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      Whether or not we can find them doesn't prove they don't exist. They could be hard to find but hold information for us, or they might just be a window to our subconscious, or they might just be an idea people believe and that's it.

      We can't know for sure until we try.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Avalanche View Post
      Whether or not we can find them doesn't prove they don't exist. They could be hard to find but hold information for us, or they might just be a window to our subconscious, or they might just be an idea people believe and that's it.

      We can't know for sure until we try.
      Okay. But why bother trying? Why not instead build your own self-awareness and self-knowledge, and learn to guide yourself? Why depend on some etheric guide to tell us what to do?

      And, that said, if we become very advanced in LD'ing and high-end awareness, wouldn't dream guides be noticed somewhere along the way anyway?

      I don't know...the whole thing seems to me like lazy wishful thinking: "I can't do this on my own (or simply don't feel like doing the work required), so I sure do hope someone comes along and does it for me." I've had that notion myself in the past; this stuff can get frustrating. But to hope that there is someone else out there who'll do the work for me does not seem like the right path out of that frustration. It's a path toward religion and psychic stagnation.

      In a sense it seems like a fine idea to invent a dream guide, as long as you hold onto the knowledge that you did the inventing. But when you start believing they're real, period, you step away from your own growth.

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