Astral Projection?

[pmang6]

The other day I woke up normally at the normal time I would wake up (someone else woke me up though) then I quickly went back into a dose. I felt vibrations and I think I was in sleep paralysis then suddenly my consciousness felt as though it had sat up and out of my body! Then a wave of tingling came over (in the same way that you hear a jet fly close over the ground like gzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZGZGZGZ) then I woke up. Was this an astral projection? Thanks for the help!!

[neomisbahk1]

Nope, sounds more like a hypnic jerk : Hypnic jerk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[pmang6]

Nope, sounds more like a hypnic jerk : Well I didn't physically move so I don't think thats it....

[neomisbahk1]

Well I didn't physically move so I don't think thats it.... You don't necessarily move during a hypnic jerk.

[gab]

I'm sorry, but hypnic jerk is just that. A jerk, a twich, involuntary movement. Quite different than what OP is describing. Although it does happen at onset of sleep. The vibreations can be felt before lucid dreams or OBEs. When you felt your body sit up, it could have been OBE, or you just felt very relaxed and you lost track of your sleeping body. I'm leaning towards OBE, though. The loud sounds can be experienced as you falling asleep, if your body falls asleep before your mind does. Have you experienced OBE/AP before? There are some great books on the subject, if interested, also websites. Let me know and I'll list them if you like. Edit: I have listed some of them in this recent post.

[pmang6]

Oh haha I didn't actually hear anything! I was just that was the "pattern" that the tingling came on in! And nope no prior obe/ld/ap experience (although hopefully the ld part of that will change tonight!). NOTE: I couldn't see anything during this it just looked like my eyes were closed.

[neomisbahk1]

I'm sorry, but hypnic jerk is just that. A jerk, a twich, involuntary movement. Quite different than what OP is describing. Although it does happen at onset of sleep. Sounds exactly like all of my Hypnic Jerks. I'm at the point between sleep and wake, I can feel the nonsensical thoughts popping in and out. All of a sudden my body feels paralysed and I'm floating free. I start to feel vibrations and a single point of light in my vision explodes in a starburst, while the vibrations peak. And then it stops, I feel the feeling of falling and I'm back asleep. I've almost never moved during any hypnic jerk, it's been mostly the feeling of falling and a bungee cord like snap. although hopefully the ld part of that will change tonight! If you keep getting jerks like this, then you are indeed close! Try to form a dream in your mind or follow the dream thoughts into a dream, and then make your own. It sounds like you had a very quick wbtb/wild attempt.

[nqwDE]

a Hypnic Jerks is the astral body going out of the physical body, but then you become conscious and it "pops" back in and you jerk.

[gab]

Sounds exactly like all of my Hypnic Jerks. I'm at the point between sleep and wake, I can feel the nonsensical thoughts popping in and out. All of a sudden my body feels paralysed and I'm floating free. I start to feel vibrations and a single point of light in my vision explodes in a starburst, while the vibrations peak. And then it stops, I feel the feeling of falling and I'm back asleep. I've almost never moved during any hypnic jerk, it's been mostly the feeling of falling and a bungee cord like snap. . Is there any chance you are thinking about HH - hypnagogic hallucinations? Because that's exactly what you are describing. Vibrations, images... And although both hypnic jerk and WILD can have falling sensation, they are two different things, and they feel completely different. Hypnic jerk - yes, I have heard explanation, that it happens when we are already astral traveling and for some reason our body snaps back and makes us physically jerk/twich. I have also heard, that this sudden falling sensation, it also feels as if you tripped/stumbled and you trying to move your leg to regain balance is a remnant from the times, when we were ape like creatures living in trees. The worst thing was back then I guess to fall off the tree while sleeping. But the falling sensation you are describing, is more of a free fall sensation, like falling through your mattress, or down the well. And yes, that happens when between awake and asleep and you are very close to lucid dream. It's actually one of the methods of entering WILD lucid dream. This is from Wiki page you linked above. A hypnic jerk, hypnagogic jerk, sleep start, or night start, is an involuntary twitch which occurs during hypnagogia, just as a person is beginning to fall asleep, often causing them to awaken suddenly for a moment. Physically, hypnic jerks resemble the "jump" experienced by a person when startled,[1] often accompanied by a falling sensation and a hypnic jerk occurs during the non-REM sleep cycle and is an "abrupt muscle action flexing movement, generalized or partial and asymmetric, which may cause arousal, with an illusion of falling So hypnic jerk is involuntary muscle movement. You do move - hence the term 'jerk'.

[neomisbahk1]

Thanks for the info! [And not tearing my throat out in the process] I thought the two were one and the same. It's funny cause you quoted the same wiki article that I posted. Makes me think I should read more before posting =].

[gab]

Thanks for the info! [And not tearing my throat out in the process] I thought the two were one and the same. It's funny cause you quoted the same wiki article that I posted. Makes me think I should read more before posting =]. Haha, I know, that's some crazy stuff we can experience when paying attention to falling asleep proces. If you interested in how to enter LD from sensations, here is something I wrote up. Sensations, HH and types of entry into lucid. happy dreams