Dream I had

[Nirvana Starseed]

Crosses everywhere. A bridge and dried up river. A long way to the place I have to go. A Rope hangin off the bridge. These things are hidden, but I am beginning to see them. In these people, infected entitys of blackness. When they direct themself towards me staring at them makes my head shake, hurt, and send out waves of fear that penatrate into me. Since I can see them and they no longer hide because of this. Instead they come FOR me. They trap me. message...... "From this suffering, violence, darkness, and deception. There is a way! If you choose this right side,They will hurt you bad. Because they do not want you where they cannot defeat you. They want you with them. And if you crack. This weakness shall submit yourself to them. This decision of yours to be against heavens will and name will kill you. And you'll have no life, glory or power. You will die with every door shut to you. Just like them. Not belonging or being fit for life, and when your time comes and they want a decision from you. You better hope you can run away. Because if your going to crack don't ever face them. You cannot keep running, Your time is running out. Don't be afraid. It does not compare to what will be givin to you." My head hurts and I escape, with the feeling they will be back. If I dont decide soon they will come anyway. And I will not be able to escape. Like a decision has to be made. Because I see them and they want me as an expendible asset, but whatever happens they dont want me to slip past them, and being neutral is now becoming impossible. There is a fire that starts, and the closer you get the more it burns and the bigger and more fierce it becomes, Until it becomes so unbearable that finally, when the storm passes. You find that this silence and light it brought fourth, has made you born again.

[Yume]

Going upon the basis that there is good, neutral, and evil I think that there is a point where you can no longer be apathetic to your enemies actions. You must do good for yourself and defeat the bad your enemies will bring. These monsters don't want you to get ahead in your journey and cross that bridge. A lot of times these dark entities represent evil people, but it could also mean your temptations as well. Don't take a bad temptation if you know that it can screw you in the end. You will have to fight them. You may dry out your available resources, but you will be given something great in the end that your enemies know that they can't stop you from getting if you go towards it. This is just my interpretation.

[Nirvana Starseed]

Thanks yume, that makes sense too. very insightful of you. Well done.

[Leo Volont]

Hi Nirvana, Very insightful and even prophetic. They say the World at the End of this Age will be destroyed by Fire. And, yes, Evil has become almost universal and total. I find it almost incredible that Protestants can look out upon the World, where their own Secular Amoralism has quite conquered every nation on Earth and where their bondage of Capitalism has virtually enslaved everybody social person, and still they look somewhere else for the Antichrist and the Beast, when a blind idiot should be able to see that the Enemy is Themselves. I've thought about the purification by Light and Fire. It correlates well with the doctrine of Purgatory. Originally there was no Purgatory. Hell was on a continuum of separation in which the most evil of souls were confined with souls much like themselves, and they could not be allowed to rise up to torment the levels above them. And the levels ascended upward, until right under the City of God there were those whose marginal selfishness in Life had just disqualified them from the Heavenly City. But into this Highest Level of Hell some of the Light from Heaven shone. It was thought that this would not be a problem because the Light of Heaven would be like a Fire to Evil -- that the Light penetrating into Darkness would generate a painful Heat. Unexpectedly, some of these Borderline Souls, in their remorse for having failed to attain the Ideal of God, they stepped into Light and burned and burned until all the Evil that was left in them was finally consumed. The Angels did not fail to notice, and these unexpectedly purified Souls were allowed into the City of God. Since then, some improvements were made and the light was allowed to pour out wider, and reach down lower. But it is still up to each Poor Soul to step into the Painful Light. Prophecy says that there will be an eventual triumph of good over evil. Only a few people appreciate how sweeping that will be. Most people are evil. Or, at least the economic systems that support all of the huge sweeping Urban Populations are Evil. Most people are fed and sustained by an intricate but ultimately fragile and delicate system of economic relationships. For instance, what happens when the costs of processing and transporting food-stuffs exceed the price that people can afford to pay... and we can see that eventuality right on the horizon, can't we? And when we look at History, we can see that Civilizations collapse like an avalanche -- it only takes a snowball to start an entire mountain to slide down. A drought with a major grain producer, or a major petroleum pipeline bursts, or a political shift causes a change in currency valuations. It would not take much to bring the Entire Establishment crashing down. Populations would return to Pre-Industrial levels. Everyone who depended upon trucks, trains or ships moving in food would starve to death. Just look already -- the Bush administration is diverting Corns and Grains to the production of Fuel Alcohols. When Energy is worth more than Food, guess what? The Whole World is about to be transformed into One Great Starving Africa.

[Nirvana Starseed]

thanks leo for your feeback, I get what your saying, nice to hear/read from you.

[Rainah]

I'm still new here, so I hope you don't mind me just butting on in But as one who's had vivid dreams forever, I've gotten to be quite adept at interpretation. Elements: Cross -- death, suffering, sacrifice, being made a martyr, or perhaps a pun ... 'cross to bear' or even 'crossroads' depending on where they were. Bridge -- transistion, impending decision Dry riverbed -- lack of emotions (what was the condition of it? Cracked/dry, or muddy?) hidden things becoming seen -- exactly what it says Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar after all ... The message, where does it come from? A 'narrator' voice (sometimes attributed to God or the 'higher mind'), or yourself, or one of the people? People in our dreams are always one of two things (barring shared dreams and other such experiences, which for the sake of argument, we'll assume this isn't, but don't rule it out yourself if you feel it's possible) -- aspects of ourselves, or the way we view others. To see these people as evil, to me, means that either you see aspects of yourself or society that way (and in the latter case, I don't blame you). The content of the message itself, while cryptic, is also oddly straightforward. "Join or die." It is probably a religious dream, or ANTI-religious, if you feel that religion is stifling and negative in many ways (forcing their beliefs on you, etc). It makes me wonder if you're feeling pressure from outside to committ one way or another to something that you're not ready to decide yet, and that there is some type of religion involved. For example, if I had had this exact dream, I know that for ME, it would be symbolic of the fear I feel from right-wing extremists, because of the somewhat ... ahh ... open lifestyle I have. However, for YOU, it probably means something different, but similiar. Fear from a group of people, with some type of religious overtones, whether you yourself are religious or not. Evil seems to be a pervading theme in this dream, so I will leave you with this thought. In waking life, evil is in the eye of the beholder. In dreams, it's often symbolic of aspects of yourself that you have repressed, such as negative emotions like anger/fear/rebellion that you feel and do not express, so they get magnified in dreams to evil. Consider that you may need to achieve emotional balance and accept these emotions as part of yourself to conquer this (the dry riverbed really underscores this, by the way). I hope that helped in some way, even if it's completely wrong, perhaps it gets you thinking so you can figure it out Rainah

[Awaken4e1]

"Nirvana Starseed"] Crosses everywhere. (So many paths, only ‘one’ bridge) A bridge and dried up river. A long way to the place I have to go. A Rope hanging off the bridge. (There used to be a source of life in this way, but it is not the narrow path, some used to get small amounts of water from the river, but not now.) These things are hidden, but I am beginning to see them. In these people, infected entitys of blackness. (Broken, and wounded souls) [quote]When they direct themselves towards me staring at them makes my head shake, hurt, and send out waves of fear that penetrate into me. Since I can see them and they no longer hide because of this. Instead they come FOR me. They trap me. (You can’t fight evil with your head, only you’re heart) (you are to release your fears, stand, and confront them head on) message...... \"From this suffering, violence, darkness, and deception. There is a way! If you choose this right side, They will hurt you bad. Because they do not want you where they cannot defeat you. They want you with them. And if you crack. This weakness shall submit yourself to them. This decision of yours to be against heavens will and name will kill you. And you'll have no life, glory or power. You will die with every door shut to you. Just like them. Not belonging or being fit for life, and when your time comes and they want a decision from you. You better hope you can run away. Because if your going to crack don't ever face them. You cannot keep running, Your time is running out. Don't be afraid. It does not compare to what will be givin to you.\" My head hurts and I escape, with the feeling they will be back. (They’ll be back, because they come in your fear) If I don’t decide soon they will come anyway. And I will not be able to escape. Like a decision has to be made. Because I see them and they want me as an expendable asset, (As a man thinketh in his heart so is He, what you think is what you get) but whatever happens they dont want me to slip past them, and being neutral is now becoming impossible. (The light can never slip pass the darkness, neither should it) There is a fire that starts, and the closer you get the more it burns and the bigger and more fierce it becomes, Until it becomes so unbearable that finally, when the storm passes. You find that this silence and light it brought fourth, has made you born again. The Rev.