (in your dreams) that "Ranma" is a good guy :wink:

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Sounds a tad more exiting that what i was dreaming of that night!

one dream

Finding Mel: I was at a Tim Hortons. after i got my coffee i went to a payphone and pulled out M's #. i then noticed Ron and Dave were walking into the coffee shop, so i stopped and talked to them for a while.
They started arguing amongst themselves like they do whenever they get drunk, so i decided to just leave.

I looked at the paper with M's number and noticed and address to where she lived. some apartment building , 25th floor. I walked around until i found the building. The elevator ride up was long - people kept going in and out of the elvator and couldn't decide which floor to go to. When i finally got to the 25th floor. i tried to find the apartment number door, but couldn't. i looked at the paper again to see if i was in the right place, but the paper read 27'th floor. i looked at the numbers above the elevator door and according to the numbers there was no 27th floor.

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Sure thing. Next time I see her in a dream--which is fairly often, I'll tell her. But I probably won't remember unless I'm lucid.

Oh well, I guess I'll just have to get lucid... :)

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Well you weren't there! haha!. I guess your dream mom is kinda cool tho. :wink:


oh yeah on wednesday i was at my FWB's (friend with benefits) house making out on the couch. During which my digital watched chimed the hour, so i pulled back and held my nose and said out loud" Am I dreaming?"
To which she gave me some messed up look, i just shrugged and went back to it.

anyway dream from wednesday night: I was back at Melena's finishing what we had started earlier that night (i had to cut it short due to work early in the morning). anyway in the dream she pulled back and asked if we should set up the shared dreaming thing? i didn't answer and kept kissing her. she kept asking me over and over but for some reason i couldn't speak. she then asked "God don't you ever talk?"

Thursday night: popped some B6.

Gov. building: I was in a strange room in a building. The receptionist asked me for ID so i showed her my card. i then sat down and began filling out a form. there was an annoying lady next to me - every few minutes she would turn to me and say, "What are you doing here? Do you have verification?"
I kept ignoring her and then she was more insistent.

"You're not supposed to be here" she accused me, "what's the password?"

Trevor: during some HI i saw trevors face and then entered this dream. may have been a Dreamwalk.

I was in a messed up apartment building. there was a bunch of half dead people roaming the halls.
I went into a room and saw Trevor there. he started freaking out at me so i began smashing him in the head with a blunt object. there were a bunch of people in the room saying random things.
after a while i saw him unconcious. so i started crying. (I must have been a woman in this dream). and suddenly i was normal again. I noticed he had a bunch of stitches in his head - he looked sort of like Frankenstein.

i thought since he was waking up he would kick my ass. but he stared at me through half closed eyelids and nodded as if to say "it's ok it wasn't your fault". i then helped him get up and we left the apartment.

Wrong donut: just before this dream i vaugely remember another dream in which i was talking to a black guy that looked like a cross between lawrence fishbourne and the dude from Candyman. he was warning me about the dream scouts and kept telling me i should really practice the first two gates so that if i go toa scouts realm, I'll be soberheaded. eitherwise they'd be prone to trick me. I got the feeling that this guy may have been one of the "Death Defiers" mentioned in a CC book.

In this dream i was in a big indoor mall. i was walking through a bunch of stores. I know this was a super long dream. but all i remember is walking along this long hallway.

I was passing some prissy teen girls that were about 14-15. As i walked past them one of them stepped on my heel. "Watch it" i quickly said.

the girl then began yelling at me. i just kept walking and she kept taunting me so i pushed her over backwards. i began walking up steps to the higher level and she went after me again. i pushed her back again and she sprained her ankle. I laughed and kept walking. i then saw a woman that looked like Courtney Love rush to the girls aid and giving her shit for being so rude to me. I thought "is that her daughter Frances Bean Cobain??? No Way! I read her myspace page and i know she wouldn't act so spoiled"

I then found an indoor Tim Hortons. i walked in and ordered a large Double-double. A doghnut in the stand caught my eye. Double chocolate! how could i resist! so i asked the lady for it. i looked at the doughnut again and it looked different somehow. The lady said that they were all out and what i was really looking at was Shisquabob (however that was spelt???). i said "Really? hand it to me". she took it out of the stand and it indeed looked like shishquabob. but when i held it in my hand it was a doughnut again.

i woke up.

*note: the strange object may have been a scout.

Last nights dreams

Dream 1: i was with a fat guy outside of a house.

Dream 2: I was at Jen's house. i was waiting to go on a date with someone. they were supposed to show up at 6. i looked at my watch and it was 6:22

i know i had a dream last night but i forgot it! i guess it counts for the fact i was a bit TOO busy last night :wink:

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A bit too busy as in too hammered? :lol:

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I was too busy hammering away indeed!

Damnit i don't have my one keypad with me opf the dreams i had monday but i got last nights dreams right here!


Strange house:

This was a long dream. i don't remember every detail but. the first thing i remember is that I'm in a room with Twoshadows, either watching t.v. or doing a craft of some sort. we were having a nice conversation but i don't remember any of it. some things happen that i don't remember but i know Oneironaut shows up, hangs out for a while and then leaves with T.

at some point i'm outside the house somewhere and then i go back in. I got into a room with a bunch of mirrors. i look into one and notice that my eyes are messed up. my right eye is looking up and my left is looking to the left. it's like i have two extremely lazy eyes. even when i look straight ahead they are pointing the other way. my dad pops his head in the door of the room and says "Hey boy, quit gawking in the mirror we gotta go". i told him i'll come but first i gotta use the washroom. i look around in the room and realise there isn't a toilet.

I exit the room into a larger room the size of a school gynasium. i see another door across the room so i walk towards it. as soon as i go to open the door i get this huge spine tingling chill down my body. i know it's the invisible presence. the presence walks through me again with an even stranger chill. I know it's an Ally, so i get scared and run through the door. i can sense the ally behind me. it keeps chasing me through winding hallways. i still gotta pee and i can't find the washroom.

i think i stop at some and see what the ally wants. it walks through me again and suddenly i remember i had a dream where i was in a mountanous region with Carlos Castaneda and Don Juan, from the shamanism books i use to read. i don't remember all the details but i know that in the dream that i recalled within the dream - i had met with the ally and saw its form. i don't remember what the form is yet. i remember a giant shadow but that's it.

I woke up and tried to Fild. after a few minutes i almost entered a lucid.

slight LD: a room was coming into view. i knew my hands were in front of my face. i saw them suddenly and saw that i was staring at a ceiling with four lines intersecting at one point. i began looking at them systematically. giving a half second glance at my hands and each line. they didn't change but i woke up after 5 seconds

i cursed my luck aloud. then i closed my eyes and held my breath for the count of 3 and relaxed. i suddenly remembered a dream that ihad before4 the two dreams.

A night out:

I was in an outside wooded area at night time. i was exiting a car with some people i think was D, and MSG from DV. this is wierd: i know MSG is a guy but for some reason in the dream he was a girl. i told "her" to go back and look for something.

more dreams later... stay tuned...

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Maybe we went for a speedboat ride? :ohyahbaby:

Hehe @ TS. :wink:

:lmao: at O.

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Haha! me thinks i need to find a course on how NOT to get cockblocked by a dream character :bigteeth:
Nicely done BTW! you should release an ebook :P

Last nights dreams:

Witches feet:

another long ass dream where i only remember a few details. I know my favorite metal band's music was in the background the entire dream.

get this: in the dream i'm at a hotel. east of it is a large frat house and south of it is an old creepy house surrounded by a wooded area. At some point i wind up at the old house.
It's huge as i get lost in the passage ways. At some point i run into and old witch. she decides to torture me by threatening not to show me the exit unless i give her a foot massage. she takes off her socks and reveals these gigantic feet with 10 toes on each foot.

i think "poor hag is just like every other female.... just wants to be pleasured." And since it is one of my goals to be THAT guy i jump at the chance. so i start working on her feet with a perplexing grin thinkin " it won't be long before she'l show me that exit". BUT when she sees i'm actually enjoying massaging her interesting feet she gets mad. i don't know what happened next but i managed to make it out!

MSN: I'm on MSN chatting with X. she gives me a strange link. i click and it's a video of "redneck fights". similar to the "Bumfights" series. my brother walks in while i'm watching this video and starts laughing his ass off. i think "My, these people have such impeccable taste".

Bar: I'm at a bar somewhere in the southern states. and some girl i seem to know pulls me off the ground and sits me on her lap. i can't seem to remember the rest.

Last nights dreams in no particular order

John: i was with my childhood friend John Macvickar. we were just chatting and catching up on old times. I think we were talking about women. he asked me if if i was still a virgin? (i haven't seen him since i was 14 lol. I still remember what he said when he lost his at 16 with a friend of mine that i introduced him too, "it was like fucking a hot dog bun smeared with ketchup" :lol: ). I told him that no, I've done it and in fact studied and more recently began practicing Seduction.

A pretty Gay dream: I was a homo in this dream (not in real life). i was lying in bed and some guy was laying on his stomach, i could see his ass perfectly, i wanted to jump on it. i got up next to him and tried to kiss him but he suddenly got violent and tried to kill me by smothering me with a pillow.

shit... i had a third but can't remember.

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Ahh, good to see another guy on this site who's not afraid to post the grittiest of dreams. :D I hate those homosexual dreams, they're not fun.

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Didn't see that coming. :chuckle:

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Lol i feel sorry for you :blue:

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BAh it's ok! even if i was gay i wouldn't hide it. even tho i am not a homo i resent discrimination againts those people as if their life style is un-holy. first off Attraction isn't a choice. No one can choose thier sexuality. i maen can you choose to suck my dick? or, when you see an attractive woman walking down the street and you instantly think of all the things you would like to do to her, that's not a choice. it's instinctual.


Dreams from today: spent another LOOOOONG night singing karaoke, went to some girls house to do a different type of singing :wink: . again 2 hours of sleep from 5 am to 7 am. went home, showered. and had a long nap.

planes and X: X was giving me a ride to the airport. i had to board the plane from outside but the ramp i had to climb up was too steep for me to climb. i watched the plane take off without me.

Bowl: i was trying to wild a bit. for a few seconds i was looking at a bowl of friut. i was viewing the friut systematically and they all stayed the same shape (i think they were apples)


Wood fort: i was in a wooded area. i think i was a young child. i was climbing these huge logs, some of them were carved and smooth i could ride down them like a slide. there were some people with me but i don't remember who they were.

Downtown: I was downtown Toronto at another one of Snow's seminars (seduction instructor). i was at the specified building but no one showed up.

Virtual Reality: in this dream i spotted incongruous elements but instead of realising it was a dream, i concluded i was in a video game similar to Saints Row, or grand theft auto. The incongruous element was that every character had the same face, even men and women young to old all looked like the same guy.

I realised this when i was driving in a car that looked like the one Sebastian drives in the movie "Cruel Intentions". I was being chased by police. a few cars were on the wrong side of the road (or maybe i was). i i kept swerving to avoid them. i crashed my car over a bridge on purpose (hey its a video game i can't be harmed). under the bridge was a knee high stream and cops were there. i wasn't cuffed but the police officer ordered me to follow him. i did thouroghly knowing i would get away. after he led me up onto the bridge. i just kept looking at all the poeple with the same face. one perspn seemed to stand out, evn though he looked like someone else i felt there was something significant about him.

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When I read that, for some reason the first thing that pops into my mind is us sitting and doing macrame. :chuckle:

Just for the record macrame was popular before my time--but my mom had several macrame planters around the house that she had made in years past.

For those who have no idea what macrame is (most of you, I'm sure), check out this link:

http://www.knotzmade.com/special_hangers_page.htm

And the word is pronounced "macra-may"

Wow twoshadows the name even sounds exicting :shock:

anyway from Sunday night: 10 DREAMS. many involved start trek voyager (my brother bought a season and i was forced to watch 4 hours of it :eek: )

1. Dv forum: i was reading the DV forum. but the color scheme was messed up. it was all black and white. hard on the eyes....

2. AA meeting:

I was at an AA meeting (i don't know why since i only ever been there once). Just before the meeting i ran into an old friend of mine Pat R. we chit chatted a bit, he didn't seem impressed with my lifestyle.
I walk inside and look whos at the table. i see a native girl i used to have a crush on in highschool. i walk past her to get myself a cup of coffee. i get a good look at her and see she's devoloped into a fantastically curvy woman. i keep thinking "feel the lust, feel the lust". (this is a mental seduction thing i do sometimes when i go out. if i'm not in the mood to go around talking to people i try to think and feel as lusty as i can, within the confines of my own mind of course, this puts me in a state that makes me more aggressive so i push myself to talk to people and socialise). anyway i forget the rest of the dream.

3. Voyager dream: Seven of Nine and captain janeway are arguing about something. Janeway uses some cliche against Seven's argument. after some more conversation Seven quips back with her own twist on the cliche and puts Janeway in her place. (wish i can remember the specific diolouge on this one since it was very good!)

4. Water park: I'm in an indoor water park going down this fast water slide. instead of reaching the bottom, the waterslide hits a corner and tries to go up. but alas, i couldn't defy the laws of gravity. i was with some other younger kids and they were getting pissed off. anyway i saw this ladder and climb it until i reach a platform. i decide to ride the slide again so i start walking. Some woman my age walks by and we chat for a minute or so. i can tell she's attracted since she keeps asking questions about me, and if I'll be here long. anyway she walks toward the entrance to the slide, and the kids from before try to talk to me but i run past them.

i spot the woman up ahead and she has her swimsuit completely gone. she looks at me over her left shoulder and winks. knowing what this means i eagerly follow her.

5. second voyager dream:

I'm in a science lab with Tom and Ensign Kim. Kim is freaking out, says he's a clone. apparrently he hates the original KIm and wants to have a talk with him. the REAL Kim walks in and they start arguing.

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at this point i wake up and realise I've recalled 5 dreams. so i make it my goal for the night to keep entering dreams and waking up to see how much more dreams i can recall. I know i had more dreams than this but i can't recall them all. i probably remember having around 12-13 but can only remember details of the rest.

6. 3rd voyager dream: I'm in the mess hall talking with some lady. there's a celebration going on so i'm eating as much snacks at the table as i could.

7. City walk: I'm walking around in a large city that seems to be a cross between calgary and Toronto.

8. Store: I'm in a dept store chasing these thiefs. they knock over shit and steal stuff as they are running. i chase them all the way back through to the back door. when i exit the door i think one points a gun or a knife at me. i see them get into a black car and drive away. I realise I'm at the mall plaza in mission B.C. right where the huge movie theater is. (forget the name of the place maybe CB can refresh my memory)

9. 4th voyager dream.:

in this dream The Voyager crew was trying to assist me with my primary lucid task. i didn't realise it was a dream. anyway in the dream they are trying to chase down X so they can bring her to me, so i can voice my intent for her to stop showing up in my dreams. (note: to voice your intent in a dream is like having your own genie for memory. it is at your command!!!).

Anyway there's a long chase. and She escapes through a giant view screen. i didn't see this because she, and the guards after her were running so fast. i could hardly keep up. I get to the view screen just intime to see two doors shut on it. the next diolouge was so comical that i woke up laughing 'cause it was so silly!

Kim: What's she doing now.


Tuvok (fiddling with some buttons on a computer screen): It appears she is getting some.

Kim: NOOOOO!(at this point i start laughing at their drama). Open the door with your security clearance.

Tuvok: (spits his code) Tuvok override..... It's not working she's blocking us out with an encryption code.

that's when i almost got lucid and woke up laughing. i guess the moral is: don't believe everything you see on t.v. . from what i gathered from watching the show: the Voyager crew can get outta any situation no matter how bad. well... in the dream world..... they suck :yumdumdoodledum:


10th dream: i was shopping in a grocery store. in the background was an eerie two note melody similar to the one heard in "Jaws"

all in all and excellent night in dreaming!




man i hate not having my own pc. gotta update the rest later!

Monday night : no dreams

Tuesday night.

3 dreams

Dream girlfriend: I'm in a basement of a house with some people. I notice a woman around my age, she looks like the snooty type. she keeps telling me we're going out or something. i talk to her a bit more and she seems like a cool gal.

House of Drywall:

I'm at a job site. i walk through a door and into a giant staircase. these stairs were Huge! and they were made of 4x12 drywall sheets that seem curved. they arent nailed to anything.

I spot my brother stranded on one. even though it's a huge staircase it still is a long drop down. The drywall sheet he's standing on is breaking. i run out to rescue him, i have a rope and a harness. he's scared shitless and i calm him down and tell him to tie himself into the harness that I'm attached to. he's still shaking so i use a hypnotic visualisation technique to calm him down. it works!

I see Royce up on the landing, i throw him the rope and he ties it to something secure. i jump off the ledge and royce tells me to start swinging towards him. I'm swinging a while and royce points out that my brother is passed out and my swings were banging him against the wall. i think "shit! forgot about him". somehow Royce gets him first. and he unties my brother. i swing out again for some reason and royce gives me clear instructions to swing, grab onto a ladder and climb up. i do it!

Watchfull eyes: I'm on a street downtown with my new Dream girlfriend and some male friend of hers.
we are looking at posters strung up on a window in a shop. The guys mentions something about being watched. I wasn't sure what he was getting at but i comment on the posters and say something like "yeah, when you take a picture and the person looks right at the camera. when it'd displayed it's like the eyes are always watching you, no matter in what relation you are standing to the painting or photo, they always seem to be looking at you."

The dream GF walks up ahead and window shops somewhere else. Her friend turns to me and says something lame like " So you're hittin that? man i been trying for her for years. props man" I'm not impressed by his lack of respect for his views on women. i ignore his comment and catch up to her. (gotta think of a name for her. or ask her in an LD.)

Thursday night.

Big room: i only remember a snippet of this dream (which was way longer).

I'm in a large corridor. At the end of the corridor is six large doors about 16ft. in height bearing roman numerals. I enter the one that is my room. I can't remember much about this part but I think I'm in bed. I'm pretty sure I'm listening to an MP3 player.

Bad Burger:

I'm in a restaurant eating a burger. I notice it tastes kinda funny so I look and I see only the surface of it is cooked and the rest is bloody. So I put it down.

3 Women:

I'm in the basement of a house and there are these 3 women. They are acting shy around me making eye contact and then looking away sometimes smiling and giggling. I think they either know that I kno a white tiger tantra or they are female sorceresses.

Crazy Trail: I'm riding a bike in a park. I come accross this trail and I start following it. Suddenly I fall of the bike and I look below and see I am at a gigantic ledge with a bunch of wood and vines sticking out. So I climb back to where my bike is. I struggle a bit trying to get it out. But I manage to get it out. And I ride away.

Jay and Steve:

I'm in house that I live in but it also seems to be under construction. My room seems to be in the attic. Wich is strangely accessable by climbing up ropes through a hole in the ceiling. As I climb up and enter my room. I see my old friend Jay in the room.

I don't rembemer much but I'm suddely at Chinook mall with Jay and Steve. We are walking talking about women and we decide to go into a restaurant to have some food. At the table we discuss our different views on seduction. I describe to them my latest realizations and adventures. But they seem critical of what I have to say.

The waitress takes our order. She appears young but when she turns around I notice she's a brunette with long streaks. Her streaks are braided and I think I notice she had grey hair. I continue the conversation with my friends and I realize that they are over analysing everything in their seduction views. I tell them that I am out of alignment with them. And hear my watch beep the hour and I notice that it's the alarm. I can't remember setting the alarm on my watch so I decide to do a reality check.

As soon as I think this the waitress comes by again and asks if I want my coffee re-filled. I say "yes, of couarse!"

She says: " but you already have a full cup." I look down and I see my friends have empty coffee cups but my cup is still full.

Thursday:

Christmas march: i was in a large apartment building of some sort. i remember entering one room where there seemed to be people preparing for some celebration. i was sitting in a chair and the people preparing for the xmas thingy kept tripping over my legs.

suddenly i'm outside the building and i'm sitting in rows apon rows of chairs. there's gonna be a xmas marching band that's gonna go down the row inbetween all the chairs with people.
The marching band comes out by a door close by, they are about to start. someone hands me a snare drum and i start pounding on it rythmically. i set a rythm and someone yanks the drum out of my hands and the band starts marching to a christmas like melody.

i realise that this was a televised event and that i was just on t.v. i know someone is on the other side of the building was watching me intently. I hopw this person saw the shirt i was wearing. but when i looked down my shirt was all dirty and torn. I then just relaxed myself in the chair and closed my eyes.

Friday:

Another Gay dream: similar to the last i'm about to do some guy and this time a middle aged man comes out of nowhere attacks me violently.

Snow: I'm at Steve's apartment (seminar leader). I'm telling him how i'm coming along. i ask him about some of the oral sex moves he teaches. he told me that i already used up all my payment and therefore he couldn't help me further in my questions.

Movie star: I dreamt i had played a small role in a movie. apparently my small role had struck big. i wasn't use to the popularity, it was frightening.

Saturday: Fist of fury: i was learning kung fu from some dude. he was teaching me a repetitious close-hand combat move.

Dream1: too hazy to remember, all i know is that i was lucid, and that Twoshadows was in it. the rest i don't remember:(

Dream 2, New York: i was walking around in NYC just looking up at all the tall buildings.

Dream 3: Highschool: i was in a strange highschool that seemed to be a gigantic hallway. i was looking for X, i knew she was there. but i couldn't find her because she was being elusive. (these dreams are REALLLLYYY getting frustrating :shock: My subconcious seems to have it in for me. )


Dream 4. Running: I was in a large building with a guy. we were goin through all these strange corridors and rooms in a specific manner to get out of the building. when we got outside i was in an alley downton in a big city.

my friend said "crap i forgot something in there we gotta sneak back in"

we go to sneak back in. when we enter the door we hear a ladies voice around the corner. my friend tells me where his thing is and instructs me to run. he says i better not get caught by the lady or else. so i run grab his thing and i run through the corridors and passageways in the same manner. i keep hearing the womans voice behind me and no matter how fast i run it always seems as if she's gaining on me.

Dream 5 action movie: this dream i seemed to be observing a movie. Some guy was trying to get out of a building with a secret document. he was fighting off all sorts of bad guys and there was an awesome elevator scene where he kills a few guys.

note: that might've been a continuation of dream 4 just my perspective changed.

Woke up at 3 am with the WBTB method that TS suggested. to no avail, as soon as i remember the X dream i had a tough time falling back asleep. How can someone i never officially met with leave such a dramatic impression into my subconcious? even though i have succesfully moved on, she still shows up in my dreams every other night. :(

Luckily i had a day off and i got back to sleep after some coffeee and had some more dreams.

Dream 6: Barber shop: i was an assistant at a stylist shop. Me and some guy were working on some young lady's hair. I remember she kept it fairly healthy and it smelled NIIICE!!! i started Kinoing (KINO: Kinesthetic touch) her neck and whispering in her ear about how nice she smelled. for a few minutes we seemed to forget we were in a public place - when i almost kissed her, she realised what was goin on and she motioned me to stop. i did but we kept smiling and winking at eachother across the room.

Dream 7: Back to ontario: me and my whole family moved back to ontario and we were visiting Royce. i went to my old apartment and saw James. he wouldn't even say "hi" to me. he kept giving me a dull look.

Dram 8: I Robot: i was looking in a mirror and i noticed my left eye was peeling off. i began to pull on it and half my left eye tore off, it seemed to be made of plastic. instead of bone and flesh behind my eye there was circutry and metal. i was perplexed for i never knew i was a robot.....

Dream 1: yet another X dream, i knew it was dream coming on so i fought my best not to enter it, took me 3 hours to finally wake up.

laid awake for an hour or tow and had a pretty cool dream.

Dream 2, Child's play:

Remember when we were kids. how the world was large and you could go up to just about anyobody your age and make friends with them? this was that sort of dream.

I was about 8 to 10 years old in a school room with loads of other kids my age. no adults were around so we were going crazy tearing stuff up!

I was rolling around on this huge pile of laundry when a young blond girl caught my eye. her hair went down to her chin and she had these large blue eyes. she caught me looking at her a few time and she started making funny faces at me: bulging her eyes out as if mimicking my stare, at one point she flipped some hair over her face revealing only her right eye and a half smile, i knew she wasn't being mean just silly and friendly.. despite all the other kids I saw her image seemed crystal clear and her features stable. All the other kids weren't stable some kids were male one minute and then female the next.

(note: whenever i have seen a crystal clear image of someone in a dream it usually turns out to be a real astral body. i remember after my first lucid i saw a blonde man on a beach. after i described it to a Nagual he stated it was him and several other people on his forum had all described him the same way in dreaming.
Another time with X i had dreamt i saw a girls face on a t.v. screen with a crystal clear image. a few weeks later she sent me a photo and i saw it was the exact same image that i saw on the t.v.)

anyway i was gonna walk up to her and see who she was but i spotted another girl flying up in the air, our eyes met and we started laughing. she floated down and landed on me. after i pushed her off me i saw that she had changed to a boy, which made me laugh even harder.

at some point i went into a different room. here's where the dream changed dramatically: there were these two handicap kids and they were acting bizzarre. a few of the other kids in the room were creeped out and started crying. as if on cue the handi-twins began to fight and moving faster than the eye could comprehend. My concious mind didn't know what was happening but my body seemed to respond instinctiively by not reacting to them in anyway. in retrospect i know they were Allies and were making themselves known to me.

i yelled to the other kids "Stop being scared that only provokes them further, they respond to your emotions." but the kids couldn't stop crying. The allies seemed to be forming a mass of a violent energy ball. i started to feel scared and the Ally lunged at me. I used the 5 points of attention to calm my nerves down and think more clearly. (5 points of attention: when you are stressed or nervice in a situation. close your eyes, or keep them open. keep your hands extened but close enough so that they remain in your periphials. stare straight a head and withough moving your eyes notice the spot in front of you, where your hands are and focus behind you, pick two other spots. as you do this you will notice a slight shift like your nervousness isn't as strong.) The ball moved away from me.

The front door flung open, and i saw a violent wind blowing down the street. kids ran past screaming and i saw the brightness outside get darker within a matter of seconds. i knew a tornado was coming so i shut the door and turned around. they Kids and the Mass were gone.

I dreamed about you and CB last night. Unfotunately it was the first dream of the night and I never remember as many details from those. So I have no idea what we were even talking about. But still, I'm going to assume our converstaion was something very enlightening and important. :sheepishgrin:

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I dreamed about you and CB last night. Unfotunately it was the first dream of the night and I never remember as many details from those. So I have no idea what we were even talking about. But still, I'm going to assume our converstaion was something very enlightening and important. :sheepishgrin:
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Hey Twoshadows! always nice when you pop by here!

I hope my lucid with you in it was as enlightening..... on second thought maybe it was good i didn't remember, my dream self has been pretty umm active lately. wouldn't wanna embarass myself. :yumdumdoodledum:

Anyway DREAMS!!!

Dream 1: Dan and Steve (different steve):

I was at Dan's house and his brother Steve was there. One of them was at the computer. I was looking at Dan's bookshelf and i noticed he had a final fantasy game that spanned 7 discs. I asked him about it.

My eye caught a large hardcover book with a strange folding in the cover. I carried on the conversation with Dan and Steve. i unraveled the paper cover and i couldn't put it right again. i tried for like 10 minutes and i got frustrated.

Steve started his homo banter at me. i responded with.

me: (in the gayest voice) You know steve there's been something i've been wanting to get off my hairy chest for a long time now!

he starts laughing hysterically at the "hairy chest" thing. i rmember thinking "it's not THAT funny"

Dream 2: I entered a high HI state for a minute or 2. a disembodied voice started talking to me. at first i thought it was what some call the dreaming Emissary, but based on what it said i determined it was my subconcious trying to fuck with me.

i was staring at a wall of ice like diomonds, they looked absolutely spectacular!
it said "The assemblage point (Castaneda's version of Chi energy) can shift rapidly between two specific positions.... I'm only going to tell you this once: X loves you."

The vision then shifted to a woman in dark lighting, her clothes and face were shades of dark blue and green. her hair was extremely long and moving out in all directions. couldn't make out her features.

I woke up and thought "whatever, i don't care anymore" and never gave it a second thought. I heard Dave shifting around upstairs. it was 2 AM. after a few minutes i couldn't sleep so i went upstairs and crashed on the living room floor and talked with dave for a while. i went to sleep there. BIG MISTAKE! the guy talks in his sleep, and quite loudly too! every once in a while he'd wake me up by saying "FUCKIN WANKER! that bitch!" or something incoherent.

i managed to sleep and have a third dream:

I was at Melena's house. We just finished something wonderful and she went downstairs to get me a drink. as i was changing my sock i looked at her sheets and thought "i wonder if she'd be pissed if she found out i did K in her bed???" (never actually did, it was the history of my dream self)

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Hey Twoshadows! always nice when you pop by here!

I hope my lucid with you in it was as enlightening..... on second thought maybe it was good i didn't remember, my dream self has been pretty umm active lately. wouldn't wanna embarass myself. [/b]

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I totally trust you not to "embarrass yourself". :silly: Instead, let's go hike Mt. Everest. I have always wanted to do that without the risk of death.

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I totally trust you not to "embarrass yourself". :silly: Instead, let's go hike Mt. Everest. I have always wanted to do that without the risk of death.
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sounds fun! Just make sure i walk ahead of you. to see you trip whilst hiking ahead of me might lead to all sorts of temptation :ohyahbaby:

But seriously, i love hiking! haven't done that in YEARS since i lived in b.c.

Dream 1: Long dream but i can only remember bit's and pieces.

at first i'm in a large house out in the country. i'm on the 2nd floor with Maria. at some point i go outside and a bunch of musicians are going into a barn with thier guitars and amps. I think my brother tells me to go get my guitar.

i start walking down this street (suddenly i'm in a city). I'm thinking about what i want to do in my next lucid, and then i start thinking about my friends on DV. i get lost in what i'm thinking about i realise i walked a few blocks past where i was supposed to go. but then i don't remember what i was there for.

I wind up back at the house and for some reason i'm sitting in a hot tub eating a hot meal. and then when i'm done my meal i throw it in the water as if the hot tub is the kitchen sink!.

Dream 2: I'm listening to the new Wuthering Heights album. (still don't have it yet, still on order). i remember thinking the live singer was doing a bad job.

Dream 3: I was making out with some blond woman.

Dream 1: all i can remember is sheets of drywall as tall as trees. amd Twoshadows was there. i guess Twoshadows are better than one!

i remember a lot more to this dream. i had the entire sequence in mind while i recalled it around 2 am. as soon as i stood up to turn on my light to write the keywords down all the details vanished from my mind.

Dream 2: Seven of Nine:
http://www.animationalley.com/images.../mpa_trek9.jpg

I'm laying down on a hard metal floor where Seven of nine regenerates. she's beside me with her back turned to me. i can tell she's upset (in the episode i watched last night she had a son who died so maybe this is what the dream her was upset about). i reach over and stroke the hair by her ear and gently touch her neck i whisper in her ear that it will be ok and that she will Adapt. she doesn't seem startled or angry with what i'm am doing. she's rather letting me comfort her. after a while she turns around and goes to kiss me. i wake up... DAMNIT!!!!

Dream 3: Crazy bar:

I'm at a bar that's inside of a giant house. It's karaoke night and i'm picking songs. i ask the DJ if i can do Pantera. He says yes, but i have to dedicate it to someone. I spot J and yell at him "hey man i dedicate the next song to you Son of satan!" (i call him that 'cause he always walks up to me in real life and tells me he hates god and loves satan.... wierdo). for some reason i don't wind up singing.

Later on i go to a different room in the place with my brother. the room is like a giant IMAX. it runs through some intro sequence there the film looks like it's going through space. the screen surrounds us that it seems we are actually moving. (i love this, brings back good memories of Disneyland in Anaheim, i went there when i was 10).

Somehow i wind up in the garage (here's where it get scary) there's some crazy women and a few guys. Thelma is there too. The crazy women are after the people i'm with. i think they are trying to kill us. we find this stair case and hide under its shadows. i'm the best hidden because i'm hiding behind some one. after a few minutes i crawl over to where the other people are hiding a few feet away. I spot this guy with slight goth makeup. i ask him if the crazy ppl are still around. he responds but he has a girls voice. he turns to face me and i see he has Real live bitch tits hanging out from under his half shirt. they aren't implants, but pure female boobs, i notice the nipples are slightly longer than usual :barf: .
to make it worse he/she pull up it's skirt revealing a penis, with a vagina instead of testitcles under neath.
As casually as i can i crawl away to the other side. the Hermabitch pounced me and starts pulling off my pants. i recalled the advice Tony the drywaller gave me in the situation where i would half to sleep with an ugly woman "just pretend it's someone else."

The Thing Who's member is the size of a baby's forearm starts sucking me off until i get hard. i pretend it was Melena. but he/she gets on top of me and i can't fit my thing inside it's vagina. i remember with melena we usually have 30-45 minutes of oral to prime her up for intercourse (very true guys, it tastes bad but well worth it in the end, no resistance, and smooth as a water slide!). anyway i look once more at it's crotch area. i remember thinking " ain't no way IN HELL am i gonna prime THAT thing." I push IT off and IT starts crying.

The problem I have noticed with my DV members dreams is that I have them right after I go to sleep (because I have just been on the board), but since they are the first dream of the night recall is usually really bad.

It's too bad but that has been pretty consistant for me--Lots of DV member dreams, but not-so-good recall. :|

It seems that might be what's happening with you too. :?

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The problem I have noticed with my DV members dreams is that I have them right after I go to sleep (because I have just been on the board), but since they are the first dream of the night recall is usually really bad.

It's too bad but that has been pretty consistant for me--Lots of DV member dreams, but not-so-good recall. :|

It seems that might be what's happening with you too. :?
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yeah, it seems to be that way. i sometimes wake up in the nioght to recall my first dream or so. the dreams later on are always more vivid, perhaps i will try thinking about you and cold blooded later on in the night instead of when i first go to sleep.

anyway, i don't recall any dreams from last night. i may have had one with my FWB's melena. it was her b-day last night.

Dream from last night:

i briefly remember making love to some girl. at some point i'm with her friends and some friends of mine i had just made at the bar in my waking life. They're card magicians. they do this strange trick in the dream where they put a gum like sustance around a candle. the flame sucks all the oxygen but since the substance isn't completely solid it can suck in air but not excape. they effect was that the thing expanded around the candle seven ft wide!

a negative effect was that all the breathable oxygen went inside the bubble. My friends started choking and gasping for air. i could still breathe since it was only a dream. instead of questioning it, to see wether it was a dream or not, i shrug and leave the room. I'm beggining to think my dream self is retarded heh.

later on i was walking by a lake. i think someone was there. but later on i'm walking through a forest and i'm having a psychic conversation with something i cannot see (another invisible presence). i communicate with it by typing on the ground as i'm walking.

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Haha....I know how you feel. It's amazing the things we will just accept. :?

We just need to remember to question everything.

Good luck.

well at least my dreams are becoming more vivid! but yeah i need to question everything more. my stop watch has only showed up once in my dreams, and even then i got distracted. it seems i have to get the timing of when to do the RC's because in a dream it's always changing, easy for distractions.

I notice when i get lucid, i get a lot smarter and can think pretty clearly.

Last night i had trouble sleeping, i think the b6 kept me up for a bit. 2 dreams.

Cats: i was in a room with a few people, one guy had a cat. Me and some other guy were holding kittens.

Mall:


I'm outside this mall walking on these marble pathways. they are slippery, so slippery that i can glide across them. at some point i'm skating real fast accross them. i crash into stuff a few times but i keep going.

I walk inside the mall and browse a few shops. The slightly chubby girl from subway that always hits on me stops me and says something. i can't remember the convo well. i go upstairs to meet my brother and jen but i spot x talking to them. i suddenly remember she wanted to meet me there. i don't know why i agreed. i turned around and walked away, wondering why she felt compelled to show up. i get frustrated and apprehensive.

after walking around for a few minutes i see that x is no longer by my brother and his gf. they tell me some girl was looking for me. i told them i wasn't interested in meeting with her. they said, too bad because she knows our address and is coming by later.

when i get home, by myself i see my bro is home. i walk in and i see x there making out with him. she looks a bit different than in her picture. she had shorter hair with bleached streaks. i noticed she was comparitively short in relation to me. i laughed and asked if they were having fun. She stands up and smiles as if happy to see me. i turn around as if i didn't see and grab a beer from the fridge.

she tries to talk to me a bit, but i tell her that she should just leave, and shouldn't show up without talking to me first. i show her to the door. i trip on the way sending my arms flailing almost hitting her in the back of the head. she makes a comment about how she actually thought i was going to hit her. i shrug and open the door for her.

she suddenly hugs me and plants her lips on mine.i think "WTF does she think she's doing now." for a second she's trying to get me to kiss her back. i depress my lips sending her top lip slowly out of mine. i pull back and give her a concerning look. she gets the message and walks away.


note: it seems i voiced my intent for her to leave my dreams. i wonder if it will work since i wasn't lucid.

Little recall last night.

i only slept 2 hours or so:(. i was almost able to enter a few lucids. a few times at night i would close my eyes and still see my room or a different room, i tried to enter the dreams fully by concentrating on images and trying to get my gazing to pull me into the dream but the images desolved after a few seconds and i fully awoke again. at one point i was staring at a woman standing in a door way, when i blinked she turned into a freaky looking figure.

Edit: At one point i awoke fully in a dream. i looked at my blankets and it looked like someone dropped cat poo and kitty litter on my blankets. i remember thinking "how the hell did that get there? i don't have a cat. it seemed so real and vivid that i forgot to perform a reality check. i decided to go back to sleep and clean it up in the morning.

i had generally bad recall all week but on wednesday night i had a lucid.

from wedseday night:

Dream 1:

I was at a gym of some sort. at first i was boxing with someone and then i went into a wrestling ring. I thought my oppenent was gonna join but he never did. i ended up running around the wrestling rink.

Dream 2: i was at a bar. i went into the washroom and i saw the BF of this chick that tried to start a fight with me. he had a few buddies there. they turned out the lights and held me down and started kicking me.


I woke up at 4:30 am i had to get up in an hour. i thought "SHIT what crappy dreams" but then i remembered what twoshadows said about it doesn't matter the amount you sleep, 'cause dreams seem longer.

so i decided to WILD. soon i was seeing HI

Dream 3: I was in some building. this was very vague, i knew i was dreaming but i didn't quite know what it meant. i saw my friend dan. i followed him with a sense he was gonna lead me somewhere important.

Dream 4: I was at my apartment. i looked outside and saw my roommate Bill walking in the door. He owes last month rent to me still and i confronted him on it. he got testy so i kicked him out.

at some point i was in a hallway with James and Dan. i remember it was a cruddy hallway. i remember going down some stairs.

Dream 5: X at the 2nd gate. this dream started out lucid. i don't remember how i became lucid. the first part is very vague but i remember chasing a White Owl. I was in a large building that was real fancy. I climbed up a catwalk and caught the Owl perched there. it looked at me and i sensed the owl had something to do with X. i figured it was her animal dreamguides. so right then i meant to voice my intent to it, so that i could keep x out of my dreams. (i was hoping that on some sub concious or energetic level, it would cure me of my dreams of her.) the owl hooted and then started flying away it was heading for a window. instead of voicing the intent i wanted my motor skills acted on their own and i yelled, "Take me with you!!!"

The next thing i new i was sitting in an old fashioned classroom. there were no desks but all the students sat around a large wooden table. i was wondering how i had got there. somebody passed me 2 photographs. i looked at them and saw blurred images of a White Owl.

I suddenly remembered what happened in the previous dream and realised that perhaps i was still dreaming. i looked around the room, everything was stable and solid. the realization i was dreaming was so intense that i almost fainted. all my senses were perfectly intact. if this was a dream it was Damn realistic. i tried holding my nose but forgot to pay attention to the reaction 'cause I spotted x sitting about 2 seats down from me. she was reading a book. i wondered if i should ask her if this is a dream. but she seemed a bit involved and seemed to give off a vibe that said "Don't bother me".

I raised my hands to my face. they were my hands. Nothing was unusual about them. i looked at them closely, as i brought them closer to my face the images criss crossed, like you see double if an object were held close to your face and you see 2 of it. i thought "That's strange would my eyes really work the same in a dream???". i tried another RC. i spotted a book lying down with an image of some guy with a beard on the cover. i turned my head away and slowly turned it back. the book was exactly the same as it was before.

Since none of the RC's and everything in the dream was stable or not changing i accepted it as real life. The class ended then and i picked up my books and walked out the door.

Congratulations, man. :D

All right! Good job with the LDs. Hopefully this will be the start of many more LDs. :)

hopefully indeed!

friday: had a late night at the bar. so i only recal a small detail of X's face coming out of the shadows.

Saturday.

Dream1: i was in a dark tunnelly place with some people. we were underground there were sections we walked through where you open these doors that lead to a pitch black room with a bunch of other doors on the other side. i kept walking throught the doors only finding the same type of room. an older woman perhaps in her fifties, with dyed brown hair was walkign along with us. i had the inclination i should walk ahead of her so i quickened my pace. as soon as i was about 3 rooms ahead of her i found the end.

in the last room was a ladder leading up into a house. i don't remember much in the hoouse but eventually i was lying on the couch in the living room. some chubby girl i seemed to know sat down beside me. she starts trying to flirt with me and stuff but i'm not interested and say something like, "your a nice person and all but damn! have you ever tried the subway diet?"

Her mouth drops and gives some sarcastic remark.

i say " well at first i was attracted but as you got closer i saw those few inches there." then i poked her belly with my finger imitating the pillsbury doughboy. i don't remember the rest.

Dream 2: i remember that my highschool friend Kera was in this dream.



from last night:

Henrik's dream journal: i was on DV and i spotted Henrik Flyman's dream journal. he's the guitarist from a danish metal band i like. www.evilmasqurade.com i also run a small forum for them. anyway i remember reading some of his dreams but i don't remember what they were.

Cleaning: my landlord was over and we were cleaning up my place a bit (i think i was moving out). a techno version of a stratovarius song is playing, it sounds awesome!!! anyway, i went to clean under the cupboard where the kitchen sink is and i found a disney DVD and two other cd's that i had lost.

Grocery store: i was at a grocery store with my brother. I spotted free coffee so i left my brother to shop and helped myself to a few cups:-).

last nights dreams! they were pretty uneventfull.

dream 1. i was at my apartment. i was looking around and objects kept changing. at some point i was at my cub board and i seen a huge box of "snack pack". so i reached in and found a couple. but there was other stuff inside the box so i rummaged through it to see if i could find more pudding. but there was none. i then looked for the ones i found earlier but they were gone. i was mad. i remember thinking "DAMN! where's my snack pack?" at some point i was listening to a classic rock song that turned out to be a melodic metal song in the end. Khan from Kamelot was the singer i think.

Dream 2: i was in some wierd town in alberta. i think i was at a job of some sort. there was an ugly looking dark skinned dude there. for some reason i started talking to him. i think i stole someones chair just to talk to him. i asked him if he ever goes to calgary?

Dream3: i was outside a fictional house of mine. i can't remembre if i was doing any yardwork or not. but then a car pulls up and a guy leans his head out the window and says "hey Rob! can you move that car so i can pull into the garage?" I realise it's chris and i ask him what he's doing out in alberta.

"Well Royce, jeff and all them other fucks out in ontario can't get their shit straight when it comes to the job. But crazy ron told me on the phone to come out here since theres lots of work, but anyway, move the damn vehicle!"

I remember i just got my learners lisence but i never took the time yet to learn to drive. i wind up getting into the car with chris and he starts bashing into the other cars trying to move them out of the way.

Dream 4: i was at my house again with some people. a lady and a few other guys. i go to my balcony and some sparkling shape comes right out of the wall. i grab it and i see it's a green glow stick. a whole bunch of these glow sticks start coming out of the walls in my apartment. Me and some other people gather them all up and put them in my backpack. Everyone thinks the sticks are cursed so we all want to go out and throw them in a fire along with some other cursed stuff.

i kept a long red and a few short green sticks to myself. i snapped some to make them glow.

eventually everyone forgets about the cursed sticks. I'm hungry so i rummage through my fridge. i find left over spaghetti sauce. i wonder if i should go to the store and get some of the stuffed pasta noodle that look like ravioli but have much better filling in them. i don't recall finding any in alberta.

i wake up with some annoying christmas song in my head.

Tuesday night's dreams.

Killing Concert: i was on stage at a concert of some sort. instead of playing music me and the whole band were shooting pellets at people. my gun was spraying pellets in every direction but the people. some girl went up to me and showed me a switch on the gun for straight line shooting. once i switched i spotted a guy in a blue jacket and shot him in the shoulder until he fell to the ground and got trampled. i did this to several people.

Demon Desire: ok i think this dream was the result of watching 4 horror movies before bed.

in the dream i felt like i was possesed by something that likes to kill people. i felt this hatred and thoughts that weren't mine, yet i was feeling them. i was stabbing some guy sadistacly in the chest while i was yelling something. suddenly i saw what my victim saw: my face was painted pure black and my eyes were pure white with no pupils or color. the shock of this site woke me up.

i sat up for a minute or so and then when i closed my eyes i saw the same face come out of the shadows. they eyes were strange like they weren't looking at anything but i felt them looking at me. i couldn't fall asleep for another hour:(. reminds me of the excorcist.

popped b6!

Another Universe: at first i dreamt i was walking through the school field of Little Mountain elementary school in chilliwack. i saw a few small hills i had never seen before. the grass seemed to be an abstract green almost like from a painting. the hills kept changing as i was walking past them.

i went up to a building and found a square entrance i could barely fit through. i walked throught the place and i was suddenly with someone. i found another square window leading out so i broke the glass and tried to fit through. i was stuck for a minute until a hand grabbed mine and pulled me out.

When i got through i was on a highway on the side of a strange mountain. the mountain side on my left was a continuos screen displaying dimensions of space and things i couldn't focus on. There about 20 old fashioned dressed people picknicking in the middle of the road. they said i could join them. i walked by their displays of food and i couldn't find anything to my liking.

i went to the front of the group and sat behind two ladies in long dresses. one apologised and moved out of my view of the T.V. mountain side. I asked them what this place was. The brunette in a green dress said that this was another universe, so naturally, the average laws didn't apply.

Semi Lucid: i was half aware i was dreaming but forgot what to do. i was in a room and my brother was talking to me. the things he said made no sense. he looked like a projection from an old color t.v.. i knew he was either a DC or an astral body. i asked him a question only my sub-concious would know. he answered perfectly! i went up to him to see if he was solid. i poked my finger at his shoulder and he was solid. he then looked at me kinda funny.

i woke up and tried to Fild and had two short lucids:

1. i was in another room with a pool table and saw some guy. i was gonna ask him something but i woke up.

2. I was in the same room with a different DC. a female i think. i asked her if i was dreaming? she said "Why, yes of course! :) "

i woke up and realised i did the wrong lucid task of the wrong month :doh:

Christmas: i was outside on some bar patio. i had a ciggarette pack that was custom made. it had a ppainting of a family around the fireplace on christmas eve, there were stalkings and a well lit tree. i was talking to the DC from the last lucid.

Another Gay rape dream: i was trapped in some house. some guys said they would open the door if i did something for them. they led me to a dark room and told me to wait at the door. they went in for a minute and then called me over. i walked over to the bunk bed and sat down. one guy came out of the shadows and held me down. the stronger guy ripped down my pants and underwear. he pulled out my member, which was strangely hard. he grabbed it's base and was about to go down on it when i got a leg loose and kicked him in the face and struggled away from the other guy. i ran out of the house finally with no pants.

Letter: i went to my p.o. box and pulled out a letter addressed to me. i was from X. there was another piece of paper taped to it. i ripped the small envelope open and out came 10 or so LARGE papers. i couldn't read any of the writing. it was either too faint or too sloppy. i could read some parts but when i looked again they read something else.:(

Come Christmas Eve, we will have a synch dream! :D

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hehe, well have yet to see! i gotta type it up later my time is limited for today

Merry Christmas to you too... :)

Hope you get some cool LDs for Christmas tonight!

hey thank you Twoshadows

i got A LOT of dj'ing to do so bear with me.

last weekends dreams:

Stairs: i was in a stairwell in an apartment building with my brother. when we got to the floor where we were going it was blocked off. instead of a door to the hallway there was a staircase the abrubtly ends at a wall with a T.V. screen. i tell me brother the staircase should work on the other side of the building.

when we get in i enter a room and i see my dad playing some video game that looked similar to super mario. i thought it was strange he was playing video games but he handed me the controller. i started playing. it seems on the map i couldn't enter any of the levels:( in fact i got flung onto a different map.

sunday night before christmas:

Emmissary: i had a brief lucid experience during some HI. i heard a disembodied voice telling me things about dreaming. i forget what it said. but it did mention i should live in it's realm.... i ignore it and say i don't wish to. it persists in saying that i would experience things beyond imagination including any type of sex i could possibly have... i still refuse.

pretty soon i was standing in a mall of some sort. i walk outside and see my brothers car there. i sit inside and it starts rolling. I'm in the backseat and realise i should use my learner's liscence. so i try to hop in front and i notice that in my right hand is a ciggarrete and in my left a joint. i think "WTF!?!?!? i don't smoke weed." so i put the smokes out and get to the drivers seat. i go to turn the ignition but i realise i still have the joint in my left hand and it's burning still. i put it out and double check it's out in the ashtray.

my brother enters and stops the car. he asks me if he should buy smokes at the store. i tell him he's not native so he can't get deals on smokes out here and no native ID card to boot. but he gets out and tries to pass as a native anyway.

i forget when but i'm back in the mall and the emmissary starts talking to me again. next thing i remember i'm floating around as if i have no form. The emmisarry suggests i try to see Energy. i move around inside some long shape in the air. as soon as i'm in i see electrical currents and hear an electrical buzzing sound rising and falling as if a consistent electrical current is coming and going by.

The emmissary tells me that instead of trying to see energy i went inside a powerline :doh: So the emmissary says it will help me see with it's energy. suddenly i experience the whitest light i have ever seen. i notice all kinds pleasant sensations beyond description. i see my hands showing up but in different angles as if my body is fragmented. the hands repeatedly appear in random views in my sight. after a while the feeling gets so intense i wake up. it lingers for a moment and then fades

Planes Trains and Pyramids:

I'm in a jungle somewhere and see some kids playing inside a small pyramid. i walk in and go to the bottom level. With perfect clarity i spot a brunette a bit taller than me lying down. i seem to know or have met her before. I lay down on a rock slab next to her. we talk some, she mostly tries to give me crap. but i respond with aggresive banter. i forget what i say but she looks stunned as if i were right on target. she walks away slightly flustered.

I go outside nad notice there is a vietnam war scenario going on. I spot my friend Jay. he hands me a camo back-pack and an musket that looks over a hundred years old. i start running with it but my equipment is heavy. i see we have to infiltrate a train about to leave. one of the cars is blown up and on fire. i run up to it and the emmisarry makes on of the cars transparent and it shows me that there are innocent people inside.
i ditch my gear and sneak into a car in the train.

i know the army people will be attacking soon so i try and tell the people to get out. they don't hear me so i sit down in a seat. i sense someone looking at me so i look up. across from me is the woman i saw earlier. she seems to have heard what i said. i motion with my eyes to the back of the car. i get up and she follows me out of the train.

monday night

Strangeland:

I'm in a dessert watching a scene. Robin Williams has a homo dude after him. R outwits the dudes advances with his ridiculous acting and humor.(wish i could've remembered more specific details here...)

I'm suddenly floating beside two animals having a telepathic conversation with eachother. they sometimes change form, or transport themselves along great distances. they are saying they are two beings that have lived almost a billion years! they are looking for a sacred document that will show them how to die. since after a billiuon years they wish to die and end their eternal curse.

Dream 2: I'm at a bar talking to a woman in her thirties.

Dream 3: I'm in a bed making love to the woman from the dream the night before. she has shorter hair but brilliant eyes. (i hope she becomes a regular :wink: )

School: i'm in a strange school with a social circle i don't know. throughout the dream i'm in different rooms as if running from or looking for something.

at some point i go down an escalator that goes so fast it flings me off and i land flat on my face.

Wedsenday night:

Dump:

I'm at a trashy place outside of some dort. Theres a giant crane and i see it's the only way to climb over the wall of garbage. i climb it and when i treach the top i get inside i blue metal cage. on the other side i see Royce and his son Trevor: they are yelling up to me to get out. for a moment i can't seem to get out.

i eventually give up and go back the way i came. at the bottom is a river of sewage and i see some trailer trash guy my age sitting on a couch with a t.v. by the river. he invites me to sit down with him. i grudgingly agree since i am tired. as soon as i sit down the couch starts sinking into the river of sewage. i get up and try turn towards the crane again.

The Art of Dreaming:

I'm in a large bus of somesort and on the bus they are having a karaoke competition. I instantly pick a song and go up to the dj - a fairly old guy i might add. he tells me i'm already in rotation. i look at him confused since i had just got there. but he points to the table and sure enough i see a piece of paper in my writing with the song request: Bohemian Rhapsody.

i ignore the incongruity and start talking to the guy. we eventually sit at a table with some women and we somehow get onto the conversation of dreams.

Me: you know i've had a few experiences in lucid dreaming.

DJ (questioningly): yeah right! I'm a lucid dreamer. (gives me a look as if i don't know what i'm talking about) ok then describe it.

Me: well all i can say is that in one particular dream it seemed as real as i am standing here right now.

DJ: (looks suprised and nods with a smile): hey, that's a good description.

one of the women: so how did you first learn about it?

Me: well i got interested in it by an New age author Carlos...... (seemed to be stumbling with my words)

Woman: Castaneda! I've read him. wierd stuff.

Me: indeed! I admit his stuff is pretty far fetched but nevertheless, his methods are usefull. His theory was that in dreaming we glance at objects to engage the second attention. the first attention, of course, is the attention of the daily world. The second attention is supposed to be much more abstract than our reasonable minds can possibly imagine.

the man nods in approval and the 3 women are giving me looks like a dog begging for it's dinnerbowl. they obviously want to continue.

Me: the second attention ,like i said, is engaged when we glance at objects in a dream. Dreamers do this in a systematic fashion. it's fairly simple pick 3-four objects and look at them repeatedly. (selecting 3 coffee cups and book on the table) for example i'll look at this cup and then that cup, that cup and that book and then back to the first cup and repeat. (note: all objects were perfectly stable) this helps stabalise the dream, increases realism and pauses the dream. 'cause normally in a dream something or some circumstance is always pulling at your Attention. so in essence: stabalising the objects in the dream fixates the second attention so that it may be utilised. it sounds crazy i know: but this method has made my dreams seem so real it unbeleviable.

The Dj is thouroghly impressed with my explanation i think he knows who i am and i think i know if not who but at least What he is, a sorcerer!
dream ends

Note: at least i'm practicing tasks in dreams without being lucid:) and the scercise in the dream did improve vividness hence the details.



the rest of the week my recal has been bad.

Oh and it's my 22'nd b-day today! so happy b-day me!

Happy Birthday!!

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Oh- Isn't it crazy when we say things like this in our dreams and don't even catch the fact that it is a dream??

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Hehehe...I guess so. :D


But having dreams like this get us closer to the real thing. At least Lucid dreaming is being thought about while we dream. :roll:

I think we may have had a dream similarity on Monday night? Check out my journal and tell me what you think.

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thanks twoshadows, cold blooded and Oneironaut for your holiday and birthday wishes! much appreciated! And thanks VK for kindly returning my book.

crap i left my dj keywords at home so i forget my dreams AHHHH! i hate it when holidays keep one too busy.

kk

monday night's dreams.

MSN: i was looking at my msn list and peoples names kept changing.

city: I was in a strange city. at some point i was at a condo visiting my dad. i saw a few books that i had read before on his table but they had a different cover.

at some point i'm walking around a sub division with some girls. i think one of my child hood friends is with me but i don't know who. i eventually get alone with one of the girls. she had short blond hair she kisses me for a minute and then stops.

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No problem.

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that just goes to show that DV people rock! my roomies out in ontario won't even send some DVD's and Cd's i left out there damnit! I hope you were at least mildly entertained by the book:-)

DREAMS:

i've had a bad cold lately so my room mate Dave gave me some sinutap. the stuff put me out FAST! and i had a good splash of dreams, maybe because of it.

Wierd instrument: i was in a resteraunt and some east indian guys were playing a wierd instrument that looked sort of like a mandolin. they let me play it a bit, it was wierd, i would pick the notes and when i added vibrato it gave a wierd wah wah like effect! it was cool!. after a while people started groovin to it!

Town: i was walking around in a small town looking for something or someone. for some reason it triggered a dream memory i may have had years ago.

Giant house: i was in a large house with some people. they were very rich and well off. i think i lived there. at one point i went outside. but no one was around - the people that were gonna give me a ride to work weren't there. i went back inside the house and almost got lost. the house turned out to be an indoor condo or apartment, each suite was as big as a million dollar home.

End of the World:

i was high in some trees that were like a cross between pine and cedar trees. i think i was a mile up because it took forever to climb down. a few time i was sliding down the light branches real fast. (i actually use to do this a lot in tall cedar trees when i was a boy).

anyway when i got down a bunch of bombs started going off everywhere and the ground started shaking. i saw a horde of school childrean fall to the ground getting crushed by random debris.

Too sick: i was lying on a couch under a blanket. my dad was sitting on the end of the couch and some ugly fat girl climbed under my blanket and was trying to sleep with me. her belly was right on my face and she kept yellin "take me now!". but since i was smothered i couldn't yell. i had to use a lot of force to get her off me. but she kept crawling back on. my dad poked his head under the blanket and started laughing at me.

I eventually told her i was too sick to do anything anyway and she should just leave. she left finally and i got some sleep.

ok my recall has been practically nonexistent all week, *sigh* i need a hug!

i have been writing what keywords of what i remember. so here's some scrambled bits of what i remember.

Lonewolf: i had a dream of nagual lonewolf. he had a thick beard and long hair which hid his boyish face.

Writing: lucid. at one point during the night i closed my eyes and still had my room in view! only i was now sitting up staring at my hands. my right had was holding a pen and in front of me a piece of paper. i decided to see what my writing would look like in a dream. so i wrote "LUCID DREAM" on the piece of paper. as soon as i wrote it down the letters began to vanish

Basement: i was in a basement talking to a woman in her thirties. she thought i was flirting with her and asked me why i like older women? i said something like "well, you know what they say! older the candy, sweeter the chew!"

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Even though that was short, that was very interesting. I love trying experiments in my LDs. I have never tried doing this. I'll have to give it a try. Interesting how the letters started to vanish.

Good job.

Keep it up. Your recall will improve.

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Keep it up. Your recall will improve.

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Thanks! :hug: . your statement was right because i had some dreams last night finally!

Dream1: I was walking around a big city. I was getting pizza for my brother. At some point i was looking for a movie theater 'cause i wanted to see something.

Dream 2: I was leaving a school and walking with a friend. after a block or so i had the sensation that someone was looking at me, I looked to my right and saw Shawna sitting on the steps of her house. she was wearing all pink and was smiling at me (hers is the only face i actually remember seeing in the dream). I smiled back and my friend said something to her. we kept on walking.

we arrived at my friends house, i went in and immdiately saw stairs leading down. i looked down the stair case and saw the house went two floors under ground insteasd of 3 storeys up. i went down stairs and greeted my friends mom. i walked down a hallways and there were cats or something running into my legs.

Dream 3: I was in my cousins living room, it was filled with pianos.

Last nights dreams!

MM: i was in a building of some sort with my brother watching a new Marilyn Manson video. both me and my brother agreed he sucks!


Toronto: I'm in a truck with a few guys one of them was asian. I'm just getting back in toronto and looking at all the tall buildings. we make a right on avenue road around the apartment buildings my work crew use to drywall. suddenly the road stops and is all broken up. as the truck begins to turn around i think "holy shit this must be a lucid dream!" i remembered what i wanted to do but then i woke up instantly


Creature: as i'm falling asleep i'm thinking about what my dream guides are. i find myself in the house we're currently drywalling only the main room is connected to a landing and the wall facing the street has a window. i hear a voice say "Robert". i turn around expecting to see jen there. but i see a person with and amber flourescent skin. i know its a female and i like her eyes. but the shock of seeing something so strange wakes me up.

i only had one dream from last night: i was in a kitchen and some woman came up behind me and started hugging me. I forget what she was saying, but she then tried to drag me to bed. i woke up damnit!


and holy fuck i just had the most messed up day of my life! it was wierd i just started remembering all these childhood memories. and because of these memories i realised some pretty interesting things about myself. all memories revolved around childhood romances. Why type this? because it's a part of my sorcery practices. a particular part called the "Recapitulation". it starts with writing down the names of everyone you ever knew to the best of your recollection. then you meditate on those names and breath deeply fanning your head from side to side. breathe in to the right and breathe out when you turn your head right.



I've tried this a couple times. the recollection doesn't happen right away, it can take weeks or even months before the recollection surfaces. A better description and practical use of the Recapitulation is outlined in the Carlos Castaneda book : The Active side of infinity.


S*** i gotta run i'l; write it out later.

Interesting stuff. Good luck with it.

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LOL NO it was a good day!

i had a couple dreams but i wanna write about my experience while i'm still in the feeling place of it.

When I woke up yesterday morning i tried to recall some dreams. i got fragments of actual dreams but lost them. i began to notice a particular sensation or memory. i held onto it 'cause i felt there was some significance to it. i began to remember small details and went over them in my mind a bunch of times. eventually i remembered big chunks of more details and was eventually able to construct it in linear sequences of events. this is the exact method i use to recal dreams. only this time i recalled actual memories that i haven't even thought about in around 10 years! the reccollection was so vivid it was if i was reliving it!

first memory. when i was about 7 or so i was going to Charles dickens school in vancouver. I remember i used to play with a brown haired girl. i remember i stopped going to the playground because the bullies would always tease me. So, instead getting all mad about it i befriended this girl. every recess we use to climb a large tree and call it our castle. we had a few other friends who would join in the game. basically it was typical roleplay. When our other friends weren't there (and sometimes i would make up a story so they would leave:-) ). anyway we would kiss eachother on the cheek.

Half a year later when i first moved to chilliwack. I just turned 8. i befriended a girl named Megan, who luckily lived down the street from me. she lived in a townhouse surrounded by thick cedar trees. again we would roleplay and pretend we were in a large forest running away from scary animals. I remember when i kissed her (i don't know where i got the kissing stuff from, probably from a movie, my dad never sheltered me away from anything as a child. the only downside was he never encouraged my social skills probably as a result of his anger at the world). i remember her blue eyes and blond hair that hung just past her ears. Every strand of hair was in place. i could clearly see bluish veins on her forehead.

Same year a block away. i befriended a black girl who lived a block away. i remember kissing her and noticed she tasted and smelled different from other girls.

At a christain camp the same year in the summer. i made real good friends with a brown haired girl my age. At the camp there was a stream with no water. you could cirlce the entire camground in it, go under bridges. near the edge of the campround was a round, metal sided tunnel that went underneat the witdth of the campground. it would take at least 5-10 minutes to walk through it. I walays loved adventure and learned how to walk through the entire tunnel without a flashlight. Halfway through there were rocks. So naturally i wanted to take her through it.

it took hours to persuade her mother (she probably thought i would do something gross to her. at this time in my life i had no idea that parents had such fears. all i was told was that there were strangers, that wanted to hurt me. i couldn't imagine why anyone would want to tho!). she said eventually said "yes" but only if i brought her younger sister along. i agreed of course!

During the trip through the tunnel there was a part where it was pitch black. The girls began to get scared and held onto me. the younger one whined that she wanted to go back in the other direction. But i assured her that we were only halfway through. i told her again just to hold onto me because there were large rocks ahead that she would trip over, and if she held onto me i wouldn't let her fall. eventually we made it through and the mother was on the other side.

i had earned her trust and she took the younger sister home. The brown haired girl wanted to go back through the tunnel again. so we went back that way. on our way back we took the dry stream there were about five bridges we had to go inder. under the last bridge there were other kids my age. i don't know how but we began fighting. i remember being kicked and spotting a stick while i was on the ground. i grabbed the stick and hit it over the one kids head that was kicking me. the stick broke over his head and coincidently he was biting his lip while i hit him. He started crying and his friends took him away.

me and the girl stayed under the bridge a few minutes. i remember kissing her then. she smiled at me and said we should have sex. i asked her what sex was? i had heard the word but never knew the meaning of it. She said that parents do it and that you lie on one another and move around while kissing. i tried this Pants ON OF COURSE, Thank god she had no idea you were supposed to have sex naked! I remember thinking it was strange we just kissed and sort of wiggled. Fortunatley her mother had come looking for her. Unfortunately i wasn't allowed to play with her anymore. no one told me why.

And another time near the end of my first year in chilliwack there was another girl who's parents were friends with my dad. I always got her to kiss me on the cheek. she had a hard time pronouncing my brother's name "Arther" she was missing a few front teeth and coulnd't announciate the "TH" was she always said was "Ar'er"!

So anyway as i look back i realised i had 5 girlfriends in one year! and i look at myself now with not as much luck. and i think WHAT HAPPENED????? i was such a natural at being comfortable around girls i would create adventures and invite them into my world and use my imaginative story telling to create the right mood. at the right moment i would isolate them. and years later when i studied seduction these guys use the same stuff "being fun, imaginative, sensual, creating adventures, imaginative story telling and then isolating for the seduction at the right moment." And here i am thinking i need to study this stuff when i already had a natural instinct for it. and Sure i lost touch with it because of fears that i realise now aren't relevant.

I realise now that EVERY time i pulled off a technique well, it was because i used it at the right moment inuitively! everytime i would "TRY" a technique to overcompensate for FEAR, it came off incongruent because they could Smell an agenda. and i didn't like feeling like needed to hide an agenda.and not only that with the women i've met that DID like me, eventually lost their attraction because i conditioned myself to be afraid of them- therefore failed to follow through with the seduction.

i totally get it now. When i was 15 i was friends with a very pretty girl named Sarah. Sarah was going with a drug dealer who continually physically assaulted her. She hit on every boy she met to spite him. And a lot of guys would act creepy with her or horndoggish. I was of course too Shy but i always remembered being Genuine with her. one time she invited me to go babysit with her. i played video games with the younger kids until they had to go to bed. she put them upstairs and we watched TV. when it was time to sleep iw as lying on the couch and she shut the light off and crawled onto the couch with me and started cuddling me. i just layed there enjoying it when a few minutes later when she looked at me kind of angrily and said "your wierd", she then went to sleep by herself on the floor. i didn't understand why she left to sleep on the couch, but as i look back now i know she wanted to get F***'ed. :doh:

Conclusion: i don't have to act arrogant or disinterested if a woman shows interest in me anymore. instead i know i gotta push through that fear and hesitation and act in the moment! instead of approaching bitchy-hot women why not approach the pretty ones that ALREADY like me. So when she smiles at me and makes eye contact, maybe glances ever so discretely at my crotch, i can go over and say "Hi...." and it really doesn't matter what i say after that because i no longer have an agenda. i can assume she wants to have fun, and fun can literally mean ANYTHING! it doesn't have to entail any specific monotonous detail, that's why it's called fun. and then i can be that boy again, The boy that likes girls, has fun with them, tells them imaginative stories and takes them on adventures beyond their wildest dreams and then Isolates. That boy is me!

And in reality i don't have to be afraid or even hesitate, because now i understand The women WANT me to succeed. because if i fail then They don't get to go on an adventure beyond their wildest dreams and They don't get to be alone with me. and that's Why They lose interest after a while if i don't succeed.



anyway if you all think i'm nuts then you can suck my...... finger


dreams later

Dream1: I was at Jhoans house using her computer. People started walking in. i wanted to leave because they were having a party and i wanted to be by myself. eventually i was sitting at a table with my friend dave, a saw two women in their twenties walk in. they stood around holding their drinks. i ignored them and kept talking to dave.


Dream2: I was outside somewhere at night time with some people. i looked into the sky and saw two cylon warships destroying a planet. i thought they were gonna attack but the planet we were on seemed to be protected by a barriar.

Dream 3: I was in the woods outside a house walking with somebody. We went into the backyard that seemed to span a few acres. I saw Scott in the distance, his head was shaved and he said "Hey buddy ready to go?" I kept walking past him ignoring him.

Suddenly i noticed i was having trouble breathing. my friend walked ahead while i tried to catch my breath. soon i felt like i was suffocating. my heart began to pump faster and faster and faster. i was losing grip on reality. i called out to my friend but he couldn't hear me. so i ran! i knew my friend Eric knew something about what was going on with me. i ran past my friend and saw scott again. he was punching a metal shed with all his might screaming "I HATE BEING SOBER!"

I ran past the shed and saw a sand box. eric was standing there. his image was crystal clear. i felt all the blood rushing out of my limbs and into my heart. my limbs began to feel cold and numb but my abdominal region became warm. i was passing out. i ran up to eric and he said "Hey rob, nice to see you again, My you look different. you've changed somehow"

Dream 4: i was outside a motel. i was an animal, a dog. i was with either a cat or another small dog. we were talking but not with words.

Dream1: i was looking at my DV inbox and i had 2 new messages.

Dream 2: don't remember much it was really shifty.

Dream 3, Richard: I was playing video games with someone. on the screen a character was running around collecting banana's. suddenly it was me running around collecting bananas. Richard appeared behind me. i said "hey look there's more bananas" he said "no good they're all rotten and shit". i looked at the bananas he was talking about, they were squished and looked like they'd been rotting for days.

I followed richard back to a table outside. i think my brother may have been there. i remembered i had had a dream about richard. i said "hey richard i had a dream about you the other night"

he looked at me quizzically and said. "is that so?"

ok this is messed up every time i have a dream with richard in it it's always about how i had a dream with him in it. here's my previous dream with him.

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Dream 1. Richard.

I was in Toronto at night time. I was walking across a plaza when i spotted my childhood friend richard.

"Richard!!!!" i called out to him. the man turned around and i saw he wasn't richard. a second later the REAL richard showed up on his bike. he was wearing the same old white columbia sports jacket he always wore in highschool.

He slowed his pace on his bike allowing me to walk with him. we talked about many things. after a half an hour we turned down an alley way. the alleyway seemed very familiar. i said "Hey richard? i've never been here before but i'm positive i was here in a dream before"

he said. "yes, you've dreamt this before". he then sped off with his bike into the darkness. i called after him and ran into the pitch black alleyway and woke up.

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Coincidence or not? oh and the banana thing, last night i was watching "Billy Madison", in that movie there are several scenes with banana's in it.

and not only that the richard dreams preceded a night mare. and i did have a nightmare last night!

Dream 4, War of the Tornados:

I was in a house peering out a window. i saw these magnificent clouds forming in the sky. they looked massive and beautiful. they seemed to be all around me, i wanted nothing more than to be among them.

The awe of the sight was broken when the sky began to darken. I knew something was afoot and it had to do with those clouds. Suddenly a windlike force began to shake the house. i looked out the window and saw a massive tornado approaching in the distance. it was more gigantic than anything i had ever seen, even bigger than the one on "twister".

I hid somewhere until it passed. i went outside and it was still dark. i looked up too the sky and i saw more tornados coming. there was about 5 extremely compact twisters moving in synchronization with one another. almost as if they were intelligent. I looked towards the door of the house and something caught my eye. In the distance i saw a Tripod (war of the worlds) lurking around. I snuck to the side of the house where it couldn't see me. i slowly etched my way back inside the house. the small tornadoes were circling the house. and in the distance i saw an even more massive tornado, about the size of a small city, and it seemed to be gaining in mass. I saw things walking out of the massive tornado they were more tripods. i knew they would be able to see me if i didn't hide.

I heard things trying to enter the house. i found a bed in a dark room and hid under it. Someone was walking into the room. i saw the persons feet and legs. they were female. i began to fall asleep.

Dream five: it was daytime I saw gigantic clouds like the pervious dreams and i saw tall Mecha-like objects roaming around the plain.

Dream6: mini Lucid as i was falling back asleep i closed my eyes and saw my finger in front of me. i turned over in my real bed and the image of the finger stayed i realised i could move the dream finger. so i made circles and waves. the whole time i was aware of both being able to control the dream and also aware that i was in my bed. the duality of the perception was tricky and i lost the lucid

A Lucid!! Good for you!!

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Creepy! I saw that movie for the first time a couple of weeks ago. I was so sure it would give me nightmares. But I am glad that so far it hasn't.

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That's really interesting. I'd love to be able to remember certain times in my life so vividly.

Congratulations, ranma. :teeth:

And that twister dream sounds awesome. :shock:

Thanks a lot guys.

Twoshadows, the recollection got me thinking. Day after day countless people are going to shrinks and therapy reliving not good, but BAD repressed memories. What a lot of people don't see is that this form of "therapy" doesn't actually help the person. why? because they learn to blame their problems on their childhood and other people. What this does is attain and maintain their role as "victim". and really it's quite nice to be a victim because then you don't ever have to be responsible for yourself. It's sad really.

Now, what if, instead of making them relive bad memories, but memories that emphasise the persons strengths. Then they would have something to FEEL GOOD about themselves. This Feeling good would probably motivate a person to conquer their fears and accomplish more in life. just a thought:)

dreams:

Labrynth:

I was following someone through a whole bunch of winding halls and doorways. We made a few circles through the underground building but the passages seemed to change everytime. The man seemed to be showing me a pattern of some sort - Even though the passages change and never stay the same, if you follow the pattern correctly it will eventually lead you to your destination.

I followed him mercilessly until it suddenly, it appeared we were Underground. We were now in a labrynth and the man left me on my own to follow the pattern he showed me. I followed the pattern to the best of my recollection. I seemed to be running on instinct. I realised that I didn't need to think about the pattern because I had already internalised it. Within a few minutes I jumped from a ledge and landed on a box where I found a woman who seemed to be lost. I led her by the hand until we reached the exit.

At the exit we stood at downtown toronto. Only it was a DREAM downtown toronto. I saw dome like shapes lit up like christmas trees. I was no longer aware of the woman, or she had left. to my left I saw people heading down a street that obviously led to the subway. I followed them.

Snow: I was on the forum That Steve (the seduction seminar instructor from the workshop i took in september.) recently built. I posted a progress report of my doings over the past few months. 1 lay, a Mediocre woman I turned into my tantric labrat, and that my social skills were improving. i could walk into a bar or club in the right mindset and infiltrate a social circle and make new friends. Women no longer look at me funny when i saw "hi" or buy them a drink. i figure it's because now I've had good sex and realise it's not all that it's cracked out to be, even though it feels pretty damn good lol, i no longer come a cross as needy, therefore I can be myself around them. problems: I think about myself too much instead of letting myself go in the process. because of this, when I think back on the previous night, i realised i was getting hints and invitations from them but I was too self concious to notice them.

Steve replied with something like: although i was becoming more aware and eble to enjoy the process. something in me was missing the point: to relax, have fun, and make sure everyone's having fun. I had to stop thinking about sex so much.

Annoying caller: My FWBs called me at work. She was wondering if i'd be able to take a bus to see her, she would help pay for the ticket. Her co-worker kept stealing the phone and kept bugging me for intimate details about what i do with her. i kept ignoring the guy. She gabbed the phone back and got out a few words but her co worker grabbed it back and insisted on details. this happened a few times and i just shrugged and hung up.

Subway: i was staring at the street that led to the subway from my previous dream. i thought "so i didn't just dream it, this place is actually real"

only one dream:


I was in Chilliwack B.C. by little mountain with a brown haired woman around my age that i just met. she mentioned she was in martial arts. i said "Really i've been wanting to take some form of martial art for some time now"

her: Really you should join my class and be my sparring partner :wink:


that's all i remember.


And Woohoooo! I just moved to calgary yesterday.

Dreams.

The Game: I was at a party of some sort. and a bunch of guys were holding and reading "the Game " by Neil Strauss.


Boopsy: I was at a nightclub of some sort talking to some boopsy. I forget most of the conversation by she leaned into me after a while and whispered "let's go someplace quiet".

She grabbed me by the hnd and started dragging me to another part of the club. I squeezed her hand and she squeezed back. Game on. she led me down a hall with a loveseat at the end. I think we were making out or something and she opened her shirt and said "touch me". i looked around the hallway and people were still walking around, I've never done anything like that in public so i wasn't sure what to do. She kept Kinoing me (kinesthetic touch) and begging me to play with her breasts.

after a minute of teasing i said "I'll suck em too." then stuck my tounge out and swung it back and forth to tease her a bit. Then i looked at her breasts and her nipples were shifting colors and size. i was a bit shocked at the strange sight. she saw my hesitation and whispered in my ear. "if you suck my tits you can kiss me down there" making a down gesture with her eyes. i shrugged and then started sucking her right breast, lashing my toungue in a side to side manner across her nipple. i began massaging her right breast in the manner like i'd seen in a video from www.sensualawakening.com . i then squeesed a bit just under her cupline. she began to moan loudly and then i woke up!

Well got Smashed last night and suprisingly i remembered a few dreams.

Dream1: i remember this being an extremely long dream but all i can remember is that i was at a bar with some short blonde girl. There was lots of Physical touching and stuff.

Dream2: i was having coffee with a bunch of people. Some really old lady was flirting and trying to take me home. ewww. I think i was talking to Steve, and 26 (A guy from the seduction comminuty) they were both saying i was doing pretty well in my excursions.

i think the dreams were related to what i was doing last night : http://fastseduction.com/discussion/fs?act...2276&fid=24

Dreams from the past few days.

DV jukebox: There was an option on DV where you could install an DV mp3 player. Each DV member could upload tracks and even make their own playlists. another cool option was the ability to listen to other DV members' playlists!

T.V.: I was sitting in bed watching T.V. the picture became fuzzy so i reached up to fix the dial. when my hands went by the screen they became transparent. I switched the channel and all i got was fuzzy static. I ran my hands over the t.v. again and my hands went all fuzzy as if all the molecules were separating forming a mist.


Hands: i was watching t.v. again and i saw my hands again. i knew i was lucid. i tried floating towards the tv but everything got shaky. i moved a few feet but then i stopped and couldn't get throught like there was a force field.

I lost the view but then i saw my hands again a few3 times.

Hands (from last night): i kept seeing my hands rise in front of my face, thy kept changing. at one point i saw them covered in drywall mud

Parralel Universe: i was watching T.V. with my brother. on the t.v. was my brother, but the one on t.v. was different. he had a totally different demeanor. me and my brother concluded we were watching t.v. from a parallel universe.

Who's that: i was walking down a hall and i saw a couple sitting. one looked like X, and i was thinking "oh no not again" but i saw she had a different face. i woke up instantly.


and this signifies no X dreams for a month... WOOOHOOOO!

Wow...TVs and hands....

You always have those "hands" dreams. I started to have some for a while (after reading about yours, I think). I always thought it was very interesting to look at my hands in my dreams. I need to remember that for next time.

Keep it up...and I hope you have a really long LD soon. :)

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Wow...TVs and hands....

You always have those "hands" dreams. I started to have some for a while (after reading about yours, I think). I always thought it was very interesting to look at my hands in my dreams. I need to remember that for next time.

Keep it up...and I hope you have a really long LD soon. :)
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I hope so too. I've been doing a lot of WBTB type stuff, it seems i've trained myself to wake up at night. This is good, since i try to practice WILD a lot. since practicing it seems i've been having the mini lucids more often, each time they get a little longer and stranger. I'm sure if i keep at it i'll be having long lucids in no time. I was getting pretty frustrated, i haven't had a long satisfying lucid in months!

Oh and thanks for stopping by so often, and for all the support It's cool to have people like you around :wink: I do appreciate it!

Anyway i left something out. I was having other short dreams related to Photo Reading.

About photo reading: You know those old films where they would put subliminal advertising in one frame and repeat it every so often? The result would be hypnotic commands to drink coke or buy a certain brand of ciggarettes?

It's sort of like that, except you go over and entire book or Ebook of your choosing and all you have to do is flip through a book fast and all the info will go directly to your subconcious. Repeated sessions with one book will give your brain to take time to sort out all of the information, one way of sorting it out is in dreams.
The other night i knew i was having a dream sorting out some of the info i was reading but it was too vague to remember.

Photo reading technique: You know when you put your index finger in front of your face and if it's close enough you see two fingers? train your eyes to do the same thing with objects at a distance (using your finger as a reference helps). Take a book or Ebook and unfocus your eyes the same way and flip through the book fast. I take in about 3 pages a second!

My results so far: I passed The learning drivers test and i only actually read a few pages. I did 3-4 photoreading sessions with the driver's manual.

Then i tried Tha Game by Neil Strauss. A book related to the underground seduction community. I photo read it forward and backwards. after 2 sessions I noticed I was thinking all sorts of thoughts that i don't usually think of.

An example: Learning "pickup" , which is really a crude term for Socialising, Is actually good because, of all the crimes Adolescent Males commit as the result of sexually frustrated drives, Including rape, theft, peeping perversion behavior. By Teaching adolescents the skills of how to get along with females, and get along with themselves, It would actually prevent such violent behavior.

I went to the book i had photo read and opened a random page and read a paragraph. The paragraph had said the exact same thing that i was thinking. not only that, But my own personality put it's own twist on that idea. It was almost as if my hand sub conciously selected the page.

The guy who introduced me to photoreading Did his girlfriends Exams in the subjects she failed to study, he had only photoread her textbooks and he passed just on the passing mark.

I'm gonna try this firther hehehe!

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You are totally welcome. I feel the same about your comments in my DJ.

Photo reading?? I have never heard of it. I don't really understand how that could work...especially if you are looking past the words and they are all blurred. Not that I am doubting you. I know the mind is an amazing thing. It seems that if this really worked everyone would be doing it. But I suppose I could say the exact same thing about Lucid Dreaming.... :-P

Yeah it's hard to tell if it works sometimes. you need repetition to see the results. The mind is indeed an amazing thing. We are only aware of about 10 bits of information, while the sub concious is storing thousands of bits per second. The suc concious is seperate and not entirely aware of our concious mind. it only responds to what we feed it constantly and it molds our thoughts and behaviors accordingly. In essence, if you consistently talk to yourself in a bad, or negative way, your subconcious will actually give you more of that. That's why i tend to avoid people that have no confidence in themselves, they say things like "Oh i could NEVER do that, Or i could NEVER be that" ever notice how certain people that talk this way, never accomplish much in regards to personal achievements? just a thought.


Dreams

Dream 1: All i remember is that i was listening to "the Final Countdown" by europe. I actually sung that last night at the bar lol.

Dream2: very shifty dream, I was out trying to socialise but for some reason i was holding back and not talking to anyone much.

Dream3: i was watching T.V. and i saw a "187" on the screen, it reminded me of my screen name lol.

my recall has been rather slow the past couple days.

I Have had a few HI dreams while i was listening to these Hypnotic inductions. http://hypnotica.org/Audio/Double_Induction_Hyp.mp3

I was lying in bed listening to this and suddenly i was at a club standing between two doorways in a hallway. I felt a hand on my shoulder and turned around, It was a woman with with gorgeous eyes. She traced her hand around to my chest and kept walking forward with her head looking back over her shoulder as if to say "Follow me". I suddenly realised i was dreaming and i found myself in bed again still listening to the induction.

Steve P: in this dream i met the guy who did the induction. He was in a room at the top of a tall building. I was trying to arrange a meeting with him so i could ask him more about his NLP. when i got to the top I knocked on his door and i could see he was busy with someone. He could tell I was earnest so he said that he would speak with me later. He looked me in the eye in a strange manner as he shut the door.

hey ranma, I've never tried an induction mp3 before. How does it for you? Do you just listen to it while falling asleep?

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For me it took a lot of practice and effort. you just basically RELAX and close your eyes, And just allow the process to take effect, You'll eventually go under regardles off wether you pay attention or not. the MP3 i linked to is basically just to take you into trance and gives hypnotic commands to improve memory.

I actually Made a 15 minute induction yesterday for lucid dreaming based on the kind of thing you hear in that MP3. and after a few listens before bed i actually had a satisfying LD!!!

Dream1: I was walking in Calgary somewhere. There was snow on the ground and it was late at night. I was walking a few blocks until i spotted some people. for some reason i followed them into an alley way.

I decided to turn back but the route i came in was gone. I was cold and i found shelter in a warehouse. As i was looking around the warehouse the realization struck me that I am dreaming.

I was so excited that i began to run around cheering that i'd finally done it. I was so excited that i almost forgot what to do. I looked at my hands and began making quick glances at everything, starting from my hands and looking at other objects in a systematic fashion. Every object seemed to be stabalising until i spotted a goulish looking jacket of some sort, made of a rough cloth. It was hanging up and seemed to be moving around. Curiosity got the better of me and i went to grab it.

As soon as i touched it it seemed to wrap around me. i began spinning, or everything began to spin around me, the dream was changing. I was being pulled into a vortex of some sort and lost lucidity.


Dream 2: Very shifty dream. i was in a basement of a large building. I was with some friends. we were trying to bust an old lady that exploited people for money.

Good job on the LD. 8)

And that's great that you remembered to look at your hand and stabalize everything. I hope I can remember that in my next LD.

Keep it up!

I listened to the induction again. no lucids but some very vivid dreams. It seems the hypnotic commands i put in apply to almost any night wether lucid or not.... if that makes sense. I might refine it and upload it if i get the Chance!

Hero: All i remember is that some Woman needed help. She was dangling off an icy, and rocky cliff. I was going to try and save her but as i kept getting closer to her the more sharp and cold the rock edges.

Suddenly it occured to me that i could change the weather. Out of nowhere appeared a wood frame. I Held onto it and peered through. I saw a picture of the same landscape, only in the picture it was a Warm sunny day. As i moved the picture around, so did the scenery perfectly congruent with the landscape. I had a hunch and stepped through the frame. Sure enough, I was on the same landscape only the weather was different. (note: On my induction one of the hypnotic commands is "The scenery changes" coincidence???)

I heard a call for help, which reminded me of what i needed to do. I pulled a rope out of thin air and ran towards the cliff she was dangling from. I threw it over just enough so she could reach it. She climbed up it, and after she calmed down, she smiled at me. Now if i were lucid, I would've been able to complete the lucid task of asking her to be my valentine. But, alas, I wasn't :-(. She said "My hero!!!" and tried to kiss me. For reasons beyond me I refused. Instead I walked her back to a hotel with my arm around her back.

Free smoke: False awakening from the dream. I woke up and my roomates were sitting around drinking beer and smoking. They saw i was a bit pissed from them making noise and waking me up, so they handed me a smoke already lit.

Then i really woke up and everyone was asleep.

The Hero came back: I was back at the hotel with the woman i saved. Only she had hsorter hair. She was blonde with dazzling eyes. I remember making out with her on a couch. the rest is blurry.

$$: My roomate handed me a $20 bill. I put it into my pocket. a minute later i pulled it out. there seemed to be more than one bill. I separated them and realised i had forty. Yet, there seemed to be another bill. I separated the second bill and i had 60. i did this until i had a full $100!

Bad recall the past few days.


I do remember blurry images...

Gotta whip through this quick, got karaoke tonight!


Dream1: I was back in didsbury, which actually looked like calgary. to pay a visit to my Friend with benefits. I knocked on her door and someone i didn't recognise came out. I asked if they knew where she was. they said she moved to another condo in the same complex. I looked for it but couldn't find it. I went back into the old condo and looked around. i saw she had packed most of her stuff and still had a few family picturs hanging up.


Dream2: I went back to ontario to live with my old room mate Dan. He was happy to see me.

Dream3: i was hangiong out with a member from the seduction community known as Mystery. He hadn't shaved in months and looked like a street bum, yet he was making out with the most georgeous woman i had ever seen.

That's a pretty bold title for your DJ. I expect to see big things here.

It's high time I got off the couch and back on the sorcer's path myself, my lucidity was so much better when I was.

So any other sorcerers around here? I see a lot of hand looker aters, but that could mean anything.

Some quick questions:

I saw you mention dream gates, which one are you at?

Ever seen? You know what I mean.

And how long you been at it?

And could you give me a link to that mirror thread you mentioned?

Congrats on the LD, man, I just had one the other night too.

Looks like we both got the hand-looking down, huh? :P

Hey--I just had a night full of LDs...and I looked at my hands twice and my foot once...LOL.

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That's a pretty bold title for your DJ. I expect to see big things here.

It's high time I got off the couch and back on the sorcer's path myself, my lucidity was so much better when I was.

So any other sorcerers around here? I see a lot of hand looker aters, but that could mean anything.

Some quick questions:

I saw you mention dream gates, which one are you at?

Ever seen? You know what I mean.

And how long you been at it?

And could you give me a link to that mirror thread you mentioned?
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Haha a fellow brotha on the path! as for gates I'm at the second. The last lucid where i found my hands the thing that i touched was a scout hence the vortex. Unfortunately i don't remember arriving at it's realm. I've probly been at sorcery it for over half a year.

Oh the mirror thing. very simple technique: gaze at any mirror for a fixed period. unfocus your eyes and try not to blink. Stare directly at your reflection until your face begins to change have an intent in your mind. for me it was to perfect the look of my dreambody. hopefully the sub concious will recognise your features. I'm not sure if there's any connection but i started getting mirror dreams when i began to practice this. and my hands begun to look normal whenever i looked at them, instead of being too big ,hairy or green like they used to be.

As for seeing, Not really. i've seen in dreaming. somewhere in this DJ there's a lucid where i saw my double. I think i had the sensation of seeing in it. The best way i can describe it is like you see but not with your eyes. Like CC said in "...Silence" It was not as the result of light hitting my retina. it was more like i had tenticles that could touch things, and that would produce the seeing... if that makes any sense lol.

Thanks TS and CB. I will check that stuff out! sorry for not being here. i was ill the past week plus the weather prevented me from walking anywhere.

Last weeks dreams:

Nagual Stew: I was on a ranch somewhere isolated from any city. I was with a Nagual, don't remember his name. But i remember talking with him and amybe someone else. He mentioned he had to leave this place. As he was talking he was mixing up some herbs in a pot and making some sort of tea or stew. i asked him what it was for. He said that drinking the substance he was making was the gateway out of this this place.

He then poured teh substance into three separate bowls. He handed one for me and instructed me to drink it only after he had drunk his portion. I don't remember who or what the third bowl went to. I watched him drink it. i turned my head away for a second and looked back. he was gone. Then i drank my portion. as soon as i drank the last protion i woke up.

Slide: this happened Friday night i think after i left the karaoke bar. anyway in the dream i was at a swimming pool. i climbed to the top where there is a huge water slide. at the top and entrance to the slide there stands the bouncer from the karaoke bar. There is no water on the slide and the bouncer is throwing people down the slide if they refuse to go down it at their own will. I go willingly and tell him to give me a boost. He pushes me down the slide and i go fro a bit but then i stop in the middle of the slide.

I don't know how to get down.

more later.

One dream from last night.

The Witches dream: I was inside of an old medevil building. i remember walking out side. It was night out. I had to pee or something so i was looking for a safe place to do so. I turned a corner and saw a small doorway witha passage leading down. I knew witches hung out there so i ignored the door and kept walking. I glanced inside for a brief second and saw a hooded figure with a lantern making it's way down a corridor.

I walked to a shadowy spot where two outside walls met. As i walked towards it i got consumed by blackness. I suddenly couldn't see where i was going. I turned around and saw nothing. I was in pure blackness.


Damnit my recall has been bad all week. I need a hug!

OK my recall got a BIT better lately.

I gotta start jotting down keywords again. and damn most of the dreams are slipping my mind.

Dream1: I was in a dream and Twoshadows was there! In the dream TS was having amnesia about a particular car accident she had gotten into recently. I was a hypnotist trying to help her recall lost details, but not of the accident. but of the dreams she was having the night before the accident. And as i was helping her recall her dreams she began to giggle at some of the details she was remembering. I remember them being quite funny but i forgot what they were.

This dream probably had something to do with the NLP book i was reading the other night, because in one of the passages i read just before bed they were talking about amnesia and getting the memories back through NLP.


Dream2: In this dream i was in a van that could fly. i remember taking off and landing on the same spot. each flight someone different was with me.

Haha...that's great. I love showing up in other people's dreams. :)

Hmmm, don't seem to recall a car accident, though. But that's right.....(amnesia).


And I wonder what I was giggling about..... :hrm:

:chuckle:


Hope your recall keeps improving! I'm glad the dream about me wasn't one of those forgotten.

I've been on an off the sorcerer's path for about 15 years now, and in all that time, Ive only managed to see once. It happened in the middle of a huge outdoor concert. Strange that while my vision was completely shifted, I could hear normally. I totally took me by suprise and I fell an twisted my ankle really bad. Actually, before it happened, I had an overwhelming urge to sit down, but the ground was all wet. That's the last time I ignore those urges.

SOme reading material for you... http://www.anandgholap.net

A treasure trove or books available there. Seems to me to fill in the details castenada left out.