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      Dealing with a suspected dream walker

      I read about dream walkers/stalkers and the idea fascinated me so I started paying attention to all the characters in my dreams trying to identify one. To this day theres only one character I would suspect of being a dream walker. This skinny 7 foot maniac with red hair and a sun hat was menacing me in my dreams. Admittedly I started it when I decided to punch him for no reason as he was getting out of a car but my god this dream character was nuts. I was in a supermarket one dream rounding up stuff I knew I'd never get to eat then this maniac comes in on his bicycle and started throwing bricks at me.

      I had lots of encounters with this Carrot Top looking character and he would literally kick the crap outta me every dream. I did get one up on him when I blew him away with a shotgun though. Last I saw of him. I he was a dream stalker I'd like to meet the guy in real life so he could teach me some tricks and we could have a few giggles about our friendly encounters.

      Anyhow I reckon walkers are much tougher than dream characters so I wonder if you could find a dream stalker by systematically punching every dream character you see. Then again its kinda crazy thinking that some 7 foot red headed guy who beat the shit outta me every dream I saw him in was actually a real person who somehow slipped into my dream.

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      If you really want to know for sure, point your little finger at him and declare that you want to see his energy. Intend that you want to see it's energy body. If it dissolves into mist or morphs something smaller, it's just a DC. If you actually see some kind of energy, then you got company. Never tried it on a suspect DC, but it vaporizes everything else, I guarantee it or your money back. Try it, seriously. (Sometimes nothing happens, but what dream skill doesn't fail randomly?)

      But aside from that, from my shared dreaming experiences, and accounts of others, stuff like hair changes very often in a shared dream. The person's hair you are dreaming about will change quite frequently, and you could see any hairstyle they've had in their entire lives.

      If there is a person coming into your dreams and kicking your ass, then you gotta admit they've got some skills, and you could look for signs of that. Pay attention to what that suspect DC's focus is on. If he was a lucid dreamer, wouldn't give a damn about the other DC or the plot unless it suited his needs.

      Alternatively you could look for signs of weakness. If he's human, nobody's perfect. Does that DC ever get distracted by random things in the dream and forget about you? Lucidity doesn't last forever. I had one where the invincible guy who had been chasing me for 20 minutes suddenly became enthralled by some kind of ancient temple cave thing. I was like, WTF?, I'm over here!

      But that's how you beat them. In one battle, my opponent was just destroying everything. So I gave him something to destroy. I summoned this humongous stone statue out of the ground, right in front of his advancing gargoyle creatures, and he just started tearing the thing apart like he did every thing else. But it was so big and rock solid, it was taking him a long time to destroy it. While he was busy destroying my statue, I wandered off, sat under a tree to watch him for a bit, then left.

      That's how you win a dream battle. If you think it has to do with how tough and bad ass you are, you're just not even playing the same game and don't stand a chance.

      When things go really bad in my dreams, I instinctively retreat to the river in my hometown and jump in the rapids, which most sane people would never do, and it usually foils most of my opponents. Gives me a huge advantage anyways. In one early NS encounter, I was on the run (while lucid, which for me is a last resort), and retreated by diving into one of the most violent set of rapids. The NS complimented me before he followed me in, and that was that last I saw of him for that night. It was his compliment that made me realize what an overwhelming effect those white water rapids have on the senses when your are in them, which gave me my first clue to what dream control was really about.

      If you think it was some kind of NS, then look at those dreams from a tactical view to see where you went wrong. Specifically at what he did right, since to be NS, you gotta know what you're doing. Just look at what you were both paying attention to, and you will probably see that you were paying attention to what he wanted you to.
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      It sounds like great fun battling these dream walkers. You obviously have way more skills than me. All I can do is fly. I'd love to be able to summon things. I still haven't got over the waking up hurdle. The dream fades on me all the time so I have to make the best of my time in a LD. This DC didn't use any superhuman skills on me he fought like a regular human by throwing bricks and food tins at me. In a fist fight he was real skillful he'd dodge nearly every punch I threw.

      I got him in the end though. Good old LD shotgun. He didn't see that one coming. In fact I have no idea how I managed to get the shotgun it just appeared in my hands.

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      sounds like you summoned it to me.
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      In Russian LD tradition we divide all DCs into two big categories: regular (which we call sprites (from sprite in computer animation) which are easily controllable by dreamer and all other suspicious ones - which usually called as "inorganic beings", but I call them "autonomous" as it this term is rather neutral and equally suited by anyone, be he skeptic, mystic, occultist or otherwise.

      There are quite a few categories of this autonomous beings, and it would be unwise to treat any of autonomous DC as possible dreamwalker/nightstalker even if you believe this, because conception of dreamwalking imply that DW or NS are lucid dreamer operating from our world during sleep. "Shadow beings", force/fear-emanating entities, DCs which are trying to touch you which lead to losing/degrading lucidity are most probably not.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ray View Post
      sounds like you summoned it to me.

      Agreed. If you are looking for it, it appears...your imagination.

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      Quote Originally Posted by guitarboy View Post
      Agreed. If you are looking for it, it appears...your imagination.
      this explains so many things...Jung could never have imagined, or else he would have seen it, that fool.

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