Thread: Dream guide?

Originally Posted by DownrightDreamr

I think that there is definitely a difference between your dream guide and your other dream characters (I have yet to have my first lucid dream so this is purely an untested theory). I feel that your regular dream characters can be manipulated by your will while your dream guide would be a higher entity that could not be as easily manipulated or maybe could not be manipulated at all. I have heard accounts where the dreamer's dream guide gave off a different energy than the other dream characters. I think that this is because the DCs are projections of your subconscious while a Dream Guide would be something else entirely.

From my own experience dream guides aren't higher entities, it's a just an importance we assign to them. In general the more important something is in a lucid dream the more focus you will place on it's detail and persistence. I've had two dream guides who act extremely naturally, but it quickly became apparent that as soon as I controlled them they lost there own abilities.

There no evidence to suggest that dream guides might be higher entities, or the other way around. I think it's something you have to decide for yourself, but keep in mind that humans are the experts of delusion, even to ourselves. Just because an image jumps out at you doesn't mean it's necessarily unconventional. It's important to realize that we all want to be unique and believe in the otherworldly, so you can properly assess you situation before jumping to a conclusion.

Originally Posted by dutchraptor

From my own experience dream guides aren't higher entities, it's a just an importance we assign to them. In general the more important something is in a lucid dream the more focus you will place on it's detail and persistence. I've had two dream guides who act extremely naturally, but it quickly became apparent that as soon as I controlled them they lost there own abilities.

There no evidence to suggest that dream guides might be higher entities, or the other way around. I think it's something you have to decide for yourself, but keep in mind that humans are the experts of delusion, even to ourselves. Just because an image jumps out at you doesn't mean it's necessarily unconventional. It's important to realize that we all want to be unique and believe in the otherworldly, so you can properly assess you situation before jumping to a conclusion.

Your beliefs play some sort of part in what you experience in your dream too. If you try to turn your dream character into something in which you want to control, it probaly will morph into your subconsious creation and any real entity will have faded out since you are trying to make it into something. That's how the dream realm works a lot of the time cause it's a dimensional field which you can navigate different. There is no evidence for tones of things. Did you know at one time skeptics didn't even think there was evidence of lucid dreams, that it was impossible. LOL

Originally Posted by wikipedia

skeptics of the phenomenon suggest that it is not a state of sleep, but of brief wakefulness. Others point out that there is no way to prove the truth of lucid dreaming other than to ask the dreamer, Philosopher Norman Malcolm's 1959 text Dreaming[22] had argued against the possibility of checking the accuracy of dream reports. He points out "The only criterion of the truth of a statement that someone has had a certain dream is, essentially, his saying so."

If you look back on lots of past statements in science about the impossibility of Lucid dreams, it becomes quite comical about the things they were skeptical of, just because they think there is no 'evidence' for something, it's never been a good measure of how correct they actually were.

To me, when I have a Lucid dream, often it feels just as real as if I am awake. I in no way feel like I am in my bed asleep. I don't even feel like I am laying down at all. This to me goes beyond something in my head, it's an entire realm of it's own. I believe 100% that in my Lucid dreams I am outside of my body completely in a different dimension. Not that I am forcing anyone to make that conclusion, but it only seems from my experience the realistic conclusion to make, cause that's my experience of it.