Thread: The Nature of Dream Control

Originally Posted by DrewFever

They both had good points though.

What, that people aren't smart enough the think for themselves?

Even the more questionable aspects of this thread were valid metaphors for dream control.

Besides, it's too late to debate that now. This thread has been hovering around the top page of this subsection for over a year now, and with over 17000 views, the "damage" is already done.

Originally Posted by The Cusp

What, that people aren't smart enough the think for themselves?

Even the more questionable aspects of this thread were valid metaphors for dream control.

Besides, it's too late to debate that now. This thread has been hovering around the top page of this subsection for over a year now, and with over 17000 views, the "damage" is already done.

A significant proportion of the discussions are unquestionably "beyond dreaming".

DV makes an effort to seperate what science has proven and understood from what amounts to - at best - "personal belief systems".

In my view we shouldn't be contaminating the main boards with this these kind of discussions. People will be even less likely to accept Lucid Dreaming as legitimate if the boards are contaminated with Spiritual and Cultish chatter.

DV has provided a sub-forum for those who wish to indulge in the same.
The respectful thing to do would be to make use of that forum, instead of taking a strange delight (ChaybaChayba!) in the fact that some benefit of the doubt has been given. Up until now.

Originally Posted by moonshine

DV makes an effort to seperate what science has proven and understood from what amounts to - at best - "personal belief systems".

Well, as a side note it have to be said, that Lucid dreaming is (at the best) barely proven (but not universally recognized) and obviously not understood at all. And most of the "skeptics" when judging this or that thing on this topic are actually do not really know the science between dreams or brain, and have to rely on personal belief system which may or may not resemble actual state of matters in said science fields.

Originally Posted by moonshine

A significant proportion of the discussions are unquestionably "beyond dreaming".

DV makes an effort to seperate what science has proven and understood from what amounts to - at best - "personal belief systems".

In my view we shouldn't be contaminating the main boards with this these kind of discussions. People will be even less likely to accept Lucid Dreaming as legitimate if the boards are contaminated with Spiritual and Cultish chatter.

DV has provided a sub-forum for those who wish to indulge in the same.
The respectful thing to do would be to make use of that forum, instead of taking a strange delight (ChaybaChayba!) in the fact that some benefit of the doubt has been given. Up until now.

I get a kick out of how much this thread offends you.

Try using this next time...

Originally Posted by The Cusp

I get a kick out of how much this thread offends you.

Try using this next time...

Offended? I'd say concerned was more accurate.

To be honest, I think that what you really get a kick out of is the fact that your clearly intentional bait and switch seems to have muddied the waters enough to keep this thread from being moved.

Which, lets be honest, isn't the same as validating talk of dream walkers etc.