5000 year old WILD technique. Very easy, and very effective.

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06-01-2009, 10:48 PM
Xetrov

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Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

This is a 5000 year old tantra technique, as the story goes, one of the 112 meditations given by Shiva to his consort Parvati.

A dreamer168, click that link, its a description given by Osho of the technique.
06-02-2009, 01:57 AM
A dreamer168

Thanks, I think that feeling the heart filled with prana will be better than just focusing on my third eye.

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That is what you mean Right?
06-03-2009, 11:04 AM
Xetrov

Yes I followed it as Osho explains, focus awareness on 3rd eye and breathing in/out. It works really calming, and for me also brought a positive feeling (energy?) when I imagined the so called "prana" to enter with the breath and flow into my heart chakra. Of course I was also thinking that I wanted a LD that night (for skeptics, yeah I was all imagining this, there's no proof nor will I give it, and Im not delusional. I just have a big imagination).
06-03-2009, 10:50 PM
A dreamer168

So you want energy to flow into the heart chakra, with the third eye as a conduit?
06-04-2009, 11:44 AM
Xetrov

I suggest you read carefully what's written there, and go try it. I guess you could call it like you said though, that it's a kind of conduit.
06-06-2009, 01:01 AM
A dreamer168

How does this get you an LD?

Also, do I need to roll my eyes up?

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Xetrov, Why don't you tell me how you do the technique in steps?

The reason for this is the language Osho uses is confusing to me.

NVM, I get it. "Focusing conscious awareness on it" means that nothing else matters to you but that feeling of energy

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I still don't see how this gets you into a LD though
06-09-2009, 11:45 AM
bushi

Practice the technique over and over before falling asleep, everytime you are trying to fall asleep.

That's all you need to know.
06-09-2009, 06:24 PM
Plazz

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Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

Yeah, but you can close it anytime you want. Watching TV or computer for example closes it. That's why many people have trouble lucid dreaming. Once you get your third eye back under control, you can go into a WILD anytime, anywhere.

Watching TV is for the third eye like riding a wheelchair for your legs. Your third eye got lazy, and it might take a while to re-activate it back to it's natural state, unless you stop watching TV/computer, but this is not necessairy. Instead of meditating on it, you can simply hold your attention on your third eye during daily activities. No effort required!

What about the TV and computer causes this closing of the third eye to occur?
The waves radiating off of it? If so, we must find a new technology for out knowledge/communication boxes.
06-10-2009, 08:07 PM
bigCHEESE77

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Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

I move my attention to the back of my head, right where my head joins my neck. It seems to be the magic spot for me. I also hold my consciousness here while doing reality check type awareness excercises throughout the day.

How do you move your attention to one spot or move your consciousness to one spot?
06-14-2009, 11:25 PM
kr3wskater

You just focus on it, put all of your awareness into that one spot as if you were meditating on it.
06-16-2009, 04:07 PM
ChaybaChayba

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Originally Posted by Plazz

What about the TV and computer causes this closing of the third eye to occur?
The waves radiating off of it? If so, we must find a new technology for out knowledge/communication boxes.

Nah not radiation or anything, I think it's because when I watch TV too much or sit behind the computer too much I don't use my imagination anymore. For me there's a great chance in lucidity when I stop watching TV or spent less time on the computer.
06-16-2009, 04:26 PM
DeathCell

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Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

Nah not radiation or anything, I think it's because when I watch TV too much or sit behind the computer too much I don't use my imagination anymore. For me there's a great chance in lucidity when I stop watching TV or spent less time on the computer.

TV is not the problem, but an over watching and obsession with it.

Our ancestors kept their imaginations rolling in stories, novels, etc... not staring at a screen.
06-16-2009, 07:04 PM
spaceexplorer

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Originally Posted by DeathCell

TV is not the problem, but an over watching and obsession with it.

Our ancestors kept their imaginations rolling in stories, novels, etc... not staring at a screen.

How is staring at a fire being told a story any different from staring at a screen... that is telling you a story?
06-17-2009, 01:02 PM
DeathCell

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Originally Posted by spaceexplorer

How is staring at a fire being told a story any different from staring at a screen... that is telling you a story?

I have to explain this to you?

Stories in front of camp fires allow your imagination to form the pictures, instead of mindlessly looking at what is being given to you.

People in front of camp fires used to take turns sharing and making up stories, allowing everyone a chance to partake in the festivities.

I don't even know why I have to explain the differences between a Television and camp fire stories...
06-18-2009, 10:57 AM
spaceexplorer

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Originally Posted by DeathCell

I have to explain this to you?

Stories in front of camp fires allow your imagination to form the pictures, instead of mindlessly looking at what is being given to you.

People in front of camp fires used to take turns sharing and making up stories, allowing everyone a chance to partake in the festivities.

I don't even know why I have to explain the differences between a Television and camp fire stories...

So is theatre a bad thing too?
And radio?
06-18-2009, 07:36 PM
DeathCell

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Originally Posted by spaceexplorer

So is theatre a bad thing too?
And radio?

Did I say television was a bad thing?

Moderation and obsession.

Per usual, you don't take the time to read what I say, and instead insinuate something I never said.

Please refer to post #290
06-21-2009, 04:14 PM
Denny22

It's odd. Whenever I get into a deep relaxed state my conscious goes to my forehead or third eye area. When I focus on it I started to almost get pulled into it. It's hard to explain. :/
06-21-2009, 05:58 PM
debussy

Ancient meditation techniques, Wikipedia articles on DMT and anatomic pictures of the brain equals some serious speculations.
06-23-2009, 04:07 AM
Busher94

Wait. Did you guys say that dreams CAN occur in non REM sleep? So you could do it anytime?
06-24-2009, 01:45 AM
ChaybaChayba

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Originally Posted by Busher94

Wait. Did you guys say that dreams CAN occur in non REM sleep? So you could do it anytime?

Yup, in my experience they can occur anytime.
06-24-2009, 02:33 AM
Busher94

Interesting... does anyone know any hypnosis or techniques to get you to fall asleep? Because I can really only fall asleep when exhausted or after listening to my ipod in bed until I AM exhausted...
06-24-2009, 08:18 PM
A dreamer168

Can I do this at the beginning of night time?
06-24-2009, 08:23 PM
Phrisco

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Originally Posted by A dreamer168

Can I do this at the beginning of night time?

You could try doing that. If that fails for a few times then do it using WBTB.
06-29-2009, 01:22 AM
ethan_hines

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Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

I recently got into meditation, and discovered that you could use it to WILD! I thought I might share it with you guys, because this technique is the easiest one and most effective one I have encountered. The meditation technique I use to WILD is the following:

I close my eyes, and place my attention only on the center of my forehead (between my eyebrows) and on my breath. That's it.

Why does it work? Because that is where the pineal gland, the third eye, the minds eye is located. By imagining sensations at that location, you directly stimulate it. The pineal gland is the gland that secretes melatonin, which is one of the hormones responsible for dreaming. You can increase stimulation the better you can concentrate on it and the better you can induce sensations or vibrations in that area. The better your imagination, the more focussed your mind, and the less you keep talking to yourself inside your head all the time, the better this technique works. The longer you use this technique, the faster you will get into a WILD. It's like a magic button you need to push to get into dreamland.

This is a 5000 year old tantra technique, as the story goes, one of the 112 meditations given by Shiva to his consort Parvati. Still works like a charm, and it's the easiest WILD technique out there IMO. This one directly induces dreaming by stimulating the gland that secretes the dreaming hormones. I also already managed to go into dreaming during meditation without laying down, all I need to do is close my eyes and concentrate for a while. The litteral translation of the tantra technique is the following:

Hope this helps!

I imagine you have to be in a highly relaxed state (body asleep/mind awake) before concentrating on your pinal gland/centre of your mind right?
06-29-2009, 01:29 AM
ethan_hines

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Originally Posted by Busher94

Interesting... does anyone know any hypnosis or techniques to get you to fall asleep? Because I can really only fall asleep when exhausted or after listening to my ipod in bed until I AM exhausted...

I learned a great trick from Luminosity 101, essentially you lie down with your hands above your head till your relatively relaxed, then place them down by your side, wait till you get this uncanny urge to roll over, ignore the urge till it plateaus then roll over when you feel like it and don't move anymore and poof you're unconscious. It's called the STOP-DROP-and-ROLL method I highly recommend it

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