Thread: Sozu's Workbook

Hellooooo
Motivation is the bane for alot of people in lucid dreaming, I'm glad you made a workbook here then!
Yeah, with MILD it can be great to imagine a scene in the dream such as your hands, it can really contribute to becoming lucid.
What is your dream recall like? It's great that you are keeping a dream journal, so keep that up, I think you will be surprised to how good you can make your recall!
I'd like you to keep up with the recall, as well as attempt some awareness techniques in the day to see what works for you. Keep it up the the MILDs and if you're motivated enough try Wake Back to Bed with with the MILD about 4.5/6 hours after bed (:

My recall differ from time to time. Sometimes when I wake up I remember some dreams while other dreams I might be able to recall a couple of minutes later. But I also know there's some days when at morning I'm still tired and just wanna keep sleeping because it just feels so good, and I think that can cause me forgetting dreams.
In my signature I also counting dreams, 1 week gone now and I've got 4 dreams and 1 fragment.
ADA techinque I'm also trying to practise, but I've had hard to remember to practise on it.
WBTB I happend to try time to time, but eighter I just got hard to fall asleep, or I fall asleep too fast, well, atleast the few times I tried so far.
I will keep on going and see if my recall does increase anything, was just a week ago I started to write in dream journal daily (or well, when I got a dream atleast).
I'm also interested about what the dreams means and finding signs, I'll try search for that tomorrow.
Now/soon I'll get to bed and do MILD and maybe try daydreaming or visualization.

Hi LonelyCloud

Recall:
If you too sleepy to get up and write your dream, you can go through your dream in your mind. This will transfer the dream from 'dream memory' to your 'regular memory'. Dream memory is erased soon after you wake up, so if you don't transfer your dreams to regular memory by thinking about them, you will most likely forget them very fast. But it's better to just write them down, or at least a few keywords that will help you recall them later.

Awareness:
If the ADA is too hard to do, try the SAT Sporadic awareness technique.

WBTB:
You have to experiment with how long you stay up. It can be different each time. You should stay up only till you can think clearly, but you still sleepy enough to fall asleep fast.

Dram signs:
You can check your DJ to see places/people/actions that repeat in many of your dreams. Those are your dream signs. When you see your dream sign in waking life, do an RC. But if your dreams don't resemble your waking life, practicing awareness should teach your mind to question if you are in a dream at any time, even when there is no dream sign present.

Please post your progress and any questions. Happy dreams

In my signature I also counting dreams, 1 week gone now and I've got 4 dreams and 1 fragment.

I like that idea!

WBTB I happend to try time to time, but eighter I just got hard to fall asleep, or I fall asleep too fast, well, atleast the few times I tried so far.

Try 4.5 hours after bed instead then

Keep us posted

The previous night I'd one fragment, and the 2 nights before that when I were sleeping in my GF's place I had no recalls at all (however, it was in her place I became lucid for 1,5 week ago).

Well, today I did remember to make RAT. First time I remembered it was at daytime around 12 o'clock. Second time was around 3pm, third was around 8-9pm. Not sure if it was 3 or 4 times I did it today. I think I also did just an hour after 3pm, so around 4pm. Have described more about that in my blog. But shortly about what I did was to stop everything as the guide told me, and kind of focus on senses I take in, sounds and feelings etc, felt my heart pumping etc and also RC with alarmclock/digital and plug nose.

Now time's over 2am, I will wake up 7am, then my first alarm turns on. Next I may go for a WBTB if I remember (I'll soon meditate and then MILD it in). Second alarm goes of 9am and then I shall go up as I need be ready 11am in city for meeting.
I'll just repeat the WBTB technique now before I go bed.


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Morning, I failed to attempt WBTB.
Went to bed at about 02:20am, meditated in like 5 min while in lotus position. Then went bed, fell asleep in maybe 2-3 min. Alarm woke me up (7am), super-tired as I was, I go there turn it off without really thinking, going back like a zombie to my bed and boom asleep. 1 hour and 20 min later time was 08:20, I woke up normally and recalled a fragment I'd right before I woke up.
Well, just has to keep trying, idk really when I should get to bed. The previous 5 days or so, I have been falling asleep around 00:00 and waking up around 7-8am. While for more than 1 week ago, I went to bed like 1-3am, then woke up about 9-11am.
I wanna go bed around 00:00, but feels not like waking up around 4,5 hours after that, cus then it's night still and might aswell wake up my dad and his girl.

Anyway, I also think I'll buy some bananas, that I can eat 3 hours before I go bed maybe.

Well, today I did remember to make RAT. First time I remembered it was at daytime around 12 o'clock.

Great work, the best times to randomly check is in the heat of something distraction, such as an interesting conversation.
Keep it up there.

Went to bed at about 02:20am, meditated in like 5 min while in lotus position. Then went bed, fell asleep in maybe 2-3 min.

Wow, you fell asleep in 3 seconds, thats really fast, due to the meditation?

The previous 5 days or so, I have been falling asleep around 00:00 and waking up around 7-8am. While for more than 1 week ago, I went to bed like 1-3am, then woke up about 9-11am.

Well your'e getting a good 8 hours sleep, which is perfect.

Try to stay focused when you WBTB, if you are really tried, stay up for about 10 mins to gain a clear head, then go back to bed and try the technique you wanted to do.

Keep at it! (:

Ahh, awesome.. once again I accidently pressing on "+ Reply to Thread" button instead of the correct "Post quick Reply" button to the right. Resulted that everything I'd written now is gone. So I will just try to re-write some of the stuffs I wrote.

Great work, the best times to randomly check is in the heat of something distraction, such as an interesting conversation.
Keep it up there.

Alright I'll try remember that.

Wow, you fell asleep in 3 seconds, thats really fast, due to the meditation?

No, I wrote 2-3 minutes, not seconds I don't know if meditation make any much sense as I haven't been doing it much, I'm still a beginner. However I want and will improve my practise on meditation as I believe it will help me in all kind of ways.
I find it great to meditate a couple of minutes before bed, if not a 20-40 min meditation that I sometimes been doing. If I'm not too tired I can meditate longer.
I think that if meditating before bed I'll be more relaxed and clear my mind(?) some. Also I've read that should not be at the computer/TV atleast 1 hour before bed. So meditation will get me some time so I don't go straight from the computer to bed for sleeping, instead I meditate a couple of minutes if not a whole hour.

Well your'e getting a good 8 hours sleep, which is perfect.

Try to stay focused when you WBTB, if you are really tried, stay up for about 10 mins to gain a clear head, then go back to bed and try the technique you wanted to do.

Keep at it! (:

Yes, but the problem is that often when I've slept 4,5 hours and alarm goes on, I'm so tired that my mind doesn't really waking up. I go up from bed (maybe like a zombie?), go to the alarmclock (maybe 5 steps away), turning it off and then going to bed again.
And YES, here it might take 3 seconds to fall asleep, maybe not, but atleast not more than 1 minute.
Sometimes though, I succeed to wake up more and can stay up.
Last night when I did this, I even told myself that I'll WBTB, but somehow my mind anyway was busy and didn't want to wake up completely.
Ofc I'll keep on trying, but not this coming night, I don't want to take the chance to wake up the family before 7am, so if I perform WBTB I'll go bed around 2-3 am I think and have time on 7am as earliest.
I'll go sleep soon maybe, around 00:00, or 01:00 as latest.

I just started with meditation also, and I agree, it will help you with more than just LDing. You don't always get quick results from meditating, but eventually you will, so keep at it. And cutting TV before bed is really good idea, unless you watch something you want to dream about.

To get your mind to wake up during WBTB, you have to get out of the bed. Read stuff on DV, watch some related videos on youtube, or anything LD related. I always drink some water before bed and each time I get up - that wakes me up naturally. Happy dreams

Yes, problem is as said that I'm getting out of my bed when I wake up with the alarmclock after about 4,5 hours of sleep. Then if I feel very tired as I sometimes use to be, the thought of staying up doesn't cross my mind. It's like if I would be a zombie that wakes up, walk to the alarm clock and shut it off, and then walk back to bed and a few seconds later I'm asleep again.

Anyway, I succeeded with 3 dreams last night, it's very great compared to the previous week when I have got about total 2 fragment.
Now I'm home again, and I'll go sleep soon in my own bed (been sleeping 2 nights away).
I'll try meditate in sitting position a few mins before I lay down for purple flame or/and sleeping.

In this coming week I might buy B75 vitamins (75mg of all B vitamins), I'm interested in trying it out to see if it does help.

Also I got new link to the blog, also added Twitter just for fun. I'll have them in the topic post.
[edit] well, couldn't edit topic after 1440 mins. Blog: http://www.iLucidity.blogspot.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/iLucidity

If you don't feel like doing the WBTB, don't worry about it. DILDs work just fine without it, WBTB is just another option at your disposal.

3 dreams a night is awesome. Keep at it I have had some success with B100 vitamin, but I think it was better with half a pill (50mg). But not always, sometimes there is no effect at all. Happy dreams

2nd night when I take the B75 pill and no recall once again.
However, I think I'd a fragment on my mind at morning, I was thinking of it and tried to remember more, but I couldn't. The fragment wasn't much, and I kinda stopped think about it and lost it before writing it down.

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Tonight I go for 2 pills, and will go bed around 00:00 this time, with an intending that when I wake up I'll recall my dreams. Before I fall asleep I'll also meditate in 10-30 min or something like that, and also train third eye in 15 min. And then I'll start play with visualization and try to daydream or something like that until I fall asleep, with lucid dream and recall in my mind.
I'll try that.

Oh, I would advise against taking 2 pills of 75mg b-complex. If you look at the info on the bottle, it's shows that many of the vitamins are already near 1000% of daily recommended dosage. I think it's better to concentrate on recall, RCs, mantras and daytime awareness. Happy dreams

On the alarm clock problem. Why don't you try changing the locations daily? That way even if you do it in a zombie-mode, it will take a bit more thought and awareness to turn it off and it may go over to dreams and increase your chances to DILD.

Originally Posted by gab

Oh, I would advise against taking 2 pills of 75mg b-complex. If you look at the info on the bottle, it's shows that many of the vitamins are already near 1000% of daily recommended dosage. I think it's better to concentrate on recall, RCs, mantras and daytime awareness. Happy dreams

Alright, well. My plans wasn't completed. Around 11pm or so I found a nice theme to Wordpress, so I saved everything important and re-installed Wordpress etc. I was done at 3am.
So, I didn't take any pills.
Though I'd 1 dream!

Originally Posted by Hukif

On the alarm clock problem. Why don't you try changing the locations daily? That way even if you do it in a zombie-mode, it will take a bit more thought and awareness to turn it off and it may go over to dreams and increase your chances to DILD.

hmm maybe, great idea.
I'll try out next time I sleep here home

So do tell, how are dreams going?

My recall is crap. I got no idea why really.
Lately I totally lost the SAT/ADA techniques, have forgot to do it :/ I did write down my days in 2,5 weeks straight, but with no effect so I kind of stopped. I think I'll try just to think or vizualize about the day in the end of the day when I'm in bed.
Also the B75 vitamin complex seems not to have any effects. Maybe I shall order B6 vitamin in coming month.

Now it have gone 1 month since I last had a LD, and since I started count my fragments and dreams.
8 fragments and 15 dreams in a month. If I could make the dreams twice as much, it would be awesome.

I will just keep on going. I'm so bored these days and got not much to do actually, so I'll try spend more time into increasing recall and LD's/awareness

Don't give up.
Try this awareness + classic RC technique:

Couple times a day, no matter what you doing, ask yourself a startling question 'Am I dreaming'. This question has to give you a jolt, has to startle you and you really have to consider the answer. Not just automatically answer 'of course I'm not'.

Look around and notice details. Pretend, you already had a bunch of lucids and they were so realistic, you had hard time telling them apart from waking reality. So, that moment could also be a dream. Look at your hands and count your fingers. Do you have the right amount? Do they look normal? Do a reality check. Tru to put your thumb through your palm. Is it going through? Pinch your nose and expect to be able to breathe. Can you? Can you levitate? If not, tell yourself, you are not dreaming. Next time I'm dreaming, I look at my hands and realize I'm dreaming.

Also, repeat this same mantra as you falling asleep "Next time I'm dreaming, I look at my hands and realize I'm dreaming".

Pretty soon, this behavior will tranfer itself into your dreams and you'll be asking yourself if you dreaming, while in regular dream. That will make you lucid. You will do a couple of RCs to make sure.

While you do this excercise, you really have to feel, like you could be in a dream at that moment. That moment is crutial in you getting lucid. You have to be excited about lucid dreams, think about how awesome it is. Read some dream journals and posts to get an idea for your first lucid and to get excited. Keep at it and you will succeed

Well, I always forget to make those SAT reality checks ><
I will just keep trying and do what I can about it. Need to do it now. Ok, I'm awake.

Well, yesterday I got my L-theanine pills I ordered for some days ago. I tried 50mg L-theanine and got quite a vivid dream (not sure if I can call it vivid, but I really remember much of it anyway) + a fragment/dream.
Not sure if it got any effect from the L-theanine, it was quite low dose of what it says I shall take (it says 100-200 mg).

Now my dad and his girl went away, I will be alone rest of the day and night, hopefully. That makes me able to concentrate and not wake up 7am by an annoying loudly kid that use to ruin the mornings for me when I wanna relax in bed.
Also will try make a WBTB and maybe take 50mg or 100mg L-theanine on it.

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and I will also maybe buy green tea or/and apple juice.

Thanks for the update Let us now how it goes with L-theanine. Happy dreams

Heh, well time's like 03:25 am now. I was thinking of going bed around 00:00 - 01:00 but somehow I had too fun.
I'll go bed now, and try wakeup in about 4,5 hours from now (at 8am in my time) and then I'll be up for a half hour as I take the L-theanine, and then go bed again.
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I had hard to fall asleep so after 20 min of just laying in bed I ate 50mg L-theanine. Now I have slept 4 hours and taken 50 mg of L-theanine again

Bah, I could not recall any dream.
Went bed at 3:30 am, took 50mg L-theanine at 3:50 am, fell asleep around 4 am, woke up 8 am and took 50mg L-theanine, went bed 8:30 am and woke up about 11 am.
Also when I went to bed at 8:30 am I'd hard to fall asleep, even though I'd taken L-theanine, used Mindfold and binaural beats and tried to imagination.
Well, will just keep trying when I'm at home.

Wow, that's not really consistent dream schedule. Are you getting good sleep? If you like, check out this collection of methods to see, if there is anything you could add to your practice. Hope this helps

Yeah I do have good sleep.
I even tried 100mg L-theanine for 2 days ago, but I'm not sure I felt any effect of it, not what I noticed. And well, I'd somewhat dream (though not vivid or big). But sadly I forgot it before I was able to write it down ><

I use to go bed between 00-03
But I will start go bed around 11pm - 00. 1am as latest. (tomorro have to wake up around 7-8am, so going bed today maybe around 10:00pm - 11:30pm)
I use to sleep probably about 7-10 hours a day.

Thanks for link, I will check it out.

Woooo, I've drinked LOADS of alcohol now. 100CL of 7,0% cider and some other kind of drink and as I'm sensative/weak and fast getting drunk, the whole world spinning now. Was my dad and his gf who got me this
I have been lucid the previous time, and got vivid dreams from alcohol. SO, I hope tonight I will again1
Time's about 11:32 pm now and I'll wake up latest 08:30am tomorrow. Maybe put first alarm at 8am.
Holy fk I never actually been this drunk before I think

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IM WASTED AAAAAAAAH HAHAHA OMFG