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Well In my own experience trying to find my DG all I have got is a NO for an answer even when I'm trying really hard to find it, so IDK if it's a magical being that knows everything about you but I do know that he/she/it exists, how do I know? because of the way my DC's answer to that question, they kind of take it seriously so I do (:
This might be a bit soon but i tried it this morning.
I tend to have a Lucid dream almost every morning but i tend to try and play god in them so i usually leave the dream alone and let it play out on its own but this time i asked "Do i have a dream guide?" and as i was turning around i heard a yes and saw the girl she looked different but the moment i saw her it was as if a bolt of electricity shot through me.
After that i remember sitting at a table outside the restaurant i work and had a piece of paper with nonsense on it except for the last 3 lines but i cant remember what they were :(
I fell asleep again and when i woke up again it was all kinda vague now im not sure if it happened or my mind made it up.
I posted as much as i can remember and im asking those of you who can talk to their DGs was it real or just a dream?
Are DGs real? Good question. Are dreams real? Is this life real?
Back to topic, yes, DGs are very real. I have yet to discover whether they are spiritual entities on the astral plane (no idea about THAT), or reoccuring DCs with their own chains of thoughts or actions. I would either put them down as reoccuring DCs or manifestations of your personality (or subconscious, can't be sure :S) in a dream. There is no difference between DGs, except the feel a lot different. You just feel so familiar, so 'in tune' with them. Like you do with a childhood friend or a lover. You just feel so HAPPY. In short, DGs produce a wholly different type of feeling compared to regular DCs, and did I mention they have their own minds and power to make decisions? Tell a DC, 'Bring me a soda!', and you get a soda. Tell my DG that and you get a kick. ^_^
In my experience, a lot seems to depend on whether deep inside you believe you can get to your DG or not. If all you get from DC's is a "No" when you ask them for help, it might be nothing more than the subconscious (or conscious) fear of failure. Me, I made numerous attempts - asking DC's, yelling at the sky, talking to myself, trying to find my DG in my cellphone's address book. All to no avail. Then I remembered one dream I had, in which I was leaving an apartment, in which I spent a while talking to a girl. She seemed sad about me leaving, so I promised her I'd be back. And somehow, even when I woke up, it made sense to me that I have to go back and find her. Even though most dreams - no matter how crazy, vivid and captivating - eventually lose importance, this one got me thinking. So now in my LD's I'm trying to get back to that place - which is an actual place, a building in my hometown. A bunch of times I almost made it. One time, I went there by bike and was not more than 200 meters away from the place when I woke up. The other time, I was even closer, but on foot. But then I saw my grandma, so I asked her about my DG, and she pointed me down the street I was walking, at the end of which the said building is located. So I think I might be on to something here. And maybe that belief is what it's all about. Maybe if I *believe* I can meet her there, she'll step forward and meet me halfway?
I'm not sure who my DG is yet, but there are two people I have met in my dreams who could be them... I kinda forgot to ask if they were... :roll:
YES! GO FOR IT!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fitz
You are definitely on the right track! Keep at it and your subconscious will respond soon! Do message me of any progress. :)
I had an interesting dream last night... I became lucid, but for some reason doing a reality check didn't even cross my mind, but I decided I wanted to try and communicate with my DG so I went into another room, because there were tons and tons of people around making tons and tons of noise...
I could still hear it in the other room and I've never been good at dream control so I just opened the door and told them all to shut the hell up basically. And they did. Then I asked "Do I have a dream guide" and this voice replied "yes" so I asked "Can I see my dream guide?" but there was no reply and a few seconds later, I woke up. :(
Yeah dream guides can tricky to find and you should not stop searching!
I found mine about 7 months ago from beach restaurants cellars bed just waiting for me there.
She talks pretty weirdly and everything she does is somehow symbolic referring to "similarity" in between us.
Her name is Vetta Sarala and i have seen her only 2 times this far(though i have sought for her 3 times) still those encounters have memorable moments as her "personality" in sea of DCs is stunning, one character "higher than the rest" ,no drone of the story but seemingly real person outside my forced authority.
Unique
In my case I have pretty much screwd up both encounters by not giving her enough space with my constant rush to have fun, so for me and you rest when you find you guide: listen, give, receive.
They have lot to give to you if just have the time...
Great tutorial btw
Linnypig: Yeah, don't you hate it when that happens? I woke up a bunch of times in a similar situation, since my main goal in those particular LD's was to find my DG, so if they said I couldn't/nobody responded, it defeated the purpose :(
DreamState66: Thanks for that story, because it makes me even more certain that I might've taken the wrong approach in virtually spewing my lungs out trying to get to her. In my LD's, I still take too much physical effort to do things, like running, which seems to wears me out and raise my pulse just as it does in real life - which eventually causes me to wake up. In some of these dreams, I managed to overcome the obstacle by flying or finding a bike, which makes things SO much easier - but still doesn't get me there. I think it's all about *knowing* she'll be there and she'll appear when the time is right. Just as I kept telling myself while awake that there'd be a bike waiting for me in my LD - so this one time, I just found it, standing there, waiting, without even thinking about it while in the dream.
And today I had a dream that I think bears some significance... Not a lucid dream, just a regular one, but still intriguing. So I was cutting my own hair with a razor - much shorter than I usually get my hair done, too. I take this to be a symbol - of me trying something new, and actually loving it. Of a positive change. And I remember some girl being around when I did that. A friend... who I think was someone special. I can't remember what she looked like, I didn't even remember the dream upon waking up, I recalled it later in the morning... Plus, I only slept like 6 hours (stupid neighbors!), and that's a killer for my dream recall.
But... it was still something. Let's see how things unfold... :)
I think I have seen my DG but only in non-lucid dreams. Next time I LD I'll try to remember to look for her. In my latest one things got kinda out of control with the plot and I spent all my time dealing with that instead of doing what I wanted to do which was find her or practice dream control in a quiet environment not one where people are trying to kill me...
Wow it never occurred to me that I may not have met my dream guide yet because I am not ready, I thought I just wasn't going about the search right.
How do you know if you are ready/not ready to find ur DG, i believe im ready. but... every time im lucid. i try to find my DG. ive tried shouting for them, trying to summon them behind doors. ive even asked a dc to take me to my dg, but they ALWAYS trick me. my DCs are Freakin bastards i tell ya. and everytime ive "found" my DG its just been a DC pretending, its sooo frustrating. especially coz i once found who i thought was my DG, he was a very different DC, more intellegent than usual. and clearer to look at. my dcs are often blurry or their features change alot. and i remember speaking for him for some time and asking if he was my DG he said he was very sorry but he wasnt.. then i laughed and asked if he could be? and he said sorry im not asigned to you :s but anywho. im getting very.. frustrated.. where is my DG and why cant i find them
You should check Jungs character archetypes, interesting stuff... Archetype - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I find my DG to be hybrid of "wise old woman" and "anima"
So can one not have a dream guide? Every time I ask I get the same answer - No.
There's a reason you keep getting the same answer. Asking again won't change it ;)
Hmm... NoddyMaye got me thinking with the DG's response "Sorry, I'm not assigned to you"...
In other news... As a means of dream incubation, I went to that place I think my DG is at, but in real life. I was very focussed, and kept imagining it was just a dream and she'd walk up to me. To no avail, unfortunately. Maybe because I ended up distracted - and annoyed - by something else. But I've made this a part of my daily routine: to instinctively assume the world around me is a dream and do RC's only to see if maybe I'm wrong. Seems to help - I had two LD's last night!
yeah got me thinking too... buttt i just want to find my dream guide. everytime recently that i ask a dc if i have a dg.they give me this cheaky smile and say yes.. i wish i knew what they were smiling about lol and i wish they would help me find my dg..ohhh well.. just gotta wait it out i guess.
Hm, maybe they are smiling and suggesting that you are your own dream guide? I don't know. I saw a post the other day which (to me) suggested you could create your own dream guide. The poster had stated the dream guide will conform to your expectations... I've seen others say pretty much the opposite, but since I haven't gotten the chance to properly meet mine yet I can't say. Maybe the guide is only "better" than your other DCs because you make it so?
Optimism is the best policy! I am waiting for the wonderful moment when I find my own personal DG! Anxiously waiting, that is ^.^
I've been looking for my DG in three LDs and in the first one I had no answer. In The second one, an old woman said to me: "you are your DG". And in the 3rd one, a DC with the appearance of my mother smiled while levitating in front of me BEFORE I tried to do so to make her realize we were in a dream. I said to her: "I've not found my DG." And, with her smile in her face, he replied: "But, weren't you your own DG?". She was looking directly to my eyes, but apart from having a personality (my other DCs don't read my thoughts and anticipate my actions, and don't answer with sarcasm -yet) I didn't felt this great awe feeling.
Maybe I don't want my mom to be my DG (although she has been my RG -reality guide- all my life), but I'm now thinking about remembering some insightful nonlucid dreams where the figure of a teacher/guide was present where I really felt a great reverence for these DCs.
Shit I'm now being shocked by one of my most precious dreams, where a tribal young girl, supervised by a wise old tribal man (a shaman), in a tropical river meander, after a ritual that involved eating a strange paste, said to me: "With this eye (her left eye) I can see the Other World. Now you also can do it." What a great wholeness I felt in that dream... I even entered the Gates of the Underworld, guarded by the Serpent Guard and watched by the Cut off Head.
I asked her name also. Ksheenia or Ksheela was it. Tonight I'm gonna find her.
It seems like most of us expect our DG to be an attractive person of the opposite sex, doesn't it? :) I know I do! And I *think* something happened in my dream last night. In that dream I met a girl on the bus - and there was this instant simpatico. We had a short little chat, then she went away for a second - and when I got out on my bus stop, I noticed she did, too. She came up to me, we talked a little, all smiles, and then out of nowhere, she just huggled me. I asked her why she did, and she said "I don't know, I just like you a lot!". Nicest thing that happened to me in a WHILE. Then we went to a nearby booksture to indulge in some book hunting... Lots of fun! And I can't tell whether she was just a very nice DC or... perhaps... my DG. I actually went as far as telling her I believe that she in fact is my DG. It was something I just couldn't help myself with, I had to say it out loud. Kind of like "I think I'm in love with you".
And after this intense confession.... I woke up! :P
At first I felt a little silly, because I felt I rushed it. And also, all these years I believed someone else to be my DG - a girl I met once in my dream, 2,5 years ago, whom I promised I'd be back. But then I realized the bookstore we were at was probably the same building the other girl lived in. And the same place I'd been trying to reach in my previous LD's and never managed to. And maybe I was wrong about the other girl. Or maybe they are both one "person"? They looked different, but they could be one anima in different forms? Hmm...
Either way, it was the nicest - and probably the most intensely realistic - dream I had in a WHILE. My dream recall had dropped to almost zero over the past month or so, and the only dreams I could remember were either annoying (being in college again) or stressful (I keep having these Prison Break dreams), and it's been months since my last LD. This one wasn't fully lucid all the way, but I had moments of full lucidity. And the girl... There was something about her. The way she looked at me, straight in the eye... I don't know. In most LD's DC's were mostly hard to talk to - either very quiet and subservient or totally uncooperative. This one... Our conversation was very lively - and at one point she even corrected me. A small mistake on my part that I wasn't aware of - and was surprised she noticed and corrected it, since she's supposed to be a part of my mind. Hmmm...
Whether or not DG's exist isn't up to the person. They either exist as a whole, or not at all. I doubt you can just believe in one and suddenly have one, if that happens, I think it's just your mind making a DC be independent, or seem different. Then again, I could be wrong, we simply do not know.
I'm not entirely sure, but I think my DG may be a blue canary. It was there in my first lucid dream and I think it made me do an R.C., out of nowhere. I don't know.
I just believe that a DG is a DC we place a greater sense of intelligence/understanding on. But I'm fine with respecting the opinions of people such as the OP.
Regardless, even I still think it would be nice to have a recurring DC or a "DG" that I personally spend more time with.
I remembered another thing from that dream I described above that might be of some importance... The girl's job was to check if everyone on the bus has a valid ticket. So when we talked about it later, she said her job isn't about punishing, it's about checking if everything is as it should be. Only after I pondered on these words yesterday did it occur to me it might carry a deeper meaning and that in fact I might've met my DG.
i'm guessing your dream guide is the part of your subconcious that you can actually interract with in your dreams, perhaps the guides appearance is either a personification of people youve seen and interracted with in the real world, made into a form you are comfortable with.....or perhaps..if you believe in such things, someone from one of your msany past lives that may still be in subconcious or somewhere acting as an interface to your subconcious.....perhaps?
personally, I don't really believe in a dream guide, which is probably why I have never seen anyone in a LD claiming to be him/her. I think all DC's are just projections of your subconscious, and it could be a possibility that your dreamguide is a subconscious representation/projection of a special figure in your waking life. If DC are really projections of your subconscious and if your DG is a DC, then obviously it is possible for this "DG" to know everything about you and all about your personality and beliefs, which are ingrained into your subconscious which is what the characters are made of.
I have the same opinion, but you never know. I am keeping my mind open to the idea. Anyway, I like this guide :)Quote:
Originally Posted by lawilahd
Thanks for your fascinating post, you explain it with a passionate enthusiasm. When you spoke about the hairs on the back of your neck standing up, I could almost feel it.
I'v been aware of people having dream guides, but I'v never really given much thought to having one of my own. I'v had some pretty interesting and deeply interlectual conversations with some DC's, but I had a good chuckle when you said how stupid DC's generally are. There I am floating 8 feet of the ground, I say "look I'm flying" they just look back as if to say "yeah... so what"
You'v inspired me to try and find my dream giude, I can understand the benefits to finding them.
Thanks again
I don't know if this counts, but I always seem to be with someone in my dreams who just comes along with me. Like I know they would be there, and it would make sense them being there, but I never look at them directly nor do they have a face or name. They never say anything either.
Not sure if that's a dream guide or just a random DC that's with me.
It is possible to consider every character in a dream as a guide in some way. It is also possible to consider every being and everything as a guide in some way, and it is possible for you yourself to also be a companion and guide to all of everything else. In fact, I think this is the way it was designed.
That is assuming there is a design in the first place. It is either a random hallucination of the mind, or actually your subconscious taking steps to further itself, i.e. you.
If it is the latter, then why would it make just one guide, and why hide it? Why not make every dream a lesson and a class of learning that you assess with ease every night?
Could it be possible your subconscious actually wants you to work for the secrets it may hold?
Yes! You are on to it and now it can be an Avalanche. When the subconscious and the conscious minds meet, there can be an Avalanche. So perhaps that is how you came to be. The thing to do is to bring this to all, because the all is the one and the one is the all. Done internally, this is for once and for all, and a point of no returning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avalanche
So then there are no dream guides. Or rather dream guides do not exist until after a dreamer wakes up and decides that a particular DC was a dream guide. That makes sense to me, I suppose. It's also encouraging to hear, since I've never understood why people think they need someone to hold their hands and/orr properly herd them around their own dreams.
Whether or not we can find them doesn't prove they don't exist. They could be hard to find but hold information for us, or they might just be a window to our subconscious, or they might just be an idea people believe and that's it.
We can't know for sure until we try.
Okay. But why bother trying? Why not instead build your own self-awareness and self-knowledge, and learn to guide yourself? Why depend on some etheric guide to tell us what to do?Quote:
Originally Posted by Avalanche
And, that said, if we become very advanced in LD'ing and high-end awareness, wouldn't dream guides be noticed somewhere along the way anyway?
I don't know...the whole thing seems to me like lazy wishful thinking: "I can't do this on my own (or simply don't feel like doing the work required), so I sure do hope someone comes along and does it for me." I've had that notion myself in the past; this stuff can get frustrating. But to hope that there is someone else out there who'll do the work for me does not seem like the right path out of that frustration. It's a path toward religion and psychic stagnation.
In a sense it seems like a fine idea to invent a dream guide, as long as you hold onto the knowledge that you did the inventing. But when you start believing they're real, period, you step away from your own growth.
Rather than a desire to have their hand held, people are drawn to the notion that there is some separate and intelligent element in their sub-conscious, particularly when the dream guide is seen as an attractive and idealised figure of the opposite sex, people seem to want to conflate dream guides with the anima/animus; the ideal of a dream guide is romanticised, even more so if you care to speculate about the possibility of 'spirit guides' and other external influences (which I don't believe in).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sageous
Also I hate the idea that dreams are simply random sensations and firing neurons along with associated images that are then interpreted upon awakening into what we know as dreams, it isn't compatible with lucid dreaming and it detracts from the meaning of dreams. I do believe their are elements of the sub-conscious that are separate and parallel to the conscious.
I think I'm rambling now...
I think your definition of Dream guide is different to mine. I see them as possibly being a representation of our own minds (as dreams are what our subconscious creates when "we" are asleep). If they are in a human form, meaning they can speak back, then in theory you can talk with your conscious mind to what you subconscious mind has created. The dream guide is more of a prestigious title for what really is a subconscious manifestation. I don't believe the DG has super duper secrets for me to tell me how to unlock my true potential, but I do think it would be interesting to speak with something in your mind, not made by you.
When I say "made by you" I mean something you imagined, made up, created etc. You subconscious is almost completely independent of your conscious mind. It would be like joining the two halves that existed together but never really interacted.
I don't expect to finally find my super duper dream spirit magical animal guide and we will learn secrets from each other and unlock my own SUPERPOWERS, nor do I think I need a hand to hold as I navigate my dreams.
Well said. I was actually using the generally accepted dream guide definition out there, and not yours specifically. In truth I am myself in search of that connection to my "subconscious" -- as I've said before, I hate that word -- to consciously tap and understand the basic nature of my being, of my soul. I suppose using the metaphor of a dream guide -- as long as you are able to remember that it's just a metaphor -- is as good a tool as any to make the exploration. As long as you are able to maintain that it is just a metaphor, and don't drift into a belief system that there really is an external being there to do the work for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avalanche
You can either-
Believe the dream guide is like some higher being in your head which has many many secrets to tell you
See that a dream guide is a manifestation of your subconscious, which is widely accepted as being separate from you conscious mind
or
Dream guides do not exist and they are just DC's who happen to talk more, possibly related to a placebo effect where you expect them to respond better than other DC's, and they do.
What is the soul? Where is it? Certainly not in your heart, your brain? Buried somewhere in your prefrontal cortex? Or your deep brain? Is it an advanced brain function, or basic, a primordial remnant from evolution, or is it intelligent and conscious? How do you justify your belief in the soul if you reject the concept of a sub-conscious?Quote:
In truth I am myself in search of that connection to my "subconscious" -- as I've said before, I hate that word -- to consciously tap and understand the basic nature of my being, of my soul. I suppose using the metaphor of a dream guide -- as long as you are able to remember that it's just a metaphor -- is as good a tool as any to make the exploration. As long as you are able to maintain that it is just a metaphor, and don't drift into a belief system that there really is an external being there to do the work for you.
I'm not trying to be confrontational, I'm interested in what your opinion is :)
First, I don't reject the subconscious, I just don't like the use of that word to describe the part of my mind that takes care of all the nattering details of consciousness and gets me through my waking life (and goes nuts during my dreaming life). It's not "sub" anything -- it's part and parcel to my mind, and a fully functioning -- if not occasionally dominant -- component of my consciousness. Also, just because a part of my mind that contains a vast wealth of information and wisdom is difficult to directly access does not mean that it is not a part of my consciousness, or of my self. It's all still me. No "rejection" intended. Subconscious is simply the wrong word for the "concept.".Quote:
Originally Posted by Ctharlhie
I always hesitate before I type the word "soul" anywhere. This is because the word elicits responses in people (usually religious) that might have nothing to do with what I am talking about. Unfortunately, it's a difficult word to avoid sometimes.
What is the soul? Good question! First, I mean to imply nothing religious. Please keep that in mind. Second, I really need a book-length post to describe what I think the soul is, so this is not the right venue for a proper answer. But here we go anyway:
In my opinion, the soul is an accumulation of a lifetime of thought energy that coherently binds to itself and forms a self-sustaining orb of sentient energy that both reflects your personality and becomes a repository for all of your life's experience. The quality of your soul depends solely on the quality of the thoughts that form it -- so a lifetime of good, strong thoughts will make a good, strong, bright soul, and a lifetime of bad, weak, or empty thoughts will produce a crinkly little ball of ineffectual energy. Since it is formed by an energy (thought energy) that exists outside the realm of Nature as we know it, to be able to explore this accumulation of energy while you're still alive might open doors to transcendence, immortality, and perhaps real communion with other realities and dimensions. Currently the only way that I know of to explore it while still breathing is through advanced lucid dreaming or perhaps hyper-advanced meditation.
And no, the soul does not reside in the heart, brain, prefrontal cortex, or even the pancreas, because it it is not a product of DNA -- it is a product of sentience, which is a totally new thing, nature-wise. Since it is composed of thoght energy, which is not governed by the (known) laws of nature, it may literally exist outside time and space; nowhere at all! It is on its own not sentient (neither is the subconscious), and is neither intelligent or conscious while you are still alive and building it, but I like to believe that after death your consciousness is able to transfer to it, and allow your own existence to continue within its energy. So best not make a crinkly ball during life!
Hey, you asked...
Do you believe in transmigration/reincarnation of souls, then? Or some other afterlife? For me I'm not quite sure what I believe, for there to be a soul then I think that our conscious thought, our mind, would have to be something more than a bundle of neurons in the forebrain firing off at random, it would have to be more than simply a physical, neurological construct (which in of itself is just astounding, and should be seen as a miracle of nature).
Recently I have been going through something of a philosophical, maybe spiritual (in a reserved way), change in attitude and belief. I used to be a nihilist atheist (maybe I was rebelling against church school education), now I have a more open-minded attitude, although I'm not sure what I believe now.
Bringing things more on topic, I think your beliefs are compatible with the concept of a dream guide.
I wanted to add a bit to the soul talk. Souls seem to work outside of time and space. My opinion is that a soul is an accumulation of lifetimes of experiences and responses to this. Reincarnation isn't a factor here as souls never really die. What does die is the body or whatever form the soul decides to take. That's my two-cents.
Anyhow, all this Dream Guide talk is interesting. I think there are DGs out there but what is a DG? Some claim it's just another person with a mind of their own who can help them with dreaming. A DG seems pretty abstract and the various assortment of DGs seem daunting. In fact, anyone seems able to be one. All you really need is the willingness to share your opinion on something and bam... instant DG.
Do I think DGs are useful? Sure. Clothing is useful too. Seriously though, a DG is only as useful as an individual allows them to be. I'm sure personality plays a factor, I mean it'd be completely useless to have a DG who has absolutely no idea how to communicate with you or can't explain themselves clearly. Do I think DGs help solve problems for lazy dreamers? No clue. Although if I were a dream guide who came across a lazy dreamer and I had better things to do, sure, I'd totally do their homework for them. On the other hand, if I were feeling sadistic, I might decide on another route.
Personally, I think I've had a number of transitory DGs. Some acted as protectors until I was ready to take on the big bad world of dreaming alone and some have taught me things regarding death, crystals, healing, etc. Did I ever ask them to do things for me? Sure! Did I use it as an escape? Not usually. I think DGs and people who interact with DGs and the reasons for this are numerous. It's just like waking life and school. How many of us need teachers? How many of our teachers did we find useful? How many of our teachers did we like as human beings? How did our age affect how we interacted with our teachers? There are just too many variables involved to say whether or not DGs are real/useful/part of our lives.
In the end, I think everyone should have their own approach for discovering their DG. The working relationship involved is a personal one. My personal preference in a DG is someone who acts more as a friend than a teacher. For example, when I help other people I help them coming from a friend perspective, an equal. Everyone knows something which someone else doesn't. This way I see everyone as a potential DG. The relationship dynamics within the realm of DG'ness can sometimes blur which makes it even more difficult to find or identify a DG. My solution to this: While in a dream, shout for your DG. Then pay attention. Easy. People make things like this more complicated than it needs to be. Just believe you have one and you'll either find or manifest one into existence :D
To be honest I think as with many things in lucid dreaming, dream guides become unnecessarily over-complicated by people. To me a dream guide is a more than usually aware, knowledgeable and cogent dream figure that the dreamer is able to project certain characteristics on.
I'm not a big fan of reincarnation -- I simply don't see a need for a soul, after being energized by its maker's consciousness, to "go back." Since something like transmigration happens once in the form of uniting with your soul after death, I suppose that might be a concept to partially "believe in." And, of course, obviously I must believe in some sort of afterlife, since that is what the continuation of consciousness in the soul after death of the body is indeed afterlife. No rapture, heaven or hell or what have you, but still an afterlife.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ctharlhie
Agreed. Now, consider that something more to be sentience. Imagine that a sentient (self-aware, thinking, remembering) being is a new form of energy engine in this universe. The energy it produces is from its thought, and this thought energy is unique, keys directly to the consciousness of the sentient individual. Think of this energy (and the soul that might form from it) as the result of the miracle of nature that produced thought in the first place -- our brains.Quote:
For me I'm not quite sure what I believe, for there to be a soul then I think that our conscious thought, our mind, would have to be something more than a bundle of neurons in the forebrain firing off at random, it would have to be more than simply a physical, neurological construct (which in of itself is just astounding, and should be seen as a miracle of nature).
But none of this has anything to do with dream guides, so I'll stop now. For further reading on this, you might check out a little book called Simply Pay Attention that does a more thorough job presenting this idea of a self-made soul.
I did not think that when I entered this conversation, but I think as I step away from the closed, dogmatic, concept of dream guide that I held earlier and towards a more general picture of a DG, its nature, and purpose, I am coming around. I guess that makes this a good thread for me!Quote:
Recently I have been going through something of a philosophical, maybe spiritual (in a reserved way), change in attitude and belief. I used to be a nihilist atheist (maybe I was rebelling against church school education), now I have a more open-minded attitude, although I'm not sure what I believe now.
Bringing things more on topic, I think your beliefs are compatible with the concept of a dream guide.
That's exactly it. Where people go astray is the "guide" bit. Saying they are a guide means they have a role or a task to guide or help you through whatever. This has never been proven or confirmed, and there is no real reason to back it up, save the name, which was made up to glorify the image, rather than saying "Better dream character who can actually talk"Quote:
Originally Posted by Ctharlhie
I can b a dream guide if you can find me, but this Spiritofthewolf is not a good dreamer and will never find a real dream guide by this sort of bs.
Dream guide won't you be?
Dream guide walk by me
Dream guide don't you see?
You mean everything to me
Dream guide I love you so
Dream guide please don't go
You have to have a lot of love and emotion
Like the waves upon the ocean
Dream guide you light my days
Dream guide I must say
You light my nights
and I know that you can't stay
for it's me and I have to go
I have to go my way
Dream don't worry
It'll be alright
Because dream guide
I love you right
Dreamguide
Now, if you replace "dream guide" with "random dream character" they don't seem half as cool or mystical.
It's all about their name really.
How does a DG decide if it's ready to appear to you? I'm kind of young, in my early teens (prime dreaming years!) anyways is it all related to your skill as a dreamer or would maturity level and other personal factors be part of if your DG is going to appear to you?
Depends on how open you are to the actual idea of a dream guide. If you don't expect to find one and you don't believe in one, you probably won't meet one. Or if you never heard of the concept then you would probably never meet anything like it.
If you really wanted to meet one or you believed in them 100%, or you thought about them all the time, then odds are you would meet something claiming to be a DG.
Wow. This is a very good guide to finding one's dreamguide. :)
I am yet to have a good lucid dream, but I am hoping that when I do, I would be able to find my dreamguide.