Dream Sharing

The concept of shared dreaming absolutely fascinates me. I used to be pretty skeptical, but I've had too many weird dream experiences (and waking life experiences) to not believe in it. The dream plane is a totally different place, where science as we know it doesn't exist. At least that's how I see it. I can't wait to try it, hopefully can get in on some shared dreams with some folks here at DV. I wish I could talk to my friends about it and try it out with them too, but I just don't feel comfortable with that idea for some reason. A lot of my friends are kinda skeptical about anything spiritual or "other-worldly".

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Haha, nice ;)

I'm not sure about dream sharing since there is not known physical link between the two people involved, although I am going to look it to it with a sciencific mind, open and no pretences.

For a start to prove it we need a large group of people to get involved to remove experimantal error. We then need to find a good way to confirm the dream was shared. I think a good way is to have two people and both share a dream, one of them is given a secret password although can be numders to tell the other when in the dream, if the other person has learn the words or numders through the dream the they have most likely shared that dream.

The reason I wouldn't choose the things that happen in dreams as a evidence is that because the point of dream sharing is plan the terrain and so the dreams are similar but not shared. Another reason is that by telling the other person what happened in your dream you might make them think it happen in there dream to.

Please post your results of this method. Be honest. (sorry about my spelling and sentence constuct)

I believe in everything untill it is proven impossible..

Evilchickens, that's a great idea and I almost posted the same thing myself. I'd definitely participate in that - it should objectively prove shared dreaming one way or another.

The obvious problem is with people cheating, but if we get enough participants that should be minimized. Any skeptics could join and have shared dreaming proven to them, as this would conclusively determine it one way or another. If we could get the majority of the site to join, people could come here and be paired up with someone, tell that person a password, and see if the person replies the next day with the correct password.

We should have two groups - one with a third party and one without. If all the tests involved a third party, there could be suspicion of fixing the results. That's why we need some groups to be direct, with a person coming up with a word themselves, not telling anyone, and delivering it in the dream. Of course, this group wouldn't be as objective because the person in question could lie about what the password was (either way), but it would prove to the individual himself/herself whether this actually works. That person would know in his/her mind, although it wouldn't be accepted by the community.

I can't become lucid regularly yet, so I wouldn't be able to participate right away. It's a great idea, though, and I would strongly recommend all experienced dreamers to participate.

Evilchickens and GMoney-You guys should get this going, or someone should...that sounds like an awesome idea! I'd participate once I could get my LDing skills back up to par.

I am very curious about this sort of thing, but I don't have any friends in on it yet, but there may be one person willing. She lives far away and I wondered if distance affects dream sharing?

Distance shouldn't be a factor, but we could definitely test for it. It would be ideal to isolate different variables like distance and see which ones change the outcome and which ones are irrelevant. It's definitely something to test for.

If you go by the best dream sharers, though, they all say that distance and time don't matter at all. I'm not sure how credible their word is, but they're the leaders in this field and definitely should be given a lot of consideration.

Great.

We could get people with higher lucid expierence to tell the password as they are more able and ones with low the recieve the password as long as they have good dream recall. We also need to have people in the same time zones so they are sleeping at the same time.

It may be possible for people with very little expirence to work together as well. By telling themselfs the password and location over and over as the go to sleep like others do to lucid dream they might be able to share dreams and tell each other the password without being lucid at all. Or one's with high lucid have the password and lots of newds try share the dream together, which is a good mention as the are lots of low xp people and less high xp.

We could also get people in oppisite time zones to share by one sleeping during the day, see if distance and also odjects(that being the earths in between the two particitance) really do make a differences.

I'll be more than happy to be a guinea pig, if anyone wants to experiment on me. :) If any experienced lucid dreamer wants to come into my dreams and tell me a password, more likely than not I'll remember it. I'll be posting in my dream journal on this site every day, so if one of my entries corresponds to what you said let me know. But it fails, you can't tell me what password you gave because then I might have an idea of what kind of passwords you have and I might just have a dream of you giving it to me on a complete guess. Of course, this also assumes that it's okay for one of the people not to be lucid.

It would actually be pretty awesome if all the experienced shared dreamers tried coming into my dreams and telling me passwords. I'll write it down in my dream journal every day, and if it's the same thing you said in your dream then we can prove this thing. We'd still need more tests, but you'd have proven it to me and that's all I need. I'll advocate shared dreaming and shout it from the rooftops if anyone can prove it to me, which I really hope someone can.

I've made another improvement. Both particenents have different passwords and exchange when in the dream. This way it more likely the one will remember the dream and have a exchange passwod. And also proving a two way comunication.

People will be paired with others in the same time zone so that they sleep at the same time, It might help if the two people have a place they both been before or a place which there are many photos (possibly look around using google earth with all its 3D buildings :) ).

If your willing to get involved please say you are and we can start pairing people up. Say which time zone you live in and your dream expirence.

That would be great if both people were lucid, but I don't think there are enough people who can lucid on command to do it. The person who's not lucid shouldn't have a password, since they'd never remember it or even if they did they probably wouldn't say it in the dream.

Same thing with the location - if both people are lucid, that's perfect. But for people like me who can't get lucid, the more experienced dreamer has to come into my dream. Maybe we should try out both sets - one with both people lucid and the other with one lucid and one non-lucid.

EST here.

It is easeir to make you dream of a location than to lucid dream, just repeating the location and visilasing it in your mind as you fall asleep, and the same for the password as it is likely the two will never meet in the real world it is possible to say the password out loud through the day so you will say it in your dream like others do reality checks so they do them in the dream.

I have very little xp with lucid deaming and some nights dont every rememder my dreams.

Maybe some days we should have mass sharing dreams where everyone goes to a location known glodally like washington or london or what ever, and everyone has a password which we all come back the next day to conferm.

I'm in! :D

I'm in the Central Time Zone. This idea just keeps getting better and better!

Gmoney it would be useful to know what time zone your in?

I'm in the Eastern Standard Time Zone, United States.

How does it even work? How can you dream with another while they are a awake? Future dreaming? Inception? What?

Mr blonde where trying to share dreams at the same time. I dont think it would work if someone already had the dream.

kristanicole07 if your good at dream recall and lucid dreaming you pair up with gmoney. And if you are good you can tell your pass word to gmoney and the ask for gmoney's password if gmoney doesn't rememder to say it.

I'm would like to get involved so I'll try improve my lucid dream count and then I'll pair up with someone to.

Alright, that works for me. I'm good at recall, a little rusty at LDs due to lack of practice, but I'll be glad to work with him. Hopefully we can get some good results! :)

Okay Krista, let's do this! :)

I can't lucid at all, so you're going to try to come into my dreams. There's a tutorial on here by Man of Shred about where to find people for shared dreaming, but I can't post links yet so maybe you could search for it. WakingNomad has tons of posts on shared dreaming, so that's a good place to start, as it seems like he knows what he's talking about. He's the expert at this, so we could probably learn a lot from him.

I'll keep posting in my DJ every day, so watch and see if any of my entries correlate with what you did. Here's to good dreaming and a successful SD! :cheers:

I'm willing to participate in this experiment. I'll post a DJ entry once I get settled in :)
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My time is Pacific Standard Time :shadewink:

Alrighty, GMoney...I'll do my best! I'll check out Man of Shred's tutorial, and I'll browse a little more through WakingNomad's journal (I've already read a bit of his).

I can't promise anything will happen right away, though. We definitely are gonna need to work on this, I'm thinking. Or maybe we'll be surprised. Who knows. :P I'll keep reading your DJ, and if an entry corresponds with a dream I had at all, I'll let you know. Let's do this!! :)

If the dream was lucid I think you might be able to use the teleportion things to jump into other peoples dreams. Which would help if the dream didn't start as a shared one. Something like turning round to see a door with you dream parnter's name on it or something like that so you can walk into their dream.

I have an interesting experience to share, will be updating my DJ here pretty soon, as soon as I hear from GMoney. :D