Thread: Is it possible for a person to control the time of their dream if lucid?

Originally Posted by littlezoe

How would you know it then that it's same as real world time? You have no way to know that either.

Originally Posted by Rubens

I read some books from LaBerge and he said something about that.

Our brain is very good in "creating memories", that's why sometimes we are in a dream and feel like we had all a life there, it's cause our brain kinda created some memories to make us believe in that.

He proved that the time in Lucid Dreams (he could prove only in the LDs) is the same of the time in real world, how ?

-He took a group of lucid dreamers, and asked them to count from 1 to 10 while awake. The average time the people took to count was 13 seconds (using a chronometer).
-He asked them to do the same in their LDs, making a pre determinated movement with the eyes before and after counting the time in the dreams, this way the people in the laboratory was able to count it in a chronometer in the same time as the LDreamer.
-The result was the same, the people took about 13 seconds to count from 1 to 10.

It proved that the perception of time is the same while awake and during Lucid Dreams.


It's possible to preventing you from awakening doing some techniques like spining your body (this one was discovered by LaBerge)
Some times it may take you to another dream or to a False Awakening, I could use this technique once, and it happened to me.
But it have a limit of course, when your REM period end, you are out of dreams for a while

Need I say more? And anyway, I never said it was. You're the one saying that it isn't. I'm saying there is no evidence to suggest it.

Originally Posted by Graves

Need I say more? And anyway, I never said it was. You're the one saying that it isn't. I'm saying there is no evidence to suggest it.

Originally Posted by Wolfwood

I knew someone would bring in that LaBerge result. He didn't prove that time dilation isn't possible. He showed that under typical circumstances, dream time correlates with real time at a 1:1 ratio. Analogically, if I saw you sat next to a piano on many occasions, but I never observed you playing it, it doesn't mean I've evidence that you can't play the piano. You may have merely not divulged your skill.

He did not give them any instruction to dilate/manipulate time, but to merely observe it. And so the normal passing of dream time correlated with the normal passing of real-world time.

Yes, say more.

Originally Posted by littlezoe

Yes, say more.

If you need a further explanation, your intellectual capabilities do not belong here. Has Wolfwood done his own experimentation and research? No? Then he is under no ground to state such things.

Originally Posted by Graves

If you need a further explanation, your intellectual capabilities do not belong here. Has Wolfwood done his own experimentation and research? No? Then he is under no ground to state such things.

Of course, i expected you to be so narrow minded to disregard everything other than your opinion. But maybe try to read Wolfwood's post 3-4 more times and you'll realize that it's a very valid point.

Originally Posted by littlezoe

Of course, i expected you to be so narrow minded to disregard everything other than your opinion. But maybe try to read Wolfwood's post 3-4 more times and you'll realize that it's a very valid point.

Originally Posted by Graves

I don't deny the existence of time dilation, but the keyword here is ''feel''. One may be able to manipulate their dream world so that 10 minutes feels like 10 hours, but in reality it's still only been 10 minutes.

It doesn't surprise me that you're female.

Originally Posted by Graves

It doesn't surprise me that you're female.

Just as i said at least twice before, you can't measure the time in a dream. Therefore what you feel becomes the dream time.


But yeah, i didn't expect more from an air humper kid.

Originally Posted by littlezoe

Just as i said at least twice before, you can't measure the time in a dream. Therefore what you feel becomes the dream time.

And like I stated in retort: If you can't measure time, your argument is invalid.

Originally Posted by Graves

If you need a further explanation, your intellectual capabilities do not belong here. Has Wolfwood done his own experimentation and research? No? Then he is under no ground to state such things.

Then what exactly are you referring to here?

Originally Posted by Graves

I don't deny the existence of time dilation, but the keyword here is ''feel''. One may be able to manipulate their dream world so that 10 minutes feels like 10 hours, but in reality it's still only been 10 minutes.

lol... this is what we're all saying. Yet you are arguing against what you're arguing for. Is that not clear?