Thread: Elaol's DILD Workbook

I understand that lying meditation is good preparation for WILD. Even though, I can't meditate while lying down, since I start daydreaming and my mind wanders more than if I meditated without support. It is like I get HH 5 minutes after I lay down. Today I filled my cushion with more sponge, so it is firmer, I will see if my meditation will get any better.

I had such a wonderful dream. I had a cousin who was always bullying me in 6th grade until 9th. I never returned the favor, since I was very quiet child. Last night I had a dream where he was bullying adult me again, and I decided to return the favor, and beat the hell out of him. It was so satisfying dream, and even though it is not reality, I have feeling of such satisfaction, like it really happened. I am very happy right now

I didn't do GRC today, like you guys have said, I must enjoy the practice and I don't enjoy GRC any more, for some reason. I now know even more about it and it is even easier to do it than when I started, but for some reason I just "forget" to do it. It might be some unconscious resistance, or something else, I don't know. I will continue with GRC until day 60, and then I will decide what next.

Now, I'm going to take a shower and then I will try to meditate and see how my back feels

I really love sharing my dreaming experiences here, this is what motivates me the most

@FM - Post #149 is brilliant! You are beginning to sound like Sageous or something!

@Elaol - Congratulations on your lucid the other night! I would call it a lucid where your lucidity waned and then that bit of nightmare scenario unfolded. I don't think you will see her again. She meant no harm though and perhaps was just a part of you subconscious trying to open up your view a little bit by unzipping your hoodie, wanting to show you something.

And you overcoming the bully - awesome! I had a similar dream and I think I have a good idea how it felt for you. Such dreams remind us that lucid dreams aren't the only dreams we can have a lot of fun in!

Originally Posted by Elaol

I really love sharing my dreaming experiences here, this is what motivates me the most

And we enjoy having you hear and reading about your experiences and progress!

Originally Posted by fogelbise

@FM - Post #149 is brilliant! You are beginning to sound like Sageous or something!

Does that mean I can dream like him now? Please? Thanks!

Thanks guys for answers They really mean a lot to me

Today I had one more interesting dream. I dream again about secret bathroom (idk if I posted about it before). To give short intro: I dream often about bathroom (usually in my university). You push one tile or something like that and secret door opens. There are very interesting things I can find in there. My dream from couple nights ago about doors in the bathroom and spiders and protective fields happened in that bathroom

In this dream, I was again in that bathroom. I was female with lavender skin. Two other beings like me came in the bathroom, but they didn't see me. One of them had one white wing and perhaps the other was black, I am not sure. They took small cup of purple powder and blown it on the wall. It created portal to the universe. It wasn't meant for me, but I entered it. I was teleported like warp speed in Star Wars/Trek and I found myself near the bathroom door. I had one ring with black fang on it. It contains all the energy of those two beings. I took it and I don't remember the rest.

I really enjoyed this dream

Today I was on education whole day, so I didn't do much of induction techniques.

Now I am going to meditate and if I wake up early next morning, I will try WILD, it's been a while

^Very interesting dreams with the portal and alien beings! Interesting bathrooms, perhaps bathrooms are a great place for you to RC and reflect IWL.

Originally Posted by FryingMan

Does that mean I can dream like him now? Please? Thanks!

You are heading in that direction for sure!

Wow guys, I can't believe how awesome my non-lucids are. Last night I had 2 dreams (haven't written them yet, had education, so didn't have time, it's 10PM, I'm feeling awful). Anyway in one of them I was part of the X-Men team. I was Prism (not original X-Men Prism, but Nightcrawler-like being, I was creating prisms which teleport people or myself). We were fighting another team and it was so awesome to teleport in that way. It was really movie like, I felt awesome after that dream

I started reading Dream Yoga, it is really cool, I like everything I have read so far. Next week will be very, very busy, since I have 20 classes per day. I will use FM's advice and before each class I will become aware for short time and reflect on my current state.

I have questions for you guys: every time I become lucid, I never feel that rush or excitement. I just say "Oh, it's a dream, lets stabilize..." I am very calm and cold. Why do you think that is?

Today I did short GRC and now I will meditate.

See you soon ;D

Yes, dreams are so amazing, all of them, including the non-lucid ones! In many ways I think non-lucid dreams are superior to lucid dreams, . I love being lucid, but I love the wildness and unpredictability and craziness of non-lucid dreams. And non-lucids come for "free," every single night!

Which Dream Yoga book are you reading?

I think remaining calm when you get lucid is a good thing, that helps prolonging the dream. Many people just rush off running right away and lose control and have to work at being calm, so I'd take that as a positive!

@fogelbise, I now see I forgot to comment on your reply. I was also thinking bathrooms are good RC time for me. Also malls are. I actually tried to do RC every time I was in a mall (which is every day, since my gym is in the mall). But that never transferred to my dreams, so I figured that if I did the same thing with bathrooms it wouldn't have any effect. I might try it again now

@FM I am reading Dream Yoga by Andrew H., just as you recommended I didn't get to the techniques yet, but the benefits of DY are really amazing. I think I will pass on sleep yoga and bardo yoga, it isn't appealing to me, but dream yoga sounds really good And since those techniques are perfected for 2500 years, they must be effective

Originally Posted by Elaol

@fogelbise, I now see I forgot to comment on your reply. I was also thinking bathrooms are good RC time for me. Also malls are. I actually tried to do RC every time I was in a mall (which is every day, since my gym is in the mall). But that never transferred to my dreams, so I figured that if I did the same thing with bathrooms it wouldn't have any effect. I might try it again now

This is an issue with specific triggers. I myself have yet to get lucid once in a sports dream, despite having them fairly frequently, and even doing quite a bit of visualization of getting lucid in them. I tend to think targeted location or action lucidity is weaker than general self-awareness, just because our self-awareness is always with us, while a specific action or place in a dream may or may not occur. That may not be entirely correct (especially if one works *really hard* on a specific trigger, which could in effect incubate it happening), but I tend to think more along these lines, now. It is better just to stop, and have a reflection moment, wherever you are, not dependent on any other factor other than you feel "it's time now to check" [if you're dreaming].

@FM I am reading Dream Yoga by Andrew H., just as you recommended I didn't get to the techniques yet, but the benefits of DY are really amazing. I think I will pass on sleep yoga and bardo yoga, it isn't appealing to me, but dream yoga sounds really good And since those techniques are perfected for 2500 years, they must be effective

Great, I love that book, I need to finish my first pass through it and go through it again. His suggestions for activities are sprinkled throughout the book, so you need to pay attention (hah!) to find them all. Yes I concentrate on dream yoga myself, it is a prerequisite for the others anyway and the natural order of progression: awareness in the moment of experience, awareness in the moment of reaction to experience, awareness in dreams. << These by the way are an excellent way to gauge one's progress. I myself must judge that I'm still very weak in the first, and almost non-existent in the second. So there's a long way to go. Just knowing about these helps you start to work on them. Every day, make a goal to stay aware in the moment of experience and in reaction to experience, as much as you can.

Thanks FM for the response. I can't wait to get into the practice of dream yoga.

I entered the spellbee2's contest. I think it is great and that it will inspire me to work harder on my lucid dreaming journey.

Today a bit of GRC and now I am going to meditate

Yes, the bathroom idea is mainly to give you more opportunities to remind yourself to RC, to remind yourself that any moment could be a dream. The important thing is that it is never done with a dismissive attitude like "of course I'm not dreaming but I will RC because I'm supposed to" but to rather really stop and contemplate (reflect) on the moment and how "maybe I could be dreaming right this moment…how many dreams do I take for reality only to wake and realize it was all a dream."

Have you ever had a lucid dream where once you realized you were dreaming you were surprised at how real and waking-life-like it felt up until that realization? If you have had one, those are great dreams to recall when you are doing RC's. You tend to do the RC with much more reflection and wonder.

" I am very calm and cold. Why do you think that is? Just a guess, but i read all over the internet 'Get Lucid, Stay Cool' staying cool

@fogelbise I never had such dreams. My lucids were fairly realistic, but nothing with clarity of waking life. I hope I will have those soon

Today I did plenty of GRC (in relation to previous days). I will try other postures for meditation, since my back is killing me (not necessarily from meditation, I haven't been moving a lot these days).

That is about it for today, I hope I will have lucid tonight, I miss them

Originally Posted by Elaol

@fogelbise I never had such dreams. My lucids were fairly realistic, but nothing with clarity of waking life. I hope I will have those soon

Keep it up and you will! How about any non-lucid dreams where you wake up from them and you felt like you were just there in another world that felt just as real as this one? Recalling moments like that can also make your RC's more effective.

Yeah, fogelbise, I actually had one of those. The things that happened couldn't happen in real life, but it was highly realistic.

Today I did a bit of GRC, and now I am going to meditate

I really hate that I don't have anything to report these days, but since I am working 10 hours a day it is really hard to keep lucid dreaming in mind. This will last for another week so I think I will be OK.

What do you guys think, is meditation alone enough to keep my current progress until I can actively do lucid dreaming techniques?

Today I did yoga and mediated

P.s. two days ago I had a dream that I think was lucid. I woke up with that idea but I couldn't remember anything from that dream except that I had lucid dream. What do you think about this?

Long working days can be tough on awareness. Keep an eye out for little chances to work back in some awareness during work: just take a moment to "see yourself" there at your work, bringing in a sense of self-awareness, perhaps throwing in a quick RC. Certainly when you take breaks: get a drink of water, go to the bathroom, stretch your legs, that's a good time to remember dreaming, do an RC, have a nice reflection/intention moment. Do what you can. Good for yoga and meditation!

OK, I'm starting over, continuing my GRC journey. I realize that it was working, for whatever reason, I guess because it was building my awareness. Anyway, today I payed attention to the gravity again, and I am a bit wobbly. I will get back to shape in a few days. From day 60 I am strating implementing dream yoga techniques

Also, I am so psyched up about the competition, so I really want to LD now Btw FM, we are both in the same team

I can't wait until I have my next LD

Also, I want to share an interesting dream I had last night. This is the most important part:

I am looking at the sky and it has beautiful gradient from light to indigo blue. The stars are visible. I realize I was looking at the sky last night, but I didn't write it down, so it is different now than yesterday. I am writing it now, but the stars have changed.

When I was writing it at 5PM, I realized it must be about my dreams. I don't write them and they lose some details, and when I write them at night, they are changed. I am really shocked by how straightforward this message is.....

Originally Posted by Elaol

OK, I'm starting over, continuing my GRC journey. I realize that it was working, for whatever reason, I guess because it was building my awareness. Anyway, today I payed attention to the gravity again, and I am a bit wobbly. I will get back to shape in a few days. From day 60 I am strating implementing dream yoga techniques

Also, I am so psyched up about the competition, so I really want to LD now Btw FM, we are both in the same team

Do what you like and what works for you! Woohoo teammates!

Originally Posted by Elaol

P.s. two days ago I had a dream that I think was lucid. I woke up with that idea but I couldn't remember anything from that dream except that I had lucid dream. What do you think about this?

Really reach deep for those kind of dream memories. Most times I wake with only the thought that I was lucid at some point during the night I am able to recover the memory of the lucid dream. Because of those experiences I suspect many memories like this are due to becoming lucid so I really try hard to remember because if you can't remember the details then you can't be sure if you were really lucid.

Yeah, fogelbise, I will try it next time. This memory has already faded away :/

Today I was really into GRC, I am getting better and better. I keep reading dream yoga

My dreams are really interesting these days, I love my non-lucids. I can't wait to have a lucid dream, so I can boost my score at the competition

So I have had another LD. Here is the link.

I have been doing red dot in the throat thingy, from the dream yoga book. I did it after every natural awakening. I had an awesome dream recall this morning, and also one lucid, not very high level, but still lucid. My dreams very also very interesting. Could it be the red dot in the throat thingy (I forgot the name)? FM, I hope you know what am I talking about

Also, I must try the technique from the dream

Also, I did GRC yesterday, and meditated, so that could also contribute to the LD and recall

Great to hear it! Yes I know the red dot in the throat thingy . There are many different "... in the throat" things. Looks like it, or your increased intent and attention, or the combination thereof, made a difference. Also, it is the sum-total of all the work you've done so far.

I see I have missed two day, I feel awful.

Day 58

I was pleased with my GRC practice. I also meditated for 20 minutes.

Day 59

I had horrible day at work, so my practice suffered as well. I didn't do much GRC, but I meditated.

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I see my posts are becoming boring. I guess I have learnt all I could for my current level. When I have more lucids it will become more interesting.