I need help with summoning / large scale telekinesis

Okay, last night I had an awesome lucid dream. I was walking home from school when I saw a drain and made a joke to my friends. I realised the jokes origin was from a detective film I saw in a previous dream so I RC'd and I was Lucid! So I was very happy because the dream lasted a long while and was incredibly vivid, first person, ultra sharp, I could feel the road under my feet and hear everything realistically. So I figured I'd try something, I closed my eyes and I wished for a zombie apocalypse. I opened them and zombies were everywhere. I smiled and tried to summon a gun the same way, nothing. I tried again, this time it appeared but when I moved it floated out of my hands and faded. It was annoying as I had been spotted by the zombies by now. I tried continuously but still nothing. I closed my eyes and willed away the zombies. All but one went, which I punched in the face and walked away.

This is a watered down tale as it excludes my conversation with the old man.


My point is that I've had this problem before and it is annoying. Can you name some other methods of summoning objects or changing the dream universe? I even got a gun at one point but it wouldn't work!

I've tried:

1) Close my eyes, wish for it.
2) Tried to pull it out my pocket.
3) Tried to create it out out of nowhere by shaking my hand.


Help?

this is just a guess (still Ld have escaped my grasp) but maybe you should try this. Shout 'GUN APPEAR!!!" or imgane a gun lieing on the floor and pick up. hope thids helps..

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Originally Posted by Friedpickle

this is just a guess (still Ld have escaped my grasp) but maybe you should try this. Shout 'GUN APPEAR!!!" or imgane a gun lieing on the floor and pick up. hope thids helps..

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I tried GUN APPEAR! But I just read the Dream Control guide and next time I'll do the passive technique. Go by the laws of the universe and imagine a gun lying there, dropped by say... a policeman-officer who gave it infinite bullets with his magic ammo clip. I think that it will work better.

Try summoning the gun outside your field of vision. For example tell yourself "there is a gun lying in that dark alleyway" and actually believe it. Then simply walk over and there's the gun!

Dude why didn't you sommon the weapons first and then the zombies:shakehead2:

Invent a somewhat plausible reason for why there would be a gun behind you, tell yourself that it's true, then turn around and grab the gun. You're more likely to succeed in any aspect of dream control if you invent a reason for why things should be the way you want them to be, and the more plausible the reason, the more likely you are to succeed.

Yep, exactly. You could turn around and see that "parked car" behind you, which happens to be unlocked. You already know that because you're in a "zombie-infested area", any sensible person would have a gun in their glove box. Open the glove box and grab the gun that you know is there.

That's just one way of passive control. Just try to be able to justify every act of control you bestow upon your dreams, so that they remain as vivid and real as this one. (Was bestow the right word to use there? hmm.)

Yeah, I plan to use passive control from now on.

That was hilarious. A+ topic.

I find turning round, believing that whatever I want is behind me helps. More often then not it's there.

I've had trouble summoning guns before. And like I said, I've tried that. In my next lucid dream I'm going to use completely passive control. I'm gonna try a FILD tonight. I've got high hopes for the technique.

Funny dream, I'm reading your dream journal from now on, you got one here? Passive control is great, the dream tends to give you what you will need, it always does for me.

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Funny dream, I'm reading your dream journal from now on, you got one here? Passive control is great, the dream tends to give you what you will need, it always does for me.

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Yes but I barely update it considering that nobody reads it and for remembrance I have a notebook by my bed. If you're gonna be reading it I guess I'll update it more.

The first thing I tried to summon was a sword. I went to bed knowing I wanted to be able to have a sword. Many nights with no luck. The first thing that worked is alot like what others are saying, a believable reason beyond your current vision. I was fighting and asumed I must have friends fighting near me. I shouted " hey I need a sword, will you hand me one quickly!" then turned to find the friend I asumed should be there. Yep, some guy handed me a sword. Now, it has become much easier, but that was my first success.

OK I don’t like to encourage dreams that have gun violence, but I’m doing this for you’re sake.

When I am in a dream and try to summons some kind of weapon, I first try to be very patient with my thinking. After I have stood in the same spot for about 15 seconds. I tell my self I have "unlimited unlimited unlimited control, because this is my dream."
And if it works be very watchful of you’re emotions, be patient.


And If you’re impatient you could try 2 use exotic hand signals forming the profile of the weapon u want.


Also, even though you were lucid when you saw the zombies be careful not to believe they were even a little realistic. If you started to think the zombies were real you probably started to lose you’re powers. I always have trouble focusing on that.

When trying to summons the weapon try to keep the zombies in focus of being horrible fake. For instance, this is what I might have said, "The zombies are fake, and IM about to rocket launchem back to hell."


IDK IF THAT’S GONNA HELP, but I tried…………………

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Originally Posted by Necco

OK I don’t like to encourage dreams that have gun violence, but I’m doing this for you’re sake.

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They started it for being zombies, so why not summon a Desert Eagle and blow chunks out of their heads?

Because shotguns are better.

Or hunting rifles. Shotguns are better for the demonic kind.

There's a Desert Eagle in your back pocket, remember? Just pull it out and start blasting away.

for bigger objects (like a gattling gun turret?), reach behind you and feel for it. also, nice signature taNK (best book EVER)

last night i had the best luck with summoning ever...i "imagined" had a menu on my cell phone with anything i wanted in it and I could scroll through the pictures using the buttons...anytime i wanted something, I just kept hitting the down button and sooner or later whatever I wanted would appear in the menu, and a few seconds later, someone would bring me whatever I wanted. It worked with people too which was the first time I've ever been able to do that.

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Originally Posted by TaNK

There's a Desert Eagle in your back pocket, remember? Just pull it out and start blasting away.

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That's the technique I use. Or I get a DC to do things for me.

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Originally Posted by Drasnus

Or hunting rifles. Shotguns are better for the demonic kind.

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Chainsaws are even better for hordes of zombies.

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Originally Posted by Lunalight

That's the technique I use. Or I get a DC to do things for me.



Chainsaws are even better for hordes of zombies.

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Maybe, but old-timey lawnmowers seem to work just as well.

why would you want a handgun when you can have a KATANA? =P anyway, when I want it i just reach for it "knowing" it's there. It's not even forced control because I do it naturally not even thinking about it. but if you're having difficulties try passive control. It helped me a lot especially in summonings of people :P

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Originally Posted by Drasnus

Maybe, but old-timey lawnmowers seem to work just as well.

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Been playing Dead Rising, have you?

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Originally Posted by TaNK

Been playing Dead Rising, have you?

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No I was referring to the movie "BrainDead".

I use my 2 fingers to direct an object for telekenesis..... i just point my two fingers on a object and i move my fingers to make it move.. The size or shape do not matter as long as you make it clear that you can move anything with your power.

For zombies, i suggest you to use invincibility.... works perfectly for me once im in trouble lol :)

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I use my 2 fingers to direct an object for telekenesis..... i just point my two fingers on a object and i move my fingers to make it move.. The size or shape do not matter as long as you make it clear that you can move anything with your power.

For zombies, i suggest you to use invincibility.... works perfectly for me once im in trouble lol :)

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Why would I need invincibility? When I couldn't get a gun I killed the zombie with my fists of rage!

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Dude why didn't you sommon the weapons first and then the zombies:shakehead2:

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ROFL, this made me laff

why not run into a store and buy one? or steal one?
also, your signature says you can use an energy beam. Would that have been effective?



.:midnight_haze does not advocate stealing in any way:.

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Originally Posted by midnight_haze

why not run into a store and buy one? or steal one?
also, your signature says you can use an energy beam. Would that have been effective?



.:midnight_haze does not advocate stealing in any way:.

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I mastered the energy beam in a much later dream, also, the area I was in had no stores. Just houses and a road.

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Originally Posted by Drasnus

I mastered the energy beam in a much later dream, also, the area I was in had no stores. Just houses and a road.

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Oh, out of curiosity, what does the energy beam look like?

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Originally Posted by midnight_haze

Oh, out of curiosity, what does the energy beam look like?

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Massive blue line of radiating power coming from my outstretched hands.

heh heh...
sweet.

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Originally Posted by midnight_haze

heh heh...
sweet.

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I can also shoot fireballs.

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Originally Posted by Drasnus

I can also shoot fireballs.

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ooh, so can I! But it's more like throwing a giant, flaming, baseball.

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Originally Posted by Lunalight

ooh, so can I! But it's more like throwing a giant, flaming, baseball.

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Mine too actually.

So Drasnus,
it looks like you’re doing ok with the summoning. If you can already throw fireballs then why have a gun? And if you can create fireballs without struggle then I think you should continue updating you dream journal. I would like to read about you’re dreams.
Overall I am searching dream journals with all out dream control. I’m looking for someone who has a lot of power in his or her dreams. You seem interesting.

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Originally Posted by Necco

So Drasnus,
it looks like you’re doing ok with the summoning. If you can already throw fireballs then why have a gun? And if you can create fireballs without struggle then I think you should continue updating you dream journal. I would like to read about you’re dreams.
Overall I am searching dream journals with all out dream control. I’m looking for someone who has a lot of power in his or her dreams. You seem interesting.

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Look at the date. If you want to see the account of my strange (and ignored), multiple LD experience, Here.

You can also take a look at my repeating zombie attack in my Dream Journal.

Okay, and now for a follow up.


Here is an excerpt from my Journal:
I pushed my finger through my palm and became lucid. I started by simply flying (it was like using a no_clip cheat in a P.C. game) and passed through the walls. I came to a street and saw some men. They were aggressive looking and I decided to try spawning a gun. I said to myself that there was a gun in the pocket of my trench coat (which I was for some reason wearing) and felt around. Nothing. I tried again, nothing. I finally said that there IS a gun there because I put one there yesterday for such an occasion. I pulled it out to find that it was misshapen. The handle was far to short and at an angle inward while the muzzle was pointing upward. I threw it down and tried again, this time an acceptable gun came out. I pulled the trigger, CLICK. I said that it was loaded as I always kept it loaded. CLICK. I grew frustrated and threw it away.

As you can see, I still have trouble summoning a gun. Perhaps I should try to think about how it works, and what it looks like before summoning?

yeah, I'm sure other people have said this, but verbal commands really do work wonders. for me, I say something along the lines of "this is MY dream, and i want a gun NOW!"

Otherwise, convince yourself that there is a gun your pocket. Don't summon it, but know that it is there before you reach for it.

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yeah, I'm sure other people have said this, but verbal commands really do work wonders. for me, I say something along the lines of "this is MY dream, and i want a gun NOW!"

Otherwise, convince yourself that there is a gun your pocket. Don't summon it, but know that it is there before you reach for it.

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That's what I meant.