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      Yelling At DC's

      So, this has happened twice this week now. The first time it happened, I didn't record it because the dream contained some topics I'd rather not record. Kicking myself in the ass for it now.

      Anyway, last night while trying to escape from quarantine in a hospital with Dr. House and a couple other people, I saw a patient a couple of floors up, looking out the window at us. She start screaming that what we had done was wrong (I think House might have had something to do with the quarantine) and that she was going to tell a nurse we were escaping. Suddenly, I had enough of her, drew a large breathe and yelled at the top of my lungs, "F**K YOU!!!!" The DC freaked out, a look of total terror passed over her face and she left the window in a fright. Not only did she leave the window though, but it was as if she left the dream entirely, I stopped thinking of her and no anger nurses suddenly appeared to stop us.

      Things like this seem to be happening more and more often and in more and more ways: I exercise very precise and specific control of the dream without being lucid. In both dreams, I just wanted the DC to leave, yelled at them to Get Out (or something similar) and they leave. Simple as that. Whats even stranger is that while awake I'm a very mild mannered person, and I can't even remember the last time I yelled at someone in anger. Thoughts? Suggestions for harnessing/inhancing this non-lucid control? Thanks for reading

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      I would explore these emotions, not suppress & stuff away into your dream closet again.
      You have decided to do so on that the topic that bothered you, and would rather not record.
      record it all, explore it even if it makes you feel uneasy.
      Try to see how the emotions "behave" in you.
      are you feeling anger, shame, fear/
      What does it really mean? and what is the nature of that emotional state.

      Remember, emotions are not permanent or solid, anyway.
      We are free to have them & experience emotions, and not be owned or controlled by them.
      Emotions can be an enormous energy that swells up in us, and how one recognizes and deals with them make a difference in our lives.

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      Well, the first dream was rather disturbing as it was my deceased mother I was yelling at. You're right that i should have recorded the dream to analyse both at an emotional level as well as a dream phenomena level. Alas, other than what I described in the pervious post, it's all gone now.

      But, on another note, last night I called back a DC for the first time! I was on a sinking cargo ship, below deck and friends and I were searching for a way out when this ... creature came into the corridor, introduced himself as Roamy and then went down a flight a stairs and out of sight. He looked like the big diving suit guy from BioShock (never actually played the game, so don't know the character's name) only a sinkier version. He also had a little girl with him. After he left, I was going to proceed with the escape, when I suddenly became worried for him, and called down the stairs "Roamy?!" and he called back "Yes?" and climbed back up the stairs almost immediately! The dream then shifted, became 3rd person and Roamy turned into the sexual partner of Xander Crews from Frisky Dingo. However, this was still a non-lucid control and in the dream I didn't have any sudden insights when he re-appeared, just relief that he wasn't going to be trapped on the sinking ship.

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      Quote Originally Posted by dasein View Post
      Whats even stranger is that while awake I'm a very mild mannered person, and I can't even remember the last time I yelled at someone in anger. Thoughts? Suggestions for harnessing/inhancing this non-lucid control? Thanks for reading
      Man, if what we did in our dreams was similar to what we do in real life... what the hell would be the point?!?! I always embrace how insane dreams are Maybe you subconsciously feel like you want to lash out at people who stress you out. But I don't buy into generalized dream interpretation

      I would suggest turning strong emotions like this into a dream sign. Do hardcore reality checks every time you feel a strong emotion or the urge to lash out or be upset with someone. If anything it will help curb your temper and help you act rationally if you ever get really pissed.

      This is long but here is a similar experience I had. Mostly I'm adding it to show how much detail you can recall from a dream if you take good notes, no matter how inappropriate or uncomfortable the topics may be:

      "I realize how incredibly hazy and foggy this dream is, and I decide to stabilize before anything else. I stand there and concentrate on looking at things, but I keep falling backwards, then catching myself, as if I am on a curb or ledge. Finally I decide that I can’t keep trying that, but that I should kneel on the ground. I have a flashback to one of my other lucids where I did just that. Even though I can’t even see the ground anymore, I drop to my knees and feel the ground under me. Much better. I start looking at the fog and concentrating, when someone grabs my arm. “YOU CAN’T DO THAT!” they scream at me, trying to pull me up. “Go away, I’m trying to stabilize!” She tugs again on my right forearm, yelling that I’m not allowed, that I can’t do it. Finally I’m drawn to my feet. The DC is this woman with short, straight blonde hair. I think she looks like a hippy from Austin Powers, during one of the scene changes, but that may not be true. Anyway, she’s got these blazing blue eyes (thanks guys), and is holding her face… inappropriately. I think she looks like she’s giving a blowjob, and she keeps getting in my face too! At least she doesn’t try to kiss me! Ugh. I start to panic, because this woman with strange eyes is screaming at me, when I realize that it is MY dream, and I’m in control. God what a great feeling. I tense my arm, and look right into her blue eyes. “Let go, and FUCK OFF!” I order her. She lets go, but gets in my face again. “That’s not allowed here! You can’t do that!!!” “GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY DREAM!” she vanishes!"

      The DCs in that dream were so messed up. I had to do the weirdest things to get them to go away, they were all perverted and would only leave if I told them there was an orgy going on. Yeah, awkward, and something I don't want in my DJ, but also one of my clearest dream memories...

      Oh and one last note before I write anymore. I usually write my DJ as though it is for other people to read and not me, it helps you to describe the situation more completely so if your memories fade, you aren't relying on them but just have to read the DJ to recall all the details and stuff. Good luck!

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      Shift, thanks for the advice :-) I had thought maybe this anger response was just a coincidence, that my control of DCs would arise through other emotions, but after last night I have to agree that a strong anger response is a definite dream-sign for me.

      Last night I was walking down a street near my first apartment, and as I was passing between a larger apartment building and a big black van, this 1990s Honda Civic pulls up onto the sidewalk and parks on the sidewalk just behind the van, narrowly missing me. At first, I didn't really react, but as I was walking past, I suddenly got angry at this person's odacity to park on the sidewalk. I banged my hand on the back roof corner and yelled "Move your fucking car!" and kept on walking. I met an old friend from high school, and after a brief interaction, he continued down the street in the direction I had come from. As I turned to watch him leave, I noticed the Honda had indeed moved and was now parked on the street, just behind the van, but I had not heard it move at all, though I was only about 20-30ft away.

      Another thing I've confirmed for myself is the agitation my anger produces in DCs: when I yelled at her, the driver instantly became much more animated, almost shaking. At first I thought she was anger at me, but then I realized she was terrified of me. Has anyone had any experience or thoughts on DCs reactions to the dreamer once the dreamer has "taken an interest" in them? Thanks for reading, and thanks again Shift and Mysteryhunter

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      Quote Originally Posted by dasein View Post
      Shift, thanks for the advice :-) I had thought maybe this anger response was just a coincidence, that my control of DCs would arise through other emotions, but after last night I have to agree that a strong anger response is a definite dream-sign for me.
      Ok that is a really lucky dream sign, especially since you say you are not usually like that in RL! I'm jealous. I don't have any good dream signs

      I've never experienced that with DCs, they are usually very animated if I interact with them, kind of background noise if I don't unless they are somehow disturbing to me.

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      I think maybe if you yell loud enough you could cause yourself to sleep talk. Random idea, I base this on absoloutely no evidence or theory. Not sure why, but I'd be scared to do it for fear of randomly yelling out in the night and waking myself.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Shift View Post
      Man, if what we did in our dreams was similar to what we do in real life... what the hell would be the point?!?! I always embrace how insane dreams are Maybe you subconsciously feel like you want to lash out at people who stress you out. But I don't buy into generalized dream interpretation
      I am exactly like you! I never spend time wondering why something has
      happened in a LD or any dream. There are too many answers for everything
      anyway so why spend time worrying about that. I have always had dreams
      about being chased by bears......i know exactly what it means....im scared
      shitless of bears!
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      Quote Originally Posted by supreme View Post
      I have always had dreams
      about being chased by bears......i know exactly what it means....im scared
      shitless of bears!
      ahahahahhaa!! Ok that was really funny
      Yea, the day they come out with a scientific way to analyze dreams, I'll see how accurate it seems and maybe believe that. I think you can analyze your own dreams obviously, because you know what your feelings about things are, but no way does generalized dream interpretation cover every single dreamer. It's more fun to sleep and dream than waste time trying to analyze them atleast imo

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      Yup!! I believe we all can analyze our own dreams. Some dreams
      are too weird and shouldnt get another thought except amusement but
      like you said we should be able to figure out why we dreamed some things
      for instance:
      When i was a new mother, i used to always have dreams of my babies
      getting hurt by something in the house or outside. They would always
      be terrifying and i would most times wake up. I would wonder, why would
      i dream such horrifying dreams about my babies. But then because i
      remembered what hurt the baby i would take steps in real life to make
      sure the thing would never really happen. I had this one scary one about
      my son that i still remember. We had these huge steel screens on the
      wall at the floor for air intake for the furnace, in this house we lived in.
      A small dog could crawl through them. The screens could just pull out
      easily. In my dream.....my baby son, pulled the screen out and fell all
      the way down into the abyss! I couldnt get in to get him and i knew in
      the dream he was lost. I layed on the floor by the opening and cried and
      cried until i woke up....still crying. That very day, I had my husband nail
      in those screens so they couldnt be easily removed.
      So i started realizing that i as a new mother, was having dreams about
      obvious danger that my baby could get into, that i wasnt consciously
      aware of in real life..........isnt that freaky!?! These dreams were preventative
      dreams..........it was so obvious!
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