a summoning question

[i make it rain]

i often have trouble when it comes to summoning people or objects. i know you are supposed to expect them to be somewhere. but when you say "expect" do you just say/think, "a ball will be behind me." and then it comes. or do you say/think, "a red kickball will be behind me on the table." so pretty much what i am asking is do you just assume a general object to be there and let your subconscious do the rest, or do you visualize the exact object (how it looks)? reading this, it is confusing and isn't written well. so i hope you understand what i am saying.

[gratismat]

i often have trouble when it comes to summoning people or objects. i know you are supposed to expect them to be somewhere. but when you say "expect" do you just say/think, "a ball will be behind me." and then it comes. or do you say/think, "a red kickball will be behind me on the table." so pretty much what i am asking is do you just assume a general object to be there and let your subconscious do the rest, or do you visualize the exact object (how it looks)? reading this, it is confusing and isn't written well. so i hope you understand what i am saying. Visualizing works best for me...

[Creation X]

well, what I do is when I recieve lucidity, and clear everything around me, I'll close my eyes, reopen them and everything is gone. Then I close my eyes and "spawn" everything back to where I want to be, be it inside a house or ontop a mountain.

[Bloody-Mist]

Depending on your preferances you can use dozens of diffrent summoning techniques. But on what you are saying, you can be as general or specific as you like, and it useually works. And if not, you should try checking out some of the other forums here, they have great advice.

[i make it rain]

thanks, guys. Creation, i am kind of scared to do the start from scratch technique because i have troubel summoning little things so i think it will be tough to remake everything. but if i want to drastically change scenery i will give it a shot. i will try to look around and see what techniques work for other people. when it comes to like superpower stuff, it is the passive control stuff that ususally works. like if i want to grow giant, i will rip my own spine out so i can get bigger (true story). a lot of the time it is stupid stuff though, like rub my hands on a "magic rag" to do stuff. it is weird that when i try this with summoning people (like the around the corner trick) it usually fails. i guess i will keep at it. thanks again for the replies.

[Creation X]

whatever man try whatever you want really, it's your mind. maybe if I could nail this thing to get into other dreams I'd go into your dream and help you out..oh man that would be cool

[i make it rain]

whatever man try whatever you want really, it's your mind. maybe if I could nail this thing to get into other dreams I'd go into your dream and help you out..oh man that would be cool that would be sweet. you could have like a DV dream area to meet in dreams for like tutorials and stuff. so flying lessons or whatever would be in person.