Congratulations, ranma. :teeth:
And that twister dream sounds awesome. :shock:
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Congratulations, ranma. :teeth:
And that twister dream sounds awesome. :shock:
Thanks a lot guys.
Twoshadows, the recollection got me thinking. Day after day countless people are going to shrinks and therapy reliving not good, but BAD repressed memories. What a lot of people don't see is that this form of "therapy" doesn't actually help the person. why? because they learn to blame their problems on their childhood and other people. What this does is attain and maintain their role as "victim". and really it's quite nice to be a victim because then you don't ever have to be responsible for yourself. It's sad really.
Now, what if, instead of making them relive bad memories, but memories that emphasise the persons strengths. Then they would have something to FEEL GOOD about themselves. This Feeling good would probably motivate a person to conquer their fears and accomplish more in life. just a thought:)
dreams:
Labrynth:
I was following someone through a whole bunch of winding halls and doorways. We made a few circles through the underground building but the passages seemed to change everytime. The man seemed to be showing me a pattern of some sort - Even though the passages change and never stay the same, if you follow the pattern correctly it will eventually lead you to your destination.
I followed him mercilessly until it suddenly, it appeared we were Underground. We were now in a labrynth and the man left me on my own to follow the pattern he showed me. I followed the pattern to the best of my recollection. I seemed to be running on instinct. I realised that I didn't need to think about the pattern because I had already internalised it. Within a few minutes I jumped from a ledge and landed on a box where I found a woman who seemed to be lost. I led her by the hand until we reached the exit.
At the exit we stood at downtown toronto. Only it was a DREAM downtown toronto. I saw dome like shapes lit up like christmas trees. I was no longer aware of the woman, or she had left. to my left I saw people heading down a street that obviously led to the subway. I followed them.
Snow: I was on the forum That Steve (the seduction seminar instructor from the workshop i took in september.) recently built. I posted a progress report of my doings over the past few months. 1 lay, a Mediocre woman I turned into my tantric labrat, and that my social skills were improving. i could walk into a bar or club in the right mindset and infiltrate a social circle and make new friends. Women no longer look at me funny when i saw "hi" or buy them a drink. i figure it's because now I've had good sex and realise it's not all that it's cracked out to be, even though it feels pretty damn good lol, i no longer come a cross as needy, therefore I can be myself around them. problems: I think about myself too much instead of letting myself go in the process. because of this, when I think back on the previous night, i realised i was getting hints and invitations from them but I was too self concious to notice them.
Steve replied with something like: although i was becoming more aware and eble to enjoy the process. something in me was missing the point: to relax, have fun, and make sure everyone's having fun. I had to stop thinking about sex so much.
Annoying caller: My FWBs called me at work. She was wondering if i'd be able to take a bus to see her, she would help pay for the ticket. Her co-worker kept stealing the phone and kept bugging me for intimate details about what i do with her. i kept ignoring the guy. She gabbed the phone back and got out a few words but her co worker grabbed it back and insisted on details. this happened a few times and i just shrugged and hung up.
Subway: i was staring at the street that led to the subway from my previous dream. i thought "so i didn't just dream it, this place is actually real"
only one dream:
I was in Chilliwack B.C. by little mountain with a brown haired woman around my age that i just met. she mentioned she was in martial arts. i said "Really i've been wanting to take some form of martial art for some time now"
her: Really you should join my class and be my sparring partner :wink:
that's all i remember.
And Woohoooo! I just moved to calgary yesterday.
Dreams.
The Game: I was at a party of some sort. and a bunch of guys were holding and reading "the Game " by Neil Strauss.
Boopsy: I was at a nightclub of some sort talking to some boopsy. I forget most of the conversation by she leaned into me after a while and whispered "let's go someplace quiet".
She grabbed me by the hnd and started dragging me to another part of the club. I squeezed her hand and she squeezed back. Game on. she led me down a hall with a loveseat at the end. I think we were making out or something and she opened her shirt and said "touch me". i looked around the hallway and people were still walking around, I've never done anything like that in public so i wasn't sure what to do. She kept Kinoing me (kinesthetic touch) and begging me to play with her breasts.
after a minute of teasing i said "I'll suck em too." then stuck my tounge out and swung it back and forth to tease her a bit. Then i looked at her breasts and her nipples were shifting colors and size. i was a bit shocked at the strange sight. she saw my hesitation and whispered in my ear. "if you suck my tits you can kiss me down there" making a down gesture with her eyes. i shrugged and then started sucking her right breast, lashing my toungue in a side to side manner across her nipple. i began massaging her right breast in the manner like i'd seen in a video from www.sensualawakening.com . i then squeesed a bit just under her cupline. she began to moan loudly and then i woke up!
Well got Smashed last night and suprisingly i remembered a few dreams.
Dream1: i remember this being an extremely long dream but all i can remember is that i was at a bar with some short blonde girl. There was lots of Physical touching and stuff.
Dream2: i was having coffee with a bunch of people. Some really old lady was flirting and trying to take me home. ewww. I think i was talking to Steve, and 26 (A guy from the seduction comminuty) they were both saying i was doing pretty well in my excursions.
i think the dreams were related to what i was doing last night : http://fastseduction.com/discussion/fs?act...2276&fid=24
Dreams from the past few days.
DV jukebox: There was an option on DV where you could install an DV mp3 player. Each DV member could upload tracks and even make their own playlists. another cool option was the ability to listen to other DV members' playlists!
T.V.: I was sitting in bed watching T.V. the picture became fuzzy so i reached up to fix the dial. when my hands went by the screen they became transparent. I switched the channel and all i got was fuzzy static. I ran my hands over the t.v. again and my hands went all fuzzy as if all the molecules were separating forming a mist.
Hands: i was watching t.v. again and i saw my hands again. i knew i was lucid. i tried floating towards the tv but everything got shaky. i moved a few feet but then i stopped and couldn't get throught like there was a force field.
I lost the view but then i saw my hands again a few3 times.
Hands (from last night): i kept seeing my hands rise in front of my face, thy kept changing. at one point i saw them covered in drywall mud
Parralel Universe: i was watching T.V. with my brother. on the t.v. was my brother, but the one on t.v. was different. he had a totally different demeanor. me and my brother concluded we were watching t.v. from a parallel universe.
Who's that: i was walking down a hall and i saw a couple sitting. one looked like X, and i was thinking "oh no not again" but i saw she had a different face. i woke up instantly.
and this signifies no X dreams for a month... WOOOHOOOO!
Wow...TVs and hands....
You always have those "hands" dreams. I started to have some for a while (after reading about yours, I think). I always thought it was very interesting to look at my hands in my dreams. I need to remember that for next time.
Keep it up...and I hope you have a really long LD soon. :)
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I hope so too. I've been doing a lot of WBTB type stuff, it seems i've trained myself to wake up at night. This is good, since i try to practice WILD a lot. since practicing it seems i've been having the mini lucids more often, each time they get a little longer and stranger. I'm sure if i keep at it i'll be having long lucids in no time. I was getting pretty frustrated, i haven't had a long satisfying lucid in months!
Oh and thanks for stopping by so often, and for all the support It's cool to have people like you around :wink: I do appreciate it!
Anyway i left something out. I was having other short dreams related to Photo Reading.
About photo reading: You know those old films where they would put subliminal advertising in one frame and repeat it every so often? The result would be hypnotic commands to drink coke or buy a certain brand of ciggarettes?
It's sort of like that, except you go over and entire book or Ebook of your choosing and all you have to do is flip through a book fast and all the info will go directly to your subconcious. Repeated sessions with one book will give your brain to take time to sort out all of the information, one way of sorting it out is in dreams.
The other night i knew i was having a dream sorting out some of the info i was reading but it was too vague to remember.
Photo reading technique: You know when you put your index finger in front of your face and if it's close enough you see two fingers? train your eyes to do the same thing with objects at a distance (using your finger as a reference helps). Take a book or Ebook and unfocus your eyes the same way and flip through the book fast. I take in about 3 pages a second!
My results so far: I passed The learning drivers test and i only actually read a few pages. I did 3-4 photoreading sessions with the driver's manual.
Then i tried Tha Game by Neil Strauss. A book related to the underground seduction community. I photo read it forward and backwards. after 2 sessions I noticed I was thinking all sorts of thoughts that i don't usually think of.
An example: Learning "pickup" , which is really a crude term for Socialising, Is actually good because, of all the crimes Adolescent Males commit as the result of sexually frustrated drives, Including rape, theft, peeping perversion behavior. By Teaching adolescents the skills of how to get along with females, and get along with themselves, It would actually prevent such violent behavior.
I went to the book i had photo read and opened a random page and read a paragraph. The paragraph had said the exact same thing that i was thinking. not only that, But my own personality put it's own twist on that idea. It was almost as if my hand sub conciously selected the page.
The guy who introduced me to photoreading Did his girlfriends Exams in the subjects she failed to study, he had only photoread her textbooks and he passed just on the passing mark.
I'm gonna try this firther hehehe!
You are totally welcome. I feel the same about your comments in my DJ.Quote:
Oh and thanks for stopping by so often, and for all the support It's cool to have people like you around I do appreciate it![/b]
Photo reading?? I have never heard of it. I don't really understand how that could work...especially if you are looking past the words and they are all blurred. Not that I am doubting you. I know the mind is an amazing thing. It seems that if this really worked everyone would be doing it. But I suppose I could say the exact same thing about Lucid Dreaming.... :-P
Yeah it's hard to tell if it works sometimes. you need repetition to see the results. The mind is indeed an amazing thing. We are only aware of about 10 bits of information, while the sub concious is storing thousands of bits per second. The suc concious is seperate and not entirely aware of our concious mind. it only responds to what we feed it constantly and it molds our thoughts and behaviors accordingly. In essence, if you consistently talk to yourself in a bad, or negative way, your subconcious will actually give you more of that. That's why i tend to avoid people that have no confidence in themselves, they say things like "Oh i could NEVER do that, Or i could NEVER be that" ever notice how certain people that talk this way, never accomplish much in regards to personal achievements? just a thought.
Dreams
Dream 1: All i remember is that i was listening to "the Final Countdown" by europe. I actually sung that last night at the bar lol.
Dream2: very shifty dream, I was out trying to socialise but for some reason i was holding back and not talking to anyone much.
Dream3: i was watching T.V. and i saw a "187" on the screen, it reminded me of my screen name lol.
my recall has been rather slow the past couple days.
I Have had a few HI dreams while i was listening to these Hypnotic inductions. http://hypnotica.org/Audio/Double_Induction_Hyp.mp3
I was lying in bed listening to this and suddenly i was at a club standing between two doorways in a hallway. I felt a hand on my shoulder and turned around, It was a woman with with gorgeous eyes. She traced her hand around to my chest and kept walking forward with her head looking back over her shoulder as if to say "Follow me". I suddenly realised i was dreaming and i found myself in bed again still listening to the induction.
Steve P: in this dream i met the guy who did the induction. He was in a room at the top of a tall building. I was trying to arrange a meeting with him so i could ask him more about his NLP. when i got to the top I knocked on his door and i could see he was busy with someone. He could tell I was earnest so he said that he would speak with me later. He looked me in the eye in a strange manner as he shut the door.
hey ranma, I've never tried an induction mp3 before. How does it for you? Do you just listen to it while falling asleep?
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For me it took a lot of practice and effort. you just basically RELAX and close your eyes, And just allow the process to take effect, You'll eventually go under regardles off wether you pay attention or not. the MP3 i linked to is basically just to take you into trance and gives hypnotic commands to improve memory.
I actually Made a 15 minute induction yesterday for lucid dreaming based on the kind of thing you hear in that MP3. and after a few listens before bed i actually had a satisfying LD!!!
Dream1: I was walking in Calgary somewhere. There was snow on the ground and it was late at night. I was walking a few blocks until i spotted some people. for some reason i followed them into an alley way.
I decided to turn back but the route i came in was gone. I was cold and i found shelter in a warehouse. As i was looking around the warehouse the realization struck me that I am dreaming.
I was so excited that i began to run around cheering that i'd finally done it. I was so excited that i almost forgot what to do. I looked at my hands and began making quick glances at everything, starting from my hands and looking at other objects in a systematic fashion. Every object seemed to be stabalising until i spotted a goulish looking jacket of some sort, made of a rough cloth. It was hanging up and seemed to be moving around. Curiosity got the better of me and i went to grab it.
As soon as i touched it it seemed to wrap around me. i began spinning, or everything began to spin around me, the dream was changing. I was being pulled into a vortex of some sort and lost lucidity.
Dream 2: Very shifty dream. i was in a basement of a large building. I was with some friends. we were trying to bust an old lady that exploited people for money.
Good job on the LD. 8)
And that's great that you remembered to look at your hand and stabalize everything. I hope I can remember that in my next LD.
Keep it up!
I listened to the induction again. no lucids but some very vivid dreams. It seems the hypnotic commands i put in apply to almost any night wether lucid or not.... if that makes sense. I might refine it and upload it if i get the Chance!
Hero: All i remember is that some Woman needed help. She was dangling off an icy, and rocky cliff. I was going to try and save her but as i kept getting closer to her the more sharp and cold the rock edges.
Suddenly it occured to me that i could change the weather. Out of nowhere appeared a wood frame. I Held onto it and peered through. I saw a picture of the same landscape, only in the picture it was a Warm sunny day. As i moved the picture around, so did the scenery perfectly congruent with the landscape. I had a hunch and stepped through the frame. Sure enough, I was on the same landscape only the weather was different. (note: On my induction one of the hypnotic commands is "The scenery changes" coincidence???)
I heard a call for help, which reminded me of what i needed to do. I pulled a rope out of thin air and ran towards the cliff she was dangling from. I threw it over just enough so she could reach it. She climbed up it, and after she calmed down, she smiled at me. Now if i were lucid, I would've been able to complete the lucid task of asking her to be my valentine. But, alas, I wasn't :-(. She said "My hero!!!" and tried to kiss me. For reasons beyond me I refused. Instead I walked her back to a hotel with my arm around her back.
Free smoke: False awakening from the dream. I woke up and my roomates were sitting around drinking beer and smoking. They saw i was a bit pissed from them making noise and waking me up, so they handed me a smoke already lit.
Then i really woke up and everyone was asleep.
The Hero came back: I was back at the hotel with the woman i saved. Only she had hsorter hair. She was blonde with dazzling eyes. I remember making out with her on a couch. the rest is blurry.
$$: My roomate handed me a $20 bill. I put it into my pocket. a minute later i pulled it out. there seemed to be more than one bill. I separated them and realised i had forty. Yet, there seemed to be another bill. I separated the second bill and i had 60. i did this until i had a full $100!
Bad recall the past few days.
I do remember blurry images...
Gotta whip through this quick, got karaoke tonight!
Dream1: I was back in didsbury, which actually looked like calgary. to pay a visit to my Friend with benefits. I knocked on her door and someone i didn't recognise came out. I asked if they knew where she was. they said she moved to another condo in the same complex. I looked for it but couldn't find it. I went back into the old condo and looked around. i saw she had packed most of her stuff and still had a few family picturs hanging up.
Dream2: I went back to ontario to live with my old room mate Dan. He was happy to see me.
Dream3: i was hangiong out with a member from the seduction community known as Mystery. He hadn't shaved in months and looked like a street bum, yet he was making out with the most georgeous woman i had ever seen.
That's a pretty bold title for your DJ. I expect to see big things here.
It's high time I got off the couch and back on the sorcer's path myself, my lucidity was so much better when I was.
So any other sorcerers around here? I see a lot of hand looker aters, but that could mean anything.
Some quick questions:
I saw you mention dream gates, which one are you at?
Ever seen? You know what I mean.
And how long you been at it?
And could you give me a link to that mirror thread you mentioned?
Congrats on the LD, man, I just had one the other night too.
Looks like we both got the hand-looking down, huh? :P
Hey--I just had a night full of LDs...and I looked at my hands twice and my foot once...LOL.
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Haha a fellow brotha on the path! as for gates I'm at the second. The last lucid where i found my hands the thing that i touched was a scout hence the vortex. Unfortunately i don't remember arriving at it's realm. I've probly been at sorcery it for over half a year.
Oh the mirror thing. very simple technique: gaze at any mirror for a fixed period. unfocus your eyes and try not to blink. Stare directly at your reflection until your face begins to change have an intent in your mind. for me it was to perfect the look of my dreambody. hopefully the sub concious will recognise your features. I'm not sure if there's any connection but i started getting mirror dreams when i began to practice this. and my hands begun to look normal whenever i looked at them, instead of being too big ,hairy or green like they used to be.
As for seeing, Not really. i've seen in dreaming. somewhere in this DJ there's a lucid where i saw my double. I think i had the sensation of seeing in it. The best way i can describe it is like you see but not with your eyes. Like CC said in "...Silence" It was not as the result of light hitting my retina. it was more like i had tenticles that could touch things, and that would produce the seeing... if that makes any sense lol.
Thanks TS and CB. I will check that stuff out! sorry for not being here. i was ill the past week plus the weather prevented me from walking anywhere.
Last weeks dreams:
Nagual Stew: I was on a ranch somewhere isolated from any city. I was with a Nagual, don't remember his name. But i remember talking with him and amybe someone else. He mentioned he had to leave this place. As he was talking he was mixing up some herbs in a pot and making some sort of tea or stew. i asked him what it was for. He said that drinking the substance he was making was the gateway out of this this place.
He then poured teh substance into three separate bowls. He handed one for me and instructed me to drink it only after he had drunk his portion. I don't remember who or what the third bowl went to. I watched him drink it. i turned my head away for a second and looked back. he was gone. Then i drank my portion. as soon as i drank the last protion i woke up.
Slide: this happened Friday night i think after i left the karaoke bar. anyway in the dream i was at a swimming pool. i climbed to the top where there is a huge water slide. at the top and entrance to the slide there stands the bouncer from the karaoke bar. There is no water on the slide and the bouncer is throwing people down the slide if they refuse to go down it at their own will. I go willingly and tell him to give me a boost. He pushes me down the slide and i go fro a bit but then i stop in the middle of the slide.
I don't know how to get down.
more later.
One dream from last night.
The Witches dream: I was inside of an old medevil building. i remember walking out side. It was night out. I had to pee or something so i was looking for a safe place to do so. I turned a corner and saw a small doorway witha passage leading down. I knew witches hung out there so i ignored the door and kept walking. I glanced inside for a brief second and saw a hooded figure with a lantern making it's way down a corridor.
I walked to a shadowy spot where two outside walls met. As i walked towards it i got consumed by blackness. I suddenly couldn't see where i was going. I turned around and saw nothing. I was in pure blackness.
Damnit my recall has been bad all week. I need a hug!
OK my recall got a BIT better lately.
I gotta start jotting down keywords again. and damn most of the dreams are slipping my mind.
Dream1: I was in a dream and Twoshadows was there! In the dream TS was having amnesia about a particular car accident she had gotten into recently. I was a hypnotist trying to help her recall lost details, but not of the accident. but of the dreams she was having the night before the accident. And as i was helping her recall her dreams she began to giggle at some of the details she was remembering. I remember them being quite funny but i forgot what they were.
This dream probably had something to do with the NLP book i was reading the other night, because in one of the passages i read just before bed they were talking about amnesia and getting the memories back through NLP.
Dream2: In this dream i was in a van that could fly. i remember taking off and landing on the same spot. each flight someone different was with me.
Haha...that's great. I love showing up in other people's dreams. :)
Hmmm, don't seem to recall a car accident, though. But that's right.....(amnesia).
And I wonder what I was giggling about..... :hrm:
:chuckle:
Hope your recall keeps improving! I'm glad the dream about me wasn't one of those forgotten.
I've been on an off the sorcerer's path for about 15 years now, and in all that time, Ive only managed to see once. It happened in the middle of a huge outdoor concert. Strange that while my vision was completely shifted, I could hear normally. I totally took me by suprise and I fell an twisted my ankle really bad. Actually, before it happened, I had an overwhelming urge to sit down, but the ground was all wet. That's the last time I ignore those urges.
SOme reading material for you... http://www.anandgholap.net
A treasure trove or books available there. Seems to me to fill in the details castenada left out.