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      Question Control while half-awake?

      Hello everyone,
      I'm more of a lurker, and I don't post much, but I just had to ask about this.

      One night, I fell asleep in the bed with my laptop on my lap. Then I kind of woke up, but it was very different than usual.
      I could feel my physical body, even see something (the dim light of my laptop), but I couldn't move.
      Then I realized something, except for my usual "physical awareness" there was something else, like a dream construct, filled with fog, but it was a dream. Then immediately I had the thought "Yay! Let's have a lucid dream!".
      Then the fog went away, I was in a forest area, with a large path. My dream body "spawned", and I kind of dropped on the ground from something like a meter and immediately started running (against my will). I could control the direction of my running, I could look around with my head, but I couldn't stop.
      Then I tried the classic example of dream control: I shouted "there's a bunch of ninjas!" believing strongly that ninjas would appear but nothing.
      After that, I completely lost control. I was running towards a huge tree (against my will), so I pointed my hand towards it (that WAS my will) and I wanted to make it burn, to make myself passage.
      That didn't work either, and I just woke up.
      The "dream construct" disappeared, and my physical body "gained priority" in my brain.


      I'd like to ask you if you had a similar experience, or if you know something about that kind of dreams.

      My most important question is WHY, EVEN IF MY WILL WAS POWERFUL, I COULDN'T HAVE COMPLETE CONTROL OVER MYSELF (and other stuff)?

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      Dream control takes time and practice. Were you able to dribble in between the legs and behind the back the first time you grabbed a basketball? Some people can say yes, but those are few. You needs practice.

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      I never experienced something like that, the closest thing that keep happing to me is an state half awake and half asleep where I have complete control of my dream but the only sense that works is my vision, is more like a vivid daydream.
      But I never even heard of something like that
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      That sounds like you weren't fully dreaming. Maybe it was a half-daydream or something? Like Brandon said, dream control takes practice and sooner or later you will get the hang of it!
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      The only thing I remember after that, it was that I fell asleep again and I had a complete dream (not lucid, though) in exactly the same place. Only that this time it was night (inside the dream) and it was full of other people, several objects, and even some music. It was very vivid.

      Anyway, yes, I need more practice, I used to have a good dream recall, but after that I started using the laptop late at night (until 1-2AM) and I kinda stopped practicing.
      I feel like I should start from the beginning.
      I'm also going to set up various devices to remember me of RCing and even build myself an Inception-like totem.
      I used to try WILDing also, but then I discovered I wasn't supposed to do it right after going to bed.
      Once I did an accidental DEILD but it was very unstable and partial, like if I was falling asleep inside inside my own dream...

      Is there something aside DILD tutorials I should know about DILDing or DEILDing?

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      I would recommend reading Yohi's ADA tutorial. It really helps improve your awareness therefor improving your LD rates. It is a supplementary tutorial that goes along with DILD and about anything else very well!
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      First you need to understand the stages of sleep. The first stage is nREM1. It is easy to maintain awareness in nREM1 and this is were HH or HI stuff happens. In lab tests the monitors say sleep is occuring, but when WILDers are interupted in nREM1, they often claim they were not asleep. TThey claim that based on their still being partially aware of the body and noise from their surroundings. The equipment says it is part of sleep.

      So in nREM1 a WILDer will still have some awareness of body and surroundings. It is possible to dream in nREM, though many people only get HI stuff like faces and sensatiions of spinning. The quality of a dream in nREM1 is very close to some advanced form of daydream. It is possable to have a lucid nREM1 dream, but the experience is not really the same as most LDs.

      I use this form of nREM lucid to occupy my mind and 'screw around' until I can get into about nREM3 or REM. The stage around nREM3 is not as vivid as REM, but you have lost 90+% bodily awareness and can be very intense and amazing. Of course the goal would be to quickly get into REM sleep, because the visuals are much better.
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