Thread: Dreams Of Ranma187

Wow...that is an interesting and complex dream.

i had a full view of my Double. he looked like me in every way. He wore my leather jacket and shirt. he stood with the same posture as me. EVERY detail was in place. [/b]

That must have been very strange. I don't remember ever having a "Double" dream of myself.

I knew if we made eye contact with our left eyes we would both die.[/b]

Ooo.... Did you figure out why that was?

What i experienced can't be explained in a rational way because A: there were no thoughts. B: the sensations seemed to be a part of my body but seperate from me at the same time.[/b]

I think that is interesting. So you had no internal dialogue throughout the entire dream?

but i could see a look in his eyes. Simply they were cold and indifferent with complete lack of pity. If i had seen this in my normal state of awareness i would probably pass out of fright. but lack of internal diologue eliminated any possibility of being frightened.[/b]

Very creepy. I don't ever want to see myself this way. In retrospect, do you find it frightening.... or fascinating?






I still feel like I'm a little fuzzy on the different "gates" and different tasks at the gates.

If I remember right, the "first gate" is finding your hands and keeping them from changing and stablizing your environment. Is that right?

And here is what I found about you talking about the second gate, Was there more--did I miss it? I'm still only slightly recovered from everything. I've probably missed all kinds of things.

The Second Gate of Dreaming: Pick a specific place, another dream and go there. NOT to be confused with false awakenings.

To change the dream or go to a specific place. simply will it without thought. to transport yourself to a distant location: gaze at a faraway object and let it pull you there. the transition should be instant.[/b]

And I noticed that you did that in this dream. But also is there a part of the second gate that has to do with seeing yourself?

I feel like I am lacking the knowledge to give this dream a proper analysis. But regardless, it is a very interesting dream. And maybe you can fill me in a little.

Originally Posted by Twoshadows

Wow...that is an interesting and complex dream.

That must have been very strange. I don't remember ever having a "Double" dream of myself. [/b]

haha good they are freaky.

Ooo.... Did you figure out why that was?[/b]

Well, i use to read a lot of creepy books based on shamanism from ancient mexico. and i read somewhere that to become face to face with your dreambody or double would mean death. I'm not saying that i beleive all this crazy stuff, but none the less i find it interesting, interesting enough to see for myself what's what.

But basically a persons double is their dream/astral body. everytime a person dreams outside of thier head into the astral plane, or someone elses dream they are in thier dreambody. The dream body is supposed to be able to retain it's awareness when you aren't present in it. It is aware of you but not always the other way around. Supposedly it can travel around the world in the blink of an eye.

I don't really know enough myself to explain what's what. i mean, if you have a dream of me how can you tell the difference between your version of me, and my astral body travelling to your dream? it's rather impossible to tell or even ponder LOL.

I think that is interesting. So you had no internal dialogue throughout the entire dream?[/b]

Yes, everything that I did was very instinctual. it was like i had the unability to second guess myself. it's also the kind of state some martial artists try to achieve because without internal diologue obstructing their view what's left? perception and decisive action.

Very creepy. I don't ever want to see myself this way. In retrospect, do you find it frightening.... or fascinating?[/b]

A bit of both. I mean, months ago i managed through meditation to enter a state where it felt like i was THAT person. it didn't feel like me at all. i had no desires for anything, a complete lack of pity for myself or others. but what was also interesting was that the state was also void of negative intentions - even though i was indifferent i didn't seek to harm anyobody or anything.

I still feel like I'm a little fuzzy on the different "gates" and different tasks at the gates.

If I remember right, the "first gate" is finding your hands and keeping them from changing and stablizing your environment. Is that right?

And here is what I found about you talking about the second gate, Was there more--did I miss it? I'm still only slightly recovered from everything. I've probably missed all kinds of things.
And I noticed that you did that in this dream. But also is there a part of the second gate that has to do with seeing yourself?[/b]

right on about the tasks. Keep in mind tho that the excercises are mere drills, the results and knowledge accumulated from those drills is specific to every individual and in some cases a very personal matter.

Why my double was present i don't know. but i can speculate that i started the drill task due to circumstance:
i was facing death. had it been another dream, i might've forgotten my task and flew instead. this all sounds wierd... i can hardly believe this myself. i don't know what to think about this stuff sometimes LOL

in any case i hope all this talk doesn't scare you away from trying the gates. really it all comes down to belief.

Dreams from Sunday night.

Gold Specks: I was in a strange reality. i was floating in a white space that seemed to go on forever. in this space were gold specks, they were so small. but i had a feeling there was something significant about them.

then i was a black space floating around. i saw in the distance two candle like shapes. they were glimmering and emiting an amber glow. I thought that they were my 2 DV adoptees. i floated toward them because i wanted to say something to them. As i got closer another candle like shape appeared behind me. it was trying to keep me from getting to them. i tried to ignore it and turned again towards the 2 other shapes. i suddenly got dizzy and couldn't move any farther. The shape behind me was causing the dizziness. when i gave in and turned towards the other shape. i woke up.

Old Indian: i was sitting in a cabin somewhere talking to an old Indian man. i forget what we were talking about but he calmly pointed at the window behind me and said, "Look".

there was a huge tornado behind me.


*curious: I've never had a tornado dream before.



One dream.

someones esles lucid:

I was reading someones dream journal. the person had a lucid with me in it. i could see my name in it but i couldn't read anything else.

DAMNIT! i wanted to know what that dream said!