Well when ever you decide to practice dream plane exploration let me know. Im assuming you havn't even tried if you have where is your personal experience. No body is asking you to believe what me or anybody else is saying, im asking you to seek it out through lucid dreaming and report back with your findings, you havn't even tried and already making assumptions about the non extistence of planes. Back up what you say with your own experience not with what someone else says. Side note:Dream Yoga: Lucid Dreaming in Tibetan Buddhism Excerpt: "The ultimate goal in Tibetan dream yoga is to "apprehend the dream" (attain conscious awareness) then dissolve the dream state. When you are deprived of physical stimulus (from the sleeping body) and conceptual stimulus (from the dreaming mind), you can observe the purest form of conscious awareness.That sounds like an excellent goal for any lucid dreamer. "
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