Thread: onieronautics workbook

I am delighted to see that you joined the DILD workbooks! Welcome Oneironautics! I am impressed with your already helpful attitude around the forums, especially dream interpretation it looks like!

Originally Posted by oneironautics

...I have 4 sisters and I shared dreaming has been quite unquestioned in our family, I have read lots of books about dream interpretations and i also have a big interest in human psychology and finding the root of a feeling.

It would be fun to hear some of your family's shared dreaming experiences! Your interest in finding the root of a feeling is something I share! It is something I didn't really become interested in until my interest in lucid dreaming and some of the practices that I have used in relation to LD'ing. I am fascinated how a certain feeling showing in a certain region of your body may point you in the right direction but it often requires digging further to get to the root of the feeling, as you mentioned. Example for anyone else reading this who is not sure what we are discussing: "I feel this way, but why, okay this happened but why did I react to that. Oh because of this. And why is that? etc…" The feelings and needs that led us to an action we may regret for instance, and forgiving ourselves by recognizing those feelings and needs.

My dream recall is quite good i have 2-4 long dreams a night if i write them down in a journal i have several dream volumes from over the years, i can remember a certain dream for a long time several years later i can remember the exact feeling and purpose of the dream, also some nights i might be writing in my dream book and i might remember loads of dreams i hadn't remembered before.
Somebody recently pointed out that i might be using a technique called Dream Incubation, I have a very easy time making a dream the night before and dreaming it although I'm not fully aware that i'm dreaming, I'm very excited about doing some more research into this, and will post a few examples after.
I guess i started doing that around when i was a teenager and was a bit lonely and i wanted a boyfriend so every night i would imagine i was together with my biggest crush and eventually i would start dreaming about him and i would wake up so happy. Also living in sweden the winter months are long and cold so every few nights i would imagine i was at a tropical beach and i would wake up in the morning feeling actually sunburned so nowadays i have quite a easy time just thinking about something during the day and focusing on it before i go too sleep.

You are starting with a nice advantage over the average person with your great dream recall on an almost nightly basis it sounds like plus the ability to remember dreams in detail years later. That's before even talking about your incubation abilities! All this will come in very handy for full blown lucid dreaming!

My Big dream goals right now are: opening a bar and shop in the ghost city of Varosha, interacting with customers making drinks, etc etc etc. short time goals are interacting with dream characters asking names and directions. also finding myself in Varosha and generally knowing im dreaming.

Fascinating, after seeing your mention, I just read up on Varosha and looked at pictures, including some before and after. I like this goal idea! It would make a good task of the month or year for Dreamviews. When using incubation or turning it more towards MILD for this goal I would include a strong emotion like "Where is everybody!!…wait this must be a dream…let me do a few different RC's!" Even though you might not get Varosha exactly, you may get some type of ghost town and then realize fully that you are dreaming…that this is all happening in your mind while you are asleep in bed (but I recommend to not think about being in bed too much though, keep your focus on the dreamworld).

and another big goal i have is a spiderman sort of swing/crawl throughout the city, short time goal is finding a wall and climbing or feeling it, looking at my hands and shooting stuff from them.

Yes! This is a lot of fun! It is easy to do if you really get into character. See the first link in my signature box for making sure you have a good mindset for performing any superpowers.

Awake i have a few excercises, Keeping a diary i find very helpful too keep my real life goals separate from dream world even though they are related, spending my night cleaning is generally not so fun , also i just feel the walls alot and ask myself am i dreaming when practising yoga i might imagine i'm floating or putting my foot through the floor.

That last bit is very useful I feel. In regards to cleaning, I just read an article that "Mindful dishwashing" can increase mental stimulation and reduce anxiety and stress - all great for lucid dreaming and life in general! If interested in reading more, do a search for the title of the research: Washing Dishes to Wash the Dishes: Brief Instruction in an Informal Mindfulness Practice.

My sleep patterns are very random I have three small kids who wake me alot of nights, but they are helping my dream recall, also my husband wakes up at about 5 am so i might get up a short while before going back to sleep.

Perfect for wake back to bed! Let us know if you need more info on WBTB…some below also.

Originally Posted by oneironautics

some stuff i have been working on this week,
Also i'm wondering if you could help point me in the right direction dream wise, I've been practising for a week or something now and my dreams are partially lucid i can chose what i want the night before and i've accomplished what i set out to do but whilst i'm in the dream i might not fully realize i'm dreaming, for example before i went too bed i wanted to have a pet perhaps a pegasus horse , i dreamt someone gave me golden retriever and i shouted and told everybody its mine, :-)
but that just needs more practise i guess.

What i'm wondering about is, i have alot of emotions i m drunk or jealous, now i started dreaming my kids are crying so i go too soothe them , I'm guessing this is inner awareness from La berge's book , but i'm looking for some tricks or excercises too sort of wake me, i don't usually run around crying but my kids crying happens alot :-) so what kind of trigger could i use? ..

I will copy over my ideas from before so anyone else chiming in knows what we discussed already: Since you seem to be already good with dream recall and reading Laberge, I think you are ready to try some MILD which is most helpful during a WBTB (wake back to bed) where you get up somewhere between 4.5 to 6 hours after going to bed (but only on days when you can sleep in…if you ever get to with kids). I prefer drinking water before bed to force me to get up during the night versus alarms which I don't like but some people use. WBTB does wonders but if you can't then just do it before bed or briefly during any times you wake in the middle of the night naturally. To keep the MILD simple I would say just start with visualizing one of these common dream scenarios or especially one you just had before waking or the night before or recently and imagine fully realizing that you are dreaming in that dream that you are re-visualizing. You can also mix in what you want to do next after fully realizing that you are dreaming and it may be good to take a moment in the visualization and in the lucid dream you may have soon to remind yourself that you are dreaming and you can do whatever you want without worrying about becoming embarrassed or anything. Does that make sense? Instead of replying here, why don't you go ahead and continue in the workbook, unless you prefer to continue here. Happy dreams!!

i have a goal of interacting more with dc charaters asking there name, and actually i read that task of the month and i was thinking i should ask a dc too stay . also i just watched inception and was thinking about an elavator could be a good tool..
So i dreamt t. was here for a visit and i was running around frustrated and a little jealous because my sister was talking with him, and i was just cleaning, and so as he was leaving i flung myself at him and said 'i love you' haha i think i was trying to make him stay, anyway he said he had too call his mom and got in an elevator, and out steps someone else and i said oh hi mrs ? mrs? like i couldn't remember her name and everybody around said mrs percy.

Nice, it sounds like you incubated those scenarios. Some people get these types of dreams non-lucid when attempting task of the month but I think you will be able to make them lucid with a little MILD visualization practice (mentioned above) during a WBTB (whether planned or not).

I look forward to hearing your adventures!

HI FB, Thanks for all the great feedback ! Dreamviews team is doing such a great job of helping people, a psychiatrist might taking hundreds of dollors for all these hours you guys spend pyscho analyzing dreams. Tusen Tack

Yes, Varosha is a super facinating place, I was going too suggest a challenge for October 'Dreamers Halloween Party at Varosha ghost town, bring a scary costume and see who else is there', otherwise i might have too post it somewhere anyway , hopefully by then my bar will be up and running :-) .

Actually i enjoy cleaning and doing dishes, when i was a kid i used too 'help' my mom and would play with the bubbles and warm water for hours , and i still enjoy cleaning it helps me relax like you said, I guess just these days i'm doing so much i clean one room and the kids will mess it up in 5 min haha, but your right i should be more aware and conscious of what i am doing all the time, which is quite easy listening too the kids we can just go out the door and they will find something interesting and sit down in the middle of the street and examine it .

When me and my sisters were kids and all living together, we would wake up in the morning and sit in the same bed and talk about what we dreamed about, but alot of the dreams are more about feelings, for example when i think about my sister shes not really a person but more of an colour or just she makes me feel a certain way.... I really have only one good example the rest is just a blur from childhood, this was one of the last times we were living together about teenagers something,,, IRL Me and one sister didn't really get along we were always fighting and competing, so for a few weeks we had been really fighting and annoyed with each other, so i guess we went too bed angry and I dreamt we were in a huge maze and i had a big sword and i wanted to find my sister, i can't really remember everything but i think the dream was a bit scary and i realized she wasn't the enemy and we ended up fighting together instead of each other, something like that. In the morning we were sitting together and not angry or fighting anymore, and she said she had dreamt about me as well. :-)

Have a nice weekend !