Thread: Dolphin's DCS Workbook

No lucid dreams last night though I did get close to a WILD.

That got me thinking again how my non-lucid dreams tend to be a lot longer and more stable than my lucid dreams. The only difference I can find between my non-lucid and lucid dreams though is my way of thinking. So logically I think my lucid dreams tend to be not stable because my mindset isn't where it needs to be for a long, stable lucid dream.

Because my non-lucid dreams tend to be longer and stable than my lucid dreams, I think it would help to identify the differences between a non-lucid dream and a lucid dream. One of these differences must be resulting in a loss of stability.

In my non-lucid dreams I'm not aware that it's a dream. So I go through the dream exactly as I would in real life. Because of this, I'm more actively engaged in my surrondings and in the plot than in my lucid dreams where I'm less focused on my surrondings and more focused on a goal I want to achieve. Maybe going through a lucid dream exactly how I would in real life would result in more stabilty? Now that I think about it, my dreams tend to end shortly after I do something which I wouldn't do in real life-such as flying, which I do often.

I don't know anything about how to make a dream more stable though. That's probably where we should start.

I had a DILD last night. I had to fly away because Disneyland was about to flood. I had already had 2 nightmares before this dream and I was starting to have a third. Anyway, as I was flying I tried to feel the wind which I did. When I landed, I took a good look at my surrondings to see where I landed. I was in the parking lot of a strip mall. I saw an ice cream shop and headed over there. On the display case there was a little sign that said "Reclaim Ice Cream". I was about to ask the clerk what the sign meant but my dream abruptly ended before I could ask. I was probably lucid for 20-30 seconds. I should probably note the dream was dark and not super vivid so it probably wasn't real stable to begin with.

I had a nice, longer lucid dream this morning. It was probably about 3-4 minutes. I forgot how I got lucid but it was a DILD. Upon getting lucid I focused on the mindset of making the dream as vivid as possible. I got the dream pretty vivid and at that time it seemed nice and stable. I had some decent dream control as well. In the dream for some reason my partner and I wanted cookies so I went out in the middle of the street, stopped all traffic and searched all the cars for cookies. After searching 8-10 cars, I got a box of cookies I then teleported back home just by thinking about it. I stayed lucid through the false awakening but I forgot to stabilize. The dream had lost a lot of vividness at this point. It became real dark as well. I defended myself against a couple of evil cats with chemical spray and woke up.

Is clarifying and stabilizating a dream the same thing? If so, I think I've made a bit of progress!

Good job so far Shawn. Keep updating a lot like this. Dutch said he would be finishing his lesson soon. Sorry about the delay.

Alright, the first lesson is up. You need to update at least once a week, but after every lucid would be much better. Don't let your lucidity slip though!

If you have any questions feel free to ask them here. Start from the first task and work your way down. If it takes you too long to finish don't worry about it, just move onto the next task when you are done. If you finish them early or before we put up the next lesson, feel free to go through them again. Good luck and have fun!

Lucid #1-I woke up in my bed and instantly knew I was dreaming. The dream moved me to the corner of my room and shrunk me down to the size of a mouse. I saw a 6 foot lizard monster standing in the other corner of the room. As it started to move towards me though it morphed into a teenage boy. "Let's go bro!" the boy said. I was a bit confused why he lead me straight into a wall but I followed him anyways. We phased through the wall and went through a garage and went outside. The dream fell apart after that. It lasted about 20-30 seconds.

I don't feel I feared the "monster" itself at all. But, I just hesitated just a bit when he lead me to a wall as I was trying to think about what he was doing. I didn't feel I completed any tasks in the dream so I had to try again.

Lucid #2-Another MILD. I'm following and controlling a car in third person. As I look around I try to clarify my vision as the dream is a bit blurry. I decide I might as well try to wreck havoc in the suburbs and begin to control the car across people's front yards. I didn't feel any guilt ! Eventually I controled the car down a highway but loose control and crash it in some woods. As I'm standing in the middle of the highway I see an oppurtunity to summon a monster. I jumped up real high and gestured with my arms while saying "I want a HUUUGGE T rex". I summoned a T-Rex, probably 40-50 feet tall. I didn't feel any fear. I just took a sec to marvel at my creation. I asked "What's your name?" to the dino. "Gandalf" it said. As it said this, the T-rex transformed into a large viking type person. He said, "I saw you in your last dream." I said "Oh really! Where was that?". "In Henry", he says. "It looked just like my house!" I said. As I said this I noticed the Viking became really old and creepy looking. But, again I felt no fear. The scene quickly changed from a highway to some sort of cave or prision. I didn't take a lot of time to notice my surrondings. I just continued with the Viking. "Do you want to get some haggis!" I offer. The Viking thought that sounded really good. There was stuff coming out of his mouth. My dream ended there. It lasted probably about 3 minutes.

I felt like I completed the task of conversing with a monster without fear.

Lucid #3-After a non-lucid dream I caught a FA when I noticed it was unusually dark for this time of day. I tried to phase through the wall but couldn't. There was a cat clinging to my leg. I got away and I basically spent the entire dream banging into walls and trying to get away from the cat. After a bit I gave up and tried to fly away. The cat flew after me and I woke up. I was lucid for about a minute.

I don't feel I was neccesarily feeling a fear for the cat. I just felt the cat was keeping me from completing another one of my goals. I think instead of running away from it though I should have confronted it and see what it wanted. Once it's satisfied then I could go to my business. I think that would have been the best way to solve this type of problem that has plagued some of my lucids in the past.

Amazing work, well done Great to see you've got it figured out, definitely try to solve the cat problem if you can remember next time. Also remember that if you can't pass through the wall you can try tell yourself that the wall is not made of any physical material.

I'll number the lucids for the entire week so it's easy for me to tell which lucids I completed the various tasks.

Lucid #4
This was a DILD. I was in a spa looking up at the stars. I was trying to increase the clarity of stars and make out some of the unusual patterns. I woke up. I was lucid for 15-20 seconds.
Lucid #5
This was a MILD. I was at some sort of boardwalk type area just walking around. It took me a while to actually remember my goal of phasing through the wall. I tried to go through a wall twice but failed and woke up. I didn't recall this dream too well but I think it lasted about 3 minutes.
Lucid #6
I inadvertly slept in and had another DILD. I forgot how I got lucid though because this one was pretty long as well! I was at a dinner party. I was reveling in this awesome tasting drink that was there. I remembered my goal of phasing through the wall again. I was failing again but somehow the wall seemed a bit more flimsy this time. Frustrated as heck, I stepped way back from the wall, and ran at it as hard as I could while lowering my head. No fear! I blasted through the wall and probably 6 or 7 others. I think I ended up back in time. There was a queen arriving on a train. I don't remember much after that. I think this one lasted about 4 minutes, maybe longer.

So, I think I completed the task of "phasing" through the wall, even though I sort of crashed through it. I feel I completed it because I figure the point of the task was to show no fear, which I didn't.

I think I have to improve my ability to recall my lucids to keep up with the longer length!

Good job. Keep it up. Getting lucid a lot, which is good, since this class isn't about making you lucid, but improving the dreams in which you are lucid.

Sounds like you are doing good with the task, as dutch said in his post, keep completing it so that you can get completely used to knowing that the dream world is entirely safe. It is a good fundamental. Feel free to be as creative as possible when doing this as well.

Lucid #7-This was a MILD. I found myself in a house of some sort. I didn't take much time to notice my surrondings as I was focused on the last task of falling backwards and knowing it would be safe. I spun around first so I would have less of an idea of where I was falling. After spinning, I locked my knees and fell backwards. I had a nice soft landing. After a second of lying there I uncontrolably levitated and was flown farther into the house. For some reason I wanted to try it again even though I feel I succeeded the first time. I ran through the hallways and other rooms, trying to get to point where I had no idea where I was. I repeated the procedure of spinning, locking my knees, and falling backwards. This time though, I didn't land on the floor and instead kept falling, as if I was entering the underworld. I got just a bit nervous at this point I wasn't expecting this. I felt the dream turning into a nightmare. Once I finally landed, I ended up outside. It was pretty dark. I came across a variety of people and creatures, some of which were a little creepy but none were too scary though. I randomly flirted with an attractive girl and woke up soon after. The dream lasted about 2 minutes.

So I tried the task of falling backwards and expecting it to be safe twice. I feel I suceeded the first time but failed the second time as I was slightly fearful about what was happening. I think if I feel a slight amount of fear when I feel the dream is turning into a nightmare I should remind myself it's just a dream and that it can't hurt me. Also, I always seem to wake up soon after I hug a girl. This must be a schema of some sort I have that I will always wake up if I hug a girl. I'm not sure how to combat this.

Hug a girl? Do you mean like or ? Girls always seem to be lucidity theifs, lots of people will tell you to stay away from them.

I do not agree with this because there is absolutely nothing different from being near an imaginary girl inside your head or just being next to imaginary air. if you beleive that certain things will wake you up they will, but if you believe that things like darkness, women, excitement, or blurry are all the same as light, nothing, calmness, and clarity.

That is kind of the last part of stabilization "do you know what it means to be dreaming?" And the fear of waking. When things like that happen in normal dreams it doesn't wake you up. It should not wake you up, one of the main reasons is because you don't know you are dreaming, so you don't think that there is any chance that you will wake up. Well duh, you don't think you are asleep. fear is a very crazy emotion that makes you not think you are not in control.

Hope this helps.

Sounds like it was a long dream though, you got to try a lot of things.

Originally Posted by BrandonBoss

there is absolutely nothing different from being near an imaginary girl inside your head or just being next to imaginary air.

Hahahah couldn't have put it better myself. Lesson two should totally start with that as an opening.

I meant , though in a "come to papa" sort of way if you know what I mean . I'm not even thinking about waking up while I'm doing this; I think it's all in the subconcious.

So to keep from waking up while hugging a girl should I be thinking beforehand, "I'm dreaming, I'm in control, this isn't going to make me wake up"? Or something different?

Sounds like it might actually be a subconscious barrier rather than a conscious one. I have the same problem with darkness a lot. I think there are three options.

1) it is a barrier that you subconscious made and should be broken. Brake it consciously. Imagine slapping your sub in the face and telling it that you like women and you want to hug them. Then spend a lucid hugging every girl possible.
I had a problem with darkness and now I am convinced that there is no problem with darkness or closing my eyes, in fact it is how I teleport now instead of waking up. Any time I see nothing I just teleport.

2) it is a barrier that you made yourself (as I said before) and should be forgotten. Something like this doesn't become a problem until you think it is a problem. This would be like if it has happened less than 10 time.
I had a problem like this with flying and every time I tried to fly I "tried" so freaking hard and then one LD I didn't become very lucid and I wasn't in much control. I started flying through the air and then through ice and then the air again, upside down, backwards. I realized how I had made it hard for myself because I was trying to fix a problem that didn't exist. I proved to myself three times that I knew 100% that I could fly by driving a car into the sky and jumping out, because I didn't have to fix the problem, I had to fly like I walked, with so much certainty that I didn't even think about it. This is also freaking fun.

3) No way to fix three really. It might be your subconscious telling you that REM is over. Some people feel both bodies, some lose color, you get women thrown at you. haha.

Lucid #8-
I caught a FA. I got up from bed and walked down the hall. The dream seemed really blurry and shaky at first but after a few seconds of trying to clarify the dream, I clarfiied it and made it more stable. I noticed a nice looking african american girl at the end of the hall. My goal was to hug a girl without waking up. For some reason though, I didn't hug her. I don't remember why. A little bit later on in the dream though, the house had transformed into my cousin's house and I discovered the girl was an african american version of my cousin when I saw an african american version of my aunt. Later on in the dream I tried to summon a girl using the hand behind the back trick. I summoned a little girl, too young for my pleasure; a teenage boy, wrong sex; and a nice girl with two big dogs. Frustrated, I felt the dream was going against me and I started thinking negatively. I woke up. The dream was nice and long though, about 3 minutes.

This was one of those dreams where I try some dream control but keep failing. I try to stay positive but the constant failure puts a seed of doubt in my mind that makes it that much more difficult to control the dream.

Later in the morning though I did successfully hug a girl in a non-lucid dream. I woke up immediately! Go figure.

Is today the day we write up our analysis of the week? I don't have time to write one now as I have to leave for work but I'll write one tonight if we have to.

Passing through a wall
Analysis of week
This one took me a couple of tries but I eventually was able to go through the wall.
Dream in which task was completed
Lucid #6
Self reflection
I think this was the toughest task for me. I was only able to complete the task due to some determination and imagination. These two things must be what I need if I'm struggling with dream control.



Falling backwards and not knowing what's behind you but trusting it will be safe
Analysis of week
I tried this one twice. I was successful the first time but failed the second time.
Dream in which task was completed
Lucid #7
Self reflection
This one was pretty easy for me I think. I just have to be prepared for those moments when the dream turns against me in a nightmarish way. I first have to identify these moments and then act on it by reminding myself it's just a dream and I'm perfectly safe.



Conversing with a monster or demon
Analysis of week
I tried this one a couple times and got it the second time.
Dream in which task was completed
Lucid #2
Self reflection
This one was pretty fun! I have to remember though if something is going after me, monster or otherwise, I should ask what it wants and satisfy it before carrying on.



This week was great! I got lucid quite a bit so I had plenty of time to learn and improve. Best of all, this week, my estimated average lucid time was over 2 minutes which is about double what my average lucid time was previously. Hopefully after each week the lucids will get longer and longer! Thanks Brandonboss and Dutchraptor for your continued help!

This next week is going to be fun! With all fear out of the way, I get to play Mahem!

Lucid #1-
I had a DILD. There was a huge mob of people intruding my house. I gradually became lucid as I was trying to get rid of them. I took who I presumed was the leader aside in a corner and asked what he wanted. He started crying and said "I want to go home!". I said "Okay, what do you want from me?" he said, "I want...a secret.". Thanks DC! I woke up. I was probably lucid for about 30 seconds.

I sort of took the night off of lucid dreaming. I had lots of recall and had lots of long, vivid non-lucids. I'll persue the tasks more in earnest tonight.

Alright. I think tomorrow is technically the next week (Posted first lesson on 25th, 1st would be 7 days later). Task 3 of this week is actually one of my favorite things to do. I am a crazy lucid driver. Good luck with this week and have fun.

Lucid #1-
Another MILD. I'm in a house searching for an expensive vase. After a bit I get the thought, "Oh, there must be one in the bedroom!". I go into the bedroom and theres a vase waiting for me there. It was pink and shiny and looked expensive enough. I went to the entry way where there was some tile. I broke the vase without a hint of guilt. I woke up shortly thereafter. Not in my bed though, another bed! April fools! There was another guy in there with me. "Do you have any matchs?" He didn't have any on him. Who carries matchs everywhere they go! I go into the kitchen and look for a way to set the house on fire. While looking for one, I woke up. For real! The dream was nice and long, about 4 minutes.

So I completed the first task. As I continued the second task though I forgot that because I was dreaming I could just create fire spontaniously. Also what was I doing trying to burn down the house. It wasn't my house! Oh well.

Lucid #2-
I woke up and saw a shadow of a monkey walking around in the house. I recognized the FA. There was a teenager robbing the house. He had the tv and a skateboard in his hands, about to leave. I couldn't care less. "Do you have a lighter on you?" I asked. "Yeah, just a sec". He walked away, I assumed to put the tv in his car. I only waiting a couple seconds before waking up. The dream lasted about 30-40 seconds.

Before this dream I had analyzed the first one. I had a plan but forgot it. I was aware enough that I was dreaming though to not be upset at all about the tv being stolen.

My plan for the second task is awesome! I can't wait to carry it out!

Lucid #3
A woke up from a non-lucid dream and had a DEILD. A woke up from my bed and tried to fly to the park. My body felt heavy so it took quite a bit of time. I decided to try to get some more Dc's to see the spectacle I was about to perform. I got some little girls and pigs to come over. I was about to start my plan when I woke up. The dream lasted about a minute.

Sometimes in a lucid, like this one, my body will feel real heavy and the dream will feel unstable. I feel like I'm not able to do much that takes a bit of energy, like walking or flying. I'm not sure what do when this happens. As for the task I'm trying to complete, I might have to go with an easier plan. The one I have is a bit complicated. (I want to keep it a secret so I won't spoil the awesomeness of it if I complete it)

Interesting. I think that that feeling of your body being heavy and hard to move is just a mixture of your dream body and your real body. Remember that you aren't constrained to a body, the whole thing is in your mind. When it crosses your mind that everything is just in your mind, even your body that is moving slow is in your mind, and all these constraints are just in your head, then you should be free.

I am interested to see what you do with the task.

Lucid #4
Another DEILD- I floated out of my bed and went into the computer room. I threw my hands at the computer yelling "FIRE!" Doing this got a small smolder going. I did this repeatedly, gradually making the fire bigger and bigger. I eventually found the punching my hands at the computer made the fire big enough to actually destroy it. After I destroyed it, I completely lost lucidity after marveling at how realistic my mom looked in the dream. She didn't seem to care about the computer. I was lucid for about 3 minutes. The dream lasted about 4.

So, I completed the second task. I decided to go with the easier plan for the task so I could complete it and get it out of the way. The third task should be easy as I've done it before. After that I'll work on my more complicated plan for the second task to push myself. Hopefully I could make a bigger fire...

Lucid #5-
Another DEILD. I floated out of my bed and through this portal which was in the shape of an evil guys looking mouth. I floated through this office building type place. Eventually I made it out of the building and on to a city street. I looked for a car to phase into. All of the cars were really small though. Eventually I picked a tiny pickup truck. I drove along and tried to wreck havoc crashing into stuff. I knocked down a box of candy. This caused the bed of the pickup truck to fill with candy and make it move real slow. I then lost a bit of lucidity at this point as I went to a place where DCs where sculpting pieces of candy for evil purposes. They created spikes and who knows what. I woke up.

This was one of those dreams where all I can think of it is what the heck! I did succeed at wrecking havoc through the city but I don't think I did enough. I want to do more to complete the task so I'll try it again.

Nice job so far. You got some pretty good dream control, I guess you are in this for stabilization. Do you feel your dreams getting more stable? They seem to be getting longer. I am glad you are able to check the tasks out multiple times. This should help you immensely.