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      The only thing I don't like about those articles you posted, Nina, is that they mix fact and hearsay and misinformation together and present it all as the same. For instance, it calls Masaru Emoto a "groundbreaking alternative scientist" that the mainstream scientific community has disregarded; no doubt referring to the emotion water crystal project of his. The fact is though, he himself recognizes that it is not scientific and is merely interesting art.

      The first one relies heavily on the piezoelectric effect to give it credibility, but piezoelectricity doesn't have to do with crystals vibrating at a certain frequency directly. The piezoelectric effect is an electrical charge given off by some crystals when stress is applied to them (squeezed) and inversely, a change in shape when an electrical current is applied to them. The other thing is, not all crystals exhibit piezoelectricity, only ones with a certain crystal structure do.

      The specificness of the frequency at which the crystals resonate is not due to piezoelectricity at all, and is just inherent in every uniform material. A piezoelectric crystal is not constantly giving off a particular electromagnetic frequency. Only when it is squeezed and then released does it do this. Pyroelectric crystals, on the other hand give off electromagnetic energy when heated.

      It is interesting, and we still don't really know a whole lot about the properties of crystals from a scientific perspective but it is hard to say. I'd say its definitely possible that crystals could interact with the electromagnetic field of the body in some way, and since states of consciousness are associated with certain wave patterns in the brain, crystal resonators could be associated with very specific states of consciousness that coincide with those particular frequencies.

      Does anyone here have concrete personal experience apart from incidental anecdotes (like, this one thing happened this one time when I had a crystal near me)? Something that you are convinced goes beyond confirmation biases and placebo effects?

      What everyone is saying about crystals being tools to focus intent, that is not what I am interested in, and people who believe in this stuff would definitely say that the crystals have esoteric properties that are independent of our beliefs about them. I personally don't have much need for an object to focus my intent, I am just interested in the natural world and all of the things we don't fully understand about it. Are you saying that crystals definitely have no inherent properties that affect consciousness?
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      If you take a big salt crystal (I only tried with a big pink Himalayan Salt crystal) and place it in your palm, or on the table, or any flat surface, and take your other hand and wave it over it slowly, you can feel it in your hand and the crystal will rock, or move as you pass your hand over it. I have tried to "feel" other crystals and only came up with subjective results, but this was objective. I urge anybody to try it. A big himalayan salt crystal.
      I was doing it at a New Age crystal tradeshow where all these people come to trade and sell their crystals. It was labeled as "Nirvana Quartz" and I was experimenting with it. The guy tried to sell it to me for $200. I didn't buy it. Later I found out it was himalayan salt and was worth maybe $15. New Age huckster!
      But it works!!! You can make it rock drastically back and forth while you wave your hand over it! And you feel the electro-magnetic push and pull in your palm. Try it!

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      Selenite is great!!! It actually amplifies the effects of other crystals. Selenite comes in a flat sheetobject with a 'grain' that goes in one direction, like a bunch of little lines. It conducts light in a linear fashion. You can place your dreaming stones in a mandala or geometric polygon on the sheet of selenite and program it and it will amplify it.
      I slept with a chunk of selenite under my pillow, unfortunately it was too big and bulky and oncomfortable. But as an amplifier under your bed, it works great.
      Herkimer diamond!!! For lucidity. But don't wear it during the day, too spacey.

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