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      Fighting in dreams

      Often i get into fights in my LD's with random people/monsters (lol) and i find i have the ability to choke, hit them against things or kick, but i cant punch with my full force, i always feel like im throwing realy weak punches and there no force behind them.

      Anyone else have the problem with realy weak punches that feel they have no force behind them?

      How could i fix this?

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      The most effective way that I got around this problem (It used to happen to me all the time) is to eliminate the thought of throwing the punch and having it travel through the air. Simply imagine your punch leaving your side and suddenly connecting with the target. Don't really think about your body throwing the punch. Just visualize the punch slamming into your opponent's face. Same thing goes with dodging at superhuman speeds, too. Just forget that your body is there, and visualize yourself automatically ducking and weaving around whatever's being thrown at you.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut View Post
      The most effective way that I got around this problem (It used to happen to me all the time) is to eliminate the thought of throwing the punch and having it travel through the air. Simply imagine your punch leaving your side and suddenly connecting with the target. Don't really think about your body throwing the punch. Just visualize the punch slamming into your opponent's face. Same thing goes with dodging at superhuman speeds, too. Just forget that your body is there, and visualize yourself automatically ducking and weaving around whatever's being thrown at you.
      This is good advice. It also helps to have combat skills from your waking life, when I punch in a dream, I use the "weight" of my whole dream body, it works like a charm.
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      will defiently try the instant punch tech lol

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      Aw man i got the same issue, i always feel like when i fight in dreams im powerless

      like i can toss people, push people, but punches don't work, ill try what you said

      ever feel like you can't keep your eyes open in a dream? like you feel, sleepy, in your dream?
      I would rather die on my feet then to live on my knees.

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      Quote Originally Posted by guerilla View Post
      ever feel like you can't keep your eyes open in a dream? like you feel, sleepy, in your dream?
      Hmmn, that sounds strange. I've never had that before.

      Maybe you are tired in real life.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Barns View Post
      Hmmn, that sounds strange. I've never had that before.

      Maybe you are tired in real life.
      I am alot of the time, i feel tired for no reason most of the time
      I would rather die on my feet then to live on my knees.

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      Fighting

      You shouldn't be fighting them. Don't touch them at all.

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      Quote Originally Posted by arne saknussemm View Post
      You shouldn't be fighting them. Don't touch them at all.
      Any reason?
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      I've sometimes had this fighting problem... As guerilla has, I also often experience foggy vision in dreams. It's annoying. >_>

      Never really had it in lucid dreams though, or at least not nearly as bad as non-lucid dreams.
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      Man punching is sooo old school!

      Use magic or other stuff like swords, its super cool and very effective.Well it is effective with me.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ImageAll View Post
      I've sometimes had this fighting problem... As guerilla has, I also often experience foggy vision in dreams. It's annoying. >_>

      Never really had it in lucid dreams though, or at least not nearly as bad as non-lucid dreams.
      do you ever get that feeling of your eyelids getting heavy while dreaming? thats my main problem of not being lucid

      I FALL ASLEEP IN MY F***ING DREAMS LOL

      how can i go lucid if my dream self is always so sleepy and groggy?
      I would rather die on my feet then to live on my knees.

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      First, why in the world would you want to?

      And second, you should ask one of them sometime if you benefit from fighting with it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by arne saknussemm View Post
      First, why in the world would you want to?

      And second, you should ask one of them sometime if you benefit from fighting with it.
      What about if it is an unavoidable situation?
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      Quote Originally Posted by arne saknussemm View Post
      First, why in the world would you want to?

      And second, you should ask one of them sometime if you benefit from fighting with it.
      First: because fictional action is entertaining.

      Second: which one should I ask, the one that's trying to shoot me, or the one that's trying to eat me alive?

      Third: why would you believe a DC is going to give you an objective answer?
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      Hehe i know punching is old school but i dont always remeber i can shoot electricty outa my hands.
      Some DC's are realy annoying and do deserve abit of a choke and punch in the face Or some are so evil that after you have been running away form them for so long its easier just to turn back and take them on.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut View Post
      The most effective way that I got around this problem (It used to happen to me all the time) is to eliminate the thought of throwing the punch and having it travel through the air. Simply imagine your punch leaving your side and suddenly connecting with the target. Don't really think about your body throwing the punch. Just visualize the punch slamming into your opponent's face. Same thing goes with dodging at superhuman speeds, too. Just forget that your body is there, and visualize yourself automatically ducking and weaving around whatever's being thrown at you.
      DBZ STYLE!!!! WHOO-HOO!!!!

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      Quote Originally Posted by arne saknussemm View Post
      First, why in the world would you want to?

      And second, you should ask one of them sometime if you benefit from fighting with it.
      !? Dont even go there girlfriend.

      Lucid dreams are a great way to relieve stress

      Muscle memory from lucid dreams is very real and can improve your real time fighting skills

      I like to beat the hell out of people that get in the way of my objectives

      SIMPLE

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      >>What about if it is an unavoidable situation?<<

      If one of them grabs you, and IF YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN'T AVOID THE SITUATION, then wrestle with it until it goes inert. Don't throw punches. Just wrestle it. Then when it's exausted, ask it its name.

      Then e-mail me, and I'll tell you what to do next.

      And to the person who said that it's "just a fictional situation" -- even if that's true, which I don't acknowledge, then you're an ass for wanting to hurt something. Why do you want to do that?

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      Quote Originally Posted by arne saknussemm View Post
      And to the person who said that it's "just a fictional situation" -- even if that's true, which I don't acknowledge, then you're an ass for wanting to hurt something. Why do you want to do that?
      The whole point of it being a fictional situation, is that I'm not "hurting something."

      For stomping on the heads of athropomorphic mushrooms, to advance in Super Mario world...does that make me a sadist?

      For imagining opponents in my mind, while doing a kata exercise, for a karate class...does that make me a violent person who wants to hurt people?

      Think, before you call me an ass. Thanks.
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      Well it's OK if you just FANTASIZE about hurting things, right?

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      Objectively? Yes.

      I still choose not to attack DC's for no reason. All of my fighting (at least 99&#37 is self-defense, however I realize that this is nothing but personal preference, and that the only reason to denounce someone who enjoys fictional violence is if they begin to let that "fantasy" blur the line between reality and fiction - someone mentally unstable enough to actually act, in waking life, upon those fantasies.

      Are the creators of shows like Heroes and Smallville bad people, because they have to imagine their characters hurting other people, to create the story?

      Are martial artists bad people because they have to imagine themselves hurting others, to train, and enjoy the sport of fighting with other people who are willing to do so? (even if they are perfect gentlemen, on the street)

      There is a difference between "Fantasizing about hurting someone" because you subconsciously wish you could go out and hurt someone, and "enjoying fictional violence" because you know it's fiction and there is no chance, ever, of someone actually getting hurt.

      The difference is called "common sense."
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      I'm sure Jeffrey Dahmer had fantasies of hurting things beefore he actually started doing it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by arne saknussemm View Post
      I'm sure Jeffrey Dahmer had fantasies of hurting things beefore he actually started doing it.
      I'm sure Stan Lee had fantasies of super-heroes and villains causing universal destruction and casualties, during the countless battles that his own mind created. I'm sure he visualized Apocalypse and Magneto committing multiple homicides on the unsuspecting citizens of his fictional cities. I'm sure he's gotten some sort of personal joy by creating fictional characters that are some of the meanest, most sadistic badasses to ever grace a comic book page...

      ..and, as far as we know, he's a very nice and charming man who has never hurt a soul in his life.


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      Quote Originally Posted by arse saknumbnuts View Post
      I'm sure Jeffrey Dahmer had fantasies of hurting things beefore he actually started doing it.
      Jeffrey Dahmer obviously also had the intention and desire to cause harm, due to the probability that his heart was full of malice, discontent and hate. People like Jeffrey become what they become because of what they already are and how they grow on that, not because their form of fantasies form them. It's all about what's in one's heart and how it's dealt with.

      The same kind of principles apply to knowledge, as that is what is brought by exercise. People who watch CSI don't become criminals because they know more on how to avoid being caught, or because they are shown the ideas and methods of murder of these fictional criminals. It's all about how you use that knowledge, and that will be determined by what your heart and mind focus on. In the case of those such as Jeffrey, this is hate.

      Martial artists don't turn bad because they know how to handle a fight. They don't go mugging raping and killing people because they know how to do it. They don't do those things because they practice what are potentially harmful and dangerous techniques on mannequins (which are meant to represent real people). There can be bad people who have an understanding and a liking to practice martial arts, but the understanding and liking to practice aren't the reasons they are bad.

      IMO it would take an unexperienced and quite judgmental person to believe knowledge and practices of potentially harmful things dictate the behavior and course of life of any individual.
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