Thread: Dream Sharing

I had a dream experience in which I became lucid and called for my close friend Michael to appear. I was in a forest and another friend of mine named Lucien appeared instead. He told me that Michael was "closer than you think". I looked around and saw only trees. Then suddenly an image began to appear on the trunk of a tree and took the form of Michael's face. The image then morphed out of the tree and it was Michael. I hugged him and told him to remember our meeting.

The next morning I called Michael and told him about the dream. There was a stunned silence until he said "you have to come over to my house immediately". I drove over to his house and he took me out to his backyard. He showed me that the day before he had carved an image of his face onto a tree trunk in his yard.

Originally Posted by roswell

I had a dream experience in which I became lucid and called for my close friend Michael to appear. I was in a forest and another friend of mine named Lucien appeared instead. He told me that Michael was "closer than you think". I looked around and saw only trees. Then suddenly an image began to appear on the trunk of a tree and took the form of Michael's face. The image then morphed out of the tree and it was Michael. I hugged him and told him to remember our meeting.

The next morning I called Michael and told him about the dream. There was a stunned silence until he said "you have to come over to my house immediately". I drove over to his house and he took me out to his backyard. He showed me that the day before he had carved an image of his face onto a tree trunk in his yard.

WOW! That is so cool! Can you post a photo of that carving please?

Originally Posted by roswell

. He showed me that the day before he had carved an image of his face onto a tree trunk in his yard.

Whow... I love this

I'll post the photo as soon as one of my kids get home and help me. I'm "old school" and my computer skills suck.

There is very little I don't believe possible; I'm of the Lewis Carrol school of thought- six impossible things before breaky.

That said, to me, dream sharing the way people describe it (and this probably is the biggest flaw here) seems dubious as. I'm not waiting for proof or anything I just really don't get it. May sound corduroy jacketed and totally up tight but I really don't understand the logistics of it?

The concept of shared dreaming absolutely fascinates me. I used to be pretty skeptical, but I've had too many weird dream experiences (and waking life experiences) to not believe in it. The dream plane is a totally different place, where science as we know it doesn't exist. At least that's how I see it. I can't wait to try it, hopefully can get in on some shared dreams with some folks here at DV. I wish I could talk to my friends about it and try it out with them too, but I just don't feel comfortable with that idea for some reason. A lot of my friends are kinda skeptical about anything spiritual or "other-worldly".

Tried to post a link to the photo but got an error message saying I must be a member for 7 days to post a link. I've only been a member for 4 days. I'll post it next year.

Originally Posted by roswell

Tried to post a link to the photo but got an error message saying I must be a member for 7 days to post a link. I've only been a member for 4 days. I'll post it next year.

Haha, nice

I believe in everything untill it is proven impossible..

Evilchickens, that's a great idea and I almost posted the same thing myself. I'd definitely participate in that - it should objectively prove shared dreaming one way or another.

The obvious problem is with people cheating, but if we get enough participants that should be minimized. Any skeptics could join and have shared dreaming proven to them, as this would conclusively determine it one way or another. If we could get the majority of the site to join, people could come here and be paired up with someone, tell that person a password, and see if the person replies the next day with the correct password.

We should have two groups - one with a third party and one without. If all the tests involved a third party, there could be suspicion of fixing the results. That's why we need some groups to be direct, with a person coming up with a word themselves, not telling anyone, and delivering it in the dream. Of course, this group wouldn't be as objective because the person in question could lie about what the password was (either way), but it would prove to the individual himself/herself whether this actually works. That person would know in his/her mind, although it wouldn't be accepted by the community.

I can't become lucid regularly yet, so I wouldn't be able to participate right away. It's a great idea, though, and I would strongly recommend all experienced dreamers to participate.

Originally Posted by GMoney

Evilchickens, that's a great idea and I almost posted the same thing myself. I'd definitely participate in that - it should objectively prove shared dreaming one way or another.

The obvious problem is with people cheating, but if we get enough participants that should be minimized. Any skeptics could join and have shared dreaming proven to them, as this would conclusively determine it one way or another. If we could get the majority of the site to join, people could come here and be paired up with someone, tell that person a password, and see if the person replies the next day with the correct password.

We should have two groups - one with a third party and one without. If all the tests involved a third party, there could be suspicion of fixing the results. That's why we need some groups to be direct, with a person coming up with a word themselves, not telling anyone, and delivering it in the dream. Of course, this group wouldn't be as objective because the person in question could lie about what the password was (either way), but it would prove to the individual himself/herself whether this actually works. That person would know in his/her mind, although it wouldn't be accepted by the community.

I can't become lucid regularly yet, so I wouldn't be able to participate right away. It's a great idea, though, and I would strongly recommend all experienced dreamers to participate.

this sounds soooooooo cool! i have the same problem though... no regular lucids but eventually i would like to participate in things like this though in the future and i will definitely keep an eye out on these results!

Evilchickens and GMoney-You guys should get this going, or someone should...that sounds like an awesome idea! I'd participate once I could get my LDing skills back up to par.

Distance shouldn't be a factor, but we could definitely test for it. It would be ideal to isolate different variables like distance and see which ones change the outcome and which ones are irrelevant. It's definitely something to test for.

If you go by the best dream sharers, though, they all say that distance and time don't matter at all. I'm not sure how credible their word is, but they're the leaders in this field and definitely should be given a lot of consideration.

Great.

We could get people with higher lucid expierence to tell the password as they are more able and ones with low the recieve the password as long as they have good dream recall. We also need to have people in the same time zones so they are sleeping at the same time.

It may be possible for people with very little expirence to work together as well. By telling themselfs the password and location over and over as the go to sleep like others do to lucid dream they might be able to share dreams and tell each other the password without being lucid at all. Or one's with high lucid have the password and lots of newds try share the dream together, which is a good mention as the are lots of low xp people and less high xp.

We could also get people in oppisite time zones to share by one sleeping during the day, see if distance and also odjects(that being the earths in between the two particitance) really do make a differences.

I'll be more than happy to be a guinea pig, if anyone wants to experiment on me. If any experienced lucid dreamer wants to come into my dreams and tell me a password, more likely than not I'll remember it. I'll be posting in my dream journal on this site every day, so if one of my entries corresponds to what you said let me know. But it fails, you can't tell me what password you gave because then I might have an idea of what kind of passwords you have and I might just have a dream of you giving it to me on a complete guess. Of course, this also assumes that it's okay for one of the people not to be lucid.

It would actually be pretty awesome if all the experienced shared dreamers tried coming into my dreams and telling me passwords. I'll write it down in my dream journal every day, and if it's the same thing you said in your dream then we can prove this thing. We'd still need more tests, but you'd have proven it to me and that's all I need. I'll advocate shared dreaming and shout it from the rooftops if anyone can prove it to me, which I really hope someone can.

I've made another improvement. Both particenents have different passwords and exchange when in the dream. This way it more likely the one will remember the dream and have a exchange passwod. And also proving a two way comunication.

People will be paired with others in the same time zone so that they sleep at the same time, It might help if the two people have a place they both been before or a place which there are many photos (possibly look around using google earth with all its 3D buildings ).

If your willing to get involved please say you are and we can start pairing people up. Say which time zone you live in and your dream expirence.

That would be great if both people were lucid, but I don't think there are enough people who can lucid on command to do it. The person who's not lucid shouldn't have a password, since they'd never remember it or even if they did they probably wouldn't say it in the dream.

Same thing with the location - if both people are lucid, that's perfect. But for people like me who can't get lucid, the more experienced dreamer has to come into my dream. Maybe we should try out both sets - one with both people lucid and the other with one lucid and one non-lucid.

EST here.

It is easeir to make you dream of a location than to lucid dream, just repeating the location and visilasing it in your mind as you fall asleep, and the same for the password as it is likely the two will never meet in the real world it is possible to say the password out loud through the day so you will say it in your dream like others do reality checks so they do them in the dream.

I have very little xp with lucid deaming and some nights dont every rememder my dreams.

Maybe some days we should have mass sharing dreams where everyone goes to a location known glodally like washington or london or what ever, and everyone has a password which we all come back the next day to conferm.

I'm in!

I'm in the Central Time Zone. This idea just keeps getting better and better!

Gmoney it would be useful to know what time zone your in?

I'm in the Eastern Standard Time Zone, United States.

How does it even work? How can you dream with another while they are a awake? Future dreaming? Inception? What?

Mr blonde where trying to share dreams at the same time. I dont think it would work if someone already had the dream.

kristanicole07 if your good at dream recall and lucid dreaming you pair up with gmoney. And if you are good you can tell your pass word to gmoney and the ask for gmoney's password if gmoney doesn't rememder to say it.

I'm would like to get involved so I'll try improve my lucid dream count and then I'll pair up with someone to.

Alright, that works for me. I'm good at recall, a little rusty at LDs due to lack of practice, but I'll be glad to work with him. Hopefully we can get some good results!

Okay Krista, let's do this!

I can't lucid at all, so you're going to try to come into my dreams. There's a tutorial on here by Man of Shred about where to find people for shared dreaming, but I can't post links yet so maybe you could search for it. WakingNomad has tons of posts on shared dreaming, so that's a good place to start, as it seems like he knows what he's talking about. He's the expert at this, so we could probably learn a lot from him.

I'll keep posting in my DJ every day, so watch and see if any of my entries correlate with what you did. Here's to good dreaming and a successful SD!