Thread: Is sharing dreams possible ?

Originally Posted by izabael

I think it's narrow-minded to insist that this type of thing never occurs (being in someone else's dream).

*bites tongue*

Must not bring debate into thread. Must not post video...

I shall just say this: demanding evidence is not being close-minded. I just happen to be seeing a lack of very SOLID evidence, I guess. Thus far, all of the first-hand experiments seem to involve communication between the parties, which *may* be able to corrupt the results. What needs to happen is that there needs to be experiments run under laboratory settings with contact between the two parties that shall attempt to share dreams limited, monitored, and heavily regulated. If results can be produced relatively consistently between multiple parties of subjects, then shared dreaming would definitely hold water. As is, though, I'm just...skeptical. I'm not saying it doesn't happen or that it is impossible, I'm just...skeptical.

I don't know how people would know that they were sharing a dream with someone, and that that someone wasn't just a DC. Not only that, but you would have to both be asleep and lucid at the same time... seems improbable, just with that criteria. I can't say it doesn't exist, but I'm not going to believe in it unless I experience it.

Originally Posted by Pepperoni Pizza

I don't know how people would know that they were sharing a dream with someone, and that that someone wasn't just a DC. Not only that, but you would have to both be asleep and lucid at the same time... seems improbable, just with that criteria. I can't say it doesn't exist, but I'm not going to believe in it unless I experience it.

well i guess I was about to find out of i was dealing with a dc or not. ofcourse in order to find out the other guy had to remember AND be lucid and all but anyways i tried t
esting for a DC/ real person in this dream i had.
You can read about it in this section, the post is called "Scariest experience ever"

Fact is i won't really believe it either except for if I ever experience it or see real evidence.

Yeah, again unproven. On the other hand I believe in the possibility of... well, anything. I knew a pagan lady who had huge respect in the pagan community (she was like the highest rank.) She told me shes had many shared dreaming experiences and shes not one to lie, trust me. So WHO KNOWS!!! I personally cannot fully believe it until I experience it for myself!

Look, scientifically, no it's just not possible. I don't mean to be close minded but I would align this with paranormal activity. Then again, if you believe in that I just don't know what to tell you. If saw some strong proven research on the contrary I could be swayed but it would have to be real research and be big news. I assure you if stuff like that was possible it would be highly publicized.

Originally Posted by SystemsLock

Look, scientifically, no it's just not possible.

So, "scientifically", is it possible to violate the Principle of Locality?

If it is (as quantum physics seems to show experimentally) then where lies the impenetrable barrier between two dreaming minds?

If it is not, how does science explain quantum entanglement?

Not saying shared dreaming is possible. In fact, I am skeptical because it seems like it would be pretty easy to prove if it was. But I don't think you have to get too far out from science that is accepted by a majority of physicists to arrive at a theory for how shared dreaming "might" be possible.

"Just not possible" is a mighty strong statement in a world FULL of mystery.

If it is possible, this is the first time in human history we will be able to prove it. Let's start by assuming dream time is linear and corresponds to waking time. In order to prove that shared dreaming is possible, 2 or more dreamers have to be lucid together and recall a specific set of instructions to confirm their encounter in real life. Email would be the most logical choice as a means of confirmation as it is simple to remember and has global reach. I predict the first break through will come between 2 people in different parts of the world that confirm their encounter through an email message from one to the other the next day. While it will only be proven to those involved, the accomplishment should be enough to initiate a serious set of experiments from experts in the field. If I ever get one of these emails from someone out there, Dr. LaBerge is going to have to add me to his pay roll.

Originally Posted by Mario92

*bites tongue*

Must not bring debate into thread. Must not post video...

I shall just say this: demanding evidence is not being close-minded. I just happen to be seeing a lack of very SOLID evidence, I guess. Thus far, all of the first-hand experiments seem to involve communication between the parties, which *may* be able to corrupt the results. What needs to happen is that there needs to be experiments run under laboratory settings with contact between the two parties that shall attempt to share dreams limited, monitored, and heavily regulated. If results can be produced relatively consistently between multiple parties of subjects, then shared dreaming would definitely hold water. As is, though, I'm just...skeptical. I'm not saying it doesn't happen or that it is impossible, I'm just...skeptical.

Well.... as far as I see it. the possibility of having a same dream as someone is possible... well because it's possible... no divination or god involved... I mean.... magic? But other then that it's unlikely. But my point is.... it is super rare... you won't get it by truing to induce it... nor will it pop up very often. if any in your life time.

Originally Posted by Acala

If it is (as quantum physics seems to show experimentally) then where lies the impenetrable barrier between two dreaming minds?

Many would argue the skull.

Originally Posted by Squaddle

Well.... as far as I see it. the possibility of having a same dream as someone is possible... well because it's possible... no divination or god involved... I mean.... magic? But other then that it's unlikely. But my point is.... it is super rare... you won't get it by truing to induce it... nor will it pop up very often. if any in your life time.

Unlikely? People here induce shared dreams all the time, or at least claim to. People who have never shared a dream before in their lives learn the technique...Mzzkc had his first not long ago, as I recall.

Well, during dreams I saw somewhere that the whole brain becomes active. I like to wonder if something activates that allows us to connect with others, maybe psychically, that travels through an electro magnetic field. As if something in the brain activates, during lucid dreams when we are in that strange sort of consciousness. But thats just a theory.

Could be...too early to draw conclusions, as I have stated. But yes, I plan to conduct my own experiments in the field as soon as I become a bit more proficient in lucid dreaming...(be more aware, damn you!)

Originally Posted by Mario92

Many would argue the skull.



Unlikely? People here induce shared dreams all the time, or at least claim to. People who have never shared a dream before in their lives learn the technique...Mzzkc had his first not long ago, as I recall.

I lost my touch on the subject.... ummm.. well it's possible.......... what else....... well okay.. that's cool .. but really? Like 3 people.. same dream... same interaction... same sleep time.. same connectivity and real time?

That'd be awesome... it's like a dream internet lol... course doubt exists in me so it's partly my fault... since I cant imagine being connect to someone wirelessly.... or at least the human mind doesn't work the same way as the internet... or it does?

Originally Posted by Squaddle

I lost my touch on the subject.... ummm.. well it's possible.......... what else....... well okay.. that's cool .. but really? Like 3 people.. same dream... same interaction... same sleep time.. same connectivity and real time?

The idea of typing is that you have time to think about what to say, so you don't need to insert words like "ummm" and long pauses denoted by periods. It would make it much easier for me to understand what you were saying if you were clear with your thoughts - that is, if they're rational enough to be expressed clearly in the first place. Thanks.

I..... THINK that was supposed to be.... like..... performance art......

But to my point.... even Sagan said the jury is still out on the possibility of some level of telepathic connection, however slim the chances might seem. He seemed quite skeptical (of course, being Sagan), but he never did shut the door on the possibility.

And if Sagan says it, it MUST be true, right? (thanks Noogah, for the new smiley! )

Oh.... Carl Jung also seemed quite favorable on the idea, what with synchronicity (NOT the Police album!!) and the Collective Unconscious.

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

But to my point.... even Sagan said the jury is still out on the possibility of some level of telepathic connection, however slim the chances might seem. He seemed quite skeptical (of course, being Sagan), but he never did shut the door on the possibility.

And if Sagan says it, it MUST be true, right? (thanks Noogah, for the new smiley! )

<3 Carl Sagan. :3

Oh.... Carl Jung also seemed quite favorable on the idea, what with synchronicity (NOT the Police album!!) and the Collective Unconscious.

That was a good album...I like Message in a Bottle, myself.

Originally Posted by DarkLucideity

The idea of typing is that you have time to think about what to say, so you don't need to insert words like "ummm" and long pauses denoted by periods. It would make it much easier for me to understand what you were saying if you were clear with your thoughts - that is, if they're rational enough to be expressed clearly in the first place. Thanks.

Okay, it was actually nice, since I didn't notice it, surprisingly.
Nor do I see anyone else typing that way, or at least engage it with the mindset.