CanisLucidus

Yay! easy way to teleport achieved. Any goal is now easier. keep up the LDing efforts.

Thanks, Boss! I agree, a solid teleport and a solid summon will do so much for LDing!

Is the "close eyes, imagine, then open eyes" approach what you do for teleportation as well?

Very cool dream! So she was a dream guide basically? Is this her? Congrats on 3 lucids in one night again!!

You had me at 'mental institution.'

My reaction to this is to think Awesome! and begin randomly making out with her for a moment.

What I really found funny was your recognition that this was a goofy idea.

I gaze down at the street below and as I try to look closely at what’s down there, I unintentionally teleport to street level.

I find the unintentional teleporting annoying. Doesn't happen often but when it does my self-talk is usually like 'seriously? I just wanted to look, not go.' By then it's pointless trying to go back to where I was so I just keep moving forward. I see you do the same, lol.

“Okay,” she says. “I could do that if you want. But before you decide what to ask for, you need to know that I can help you do anything you want me to.” She really emphasizes this last part.

Haha. I like the open-mindedness and your ability to second guess your intentions.

Even though she doesn’t say it outright, I get the sense that I get only one chance to make a choice. “Can you help me get to the Great Barrier Reef?” I ask, referring to Task of the Year.

It's nicer when things aren't said outright, wouldn't you agree? That's actually pretty impressive on your part. Not staying fixated on lust and opting for something more useful and rewarding (not that sex can't be those things but I get the impression this encounter, had you opted for the original plan, would not have been those things.)

“Yes!” she says. “I can help you with anything! We have to take an airplane to get to Australia.” She hurries down the sidewalk and I follow her. Day quickly turns to night as we approach a squat, black building that looks a bit like a dingy train station.

She explains that, “There’s no direct flight to Australia from this airport so we’ll have to stop at <some name> airport.” The place doesn't really look like an airport, but I believe what she's saying.

I love her excitement and eagerness. Contrasted with your hesitancy, it makes a very comical scenario. Gawd and the fact that she offers up a dingy train station and sells it as an airport, and you're just like, 'cool!' it just .... it's hilarious.

“Can’t I just teleport to the other airport?” I ask. (For some reason, teleporting right to the Great Barrier Reef does not occur to me.)

I hear that's the thing with archetypes. You have to believe the illusion. Belief is a finicky thing too. For some opening a random door is enough to get them to their expected destination. For others it takes more effort. She tried a train station/airport (still laughing about that) what's really great is you went for something more complicated but less complicated. You made it work for you.

“Go ahead! Try it now, it’ll work!” she says, rather excitedly. I feel incredibly encouraged by this. I close my eyes, imagine the other airport, open them again, and now I’m inside a huge room in a new airport!

Lol. There she is again with all that excitement. I assume it's a lot easier to believe in yourself when someone else does too. I'm as excited for you being able to use this technique as it appears you are here. Who would've guessed you'd just up and try it. Like, fuck rational archetypes involving actual transportation, I'm just gonna skip it all and go straight to the more abstract ideas.

and it worked for you.

She’s standing nearby grinning and she says something congratulatory and mentions that we need to catch our flight. I assume that I can just teleport to the next location, though, and I immediately close my eyes again. I get a sudden little jolt of fear that I’ll mess up somehow. In particular I fear that I'll open my real eyes, so I kind of lose my nerve. The room goes into this half-haze, she disappears, and I feel like I’m losing the dream.

Trying to be an over-achiever, I see. Lol. Very cool that you tried a second time.

I paw at the scenery nearby and after a bit the scene comes back. Unfortunately my travel buddy seems to be gone for good. I wander around a bit more, walking through a bathroom and mentally writing something on the wall. I find this interesting at first but start feeling a little frustrated when the letters and words won’t stay the same.

You seem like you have good dream control. You're able to recall goals, techniques, succeed, fail, identify when the dream is falling apart, then stop what's causing the degradation and adjust accordingly. That's impressive.


I'm just ..... so excited for you, lol. I'm so glad you picked the reef option.

oh, one last comment on something. I was sitting here and trying to understand why she'd make it a two-stop trip. I mean, she could've just taken you straight there. It could've easily been a direct trip. So why the two stops? Then it dawned on me.

You sought her help for getting to the reef. Which suggests you don't know where it is that lack of knowledge makes it difficult to get directly there. There's no point of focus, no anchor to set. Hence, the lay-over. Adding that extra point-of-reference helps because you already know what an airport looks like. You can visualize that destination and it helps invest into the larger archetype.

At least that's what I'd like to believe was behind the extra step. Don't really know for sure and I doubt it'll ever get explained, lol.

@Kaomea - Wow, thanks for the awesome comment!

What I really found funny was your recognition that this was a goofy idea.

Ha ha, thanks... goofy like so very many of the ideas I have during my lucids!

I find the unintentional teleporting annoying. Doesn't happen often but when it does my self-talk is usually like 'seriously? I just wanted to look, not go.' By then it's pointless trying to go back to where I was so I just keep moving forward. I see you do the same, lol.

So it's not just me then!! Fortunately in this case I was 50 feet up walking along the side of a mental institution, so I didn't feel as annoyed as I would have otherwise. Because the accidental teleport can be hugely annoying. That actually happened to Xanous once when he was flying to Saturn. As he got closer and closer to it, it suddenly turned into a toy Saturn sitting in a child's playroom! Can you even imagine?

Haha. I like the open-mindedness and your ability to second guess your intentions.

It's nicer when things aren't said outright, wouldn't you agree? That's actually pretty impressive on your part. Not staying fixated on lust and opting for something more useful and rewarding (not that sex can't be those things but I get the impression this encounter, had you opted for the original plan, would not have been those things.)

Thanks! Definitely better implied. And "implied" works just fine in dreams since the events that unfold are based on your beliefs anyway. So what you think is implied, generally is. (Although dreams are of course full of surprised, always!)

I agree that this was definitely right choice considering that it got me to try out that great teleport tech! But if I'd wound up wandering around an airport for the whole LD waiting for the first leg of my flight, I'd probably be kicking myself and wondering about the road not taken.

I love her excitement and eagerness. Contrasted with your hesitancy, it makes a very comical scenario. Gawd and the fact that she offers up a dingy train station and sells it as an airport, and you're just like, 'cool!' it just .... it's hilarious.

I hear that's the thing with archetypes. You have to believe the illusion. Belief is a finicky thing too. For some opening a random door is enough to get them to their expected destination. For others it takes more effort. She tried a train station/airport (still laughing about that) what's really great is you went for something more complicated but less complicated. You made it work for you.

Great points! The airport that looked like a train station was really funny to me too. She sold it, though, and a lot of times in dreams, I'll believe absolutely anything!

Lol. There she is again with all that excitement. I assume it's a lot easier to believe in yourself when someone else does too. I'm as excited for you being able to use this technique as it appears you are here. Who would've guessed you'd just up and try it. Like, fuck rational archetypes involving actual transportation, I'm just gonna skip it all and go straight to the more abstract ideas.

I know, I didn't see it coming at all! I was pretty much going along with the airport / take a plane to the Great Barrier Reef scenario she was leading me through. You know, I think what finally got me was the fact that there would be a layover. That could be what finally made it dawn on me that this is going to take too long and that I might run out of time. It was kind of perfect that I had an intelligent DC that I liked ready to assure me that what I was about to try was going to go just fine.

It's really amusing to think of the mind generating validation and reassurance for itself, but I think it helped here. Then again, when I really think about it, I guess my mind is always generating validation and reassurance for itself anytime I try something that makes me nervous. This just seems like a much more believable (and amusing) version!)

@Kaomea -

oh, one last comment on something. I was sitting here and trying to understand why she'd make it a two-stop trip. I mean, she could've just taken you straight there. It could've easily been a direct trip. So why the two stops? Then it dawned on me.

You sought her help for getting to the reef. Which suggests you don't know where it is that lack of knowledge makes it difficult to get directly there. There's no point of focus, no anchor to set. Hence, the lay-over. Adding that extra point-of-reference helps because you already know what an airport looks like. You can visualize that destination and it helps invest into the larger archetype.

At least that's what I'd like to believe was behind the extra step. Don't really know for sure and I doubt it'll ever get explained, lol.

That actually makes a lot of sense! Especially since the first "airport" wasn't exactly the most... airport-like of places. Like you said, we'll never really know the "why" for sure, or how much of this is just a happy accident.

One thing that the layover definitely did was make me antsy about all the waiting I was doing. I think that at first I was really buying into the idea that I needed to hang around an airport with my travel buddy and wait to be picked up. Waiting's not usually a great plan in an LD, though, so the layover made for a nice nudge that hey, unless something changes, this is going to take forever.

Maybe that was just good luck, but if it gets me where I need to be, I welcome it!

Thanks, Boss! I agree, a solid teleport and a solid summon will do so much for LDing!

Is the "close eyes, imagine, then open eyes" approach what you do for teleportation as well?

Sort of, but I don't open my eyes. I just close them and imagine the next scene. It feels like a WILD and I transition to the scene I want. I forget about it all the time in dream though. Sometimes I will even lay down and close my eyes like I am going to sleep to make it feel more like I am going to a different part of a dream.

Very cool dream! So she was a dream guide basically? Is this her? Congrats on 3 lucids in one night again!!

Thanks, fogelbise! I've never been sure which DCs counted as dream guides, but she definitely seemed to be in that special category of intelligent, aware "smart DCs" as I call them. They're always so cool to interact with because in many ways their brains seem to work better than mine is during an LD.

That picture is certainly the right idea, although her hair was darker (brown) and she was just slightly more athletic-looking and a little older. Hard to describe a person, you know? Lucid dreamers really ought to be able to draw.

Sort of, but I don't open my eyes. I just close them and imagine the next scene. It feels like a WILD and I transition to the scene I want. I forget about it all the time in dream though. Sometimes I will even lay down and close my eyes like I am going to sleep to make it feel more like I am going to a different part of a dream.

Nice! You know, it's your dream, so why not be able to see right through your own "eyelids" whenever you want, right?

That's cool that you do an in-dream WILD while already lucid! This was one of the teleport ideas I had a long time ago but had never tried. It's great to hear that it works for you! I have done the in-dream WILD while non-lucid when I go to bed thinking about lucidity, and it works amazingly well for entering an LD.

Very slick, thanks!

@BrandonBoss-when you do this do you feel that your consciousness is partly transferring back to your sleeping body and then you basically DEILD or that it is all happening definitely within the dream state?

@CL-I was definitely thinking of the DG as part of your sub-conscious...intelligent external DG's that is a whole 'nother interesting discussion that I seen has popped up on DV here and there. I don't think I have had DC's give me help yet (I still plan to start asking just to see if it is something mind-blowing). Sometimes I get a disembodied voice explaining away why something is weird/why something doesn't match waking life logic (usually in non-lucids). I agree, I definitely wish I could draw these worlds and characters properly like some have the artistic knack for. I drew the layout of the house I was in on my paper dj and it was pathetic.

Yes, I did that as well in non lucids, so i tried to do it in lucids. It is good and reliablish. If you wake up accidentally, you can just DEILD of course.

Also, congrats on cute DG. We all want one, but mine seems to be an old man. Wise... Not sexy.

Fogelbise. Sometimes one way, sometimes the other. Kind of cook when it is the other since it is technically 2 LDs. It have been DEILDing less lately since I have no problems with stabilization. I think that I normally last the whole rem cycle now.

Yes, I did that as well in non lucids, so i tried to do it in lucids. It is good and reliablish. If you wake up accidentally, you can just DEILD of course.

I just love the in-dream WILD because it's so elegant and meta. After all, the challenging part of a WILD is keeping your consciousness intact while you cross the veil of sleep. What better time to attempt it when you're already conscious and already sleep... and already having a lucid dream!

Also, congrats on cute DG. We all want one, but mine seems to be an old man. Wise... Not sexy.

Thanks, she was definitely cool! The "wise old man" archetype's got its advantages too. At least you can avoid having the problem I had in this dream where you have to make those awkward admissions of "Yes, DG, I was thinking sexy thoughts about you just now. I denounce myself."

Sooo, congrats on the 3ple ld and double teleport! :bravo:

I have enjoyed reading about both teleport styles. The zoom in teleport is so intriguing and can be applied to a number of situations. Come to think of it, it would have been really handy to have this skill to zoom in when the Sphinx and pyramid were far away as well as one of those evasive and hard to reach waterfalls. And it makes the idea of using miniatures feel more doable too.

Very impressed by the smart DC too! Man we need more of these around. Their mere presence acts like a super boost on one's confidence.

Awesome teleport! I don't know what's gotten into you because you keep on surprising me with every entry you post. Fantastic stuff!

Keep up the good mood CL!

Congrats CL.
Your buddy sounded amazing. I hope you meet her again!

BTW was it a G. night by any chance?

Wow dude! That DC was fantastic! She freaken gave you teleporting skills. Now this should be no problem to you at all.

Originally Posted by NyxCC

Sooo, congrats on the 3ple ld and double teleport! :bravo:

I have enjoyed reading about both teleport styles. The zoom in teleport is so intriguing and can be applied to a number of situations. Come to think of it, it would have been really handy to have this skill to zoom in when the Sphinx and pyramid were far away as well as one of those evasive and hard to reach waterfalls. And it makes the idea of using miniatures feel more doable too.

Yes, thank you for reminding me of your idea of "zooming into" a miniature! Now how come I can't just read one of your comments and then immediately have an LD like 30 seconds later so I'm sure to remember these ideas when the time comes?

But it's just like you said! Think of all those times where there's some object on the distant horizon and we fly and fly toward it. I mean, we can get there if we're patient (and lucky enough not to run into any trouble on the way), but zooming there would be a lot faster.

Very impressed by the smart DC too! Man we need more of these around. Their mere presence acts like a super boost on one's confidence.

Awesome teleport! I don't know what's gotten into you because you keep on surprising me with every entry you post. Fantastic stuff!

Keep up the good mood CL!

Thanks, Nyx! I'm with you, I love those smart DCs. I know that we should be able to call them up whenever we need them but I have never made a real attempt at doing this. I mean, the DCs for real people tend to be this way but these completely original characters... I should be able to just call one up when I want, right?

Sometimes it's overwhelming how much stuff there is to try! All I ask is for an LD every single night so I've got time for it all. Is that so much to ask? =)

Originally Posted by Highlander

BTW was it a G. night by any chance?

It was! Lately due to life circumstances I've been averaging 5-6 hours of sleep per night. I try to carve out a night every few days to go to bed early. You put a little galantamine on top of that REM rebound and it seems some crazy stuff can happen!

And thanks!

Originally Posted by Xanous

Wow dude! That DC was fantastic! She freaken gave you teleporting skills. Now this should be no problem to you at all.

Thanks, man! I know, it's really cool to have finally used this method. When I think about it now, I can't get quite that same level of confidence I felt during the dream, but I've gotta get over that! If we do these things once, we can do em again. Plus, this closed eyes teleport is my last shot at Task of the Year, which is looking increasingly unlikely.

Thanks, man! I know, it's really cool to have finally used this method. When I think about it now, I can't get quite that same level of confidence I felt during the dream, but I've gotta get over that! If we do these things once, we can do em again. Plus, this closed eyes teleport is my last shot at Task of the Year, which is looking increasingly unlikely.

Yes, I know how it is. My wormhole teleport only happened like once or twice. I need to get back on track with that myself. I've only completed two!

Yeah dude, two here as well, and that's with working my butt off for the entire year! I did Great Wall and Angel Falls... and I know you did Angel Falls and the Colosseum but I also thought you did the Great Wall of China...? Oh wait, no, that was a close call but not quite there for you, wasn't it? Well, very impressive anyway. It would kick ass if we could still manage it but man is time getting short!