Shared Lucid Dreaming Tutorial

hmmmmmmmm I'm sure not nomad


but I think I can understand how nomad feels

In several dreams now, I keep running into this girl. When ever I meet her in a dream, we just go together like peanut butter and jelly, were just the best of friends. But when I look at her face I don't see a friend, I see family. From her eyes, to her nose, she's gotta be from my mom's side of the family. Or more importantly, she looks so much like me, yet she's not.

And the girl in my dreams insists shes not a dream character

I've always felt closer to my moms side of the family. Though I've never lived in the country side of my moms family, I feel a longing to return. Since I was a small child, everyone would jokingly call me by my Great Grandmother's name. They said I sit and eat just like her. My great grandmother was deceased before I was born.

I have zero tolerance for alcohol. I refuse to have alcohol. And hate being around individuals when they are drunk.

No one in my family can figure out why I've always had a hatred for alcohol, since no one abuses it.

But...........there is alcohol abuse in the history of my moms side of the family. The bad kind. My grandmother was abused most of her life by her drunken husband, who I never knew and mostly reject as being family anyways. My great grandmother was alive long enough to see her daughter abused. And lived long enough to see her grandchildren *my mother* abused.

And if you asked me :D where was I in a past life, only one thing pops in my head. Plain and simple, I was a country girl in puerto rico. And if I really am my great grandmother, hell that would explain a lot. (especially why I feel done and over with popping out children!!)

who knows!

all I know is that dream girl is eerily familiar, and I can't put my finger on it

So how exactly can you be sure that you were in a shared dream? Did you recount the dream with her afterwords? I suppose you could lie about something like that but i don't think your that kind of person... It's an amazing prospect then, that your minds are connecting over possibly hundreds or thousands of miles. It also brings about religious questions. This is exactly why I am so interested in lucid dreaming, all the unknowns, all the possibilities...

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Originally Posted by THELUKESTIR

So how exactly can you be sure that you were in a shared dream? Did you recount the dream with her afterwords? I suppose you could lie about something like that but i don't think your that kind of person... It's an amazing prospect then, that your minds are connecting over possibly hundreds or thousands of miles. It also brings about religious questions. This is exactly why I am so interested in lucid dreaming, all the unknowns, all the possibilities...

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Check out the shared dream journal.

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Originally Posted by WakataDreamer

That would be cool... but I never HAD ightmares as a kid...

I had some scary s***, but I just manned up and destroyed it, y'know...

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My dad does/did the same thing.

this sounds very interesting i will be sure to try this

Ok. I'll do a bunch of reading on these kinds of threads and then respond
further, or ask more questions later. This is, to say the least, intriguing.

I have read some stuff about Astral Projection, Remote Viewing, OBE's and
Shared Dreaming (only little about the latter, though) and the concepts
themselves I can grasp. I am always eager to explore my mind and am
willing to 'throw myself in there'. So actually having people here to help
me experiment with it is really great and might hopefully also strengthen
my level of committement.

Anyone wanting to 'get into my head', please feel free to try.

Although I am 'sceptical' of things I haven't experienced myself, I am also
very open minded (also given some books and talks by various quantum
physicists, parapsychologists, eastern philosophers and such) and would love
to see what places my mind can take me. And I don't really think that there
are boundaries between mind(s) and matter and I do think that we actually
exist in more than one place - so this whole subject doesn't really seem too
ludicrous to me. Anyway - I am more than willing to explore.

One question I have - Is it neccessary, or to what degree does it help to
have stable lucidity on a regular basis? Is it important when being visited?
I heard of lucid dreaming a little more than a year ago (hence my joining
date) and went from no dream-recall at all to remembering 3 dreams a
week on average - give or take depending on what else I'm doing at the
time. I have had maybe around 15 lucid dreams, several DEILDS, one WILD,
the rest of them were DILDs. So even though I think I could've done worse,
I am still not what you'd call an experienced dreamer.
And - what 'excercise(s)' would you recommend to enhance the 'astral abilities'?
What should I get a grip on first?

The questions would go for all of the mentioned phenomena of my second paragraph.

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Originally Posted by dajo

One question I have - Is it neccessary, or to what degree does it help to have stable lucidity on a regular basis?

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I have been involved in shared dreams where one or more of the participants were not lucid. The main key is that both people remember the dream and then can record it separately and then compare to find the similarities. So lucidity isn't necessary, although it can be helpful. When lucid that would allow you to make more of a conscious effort to find the person you want to share a dream with. And lucid dreams are usually easier to remember, or at least they are for me. :D

Ok, this makes sense.

How much information do you need about the person you're sharing the dream
with? And I have read here that it's not neccessary to be dreaming simultaniously?

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Originally Posted by dajo

Ok, this makes sense.

How much information do you need about the person you're sharing the dream
with? And I have read here that it's not neccessary to be dreaming simultaniously?

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If you know the person well or have some kind of link with them it is easiest. I have managed to share dreams with people I have only met on the forum, however. What you really need is something to focus on or a common location to focus on so you can find each other in the vast dream world. You're welcome to use the biodome and tower on the moon as they seem to be serving as a beacon to quite a few dreamers. :D For something to focus on, the tower is a tall black tower inspired by Stephen King's Dark Tower series. There is a biodome at the base of the tower filled with beautiful plants, animals, and insects. It contains a stream and a small lake. There is graffiti on the side of the tower that reads, "Welcome to the Moon Tower" in bright yellow paint.

The time thing can be a bit confusing, or at least it is for me. It seems both people don't have to be dreaming at the exact same time, but it is best if the times of the REM sleep are close at least as in during the same night. A few hours difference. One person I talked to brought up the point that if, for example, I saw you in a shared dream tonight, told you about it, but then you decided not to share a dream with me. That would be a paradox of sorts... :? If you don't believe time travel is possible, you would have to be dreaming at the same time as your dream partner since the time travel part could be blocked by disbelief. My spirit guide, Q, has tried to explain this time travel stuff to me repeatedly but I just keep getting a headache... :(

Thank you very much!

I have come across said moonbase in one of the threads here.
Is it possible for me to do something in order for others to see?
One of the users wanted to write something in graffity on the wall,
if I remember correctly - is that why it is there now?

I couldn't really wrap myself around 'time' either yet, but it is sure
as hell not ticking away linearly as a clock does. And if it works in
a way that we exist in different times simultaniously also,.. that
would not really be much of a paradox anymore. But I don't think
that's really 'comprehensible' for us anyway, since the concept of
time does have some importance for our survival here :D
But I don't really know what I believe here. So mind is open.

Sorry for all the questions. I'm sure you guys have answered them
plenty of times here already. I'll do more DV-Research :D

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Originally Posted by dajo

Thank you very much!

I have come across said moonbase in one of the threads here.
Is it possible for me to do something in order for others to see?
One of the users wanted to write something in graffity on the wall,
if I remember correctly - is that why it is there now?

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Asking questions is the only way to get information! :D And yes, one of the visitors left that graffiti on the moon tower. Another visitor, Walms I believe, planted a flower in the biodome with his name on the petals. You can add something if you want. Paint graffiti, plant a distinctive plant or tree, create a building. If you can imagine it, you can do it. And if it becomes a permanant addition then other dream visitors will see what you made! :D Or you can go to the city of Nowhere (also on the moon) which Nomad created and add your own personal touch there. The possibilities are endless. :D

Well if you ever find loafs of bread scattered around the area you know I've been there.

:D

I've had a few dreams, didn't manage to become lucid. maybe tonight :)

I am extreeeemely interested. I'm absolutely convinced that I've had a shared dream once before with someone. However I'm new here and I'll need some practice but pm me :)

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Originally Posted by Raven Knight

:D For something to focus on, the tower is a tall black tower inspired by Stephen King's Dark Tower series. There is a biodome at the base of the tower filled with beautiful plants, animals, and insects. It contains a stream and a small lake. There is graffiti on the side of the tower that reads, "Welcome to the Moon Tower" in bright yellow paint.
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you mean theres not just one dead weed? :D

thank you, that's something more concrete to focus on

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Originally Posted by dajo

I couldn't really wrap myself around 'time' either yet, but it is sure
as hell not ticking away linearly as a clock does. And if it works in
a way that we exist in different times simultaniously also,.. that
would not really be much of a paradox anymore. But I don't think
that's really 'comprehensible' for us anyway, since the concept of
time does have some importance for our survival here :D
But I don't really know what I believe here. So mind is open.

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Our conception of time is very wrong. For instance things that are simultaneous from the viewpoint of some observers will not be simultaneous, if the two groups are in relative motion. And time will progress more slowly for observers in motion than for stationary observers, making traveling to the future possible. The effects of these laws are very tiny in everyday life though.
I'm not saying these laws account for the weirdness that supposedly happens in dreams, I'm just saying that you shouldn't trust your intuition when it comes to time.

Anyway I'm very enthusiastic about shared dreaming albeit skeptical. I feel like I need to increase my LD skills first though. I might go to the moon in my next LD, see what I can find. I'll leave something there for you all.

Interesting post. Perhaps I'll try to visit the moon with you guys. I will say, though, you've got guts for putting yourself out there like that. Also, I figure I should add when you say you have a possible SD with someone but they don't remember it, it is possible that they haven't dreamed it yet. I'm sure that The Cusp has heard this from me before, but I've had deferred SD with almost a decade between my dream and that of the other participant. I would explore more, but my lucidity and recall at the moment is wretched.

I am starting to lose hope that this is possible.
WakingNomad, you have said you have seen someone that you believe is me at least twice now but I have no recollection at all, even during the nights were I remember things about my dream. What is going on here?

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Originally Posted by Loaf

I am starting to lose hope that this is possible.
WakingNomad, you have said you have seen someone that you believe is me at least twice now but I have no recollection at all, even during the nights were I remember things about my dream. What is going on here?

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I'm kinda interested in what the answer Nomad has to this is as well, but I guess I'll repeat myself here. It might be years before you have those dreams if what I've experienced holds true. Shared dreams don't necessarily take place during the same night. I've had one that took place years apart, almost a decade.

If that was true it would make sense, considering some of the things he said I did are things I've only recently started to do.

I'd like to do shared dreaming. Anybody willing to let me into your mind?:D

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Originally Posted by Loaf

If that was true it would make sense, considering some of the things he said I did are things I've only recently started to do.

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Raven has has dreams of me that I don't remember. We had a dream of Walms and mowglycdb that the don't remember.

We went on a training mission in team combat. You have two basic powerful energy moves. One is a focused blast, the other one is a hemisphere. Red energy.

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Originally Posted by Fabio-the-dreamer

I'd like to do shared dreaming. Anybody willing to let me into your mind?:D

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Yes.

http://spimission.webs.com/emoticon/spi_mad.gif Man. Last week ago, I read some of Nomad's experiences and they made me insane. Like really audacious and mad motivated about lucid dreaming. The night after I finally got my first WILD. ...So you guys aren't going to have fun without me. Currently I'm WILDing at a smooth rate and soon I'll find my way to dreamshare with you guys. WakingNomad and Raven Knight, you guys inspired me to do really get into it. Save a good spot for me in your adventures.

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Originally Posted by Spi

http://spimission.webs.com/emoticon/spi_mad.gif Man. Last week ago, I read some of Nomad's experiences and they made me insane. Like really audacious and mad motivated about lucid dreaming. The night after I finally got my first WILD. ...So you guys aren't going to have fun without me. Currently I'm WILDing at a smooth rate and soon I'll find my way to dreamshare with you guys. WakingNomad and Raven Knight, you guys inspired me to do really get into it. Save a good spot for me in your adventures.

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Awesome man, looking forward to it.

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Originally Posted by WakingNomad

Yes.

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Next time I'm lucid, POW! Straight to the moon.