Thread: Breaking the Fear Barrier: My first Astral Projection

Congratulations!

I practiced astral projection and remote viewing for hours and hours, sometimes hours and hours in one day, for about a year straight. I quit doing it because I thought it could possibly be evil. Now I realize it's part of human existence.

I do not do it much anymore, because of all the practice and time it takes, and also, I think because I did it so much, my spirit was floating halfway out of my body for quite a few years.

I used to go try to go up and out (up to the cosmos, and out of my body) to gain spiritual elightenment and understanding. More recently, I go down and in (ground down to the earth, and in to myself.)

I wanted to find wisdom and guidance externally, but we are all Buddha, therefore everything you need lies within.

The reason I do lucid dreaming a lot instead of astral projection is I am trying to learn about myself, and commune with my subconscious which I believe is connected to the the collective subconscious of mankind. I have actually had lucid dreams and communicated with spirit guides that I first met on the astral plane.

Fear. Astral projection definitely scared me, even after I was doing it for a year. But, it still fascinated me. Mainly it scared me because of the confusion, but also things that were revealed to me. Another thing that bothered me, is I always felt like I was about to float away.

If you are afraid, I suggest meeting your spirit guides on the astral plane. Have you done this yet?

It sounds to me like you were astrally projecting yourself on to the physical plane. A lot of the fear came from trying to physically interact with your environment or to behave as a physical being and not being able to. When you astrally project on to the physical plane, you are like a ghost. People may even see you, and think you are a ghost.

I used to try to communicate with people when I projected, but they usually couldn't hear me. Sometimes they would turn their head, and look right at me and squint, then shake their head and go back to work. Sometimes they would actually say to me telepathically, "I am too busy right now to deal with spirits. Go away, please."

Ask your spirit guides to protect you and give you a sense of calm during the day, and before, during, and after.

If you are doing astral projection, it's even more important to ground yourself. Imagine energy coming up from the earth into your feet, and up through your whole body. Feel your feet pressing down into the earth when you stand. When you meditate in preparation, go in to yourself, and get centered.

Maybe next time try and projecting yourself on to the astral plane instead of the physical plane, and you won't feel so disoriented. It will feel more natural. Also, projecting myself indoors has always increased my anxiety and dislike for the manmade, so maybe if you project yourself to the physical plane again, go outdoors? I went to Mars once, that was an intense experience.

What are your reasons for doing astral projection? what are your goals you hope to achieve with it?

Another note, if you ever feel yourself floating away during the day, just reel the silver cord in like a fishing reel, and visualize roots growing out from your feet down into the earth.

Thanks for the reply

I have not yet managed to meet with my guides although it is something I have been wanting to achieve. As for my reasons there are many really, although central to them all is the desire to experience that state of consciousness, to know that I can exist outside of my body and to be able to control the experience. I am also interested in lucid dreaming for similar reasons.

So i guess my overall goal is to be able to gain the ability to Astral Project or Lucid Dream at will, or at least with a high success rate. With many other things i'd like to try using both methods.

I don't know much about astral projecting, but this was a great read! I would've probably had a heart attack if I experienced that kind of stuff.

Nice man, that is awesome. I hope that you have more obe's, and tell us more about your experiences when you have them.

Well the worst part of anything is the unknown element of doing something for the first time, with that out of the way the fear wont be as bad in the future.

Took a long time for me to get to that stage though and I have kept it in my focus for a long time despite many unsucessful attempts so it has taken alot of dedication and I really appreciate the experience regardless of content, and it wasn't all negative

I hope I have more in the near future and will share my experiences here when I do

did you feel a great vibration level in your body? , sorta happens to me , but I don't know if I'm close to doing a OBE

Especificly I concentrate in my body and suddenly it starts vibrating and getting deeper and I start getting the feeling I'm loosing contact with my surroundings ... does that mean anything?

Originally Posted by Animus

Thanks for the reply

I have not yet managed to meet with my guides although it is something I have been wanting to achieve. As for my reasons there are many really, although central to them all is the desire to experience that state of consciousness, to know that I can exist outside of my body and to be able to control the experience. I am also interested in lucid dreaming for similar reasons.

You may find that your guides won't want to meet with you until you drop the mind-altering substances like cannabis. I doubt they object to B-vitamins though. So much of what people are trying to do is actually done at your guides' timing when they think you're ready, and drugs won't get you what I think you might be looking for. You might also want to think about *why* you want to meet them. Is it to learn and work with them to become more whole, or do you expect them to be someone you can boss around? I'm serious, I've met people who expect that. It's not what it's like though. A need to control everything may actually also get in the way. I've never tried to control things, and have some pretty cool experiences, and they *teach* me something, always, they're never just amusement park rides. Well, just some thoughts...

Originally Posted by IrisRavenstar

You may find that your guides won't want to meet with you until you drop the mind-altering substances like cannabis.

That's a new one to me. You think guides are against "drugs"?

Congratulations!

Originally Posted by Xetrov

That's a new one to me. You think guides are against "drugs"?

Haha, yeah that sounds pretty silly to me. I do think that being stoned factored in to making your experience terrifying though, weed can create it's own paranoia, but if you're already a little freaked out it makes it a lot worse.

Originally Posted by Xetrov

That's a new one to me. You think guides are against "drugs"?

Yes, and anything else we do that is harmful to ourselves or others.

Originally Posted by tjg92

Haha, yeah that sounds pretty silly to me. I do think that being stoned factored in to making your experience terrifying though, weed can create it's own paranoia, but if you're already a little freaked out it makes it a lot worse.

Yes, drugs bring out the dark side of things, and the tricksters., not your true guides.

My dually diagnosed drug addicted middle son, age 36, who also has drug-induced schizophrenia, hears voices telling him to hurt himself, or making him paranoid about really stupid stuff, and asking doctors if aliens put transmitters in his teeth. He's only schizophrenic when he's using, not during the rare times he stays off the stuff. Drugs are not good for people. Really. Bad mojo. They have a highly negative impact on both dreams and waking life. The longer a person is on them, the worse it gets, and the real addict like my son, gets stuck emotionally and psychologically at the age he was when he started, which is about fourteen. Sadly. Do you want to be 36 and still acting 14? Still expecting your parents to be responsible for you, and having fits when they refuse? Finding living on the streets or in jail preferable to working for a living? Or, you could take overdose of cocaine and die, like my brother did, because he couldn't face his bone cancer.

Wake up!

That really sucks, Iris. I've heard a lot of stories like that, they're depressing. It kind of reminds me of A Scanner Darkly (one of my favorite movies, haven't ever read the book).

While I understand where you're coming from, your son is in the minority. Cannabis works really well for some people, and does that to others. Look at all the medical marijuana users who really need it. It has a good and a bad side, and most people only get to see one side or the other instead of both. Psychedelics like weed (it's a little psychedelic), LSD, and others, are really mind bending. They bring out stuff buried deep in your mind, for instance: if you're creative, you can get more creative, if you're depressed, you can get more depressed, like eating? oh boy are you gonna eat, have some ghosts from the past buried under the surface? prepare to face them, and if you're lazy, you'll get way lazier. Of course, if you have some kind of psychosis buried under the surface, that gets drawn out too.

Take me for example, I had some anxiety issues I didn't really know I had. They were always there but I hadn't realized it. I started smoking pot and every time I would have an anxiety attack. I quit smoking, but upon doing some research, I found out that only happens to people who already have anxiety. So, I go to therapy, read a bunch of books, and do a lot of thinking, and BAM, anxiety gone. Now I can smoke whenever, although the nice thing is that, for me, whenever I'm smoking too much I feel bad whenever I get high and thus stop smoking.

But it effects everyone differently. I feel sorry for you and your son, I have relatives who messed their lives up considerably with drugs (I'm pretty sure one of my uncles smokes meth), so I can relate. Still, Carl Sagan smoked a lot of weed, it worked out pretty well for him Anyway, I don't advise anyone does ANY drugs, including OTC and prescription ones, until they have researched them thoroughly. Don't even drink coffee until you research caffiene! Not that caffiene is that bad, it's fairly safe, but if you're getting addicted to something you had better read up on it first, you know?

But anyway WE'RE REALLY OFF TOPIC NOW haha. The point is, don't do drugs while you Astral Project if you can't even do it sober. And there's no real reason to do it all, you're already traveling outside you're body, that's trippy enough, I think.

I itch alot, especially when i am calm so i don't do meditation. I tried it for 3 days for 20 minutes a day a few years ago. I also tried to slow down my heart rate, and man...i almost made it completly stop it seemed like. The 2nd and 3rd day meditating while i was listening to relaxing music and some type of chick telling us about the journey we are going on i had some type of feeling in my head like i was wanting to explode or something, felt like my head was getting lighter. No idea what that was, but i have read it can take years to OBE or whatever...uhhh, no thank you!

I don't meditate, i don't lucid dream. I guess i am here just to read other peoples expieriences and bullshit around.

I used to have a dream journal that lasted about 5 days, i had some of the most amazing dreams in those days, it lasted a few weeks after, but now my dreams are just meh...normal dull dreams.

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

I itch alot, especially when i am calm so i don't do meditation.

I used to get itchy a lot as well as soon I started meditating.

That itching is just an illusion. Meditation at heart is about silencing your thoughts and focusing your attention, whether you focus on breathing or on chakras, on a candle, whatever. It doesn't matter what you focus on, as long as you can hold your attention on your target without wavering.

Everything requires your attention to exist, so if you're itchy, you're not focused right. Be clear on your area of focus before you start.

Congratulations Animus.

I had a half ass obe it was unexpected and i was so full of fear and i wasn't able to get up. I had a strange tingly feeling through my whole body