Ctharlhie's Oneirinomicon

[Ctharlhie]

Hey, this is my workbook. For the whole of 2014 I was on something of an extended hiatus and, in lieu of a 2015 "resolucid" thread, this workbook will serve to track my progress towards attaining regular lucidity.

[FryingMan]

Welcome, Ctharlhie! Using a workbook is a great way to remain true to your goals. If you have any questions for us, let us know! Just a quick couple of queries: how's your dream recall these days? What does a typical day and night look like in your practice? The more detail you give the more opportunities for fine tuning we may be able to suggest. Looking forward to following your progress!

[fogelbise]

Hey Ctharlhie! I feel like we can learn at least as much from you as well. Sometimes while discussing strategies and viewpoints we can all come to some kind of breakthrough so I would encourage plenty of open discussion while also logging your progress.

[FryingMan]

Hey Ctharlhie! I feel like we can learn at least as much from you as well. Sometimes while discussing strategies and viewpoints we can all come to some kind of breakthrough so I would encourage plenty of open discussion while also logging your progress. Absolutely!

[Ctharlhie]

Welcome, Ctharlhie! Using a workbook is a great way to remain true to your goals. If you have any questions for us, let us know! Just a quick couple of queries: how's your dream recall these days? What does a typical day and night look like in your practice? The more detail you give the more opportunities for fine tuning we may be able to suggest. Looking forward to following your progress! It's varying, since I got back to practising at the beginning of the month it's varied from no recall at all to a solid dream a night and up to 8 fragments. This week I started recognising my natural awakenings, though, which I'm pretty excited about. Here's my current plan/dream journal format: Spoiler for Plan/DJ Format: Bedtime: Rise time: Sleep quality: Daytime practice: - Mindfulness meditation [] - 5+ SAT sessions (w/ Recall stretching and "find my hands" MILD) [] - "Day-SSILD" (ADA "cycles") [] Nighttime practice: - Mahamudra metta meditation [] - Waking life recall w/ mild [] - Read DJ, relive old dreams w/ MILD [] - "I want to wake in 2-4hrs and recall my dreams" natural awakening priming [] - Middle of the night meditation [] - SSILD [] / MILD [] / WILD [] Supplements: WBTB: Natural Awakenings: Recall: - Vividness /5 - Clarity /5 - Dreamsigns: Goals: - Induce an LD [] - Catch 2 natural awakenings nightly [] - Recall at least 1 epic nightly [] - Become aware of waking from a dream [] Tasks: - control the view of the dream - basic and advanced TotM - Sensei's competition Notes: Hey Ctharlhie! I feel like we can learn at least as much from you as well. Sometimes while discussing strategies and viewpoints we can all come to some kind of breakthrough so I would encourage plenty of open discussion while also logging your progress. I hope so! Ideally this workbook will serve as a kind of roadmap for the future, should I ever find myself on another extended break, I should be able to pick straight up from where I left off (I made the mistake of not recording anything in my early days, so I had no idea what worked when I hit a dry spell) as well as generating some interesting discussion in its own right

[fogelbise]

Wow. I love the detail of your plan/DJ format! You are so much better organized than I am. There were a number of things in there that piqued my interest and they all sound like very good practices. Everyone is different of course, but personally I wouldn't be able to sustain doing all of that daily but I would probably end up picking a few core daily practices and do the others on some kind of schedule less often than daily. That may be how you intended to do it as well...I just wanted to caution not wearing yourself out since I feel that sustained practices are better than stopping practices for long periods. I overdid it during the last competition.

[Ctharlhie]

Wow. I love the detail of your plan/DJ format! You are so much better organized than I am. There were a number of things in there that piqued my interest and they all sound like very good practices. Everyone is different of course, but personally I wouldn't be able to sustain doing all of that daily but I would probably end up picking a few core daily practices and do the others on some kind of schedule less often than daily. That may be how you intended to do it as well...I just wanted to caution not wearing yourself out since I feel that sustained practices are better than stopping practices for long periods. I overdid it during the last competition. Thanks, the credit goes to Sensei, really - it's just a variation of his "how to DJ" tute that I've tailored to what I want to record. It's not actually much daily practice, really. The meditation is as much for my wellbeing as for LDing and has been integrated into my daily life for pretty much a year anyway. As for the SAT, it probably takes 10-20 minutes out of my day (I had a VERY interesting/vivid dream related to this last night that I'm going to share here soon) I've started experimenting with a vibrating alarm at irregular intervals that is working very well. The 'Day-SSILD' is basically a variation of ADA wherein you cycle through objects of awareness much in the way you do in SSILD, and I do this in a relaxed manner as much as I can remember to in between the SAT sessions. In fact, mindfulness seems to help in not thinking about LD all day and burning out. Completely agree that sustained practices trump short term intense activity. I may scale back based on my experience in the rest of the month.

[Sensei]

Thanks. I like what you have done with it, very specific to you, which is what everything needs to be. You need to take all things in LDing and morph it to yourself.

[Ctharlhie]

These are the dream logs for January so far. These are not the full journal entries, the aim here is to basically show the results of varying daytime and nighttime practices. I will only share eventful nights and dream content will only be included if it is of particular interest - Spoiler for 04/01/15 - 2015 LD #1 (217) - Superman Flying Over Town + 4 frags, 1 Natural Awakening: Bedtime: 11pm Rise time: 8:30 Daytime techniques: 25mins vipasanna, ~5 RIT sessions, lucid living Nighttime techniques: Supplements: none WBTB: 2:30, 4:30, 5:45 Natural Awakenings: 6:45 Recall - LD: 1 semi lucid - NLD: 4 fragments Spoiler for 07/01/15 - 1 Semi-lucid + 1 Fragment, 1 Natural Awakening: Bedtime: 11:30 Rise time: 6:30 Daytime techniques: ~3 RIT sessions, dream yoga/ADA/lucid living/mindfulness, 10mins meditation Nighttime techniques: pisswater, "I know when I am waking from a dream" mantra, SSILD, WILD Supplements: none WBTB: 6:30-8 Natural Awakenings: 1, no wbtb, no recall Nap: 8-10 WILD attempt: got to the first waves of sleep, but decided I was gonna run out of time to recoup some sleep before work and gave up and went to sleep Recall -LDs: 1 -NLDs: 1 fragment Spoiler for 08/01/15 - 1 Epic resulting in lucidity + 1 dream and 3 fragments, 1 natural/micro awakening (MA): Bedtime: 12 Rise time: 7, 10:21 Daytime techniques: 20mins meditation, 4 RIT sessions, 2hrs "Day SSILD"/ADA cycles mindfulness/lucid living Nighttime techniques: binaural beats MILD/MA induction, pisswater (<500 ml), "I know when I am waking from a dream" mantra "I am mindful in my dreams mantra", SSILD Supplements: multivit WBTB: 7-8:30 Natural Awakeings: 1, 05:54 Recall -LDs: 1 -NLDs: 4 Spoiler for 19/01/15 - 3 Natural Awakenings, 7 fragments: Bedtime: 12 Rise time: 9:30 Daytime techniques: none Nighttime techniques: "I will wake in 4/2 hrs and recall my dreams", "wake up in 4 hrs" MA priming Supplements: a sherry, coffee in the morning WBTB: no Natural Awakenings: 3! Recall -LDs: 0 -NLDs: 7 Spoiler for 20/01/15 - 2 Natural Awakenings, 9 fragments: Bedtime: 12 Rise time: 7, 10:30 Daytime techniques: 8mins zazen Nighttime techniques: Natural awakening priming ("I want to wake in 2hrs and remember my dreams", "wake up in 2hrs"), waking recall and "strengthening intention" Tibetan yogas of dream and sleep"/mild, dream yoga Supplements: multivit, 3g fish oil WBTB: 7-8:30 Natural Awakenings: 2 Recall -LDs: 0 -NLDs: 9 Spoiler for 21/01/15 - 1 Semi-lucid, 1 NLD: 21/01/15 - 1 Semi-lucid, 1 NLD Bedtime: 1 Rise time: 9 Daytime techniques: - Mindfulness meditation [x] - Mahamudra metta meditation [x] - 5+ RIT sessions (w/ RS and "find my hands" MILD) [x] - 30+ mins "Day-SSILD" [] Nighttime techniques: Nighttime practice: - Waking life recall w/ mild [x] - Read DJ, relive old dreams w/ MILD [x] - "I want to wake in 2-4hrs and recall my dreams" natural awakening priming [x] - Dream yoga [x] - Hands MILD [x] - Middle of the night meditation [] - SSILD [x] - WILD [] Supplements: none WBTB: 8-8:15 MAs: 0 Recall -LDs: 1 -NLDs: 1 Spoiler for 22-23/01/15 - most vivid prelucid ever, 6 dreams: (Prelucid) Where: my room - Who: no one - What: My RDAT alarm goes off unexpectedly. I look around. The scene is so lifelike that I can barely entertain the idea it might be a dream, but I decide to check anyway. Rather than raise my awareness, I jump and land entirely realistically, worrying about the noise reaching downstairs. I go on with the dream non-lucidly. Although the scene was dark it was rendered in fine details right down to styrofoam beads from my beanbag on the floor, which I picked up and felt. - Vividness 5/5 - Clarity 4/5 Bedtime: 11 Rise time: 6:45 Sleep quality: 72% 23rd Jan sleep graph.jpg Daytime practice: - Mindfulness meditation (10 mins) + 15mins zhine [x] - (~10) RIT sessions (w/ RS and "find my hands" MILD) [x] - 30+ mins "Day-SSILD" [x] Nighttime practice: - Mahamudra metta meditation (5mins) [x] - Waking life recall w/ mild [x] - Read DJ, relive old dreams w/ MILD [x] - "I want to wake in 2-4hrs and recall my dreams" natural awakening priming [x] - Middle of the night meditation [] - SSILD [x] / MILD [x] / WILD [] Supplements: multivit WBTB: 4:30, 15mins Natural Awakenings: 1 (4:30) Recall -LDs: 0 -NLDs: 6 Spoiler for 23-24/01/15 - (Epic) Deja vu in a dream: Where: exeter - who: Harry, ciaran, other exeter friends - what: staying round ciarans, go to cinema. Going out realise I wore the exact sameclothes at the last social outing (my fatface christmas jumper, detail of me struggling to zip up my superdry coat). At a restaurant, I think I recognise Justin from study abroad, I yell "justin!" and hug the guy but it's not him. He is embarrassed but says he is pleased to meet me all the same. Harry is telling people about this racist long form modernist/futurist poem, I read it and the text is perfectly legible in the dream (some of the nonsense syllables are "ching-chong" style stereotypes about chinese language, there are hypertextual features such as some words being in bold or coloured red, which in the dream I assume is to denote stressed syllables). Someone around the table abruptly says "I'm bored of this" (slight scene change) we are now at the cinema and I'm going out to get some cash out. I realise outside that I already have two twenties and while I am putting my wallet away I get deja vu, almost feeling like I have an intuition of what is going to happen next. I am struggling with my hands full to zip my wallet back up, and this seems to have triggered the feeling. Back in the cinema I buy a ticket realistically. A girl I interpret as having just met buys me a drink (a "Marden" which looked spmething like a Brooklyn lager). While trying to buy popcorn I get very confused whether I am holding British or Australian currency, the coins look australian and I ask Harry if they look right. Before being let into the auditorium we wait in a kind of lounge where there is being screened a trailer for a sexually violent movie in which women are stripped and hosed down and thrown into a basement together. Some of my friends are clearly offended, some looking away. Ciaran and Harry start taking the piss of out the director (who is interviewed in the trailer) and criticising the politics of the movie. - Vividness 5/5 - Clarity 4/5 - Dreamsigns: deja vu, australian currency Bedtime: 12:30 Rise time: 9:45 Sleep quality: 78% 24th Jan sleep graph.jpg Daytime practice: - Mindfulness meditation (10 mins) [x] - 5+ RIT sessions (w/ RS and "find my hands" MILD) [x] Nighttime practice: - Mahamudra metta meditation (10 mins) [x] - Waking life recall w/ mild [x] - Read DJ, relive old dreams w/ MILD [x] - "I want to wake in 2-4hrs and recall my dreams" natural awakening priming [x] - Middle of the night meditation [] - SSILD [x] / MILD [x] / WILD [] Supplements: WBTB: no Natural Awakenings: 2 (1 middle of the night unrecorded + 8am) Recall -LDs: 0 -NLDs: 2

[Ctharlhie]

26-27/01/15 Bedtime: 11 Rise time: 8 Sleep quality: 62% Supplements: multivit, peppermint tea WBTB: 3:15-4 Natural Awakenings: 2, 3:15 and unrecorded Nap: 9:30-11:30 Daytime practice: - Mindfulness meditation (5mins) [x] - 5+ RDAT [] Nighttime practice: - Mahamudra metta meditation 10mins [x] - Waking life recall [x] - Read DJ, relive old dreams [x] - MILD goal incubation "I want to remember I am dreaming, look at my hands and carry out my task of..." [x] - "I wake after every dream and remember the dream", "wake up, remember" natural awakening priming [x] - Yoga Nidra [x] - Middle of the night meditation (5 mins, 8:30) [x] - MILD "The next scene is a dream", "Here and now, dream, hands"[x] - WILD attempt [] - SSILD [x] Recall: LDs: 0 NLDs: 3, 1 full dream, 2 fragments Goals: - Catch 2 natural awakenings nightly [x] - Recall at least 1 epic nightly [] - Become aware of waking from a dream [] - Induce an LD [] Task: - control the view of the dream - basic and advanced TotM - Sensei's competition -- Go to the RR Cafe from Twin Peaks

[Ctharlhie]

So I think you were right, Fogelbise, and I'm doing *too much*, considering I've had many successful nights with this as my practice: Bedtime: 2:45am-3:00am Risetime: 12pm WBTB: Awakenings from alarm at 8 and 10 Daytime technique: 10 mins Shamatha/Shikantaza meditation (not really sure what it is I do now), 2 RCs (laziness) Supplements: None Recall: LDs: 2 09/06/13 Bedtime: 02:45 Risetime: 13:00 WBTB: 6am Daytime technique: 10mins meditation, 5 RCs/SAT Nighttime tech: WBTB, SSILD Supplements: none Recall LDs: 2 Task(s): 2 LDs go to work naked, talk nonsense to a DC

[Ctharlhie]

Having said that. Really gone all out today. Vibrate alarm every 90 minutes for SAT, ADA, multiple seated mediation sessions. Gonna rack up some points in Sensei's competition tonight methinks. I'm gonna start trying for WILDs on nights when I don't have work in the morning. Even though this is a DILD class (Sageous' class isn't based on workbooks), here's my tentative self-made technique: WIP WILD Tech - Seeing through closed eyelids Set up natural awakenings 3 Dream Seed Recall Piss if needed MILD Natural awakening priming again Lie down on back and do flex-freeze relaxation Then focus on the feeling of sinking into mattress Judge it by ear when to start mantra "Wake up, Remember" (for further natural awakenings) "Here and now, dream, hands" (for possible MILD if WILD fails) "Emptiness" (for maximum zen) When the first sleep wave comes roll onto side Start mantra now if not already Start seed visualising bedroom Maintain until transition I've always had seeing through my closed lids HH, and even transitioned from it on one ocassion, and I feel like this approach is best suited to me based on my experience from previous attempts.

[Ctharlhie]

Bedtime: 11:30 Rise time: 9:30 Sleep quality: 76% 28-29 Jan.jpg Supplements: camomile tea, multivit WBTB: 5:30-6 Natural Awakenings: 3:15, 5:30, 8:00 Recall - - LDs: 1 - NLDs: 3 Tasks: Look at my hands, practice self awareness, teleport to RR Diner, eat a slice of cherry pie, talk to Dale Cooper Daytime practice: - Mindfulness meditation (10 mins) [x] - 5+ SAT/RDAT [x] Nighttime practice: - Read dream journal/waking life recall [x] - MicroWBTB priming, 500-1000ml of water + "I wake up after every dream and remember my dreams - wake up remember" mantras [x] LD Entry: http://www.dreamviews.com/blogs/ctha...tempt-1-63892/

[Ctharlhie]

Having read this great post by Memm: http://www.dreamviews.com/attaining-...ml#post2145285 I decided to reduce my practice to the core fundamentals: meditation, SAT, microWBTB and recall: with the attitude that I wouldn't even think about trying to induce lucidity I had my 2 micros and dream recall work for the night done; and that I had already done everything I could to make myself lucid, now all I had to do was sleep. I was rewarded with breaking my dry spell and the highest level lucid of the year so far, fully remembering my goals. I have also realised that my waking life recall practice before bedtime is getting so vivid and detailed that I'll need to start writing stuff down. My dream recall and day memory is starting to get crazy good, and all of a sudden I'm vividly recalling life events from years ago while I'm meditating.

[Ctharlhie]

Bedtime: 11:40 Rise time: 8:27 Sleep quality: 80% Supplements: half a 330ml beer, peppermint tea, liquorice allsorts, multivit WBTB: no Natural Awakenings: 0:38, ~1:50, ~4:40, ~6:30 Recall - - LDs: 1 - NLDs: 1 Daytime practice: - Mindfulness meditation (15mins) [x] - 5+ SAT/RDAT [] Nighttime practice: - Read dream journal/waking life recall [] - MicroWBTB priming, 500-1000ml of water + "I wake up *throughout the night* and remember my dreams - wake up remember" mantras [x] ***** I tried out a mantra for microWBTB priming that I remembered was effective a while back and it triggered hella natural awakenings! I drank nearly a pint of water before sleep and then woke an hour later to piss it away! Unfortunately a mixture of exhaustion from work and weird dietry choices seemed to prevent me from capitalising on the awakenings for recall.

[Ctharlhie]

http://www.dreamviews.com/blogs/ctha...-mirror-64033/ Bedtime: 00:23 Rise time: 6:30 Nap: 7:30- 9:30 Sleep quality: 68% Supplements: multivit WBTB: 6:30-7:30 Natural Awakenings: 0 Recall - - LDs: 1 - NLDs: 0 Daytime practice: - Mindfulness meditation (stage 1 samadhi, 10mins) [x] - 5+ SAT/RDAT [x] Nighttime practice: - Mahamudra metta meditation [x] - Read dream journal/waking life recall [x] - MicroWBTB priming, 500-1000ml of water + "I wake up throughout the night and remember my dreams - wake up remember" mantras [x] Commentary: After a string of stressful days at work my recall has hit rock bottom again and is pretty much as it was at the beginning of the month. What's worse, my efforts at inducing microWBTB seem to be failing, I'll sleep through whatever urination urge, no matter how much water I drink. On the plus side, the LDs are coming easily now. This one resulted like most of the others so far this year, returning to bed after walking the dog early in the morning I attempted WILD but ended up getting tired of not falling asleep on my back. I rolled over and fell asleep fairly quickly. I think I need a stronger anchor that requires less effort (if that makes sense). Simply imagining my mantra being spoken to me kept me too awake for too long, and was difficult to maintain when I was starting to properly fall asleep.

[FryingMan]

I find that both noticing middle of the night wakings and high levels of recall depend on being well-rested, stress-free, and free of any important early morning appointments. Otherwise the mind is just pulled away immediately to waking life troubles/to-do lists. Recall can come back, suddenly. I had a few low recall nights, followed this morning by a late morning back to sleep after a broken WBTB culminating in a lot of non-lucid dream scenes a quick LD at the end. Just keep trying for recall and don't stress if it doesn't come. When you have the opportunity, spend more time on recall. When you can't, just record what you have and start getting excited about the upcoming night.

[Ctharlhie]

03/04/2015 - no recall, WILD attempt Bedtime: 00:24 Rise time: 06:58 Sleep quality: 73% Supplements: 3 espressos during the day WBTB: 7-8:30 Natural Awakenings: 6:00 WILD attempt: yes Recall - - LDs: 0 - NLDs: 0 Tasks: connect with waking memory Daytime practice: - Zhine meditation (10 minutes sustained attention of the present moment) [x] - 5+ SAT/RDAT ("catch the dream"/changing the karmic traces practice) [x] - Lucid living Nighttime practice: - Mahamudra metta meditation [x] - Strengthening intention [x] - MicroWBTB priming, 500-1000ml of water + "I wake up throughout the night and remember my dreams - wake up remember" mantras [] - Dream yoga [] - Cultivating memory [] Waking Recall: -Listening to Sauna with Jack -The superb bagel lunch I ate -Teaching Jack the method of loci -The transcendental dog walk listening to Sauna and looking at the full moon -Listening to Sauna with Dad WILD Attempt: 8:30 -I lie down and flex freeze, try a few reverse blinks but stop pretty quickly due to lack of effectiveness. -I started carrying out a simplified version of the yoga nidra exercise on youtube. This swiftly led to lots of sleep waves -timing my mantra or counting with the breath, or focusing on breath seemed to prevent falling asleep -paying passive attention with a free floating state of mind to my body or looking towards my brow seemed to strike the right balance with falling asleep - visualising the moon at my brow -once or twice actually saw the moon - HH -or through my closed lids -couldn't strike the right balance between mantra and observing breath, not controlling it -emptiness mantra doesn't seem to be working -a lot of tossing and turning, couldn't fall asleep on back? -staying awake too long? -roll onto side after first sleep wave and start chakra visualisation, then stay like that?

[Ctharlhie]

@FryingMan: I burnt out and I'll try not to force it from now on. I was reading the Tibetan Yogas just now and it was saying in one bit that if you fall asleep with your presence and intent on a red Ah syllable and lotus or dot at your throat you will be present when waking from dreams. But here's my log for today! 04-05/01/15 Bedtime: 23:59 Rise time: 06:57 Sleep quality: 73% Supplements: peppermint tea WBTB: no muWBTB: no Natural Awakenings: WILD Attempt: yes Recall - - LDs: 0 - NLDs: 0 Tasks: connect to waking life memory Daytime practice: - Mindfulness meditation (10mins sustained attention on the present moment) [x] - 5+ SAT/RDAT (changing the karmic traces/removing grasping and aversion) [x] Nighttime practice: - Mahamudra metta meditation [x] - Strengthening intention [x] - MicroWBTB priming, 500-1000ml of water + "I wake up throughout the night and remember my dreams - wake up remember" mantras or auto-dismiss alarm [x] - Hand flex muWBTB [] - Dream Yoga [] - Cultivating memory [] Waking Recall: Listening to sauna on headphones -Jack getting home from school, did well in his test -receiving sauna lp in the post -Listening to clear moon while dog walking -Lentil soup for dinner -Watching wolf hall on TV WILD attempt: - I feel very numb quite quickly from doing flex freeze -however, the sleep waves do not start coming for a while -when it does, the vibrations are weak -I feel I have been on the yoga nidra stage for a long time and just decide to roll on to my side and start the WISP (Ryan Hurd technique, focus eyes on brow, listen for HI) stage -But i feel like I am straining my eyes too much, this does not feel like an effective anchor and focussing on my eyes along with not wanting to let myself go because I don't trust the anchor keeps me awake -I get uncomfortable and roll onto my back again -but I realise i won't fall asleep this way and roll onto my side -after a while i get uncomfortable again and draw my legs up to my body in foetal position, I now resolve to fall asleep no matter what -and switch from WISP to third eye chakra meditation -i'm drawn into sleep very quickly -get HH of looking at a mirror image of myself (again, lol) -and then HH of sliding/rotating around, incl. off my bed, around my room -I'm excited and trying to regulate my breathing which is going faster, trying to control it makes it laboured and uncomfortable -I also try thinking about my desired scene, (the ball in Lurhman's Romeo + Juliet for Sensei's competition) I feel like my mind might be responding, but nothing comes of it -after the sliding sensations subside I RC but I am awake Notes: do third eye meditation instead of WISP. Stop rolling over, once I'm done with relaxing my body, roll onto side and start third eye meditating and commit to it. keep meditating throughout the HH, it is not SP and I still need to keep falling asleep for the dream to form Commentary: I don't know what happened here; I seemed to do everything right, thought I'd transitioned, only to be left lying in bed, still awake!

[FryingMan]

I've tried that dream yoga visualization of the dot in the throat and I never was able to fall asleep doing that. I think for me it requires long (multi-hour) WBTB doing something quiet and boring after only 4-5 hours of sleep in order to get REALLY tired with very strong drowsiness, before something like that can work for me. Or I need to just get a whole lot better at relaxation and turning off (but only partially!) my mind.

[Ctharlhie]

I would have thought that with all your current breath work, the more meditative techs would be the ideal way into WILD for you. I think relaxing your body insufficiently might be the biggest impediment to WILD. I use this technique https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mkx88_3cD-s to relax my body until i feel like I'm on the brink of sleep, then I switch to my anchor

[FryingMan]

Thanks for the link, I'll check it out. 1.5 years into my LDing journey and I'm pretty sure I've never pulled off what I understand to be a "real" WILD, starting from full wakefulness eventually transititioning into a dream with no lapse of continuity/consciousness before the dream starts. The few times I've actually entered a dream, there's always been a discontinuity as far as I can tell.

[Ctharlhie]

Thanks for the link, I'll check it out. 1.5 years into my LDing journey and I'm pretty sure I've never pulled off what I understand to be a "real" WILD, starting from full wakefulness eventually transititioning into a dream with no lapse of continuity/consciousness before the dream starts. The few times I've actually entered a dream, there's always been a discontinuity as far as I can tell. Took me 2 years to WILD by accident, and I'm still waiting for a deliberate WILD

[Ctharlhie]

11/02/15 - LD #226 WILD no. 4 (first intentional) Bedtime: 01:28 Rise time: 06:57 Sleep quality: 65% Supplements: none WBTB: 7-9 Natural Awakenings: none WILD Attempt: yes Recall - - LDs: 1 - NLDs: 0 Tasks: receive a valentine's note Daytime practice: - Mindfulness meditation [] - 5+ SAT/RDAT (changing the karmic traces/removing grasping and aversion) [] Nighttime practice: - Mahamudra metta meditation [] - Strengthening intention [] - MicroWBTB priming, 500-1000ml of water + "I wake up throughout the night and remember my dreams - wake up remember" mantras [] -Auto dismiss alarm and fist flex muWBTB [] - Dream Yoga [] - Cultivating memory [] LD: http://www.dreamviews.com/blogs/ctha...ntional-64223/

[fogelbise]

Congratulations Ctharlhie!! Awesome to have your first intentional one!! What do you think was the key here?