Thread: Supernatural?

Astral Projection, Psychokinesis, Telepathy, Precognition, all of these abilities are referred to as "Supernatural". But are they really? Or are they perfectly natural skills or abilities that we have from birth that we forget as we get older because we do not practice using them or because of the society that we live?

Discuss.

Seeing as we only use something like 10% of our brain's capacity, I personally believe that all of the above are completely possible. What's debatable is the plausibility.

I already have traces of telepathy and precognition. So do others that I know. People bend spoons with their minds. I've flipped over a Tarot card with my awareness before (it was accidental, any such attempts since have not been fruitful). I certainly believe that we have all sorts of untapped natural abilities within our DNA. I also think it's only a matter of time (though maybe a very long time) before such abilities are commonplace. Our brains however are really dampened. Our brain's processing capability is directly proportional to the amount of oxygen reaching the brain. That's why you can get a "high" from breathing 100% oxygen. In ancient times people used to trepan their skulls to allow the Gods to enter- aka, allow oxygen to reach the surface of the brain directly, thus accelerating the processing power- and its said that these people had telekinetic abilities and such. Chances are though that most people don't want holes in their head, and our lungs can only take in so much oxygen, even if it is 100% pure. So while I'm very sure that our imagination is the only limit to our abilities, we have to overcome our clumsy physicality and neurons before we can really explore the possibilties.

Actually it's only 10% of our brains which can process information in the first place, the other 90% is connective tissue and stuff which just wouldn't be used, so although you could say we use 10% of our brains we're using 100% of what we actually have.
If I can be bothered to edit and add in a reference I will.

Well that was quick..
http://www.time-etc.com/2007/06/ten-...out-brain.html
Google. brain myths. first result.

Double edit: list of other pages stating this fact (I think I originally read it in a psychology textbook)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...hs+10%25&meta=

Well, seeing how those have no scientific link to being a natural process, I suppose its correct to call them "supernatural"

no scientific link that they have found yet.

The Earth Is Flat! We Are The Center Of The Universe!!!!

And to think the majority of the population thought that was right...

Originally Posted by Fableflame

no scientific link that they have found yet.

Oh indeed, tough as long as they don't find it, "supernatural" will be correct, or so I think lol

Originally Posted by Balestar

Actually it's only 10% of our brains which can process information in the first place, the other 90% is connective tissue and stuff which just wouldn't be used, so although you could say we use 10% of our brains we're using 100% of what we actually have.

I heard that we only use 10% of our MEMORY. I could be wrong, but I was corrected on that before.

IMO, they are natural skills blocked by the rational mind that keeps on chatting on and on inside your head. Silence your mind, and your natural abilities will come back. Silencing the inner voice is one of the hardest things, if not the hardest thing, you will ever try to achieve in your life, but it is definately worth it. It's your ego, your self-importance, your self-pity that is the cause of the chattering... shatter the mirror of self-reflection and some really cool stuff will happen.. theres no point in believing, this is something you have to see with your own eyes.

i did hear a while ago that u have phsycic abilities when u are young and if u practice them and meditate starting when you are young you can be phsycic forever.

Originally Posted by Ralael

I already have traces of telepathy and precognition. So do others that I know. People bend spoons with their minds. I've flipped over a Tarot card with my awareness before (it was accidental, any such attempts since have not been fruitful). I certainly believe that we have all sorts of untapped natural abilities within our DNA. I also think it's only a matter of time (though maybe a very long time) before such abilities are commonplace. Our brains however are really dampened. Our brain's processing capability is directly proportional to the amount of oxygen reaching the brain. That's why you can get a "high" from breathing 100% oxygen. In ancient times people used to trepan their skulls to allow the Gods to enter- aka, allow oxygen to reach the surface of the brain directly, thus accelerating the processing power- and its said that these people had telekinetic abilities and such. Chances are though that most people don't want holes in their head, and our lungs can only take in so much oxygen, even if it is 100% pure. So while I'm very sure that our imagination is the only limit to our abilities, we have to overcome our clumsy physicality and neurons before we can really explore the possibilties.

I'm pretty sure pure oxygen would kill us if breathed in for too long. That's what I learned in biology, anyway.

And holes in your head? Sounds painful. Not saying it's not true (I really have no idea), but wouldn't that leave your delicate brain exposed to the elements & bacteria/infection?
Interesting concept, though.


@DeathCell - There are other reasons why asylums aren't as full as they used to be, but one is because they used to put autistic and mentally retarded people in there. They didn't understand those conditions yet, so they just threw them in with every other social deviant.


One thing I've often wondered is why animals seem to have a sixth sense while we, their intellectual superiors, do not. Did we evolve to the point where we don't need it? (Although it would still be pretty useful.) Or maybe it's an instinct like fight-or-flight. Could it also be because nobody is going to tell a dog that it can't sense ghosts?

I hate being told what I can or cannot do. If I want to fly, let me learn for myself that I can't. We tell kids that Santa is real, but we can't (or don't) even suggest the endless possibilities of the mind? I'm 18, but I am forever a kid at heart. I don't believe in unicorns, but I keep my mind open to possibilities. I believe that psionics are possible (never had much success with it), and from my own experience I believe in astral projection. When it's happening, I know with my entire being that it's real. It's only when I awake and reality comes back that I start to question it. Even if APing isn't real, it still makes for some wicked awesome LDs. :]

Originally Posted by Wolfsbane

One thing I've often wondered is why animals seem to have a sixth sense while we, their intellectual superiors, do not. Did we evolve to the point where we don't need it? (Although it would still be pretty useful.) Or maybe it's an instinct like fight-or-flight. Could it also be because nobody is going to tell a dog that it can't sense ghosts?

It's because their sixth sense is never kept down by society, exactly.

I can sense things, I've known things before they happen.. It is possible.


Except in the eyes of certain people, too bad they're wrong..

Originally Posted by DeathCell

It's because their sixth sense is never kept down by society, exactly.

I can sense things, I've known things before they happen.. It is possible.


Except in the eyes of certain people, too bad they're wrong..

Originally Posted by Wolfsbane

I hate being told what I can or cannot do. If I want to fly, let me learn for myself that I can't.

Ouch! Just be sure to wear a helmet

I believe everything younger people say over the internet.
Is that natural? or is it...

SUPER natural?

Originally Posted by Threadbreaker

I believe everything younger people say over the internet.
Is that natural? or is it...

SUPER natural?

How about a serious reply or none at all?

Originally Posted by Threadbreaker

I believe everything younger people say over the internet.
Is that natural? or is it...

SUPER natural?

The funniest thing with a post like that you're probably about 14.

The existence of 'supernatural' events is questionable. First of all, anything that occurs in this world is natural because it's within the boundaries of our physical laws. People can be convinced about 'supernatural' occurences all they want, but since none of it is reasonable or logical they will never be able to provide an explanation. When science cannot provide an answer it is because our scientific understanding is not complete. The generally accepted scientific theories in conflic with 'supernatural' phenomena have been proven and can hardly be rejected. Dreams are physical too; a composite of the electrical impulses inside our neural networks, that are based on every day experiences and our past memories. It is very likely for some events to be 'predicted' by our dreams, however technically these visions have no correlation to what is actually going to happen. It seems many people are striving to prove some 'supernatural' powers that dreams posses, rather than searching for the actual truth. Because dreams appear to be so abstract, they can easily be misinterpreted. Again, human intuition about upcoming events has a realistic basis, 'supernatural' fortune telling does not. People cannot bend spoons with their minds, but many are clever enough to convince themselves otherwise. To understand our own limits and abilities, and to have the courage to accept what we find to be true is the least we as a people should do.

Could you imagine what a nightmare it would be if all little kids had access to telepathy and psychokinesis? Preschool teacher would become the most dangerous job on the planet.

Why would you assume that we have these abilities when we are young, but lose them as we age?

I had a wierd moment yesterday! I had a REALLY bad feeling about my bike all of a sudden as I was riding it home from college.. literally I was considering going home a different way from what I would normally do once I got down the stretch of road I was on... unfortunately right near the bottom my steering went completely wierd - almost uncontrollable... so I had to get off and push it the rest of the way (I'd guess just over a mile).

My tyre managed to get a puncture on the end of the road (which was straight) right before the roundabout..

But yeah.. I really had a feeling about something happening.. wierd.

Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

Why would you assume that we have these abilities when we are young, but lose them as we age?

Well because little kids have them, and adults don't.
I know that sounds stupid, but talk to a kid and ask them what your color is. Some kids wont be able to see it, but the ones that do will give you the same color every time.

Originally Posted by Songbird

Well because little kids have them, and adults don't.
I know that sounds stupid, but talk to a kid and ask them what your color is. Some kids wont be able to see it, but the ones that do will give you the same color every time.

I've never seen any evidence for this, and I talk with a lot of kids. What ages are you referring to?

They are going on the theory that everybody is born with these abilities, making them not supernatural but perfectly natural. But, as we grow up, because of the society we live in, these abilities are not practiced, they are suppressed, and forgotten.

Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

Why would you assume that we have these abilities when we are young, but lose them as we age?

Simple as we age.

1. We are less able to learn(I'm sure many scientists can back this up, just like learning foreign languages is easier at a young age.)

2. We are introduced to "reality" also known as how our world is viewed by everyone at this point in time. If you taught someone their entire life something untrue, they would believe it.

This world generally hasn't looked at mystical, psychic powers very well, including burning people alive for such things during the middle ages and after... Do you remember being a kid being carefree and willing to believe anything is possible and constantly being told no that's impossible?

Am I the only one who can see what is going on? The "secret" has long been hidden from the general population, while the "in" have known about it forever. At points in time people were locked up in jail as "Crazies" for believing in stuff like this. Society has officially shunned such behavior. Why? If it's all fake why worry? Mental asylums were full of some nuts and people "convinced" or just categorized as crazy. Notice asylums today are not nearly as full as they were during their heyday.

I'm on the same path as you DC.