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      Dream Control 101

      Dream Control 101
      By Photolysis

      Introduction:

      This is a quick tutorial which will hopefully allow those with poor dream control to get what they want.

      You need to understand that good dream control comes from a certain frame of mind. You can want to do something extremely badly, but if you don't know you can do it, you will most likely fail.

      Control comes from knowledge and understanding: you need to understand fully that you're dreaming and what it means, to provide you with the knowledge that you have the power to do what you want.

      The following few steps are a guide to how it's done:


      1) Know that this is your dream

      A common problem, it would seem, is that those new to lucid dreaming still have thoughts at the back of their mind "is this really a dream?" or "what if I'm actually awake after all?". It's understandable; finding yourself inside your own private world, one which can be completely convincing, is a new sensation for most.

      However, you can't afford to be held back by nagging thoughts, or worrying about the potential consequences if you aren't dreaming. Not only does this provide a needless source of worry, but it will prevent you from doing whatever you want. For instance, if you worry about not being able to fly and hitting the ground if it's not a dream, that will likely come true. Dreams are built on expectations.

      The best way to make sure you're dreaming is to do a good reality check if you're not sure. Pinching your nostrils closed (assuming your nose isn't blocked due to some reason in the real world) and trying to breathe through your nose is an excellent test.

      When I'm lucid, I never ever worry about if I'm actually awake. If I do awaken during/after a lucid, I always do a reality check; not only will you catch false awakenings this way, but you will always be sure about when you are dreaming, and when you are actually awake.


      2) Don't make excuses for things to work

      I've seen posts where people who have problems getting things to work start trying to make excuses to get them to work. For instance, going back to flying, they start imagining that they've become radioactive, that there's a large force beneath their feet, or whatever.

      Making excuses for things is detrimental in the long run!

      Firstly, you're trying to play yourself against your own mind. You have to try and delude yourself that X is a plausible reason, when you already know it's an excuse. It will also cause you to rely on excuses, and will prevent you from realising the ultimate truth: you don't need excuses.

      3) Understand what lucid dreaming means at the fundamental level.

      What does lucid dreaming mean at it's most basic level? The answer is obvious, but a surprisingly great deal of people don't seem to understand it. You have as much or as little power as you want. You make the rules. You don't need to rationalise this power, try and invent excuses to get things to work, or obey laws of nature.

      In the Matrix, the whole concept of "freeing your mind" is to realise that the Matrix is simply a computer simulation. That the rules don't have to be obeyed, because that is what they are: a simulation of actual laws. Lucid dreaming is very similar, except the world is inside your head, instead of existing in a computer. Unlike the Matrix where the machines create the rules however, in lucid dreaming you not only create the rules as well as break them!

      The beauty of this, is that when you understand it, you don't have to explain things away to get them to work. By realising that it is you that creates the rules, you also realise that you are not bound to them in any way. Laws of physics? They're completely meaningless here!

      When you understand this completely, you also will have no trouble getting what you want. You might need to focus and concentrate in some cases, but you know you can, and this means that it will happen!


      4) More specific wishes may require focus and concentration

      One thing to point out, is that some more advanced techniques, for instance creating items out of nothing, you may need to focus more to get the results you desire.

      It might be relatively easy to create a shirt, but created a long-sleeved blue shirt with a specific pattern can require more concentration.



      An example of how I use this:

      The first time I tried to do supernatural things in a lucid, it worked perfectly; in my second ever lucid dream, I was able to fly perfectly. Why? Because I knew I could. It was my dream, and there was no reason whatsoever why I couldn't do it. I flew because I wanted to, not because I invented reasons why I could fly.

      When I want something, I make it happen. I don't try to do anything, I do it. There is a difference.

      About me: So far, I've had 4 lucid dreams. In the 3 of them I've tried to do supernatural things, I have always achieved it. To date, I have flown, conjured multiple items out of nothing, conjured people, phased though walls, conjured lightning and fireballs, ripped items out the ground by telekinesis, and demonstrated super-strength. To date, the only limitation has been the amount of time I've had whilst lucid. I have effortlessly done things first time, which people have struggled with after many lucid dreams.


      I hope some of you find this useful! If you have any questions for me, please feel free to ask.
      Last edited by Photolysis; 02-03-2008 at 06:44 PM.

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      That realization is truth. We shouldn't have to make excuses. Still, many find catalysts to be helpful in their efforts. For people who try to give their dreams a realistic feeling, they don't want to see the person they are summoning appear before their eyes: it may feel shallow to them, so they look behind a corner or door instead.

      If we could free ourselves from these excuses, could we retain the realism of the dream? I think so. If we could truly banish the rationale behind our lucid dream magic, then we'd be able to make whatever we're doing seem real. The difference would be that instead of having to "creatively force" whatever we're trying to do, we could let it happen more fluidly.

      Laws of physics? They're completely meaningless here!
      "Aw, shit! I accidentially banished friction! Nooooooo!"

      (Sorry, it's a joke I've been dying to post!)
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      I murdered someone, there was bloody everywhere. On the walls, on my hands. The air smelled metallic, like iron. My mouth... tasted metallic, like iron. The floor was metallic, probably iron

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      That realization is truth. We shouldn't have to make excuses. Still, many find catalysts to be helpful in their efforts. For people who try to give their dreams a realistic feeling, they don't want to see the person they are summoning appear before their eyes: it may feel shallow to them, so they look behind a corner or door instead.

      If we could free ourselves from these excuses, could we retain the realism of the dream? I think so. If we could truly banish the rationale behind our lucid dream magic, then we'd be able to make whatever we're doing seem real. The difference would be that instead of having to "creatively force" whatever we're trying to do, we could let it happen more fluidly.
      It depends on what we mean by realism here. At one level, if you do anything supernatural, that's unrealistic!

      Personally, if I do unrealistic things, I'm not concerned with how realistic the appearance is. If I summon someone, I don't care if they appear out of thin air. If people are bothered by that, and would rather call them up instead to get them to come over, for the greater realism, that is entirely their choice. The same principal applies though; you know it will work.

      If people desire to invent excuses for their control for the realism factor, good luck to them. But if you rely on these excuses for your control and are powerless without them, then that's a problem.

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      Ok how to ice skate in a ld, I've been trying to go ice skating fro more than 2 months!!! I've tried flying(i was too slow) , I asked a dc, but woke up after getting the directions, tried turning my rm into a ice rink, etc.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Abra View Post
      That realization is truth. We shouldn't have to make excuses.
      I agree. It's a very bad habit to get into, especially when LDing. I don't have enough experience to talk, but I know what you'll get out of it. Nothing really.


      Example, in my LD last week, I tried to shoot outta my finger, but it wouldn't work, so I made an excuse to try and get it working.

      Now, in my next LD i'm gonna go over what I did and get it working, it'll be really great in the long run
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      once one tried to convince me i was dead...
      (so i raped him.)
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      Quote Originally Posted by telaranrhiod walker View Post
      Ok how to ice skate in a ld, I've been trying to go ice skating fro more than 2 months!!! I've tried flying(i was too slow) , I asked a dc, but woke up after getting the directions, tried turning my rm into a ice rink, etc.
      I can't give specific instructions on how to do a certain thing, because there are no specific ways to get a certain thing! As I said above, control comes from understanding what lucid dreaming means.

      What I would personally do however, if I wanted to get to a specific location, is close my eyes and teleport. The closing of my eyes isn't necessary, but allows me to focus on my destination easily.

      It's somewhat hard to explain the technique. Imagine you have an electric light. Imagine that you want it to turn on; you can sit there all day and think this. If you want to make it actually happen though, you have to think AT the light switch. This distinction is rather abstract.

      Out of interest, how do you try to fly?

      When I first read about lucid dreaming, I spent quite a bit of time thinking about the implications; this is how I understood the power I have available. Perhaps it was also because I understood this before I tried anything that has made my dream control so good; I haven't failed, and so my confidence in my ability to do something has already remained very high.

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      I run and then jump off my roof-this is in wilds. In dilds(when I'm not in any familar places) I've tried running and eventually flying, or jumping off of small walls-but it never worked. The only times I've flown in a dild, is when I didn't know I was dreaming-ex. I just randomely say I want to fly, so I start floating up, then I realize I'm dreaming, so I continue flying.
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      Oh and this morning(I had 1 dild and 1 wild) in each ld, I cut a wall open with my finger, pulled the wall apart, thinking there would be an ice skating rink on the other side, but there wasn't, lol.
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      yesterday i had a lucid dream and it was great i tried to jump on a roof and at first nothing happened then i closed my eyes looked up believed i could jump and i jump 3ft, i did it agian and i jump 6ft, soon i could jump on the roof cuz i kept jumping higher and higher, then after i was on the roof i turned around and some women was there yelling "now you cant jump high anymore" after that the bitch left and i jumped and didnt jump morethen 4 in.
      i was shocked and kept thinking "that bitch!" knowing my dream was going to be over i closed my eyes and jump off.-----dream ended

      what the hell happened? when i believed i could jump i did but when that DC said i couldnt, i couldnt! it pissed me off. Anyone know what i did wrong?
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      It's wierd for me because certain things I do are really easy and some things are hard. For me its effortless to fly, I mean like as effortless as breathing or walking in real life, but then to do things like make things appear I just can't seem to be successful (though this might just be due to the fact that I am doing something that is so amazingly cool that it causes me to lose some lucidity)

      Out of interest, how do you try to fly?
      The most common way that I fly is I'm walking around and then just kinda tip forward and am flying. I would like to explain how I do, but I can't really explain how I fly in my LD's because I kinda just do. Before I started LD'ing I would fly in dreams sometimes and to do it in my LD's I just try to get myself in that mind set. The closest advice is the way that Douglas Adams describes flying in the hitchhikers series. Which can be paraphrased as "You just gotta throw yourself at the ground an miss." Hopefully this is of some help to you.

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