Sex Dreams

[AnotherDreamer]

How can I make sex more vivid and awesome in dreams? I am not even talking about making it so it's just like regular sex. I am talking about some tantric sex, rising up to the level of ecstatic consciousness. Maybe a lucid dream that is just one long orgasm. Can this be done? Has anybody ever tried it?

[VagalTone]

That would be a very advanced thing, not only in dreams ! But specially in dreams, of course ! I think everybody has tried it

[Earthatic]

Not intentionally, no. Consciously avoid it, fear it or be repelled by it, and it will follow you like a moth to a flame. Trust me. I get annoyed when stuff like this happens, and before I knew how to manage it, I'd have drawn-out intrusions half of the time I'd try to LD. Also, trying to experience it as one long stretch would be more or less impractical. In case you haven't noticed this obvious issue, I'll remind you: on a moment to moment basis, dreams tend to change. You might be experiencing an orgasm, and then open your eyes to see that your alarm clock is trying to rape you, prompting you to discontinue, feeling weirded out and all. The entire experience is usually short-lived, too. If you know how to re-enter dreams, like some people on DV can, you can try to pursue it over and over instead of trying to have one long experience. I've done that (to varying degrees of success) when trying to converse with dream characters, creating landscapes and inducing emotional changes—not orgasmic feelings, but feelings of intense joy and peace, to the point of it being tear-inducing—and it took me a while to understand how the dynamics function and how everything responds to your state of mind. You could try doing the same thing. Since the experiences usually end up being short anyway, I think this is a better approach. FYI, almost no one has a solid handle on dream manipulation of this sort. It's very elusive. You might be able to reach the goal faster through meditation.

[FryingMan]

I'd direct your attention to Sivason's recent excellent dream with a 20-30-minute continuous "porn shoot." It took re-stabilization every 4 minutes or so he mentioned. Now, he's an expert dreamer and the site dream yoga teacher, so he has serious skills, but the point is yes it can be done. Dream Yoga may be the best path to building the skills sufficient to do this. anotherdreamer, you have the frequency of lucida where you can serious study this and experiment, I think. Once I get my frequency up to reliably be many LDs per night, I'll pursue something similar .

[VagalTone]

Dream Yoga may be the best path to building the skills sufficient to do this Once I get my frequency up to reliably be many LDs per night, I'll pursue something similar . :yumdumdoodledum: Edit: sorry but this thread makes me happy

[AnotherDreamer]

Not intentionally, no. Consciously avoid it, fear it or be repelled by it, and it will follow you like a moth to a flame. Trust me. I get annoyed when stuff like this happens, and before I knew how to manage it, I'd have drawn-out intrusions half of the time I'd try to LD. I really like that idea, I'll definitely try it! Also, trying to experience it as one long stretch would be more or less impractical. In case you haven't noticed this obvious issue, I'll remind you: on a moment to moment basis, dreams tend to change. You might be experiencing an orgasm, and then open your eyes to see that your alarm clock is trying to rape you, prompting you to discontinue, feeling weirded out and all. The entire experience is usually short-lived, too. If you know how to re-enter dreams, like some people on DV can, you can try to pursue it over and over instead of trying to have one long experience. I've done that (to varying degrees of success) when trying to converse with dream characters, creating landscapes and inducing emotional changes—not orgasmic feelings, but feelings of intense joy and peace, to the point of it being tear-inducing—and it took me a while to understand how the dynamics function and how everything responds to your state of mind. You could try doing the same thing. Since the experiences usually end up being short anyway, I think this is a better approach. FYI, almost no one has a solid handle on dream manipulation of this sort. It's very elusive. You might be able to reach the goal faster through meditation. I fear you might be right, I do practice meditation on compassion quite regularly and I almost always get that tear-inducing joy and peace. But it never lasts in waking life meditations, I always get pulled back to the waking dream. I thought this might be a practical idea in dreams because I have experienced intense orgasms in dreams that lasted quite a while. But when I wake up after them, there is no cum and my dick isn't even hard so I have come to the conclusion that the experience was all in my head with no actual physical manifestation necessary. So I thought that maybe I could experience orgasmic-like ecstatic consciousness in dreams because my ability to vividly create an experience that is completely in my imagination (with no external stimulus required) seems to be much greater. I'd direct your attention to Sivason's recent excellent dream with a 20-30-minute continuous "porn shoot." It took re-stabilization every 4 minutes or so he mentioned. Now, he's an expert dreamer and the site dream yoga teacher, so he has serious skills, but the point is yes it can be done. Dream Yoga may be the best path to building the skills sufficient to do this. anotherdreamer, you have the frequency of lucida where you can serious study this and experiment, I think. Once I get my frequency up to reliably be many LDs per night, I'll pursue something similar . Yes, I read that dream, was pretty awesome! For a long time I would practice manifesting celebrities, models, dream girls, whatever I wanted to have awesome sex dreams with. I remember, one of my favorite sex dreams I created about 20 different amazingly beautiful girls and then had a giant orgy with them, was glorious!! But now I really want to take it to the next level of experience. I guess I was just hoping that there was somebody out there that has gone down this path that could help me. Even a reference to a book or some kind of resource I would really appreciate.

[Cheysdreamer]

Well this is sure interesting.... I mean I guess I've had sex in dreams, but usually these are dreams that I'm not fully in control of. My dream guy Jareth... I've had orgasms with but we never have sex.... It's very strange. I never write it down as it seems too much for public view and sure as heck don't tell my husband, he's already jealous enough of my dream guy... Oi!

[ParadoxOwl]

I never write it down as it seems too much for public view and sure as heck don't tell my husband, he's already jealous enough of my dream guy... Oi! well...I'm certainly interested...

[VagalTone]

I remember, one of my favorite sex dreams I created about 20 different amazingly beautiful girls and then had a giant orgy with them, was glorious!! But now I really want to take it to the next level of experience. It seems like you want to do it with the whole Universe

[AnotherDreamer]

It seems like you want to do it with the whole Universe Do you know how I could do that?! That sounds great Well this is sure interesting.... I mean I guess I've had sex in dreams, but usually these are dreams that I'm not fully in control of. My dream guy Jareth... I've had orgasms with but we never have sex.... It's very strange. I never write it down as it seems too much for public view and sure as heck don't tell my husband, he's already jealous enough of my dream guy... Oi! How do you have orgasms without sex? Is it spontaneous? Does he have to touch you? Is it just his magnificent presence that triggers it? That's part of what I'd like to do!

[VagalTone]

Do you know how I could do that?! I don't know how, maybe i would ask the dream some help Hey, i wanna make it with you ! or something like that...

[AnotherDreamer]

I don't know how, maybe i would ask the dream some help Hey, i wanna make it with you ! or something like that... Hahaha I love that, I'm actually gonna try that. Maybe it'll work!

[Cheysdreamer]

How do you have orgasms without sex? Is it spontaneous? Does he have to touch you? Is it just his magnificent presence that triggers it? That's part of what I'd like to do! It's usually while we kiss or mind share. More the latter than the former. He is sorta kinda perfect to me. It's hard to explain. Like real life orgasms feel good and all but it's so physical vs mental and with him it's everything, I feel it everywhere and mind enveloping. It's a really really good feeling. I'll wake up achey in my lower abs. Lol

[AnotherDreamer]

It's usually while we kiss or mind share. More the latter than the former. He is sorta kinda perfect to me. It's hard to explain. Like real life orgasms feel good and all but it's so physical vs mental and with him it's everything, I feel it everywhere and mind enveloping. It's a really really good feeling. I'll wake up achey in my lower abs. Lol That's incredible, exactly what I'm trying to do! Thank you for the great response, you give me hope It's totally okay if you don't want to, but it would be immensely appreciated if you would help me by trying to explain how it happens. I think that it could help me a lot. Do the feelings originate from him and then trigger something in you? Do you think it originates entirely from the experience of mind sharing? Are you lucid during these dreams or are they just amazing, non-lucid dreams? How long does it last for? Have you ever tried summoning Jared and having this incredible orgasm experience with full control over it? When you say, "real life orgasms feel good and all but it's so physical vs mental and with him it's everything, I feel it everywhere and mind enveloping", what exactly do you mean when you say that with him it's everything. Are you saying that it's no longer physical vs mental but they are working together? Once again, thank you sooooo much.

[Baron Samedi]

How can I make sex more vivid and awesome in dreams? stablization, time dilation, engaging the senses I am not even talking about making it so it's just like regular sex. I am talking about some tantric sex, rising up to the level of ecstatic consciousness. Maybe a lucid dream that is just one long orgasm. Can this be done? yes Has anybody ever tried it? yes i suggest meditating and chanting within a dream and in waking life. After practicing meditation in a dream, then, seek out a soulmate or dream wife or lover type of character to have serial dreams with.

[Cheysdreamer]

I can try to help. I mean I'm like really open about stuff but yet not... so I will try, even though its super hard for me to grasp explanations of it since it mostly just happens. Do the feelings originate from him and then trigger something in you? -Anytime I see him, I'm automatically ecstatic to see him. I don't know if you've ever met that one person who sets you on fire, but that would definitely be Jareth in my dreams. My husband is my safe ground, my rock, and my love of my life. Its difficult being "with" two at a time. But neither hinder my love for the other. I love them as much as I always have and differently. My husband is my husband and no one will ever replace him Jareth is the man in my dreams, protector, and many other things and has been in my dreams since I was little. He seems like he could be that dangerous fiery love that never ends well. So its hard to say what triggers it for me. I can't deny I'm in love with him in a way, and I'm sure that has a lot to do with it. He clearly loves me more than life itself. Do you think it originates entirely from the experience of mind sharing? -I do believe the mind sharing to be the biggest factor. Now don't get this confused with dream sharing because I honestly have no idea what Jareth is. Whether he is another part of me, another dreamer, or just someone I made up. But when we go to certain places the clarity and feel of the dream is completely real. I still know its a dream, or that my physical body is still asleep, but everything feels so real! I see his past, he sees mine, we know each other inside and out, yet not at all. That's what I love about him so much. Are you lucid during these dreams or are they just amazing, non-lucid dreams? -Fully lucid, I rarely remember a dream where I'm not lucid. The level of lucidity is what is different. For when the orgasm is, its the deepest lucid I know of. That perfect clarity. How long does it last for? -Are you asking the feeling of the orgasm? I suppose since time is irrelevant in dreams it would be hard to say. Could be seconds, minutes, hours. I just know it lasts long enough for me to ache. Have you ever tried summoning Jared and having this incredible orgasm experience with full control over it? -I've tried "summoning" Jareth with no avail. He comes on his own time. I can call all night long, if he's not coming, he's not coming. I don't think I've ever had full control over this. Jareth seems to lead most of whatever we are. When you say, "real life orgasms feel good and all but it's so physical vs mental and with him it's everything, I feel it everywhere and mind enveloping", what exactly do you mean when you say that with him it's everything. Are you saying that it's no longer physical vs mental but they are working together? Yes basically. Both working together. I guess I'll try to explain it further. In waking life, I have to try to get there and have an orgasm, its work, no matter how much pleasure I am getting I still have to work at it. Sometimes easier than others but I always work hard to let it happen. It feels great don't get me wrong. Connecting with my husband like that is amazing, emotionally, and physically, but I just feel I have to "make" it happen. Whereas, in dreams and with Jareth, we are fully clothed, there is no "action" so to speak. A simple hand on my cheek and forehead together to share our memories. A light surrounds me, everything in that moment is fully connected, me, Jareth, our emotions every single one you can feel is felt to its fullest and together, our minds connected on a level you can't get in waking life, spirits intertwining, everything, in that moment we are one. I always feel amazing after these. I wake up achey in my lower abs. Its just, so much its really hard to grasp. I don't write it in my journals either! That's the part I don't like sharing usually.

[AnotherDreamer]

Spoiler for :D: I can try to help. I mean I'm like really open about stuff but yet not... so I will try, even though its super hard for me to grasp explanations of it since it mostly just happens. -Anytime I see him, I'm automatically ecstatic to see him. I don't know if you've ever met that one person who sets you on fire, but that would definitely be Jareth in my dreams. My husband is my safe ground, my rock, and my love of my life. Its difficult being "with" two at a time. But neither hinder my love for the other. I love them as much as I always have and differently. My husband is my husband and no one will ever replace him Jareth is the man in my dreams, protector, and many other things and has been in my dreams since I was little. He seems like he could be that dangerous fiery love that never ends well. So its hard to say what triggers it for me. I can't deny I'm in love with him in a way, and I'm sure that has a lot to do with it. He clearly loves me more than life itself. -I do believe the mind sharing to be the biggest factor. Now don't get this confused with dream sharing because I honestly have no idea what Jareth is. Whether he is another part of me, another dreamer, or just someone I made up. But when we go to certain places the clarity and feel of the dream is completely real. I still know its a dream, or that my physical body is still asleep, but everything feels so real! I see his past, he sees mine, we know each other inside and out, yet not at all. That's what I love about him so much. -Fully lucid, I rarely remember a dream where I'm not lucid. The level of lucidity is what is different. For when the orgasm is, its the deepest lucid I know of. That perfect clarity. -Are you asking the feeling of the orgasm? I suppose since time is irrelevant in dreams it would be hard to say. Could be seconds, minutes, hours. I just know it lasts long enough for me to ache. -I've tried "summoning" Jareth with no avail. He comes on his own time. I can call all night long, if he's not coming, he's not coming. I don't think I've ever had full control over this. Jareth seems to lead most of whatever we are. Yes basically. Both working together. I guess I'll try to explain it further. In waking life, I have to try to get there and have an orgasm, its work, no matter how much pleasure I am getting I still have to work at it. Sometimes easier than others but I always work hard to let it happen. It feels great don't get me wrong. Connecting with my husband like that is amazing, emotionally, and physically, but I just feel I have to "make" it happen. Whereas, in dreams and with Jareth, we are fully clothed, there is no "action" so to speak. A simple hand on my cheek and forehead together to share our memories. A light surrounds me, everything in that moment is fully connected, me, Jareth, our emotions every single one you can feel is felt to its fullest and together, our minds connected on a level you can't get in waking life, spirits intertwining, everything, in that moment we are one. I always feel amazing after these. I wake up achey in my lower abs. Its just, so much its really hard to grasp. I don't write it in my journals either! That's the part I don't like sharing usually. That's beautiful, truly beautiful. I have a girl in my dreams too that has been in them since I was really little. I have a very similar experience with her as well in that we have a profound connection, nothing needs to be said because we already know everything the other is thinking and feeling. When I look at her I feel nothing but absolute love, joy and a sense of undifferentiated oneness for that brief moment, until the dream ends. "A simple hand on my cheek and forehead together to share our memories. A light surrounds me, everything in that moment is fully connected, me, Jareth, our emotions every single one you can feel is felt to its fullest and together, our minds connected on a level you can't get in waking life, spirits intertwining, everything, in that moment we are one." That's my favorite part, I'm really going to try to experience this with my dream girl. Thank you so much for your openness. i suggest meditating and chanting within a dream and in waking life. After practicing meditation in a dream, then, seek out a soulmate or dream wife or lover type of character to have serial dreams with. Yeaaa, I've been trying meditating in dreams and in waking life, haven't been too successful with it in dreams. For some reason when I start to feel that blissful feeling where my body starts to vibrate, shivers run up and down my spine, and my heart swells with compassion I tend to wake up . That's why I've been working on time dilation in dreams lately, hasn't worked yet but I'm still hopeful! I will definitely keep trying it. And as far as dream wife goes, I have one! And I just realized how wonderful that is thanks to you guys, I'm going to try to have more dreams with her.

[ParadoxOwl]

I can try to help. I mean I'm like really open about stuff but yet not... so I will try, even though its super hard for me to grasp explanations of it since it mostly just happens. -Anytime I see him, I'm automatically ecstatic to see him. I don't know if you've ever met that one person who sets you on fire, but that would definitely be Jareth in my dreams. My husband is my safe ground, my rock, and my love of my life. Its difficult being "with" two at a time. But neither hinder my love for the other. I love them as much as I always have and differently. My husband is my husband and no one will ever replace him Jareth is the man in my dreams, protector, and many other things and has been in my dreams since I was little. He seems like he could be that dangerous fiery love that never ends well. So its hard to say what triggers it for me. I can't deny I'm in love with him in a way, and I'm sure that has a lot to do with it. He clearly loves me more than life itself. -I do believe the mind sharing to be the biggest factor. Now don't get this confused with dream sharing because I honestly have no idea what Jareth is. Whether he is another part of me, another dreamer, or just someone I made up. But when we go to certain places the clarity and feel of the dream is completely real. I still know its a dream, or that my physical body is still asleep, but everything feels so real! I see his past, he sees mine, we know each other inside and out, yet not at all. That's what I love about him so much. -Fully lucid, I rarely remember a dream where I'm not lucid. The level of lucidity is what is different. For when the orgasm is, its the deepest lucid I know of. That perfect clarity. -Are you asking the feeling of the orgasm? I suppose since time is irrelevant in dreams it would be hard to say. Could be seconds, minutes, hours. I just know it lasts long enough for me to ache. -I've tried "summoning" Jareth with no avail. He comes on his own time. I can call all night long, if he's not coming, he's not coming. I don't think I've ever had full control over this. Jareth seems to lead most of whatever we are. Yes basically. Both working together. I guess I'll try to explain it further. In waking life, I have to try to get there and have an orgasm, its work, no matter how much pleasure I am getting I still have to work at it. Sometimes easier than others but I always work hard to let it happen. It feels great don't get me wrong. Connecting with my husband like that is amazing, emotionally, and physically, but I just feel I have to "make" it happen. Whereas, in dreams and with Jareth, we are fully clothed, there is no "action" so to speak. A simple hand on my cheek and forehead together to share our memories. A light surrounds me, everything in that moment is fully connected, me, Jareth, our emotions every single one you can feel is felt to its fullest and together, our minds connected on a level you can't get in waking life, spirits intertwining, everything, in that moment we are one. I always feel amazing after these. I wake up achey in my lower abs. Its just, so much its really hard to grasp. I don't write it in my journals either! That's the part I don't like sharing usually. Wow, this sounds so beautiful and incredible to say the least, I can't even imagine in my head irl how that must feel. My mind is blown .