Odd Dream: Part 2 - WARNING: Somewhat mature

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09-03-2009, 02:24 AM
JadeTora

Odd Dream: Part 2 - WARNING: Somewhat mature

So I went to sleep today and strangely enough after discussing the dream I had when I was eleven, I've had another quite like it.

This time, I started off in a forest. It was night as it was in the last dream and I was lounging on a bed of leaves, I suppose it was. I felt relaxed and fairly good, the breeze was cool and crisp again and the ground was soft and comfortable, I was just lazing around.

I started to get the distinct feeling that I was being watched. I know I was looking around, I wasn't moving specifically because I thought if something was watching me I'd like it to think perhaps that I was dead if it was stalking me, but then I heard kind of a giggle I guess.. Although at the same time it was a bit off, it didn't sound exactly like a giggle it sounded a little.. Sharp.. I shot up or tried to, at least. A bit startled by the sound and now on guard.. Well, I tried to.. By time my back had left the ground and I started to feel my hair slide against the ground I became aware that I was suddenly surrounded and three hands were on my chest holding me in place with little to no effort.

I was stunned, sufficed to say.. I kept somewhat of a cool head and as quickly as I could got a look at what was behind me and it was all three of the girls from my previous dream. Dressed in victorian style gowns, very expensive looking and this time I could see more detailed embroidery - The gowns themselves were a deep dark red and appeared and felt to be velvet, the embroidery I couldn't tell what it was but it was gold coloured and woven finely into the dress along with the velvet and a very odd symbol embroidered on the neck of each gown. It was kind of.. A very long face, very flat looking and not human but kind of animal like, antelope style horns, fanged teeth and was kind of scowling. That's the only real detail I could see about it.

All three of them were the same as before. Pale skin, pale lips and I couldn't see their eyes for shadows - Blond, brunette and red-head

Oddly I started to feel very calm like a cooling breeze had entered my body and laid back despite everything. I guess my head was cradled in one of their laps as they began to do.. Well, things.. Touched me in very inappropriate places which was largely the reason I started to feel very offended and disturbed. At first I started thrashing but I didn't seem to be able to move them, I was screaming at them "STOP IT AND LET ME GO, NOW!" - Then I finally managed to get some leverage and pried their arms off me. I managed to get to my feet, spun around and swung. My fist hit a tree and I actually felt pain in the dream, I could feel the coarse feeling of the bark pressing into my knuckles when they smacked the tree and feel the impact and warm pain as I drew back.. I heard the sharp giggles behind me again and turned.

All three girls were standing behind me and I took a moment, feeling uneasily and, yes.. A little frightened.. But as I react now to fright, I got angry. I ran forward and screamed "WHO ARE YOU?! AND WHAT DO YOU WANT?!" at which point all three seemed to mock me in a giggle and just made me angrier. I ran after them as they started to move backwards and again noticed that despite my long legs and athleticism I wasn't able to gain on these little girls. It didn't make sense.. And it just made me even angrier, I vaguely realized I was getting shaken up by this but I didn't care. I just wanted to figure out what was going on.

As I continued to chase after them they continued to run backwards facing me and watching me.. I don't know how but all the sudden earth rose up from the ground into a wall in front of me. I punched as hard as I could several times and eventually broke the wall down, I ran forward and it happened again. I could feel pain in my hands as I continued to pound at the dirt and it felt compacted and hard.. It crumbled easily, yes.. But it was painful after a while..

I noticed as I ran and continued to break down these walls that kept forming ever few feet that I moved forward that I was getting tired too quickly and that red and blue glowing kind of.. Mist was leaving my body every time I hit and moved. I kept going, though and eventually I was covered in sweat and my hands were throbbing, my muscles ached and I felt like I could barely stand. Another wall raised and I ran forward but stumbled into it and ended up smacking into it and slumping to the ground. I was shaking all over in fatigue, I could feel the pain and tiredness in my muscles and couldn't do anything

I could vaguely hear something along the lines of speaking but I couldn't understand it. It was kind of echoing and all I could really hear was the sound of my own heart beat in my ears. The red headed woman leaned down and knelt next to me, I could feel her breath on my face as she got too close for comfort and I whispered or tried to "Get away from me." - I remember feeling pressure on my body after that and something against my face then all the sudden I screamed and saw.. Or.. I don't know if I actually saw it, it was more like I was watching a flash of light from outside my body fill the area. It was coming from my body which was kind of glowing faintly. I heard all three girls scream and then all the sudden I felt like I'd been hit by a brick wall again.

That's when I woke up in real life.

Both my hands hurt, my fists are swollen today as if I'd actually been hitting something. Frankly, I'm worn out today. I feel like I barely slept at all and I'm quite frankly getting sick of these dreams. They're weird and disrupting my normal schedule.. Anyone got any clue what this one means? It was a tad bit stranger than the last.
09-03-2009, 02:50 AM
TempletonEsquire

There's a certain level of awareness there that I'd say you were lucid enough to know you were dreaming and that these women were not who they were supposed to be. Usually the people in dreams have a real or generated backstory, so the omission of one is a telling flag for lucidity.

The symbolism of three women with arcane powers and a snide demeanor is obviously one of witchery. The presence of older style clothing hints at it as well.

Their lack of communication is frustrating, as they give nothing in return as far as an explanation for their existence. This I think is a common theme among DCs since they are theoretically your own inner reflections and only know as much as you do.

Since they are doing exactly what is needed to infuriate you (since they know exactly what it takes), your only tact left would be to not be goaded so easily. Maybe then communication of what lies behind their witchy actions may be drawn out.
09-03-2009, 03:04 AM
JadeTora

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Originally Posted by TempletonEsquire

There's a certain level of awareness there that I'd say you were lucid enough to know you were dreaming and that these women were not who they were supposed to be. Usually the people in dreams have a real or generated backstory, so the omission of one is a telling flag for lucidity.

The symbolism of three women with arcane powers and a snide demeanor is obviously one of witchery. The presence of older style clothing hints at it as well.

Their lack of communication is frustrating, as they give nothing in return as far as an explanation for their existence. This I think is a common theme among DCs since they are theoretically your own inner reflections and only know as much as you do.

Since they are doing exactly what is needed to infuriate you (since they know exactly what it takes), your only tact left would be to not be goaded so easily. Maybe then communication of what lies behind their witchy actions may be drawn out.

I really don't feel they're witches, personally.. Although I'm afraid one of the terms you've used has thrown me for a loop, what does "DCs" stand for?

Yeah, the lack of communication is one of the things that is bothering me so much and made me so angry. I feel like they're taunting me with 'We don't have to give you name or purpose, we're better than you and you should know it.' - That's the feeling I was getting from their behavior.

I also don't think they're my inner reflections. They're too different from me and there's something specifically not right about them. Although it's very hard to place as if right on the tip of my tongue.

I apologize for not being able to word it better, it's all rather confusing.. As for not being goaded so easily. I was, essentially, being molested against my will.. I'd imagine I'd find anyone hard pressed not to be disturbed and goaded into a somewhat violent reaction to something like that.. At least, I'd think so.. Maybe I'm wrong.
09-03-2009, 03:13 AM
TempletonEsquire

Well the thing I've found about dreams, and this may just be me personally, is that intention plays a very large significant role. Almost a singular role. If your intention is to run, the DCs (dream characters) intention will be to reinforce your will to run. If your intention is to fight, the DCs will help you reinforce your intention to fight, and put up a struggle. If your intention is to do nothing or make a joke, then they get confused and you may be able to do a dream check for lucidity at that time. Although I find once they get confused, waking up is pretty common.

I can sympathize with the feeling that they are not witches or even earth bound. Some things are just too bizarre to fit a symbology.
09-03-2009, 03:17 AM
JadeTora

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Originally Posted by TempletonEsquire

Well the thing I've found about dreams, and this may just be me personally, is that intention plays a very large significant role. Almost a singular role. If your intention is to run, the DCs (dream characters) intention will be to reinforce your will to run. If your intention is to fight, the DCs will help you reinforce your intention to fight, and put up a struggle. If your intention is to do nothing or make a joke, then they get confused and you may be able to do a dream check for lucidity at that time. Although I find once they get confused, waking up is pretty common.

I can sympathize with the feeling that they are not witches or even earth bound. Some things are just too bizarre to fit a symbology.

I feel more threatened by them. I also found it odd that everything in the dream felt so real, I wondered why there was a red and blue mist leaving my body and what all these glows could have been I saw..

I didn't just fight, I didn't just struggle but I ended up worn out and unable to do anything else..

Frankly the mature content in the dream also disturbed me and just flat out disgusted me.
09-03-2009, 05:31 AM
TempletonEsquire

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Originally Posted by JadeTora

I feel more threatened by them. I also found it odd that everything in the dream felt so real, I wondered why there was a red and blue mist leaving my body and what all these glows could have been I saw..

I didn't just fight, I didn't just struggle but I ended up worn out and unable to do anything else..

Frankly the mature content in the dream also disturbed me and just flat out disgusted me.

You bring up an interesting point that I too struggle with with when encountering nightmares, and that is, how far real is it? Since there is at least some link between dreaming and actual physical motion, ie sleep walking, etc., how does the content in dreams actually affect us physically? Now, sleep paralysis for the most part cancels out any involuntary actions we might carry over, but for the actions that make it through sleep paralysis, are those a threat to us? And if they are a threat, then what should we do in dreams to reduce their affect?

So far, I've found that non-emotional reactions rarely translate, but strong emotional reactions do, and may end up making us do something involuntary like flinch or move a limb. Most people will wake up to this, but for some who are more lucid dreamers, it's a bit tricky because lucidity only happens when we are awake and yet still asleep.

Unfortunately, just being aware of this though does not necessarily help us in dreaming since there is a memory restriction when we are asleep. The lucidity techniques can help us overcome the memory restriction, but there's no fool proof technique to overcoming random chance.
09-03-2009, 06:15 AM
JadeTora

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Originally Posted by TempletonEsquire

You bring up an interesting point that I too struggle with with when encountering nightmares, and that is, how far real is it? Since there is at least some link between dreaming and actual physical motion, ie sleep walking, etc., how does the content in dreams actually affect us physically? Now, sleep paralysis for the most part cancels out any involuntary actions we might carry over, but for the actions that make it through sleep paralysis, are those a threat to us? And if they are a threat, then what should we do in dreams to reduce their affect?

So far, I've found that non-emotional reactions rarely translate, but strong emotional reactions do, and may end up making us do something involuntary like flinch or move a limb. Most people will wake up to this, but for some who are more lucid dreamers, it's a bit tricky because lucidity only happens when we are awake and yet still asleep.

Unfortunately, just being aware of this though does not necessarily help us in dreaming since there is a memory restriction when we are asleep. The lucidity techniques can help us overcome the memory restriction, but there's no fool proof technique to overcoming random chance.

THAT is what really bothers me. My hands actually hurt and were swollen in real life when I woke up and my knuckles were red like I'd been punching something. But there's nothing around TO punch, anything I could of hit would have been snapped in half or totally destroyed if I did hit it. You can see how that may be disconcerting I'm sure.

You seem to really understand what I'm talking about, I'm finding your input rather invaluable.