Thread: Is sharing dreams possible ?

Originally Posted by SystemsLock

Look, scientifically, no it's just not possible.

So, "scientifically", is it possible to violate the Principle of Locality?

If it is (as quantum physics seems to show experimentally) then where lies the impenetrable barrier between two dreaming minds?

If it is not, how does science explain quantum entanglement?

Not saying shared dreaming is possible. In fact, I am skeptical because it seems like it would be pretty easy to prove if it was. But I don't think you have to get too far out from science that is accepted by a majority of physicists to arrive at a theory for how shared dreaming "might" be possible.

"Just not possible" is a mighty strong statement in a world FULL of mystery.

Originally Posted by Mario92

*bites tongue*

Must not bring debate into thread. Must not post video...

I shall just say this: demanding evidence is not being close-minded. I just happen to be seeing a lack of very SOLID evidence, I guess. Thus far, all of the first-hand experiments seem to involve communication between the parties, which *may* be able to corrupt the results. What needs to happen is that there needs to be experiments run under laboratory settings with contact between the two parties that shall attempt to share dreams limited, monitored, and heavily regulated. If results can be produced relatively consistently between multiple parties of subjects, then shared dreaming would definitely hold water. As is, though, I'm just...skeptical. I'm not saying it doesn't happen or that it is impossible, I'm just...skeptical.

Well.... as far as I see it. the possibility of having a same dream as someone is possible... well because it's possible... no divination or god involved... I mean.... magic? But other then that it's unlikely. But my point is.... it is super rare... you won't get it by truing to induce it... nor will it pop up very often. if any in your life time.

Originally Posted by Acala

If it is (as quantum physics seems to show experimentally) then where lies the impenetrable barrier between two dreaming minds?

Many would argue the skull.

Originally Posted by Squaddle

Well.... as far as I see it. the possibility of having a same dream as someone is possible... well because it's possible... no divination or god involved... I mean.... magic? But other then that it's unlikely. But my point is.... it is super rare... you won't get it by truing to induce it... nor will it pop up very often. if any in your life time.

Unlikely? People here induce shared dreams all the time, or at least claim to. People who have never shared a dream before in their lives learn the technique...Mzzkc had his first not long ago, as I recall.

Well, during dreams I saw somewhere that the whole brain becomes active. I like to wonder if something activates that allows us to connect with others, maybe psychically, that travels through an electro magnetic field. As if something in the brain activates, during lucid dreams when we are in that strange sort of consciousness. But thats just a theory.

Could be...too early to draw conclusions, as I have stated. But yes, I plan to conduct my own experiments in the field as soon as I become a bit more proficient in lucid dreaming...(be more aware, damn you!)

Originally Posted by Mario92

Many would argue the skull.



Unlikely? People here induce shared dreams all the time, or at least claim to. People who have never shared a dream before in their lives learn the technique...Mzzkc had his first not long ago, as I recall.

I lost my touch on the subject.... ummm.. well it's possible.......... what else....... well okay.. that's cool .. but really? Like 3 people.. same dream... same interaction... same sleep time.. same connectivity and real time?

That'd be awesome... it's like a dream internet lol... course doubt exists in me so it's partly my fault... since I cant imagine being connect to someone wirelessly.... or at least the human mind doesn't work the same way as the internet... or it does?

Originally Posted by Squaddle

I lost my touch on the subject.... ummm.. well it's possible.......... what else....... well okay.. that's cool .. but really? Like 3 people.. same dream... same interaction... same sleep time.. same connectivity and real time?

The idea of typing is that you have time to think about what to say, so you don't need to insert words like "ummm" and long pauses denoted by periods. It would make it much easier for me to understand what you were saying if you were clear with your thoughts - that is, if they're rational enough to be expressed clearly in the first place. Thanks.

I..... THINK that was supposed to be.... like..... performance art......

But to my point.... even Sagan said the jury is still out on the possibility of some level of telepathic connection, however slim the chances might seem. He seemed quite skeptical (of course, being Sagan), but he never did shut the door on the possibility.

And if Sagan says it, it MUST be true, right? (thanks Noogah, for the new smiley! )

Oh.... Carl Jung also seemed quite favorable on the idea, what with synchronicity (NOT the Police album!!) and the Collective Unconscious.

Originally Posted by DarkLucideity

The idea of typing is that you have time to think about what to say, so you don't need to insert words like "ummm" and long pauses denoted by periods. It would make it much easier for me to understand what you were saying if you were clear with your thoughts - that is, if they're rational enough to be expressed clearly in the first place. Thanks.

Okay, it was actually nice, since I didn't notice it, surprisingly.
Nor do I see anyone else typing that way, or at least engage it with the mindset.

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

But to my point.... even Sagan said the jury is still out on the possibility of some level of telepathic connection, however slim the chances might seem. He seemed quite skeptical (of course, being Sagan), but he never did shut the door on the possibility.

And if Sagan says it, it MUST be true, right? (thanks Noogah, for the new smiley! )

<3 Carl Sagan. :3

Oh.... Carl Jung also seemed quite favorable on the idea, what with synchronicity (NOT the Police album!!) and the Collective Unconscious.

That was a good album...I like Message in a Bottle, myself.

Originally Posted by Mario92

<3 Carl Sagan. :3



That was a good album...I like Message in a Bottle, myself.

Ha ha yes it was!!! Great album... I like both Synchrinicity songs, and wow, it's been so long Im actually forgetting the names of some of them!! Oh yeah... King of Pain! Is that the album with Secret Journey? Awesome song!!

Anyhow, yeah, the Carls rule!! Sagan, Jung, and Castaneda (well... CarlOS that is!) (bow down before the great and mighty Carls cretins!) (... and yes I include myself as a cretin!)

i have a solution. like the tests stephen laberge describes in EWOLD, eye movement tests could possible prove the existence of shared dreaming. Have two people LDing in the room together. When they see each other, they can do an eye movement pattern simultaneously. Since real eyes move in the direction of dream eyes, if the two people are doing the same eye movements at the same time, then the existence of shared dreaming is proven.

you, sir, are a genius.

Why not try a little experiment whenever you get lucid.

Visit this site http://www.lucidcrossroads.co.uk/ And view all the images/material, remember it.

According to the creators of the site, when many dreamers imagine and experience the same place (lucid crossroads), shared dreams would be possible. I actually am sceptical but willing to try it out for a bit of fun..

Anyone up for it?

Whenever you get lucid, go to the crossroads and let us know what happened.

Even if it doesnt work the place they have created looks pretty cool to be lucid in!

Originally Posted by bewareofit1505

i have a solution. like the tests stephen laberge describes in EWOLD, eye movement tests could possible prove the existence of shared dreaming. Have two people LDing in the room together. When they see each other, they can do an eye movement pattern simultaneously. Since real eyes move in the direction of dream eyes, if the two people are doing the same eye movements at the same time, then the existence of shared dreaming is proven.

...alternately, have two random people claiming to be proficient at shared dreaming set up a meeting place and then isolate them from one another, to prevent "contamination." Give each dreamer a specific set of tasks that the other dreamer doesn't know a thing about. Repeat experiment as necessary. In theory, the shared dreamers should, at some point, (taking into count perceptions and dream recall issues), notice these random tasks, and if shared dreaming is possible, the stories should match up somewhat consistently.

BUT, as WakingNomad said, getting to a lab and volunteering for such an experiment is a royal pain in the ass, so don't get your hopes up anytime soon. We'll just have to settle for our own attempts and proving things to ourselves. I have every intention of sharing a dream myself. If successful, I really don't see myself heading out to a dreaming lab...I see myself sleeping more than ever.

Dang it why won't people go to a lab... I want proof for it, so I would absolutely go to one, in fact, I plan to do the experiment myself for my major, but I can't seem to find someone who is up to being a partner... or they don't have good recall, only 1 out of like 9 tries seem successful so far, need to work on that... but dang be more open to labs people! Hopefully, I will find a person before time runes out <.<

Originally Posted by Walms

Dang it why won't people go to a lab... I want proof for it, so I would absolutely go to one, in fact, I plan to do the experiment myself for my major, but I can't seem to find someone who is up to being a partner... or they don't have good recall, only 1 out of like 9 tries seem successful so far, need to work on that... but dang be more open to labs people! Hopefully, I will find a person before time runes out <.<

See post #74.

Originally Posted by enannanfemma

Why not try a little experiment whenever you get lucid.

Visit this site http://www.lucidcrossroads.co.uk/ And view all the images/material, remember it.

According to the creators of the site, when many dreamers imagine and experience the same place (lucid crossroads), shared dreams would be possible. I actually am sceptical but willing to try it out for a bit of fun..

Anyone up for it?

Whenever you get lucid, go to the crossroads and let us know what happened.

Even if it doesnt work the place they have created looks pretty cool to be lucid in!

Good idea. There's already a thread on it.

Originally Posted by bewareofit1505

i have a solution. like the tests stephen laberge describes in EWOLD, eye movement tests could possible prove the existence of shared dreaming. Have two people LDing in the room together. When they see each other, they can do an eye movement pattern simultaneously. Since real eyes move in the direction of dream eyes, if the two people are doing the same eye movements at the same time, then the existence of shared dreaming is proven.

Good idea. So, who wants to fly me to Montreal?

^I'll need your bank account details and a copy of your passport.

Originally Posted by XeL

^I'll need your bank account details and a copy of your passport.

Seems like when people are bored they tap in on the subject of sharing lucid dreams.

DANCING BANANAS!!!!!!!!!!!

And this is where the conversation goes south for the winter.

Originally Posted by WakingNomad

And this is where the conversation goes south for the winter.

Lol......

Don't spam here! Spam in the WORLD RECORD thread, conveniently located in Senseless Banter! Post pictures, emotes, random messages, and more! Have fun while contributing to a greater cause. Come meet our friendly regulars! Help us to break the World Record!

Originally Posted by Mario92

Don't spam here! Spam in the WORLD RECORD thread, conveniently located in Senseless Banter! Post pictures, emotes, random messages, and more! Have fun while contributing to a greater cause. Come meet our friendly regulars! Help us to break the World Record!

I had no intention of spamming nor joining the fray lol.