Thread: What's more amazing?

Whichever one is true is the more amazing one. =P.

Originally Posted by Sandform

Whichever one is true is the more amazing one. =P.

I'd say the opposite. Believing in things that aren't true is so much cooler than silly scientific facts.

I think it is amazing that we can take the flood of input from all our senses, and create a seemingly solid, reliable and convincing world from it. I'm just talking about our ability to construct our waking, physical life.

The fact that dreams can feel as real as our waking lives is just icing on the cake. We have had so much practice creating a convincing world, we can even do it in our sleep! We are so good at it, we don't even need the "real" input that started the whole process in the first place.

Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

I think it is amazing that we can take the flood of input from all our senses, and create a seemingly solid, reliable and convincing world from it. I'm just talking about our ability to construct our waking, physical life.

The fact that dreams can feel as real as our waking lives is just icing on the cake. We have had so much practice creating a convincing world, we can even do it in our sleep! We are so good at it, we don't even need the "real" input that started the whole process in the first place.

Dreams and halusinations are different by what i have heard over the years. Dreams are ever changing, while them halu's are always a constant non changing thing. A blood deprived brain produces halu's, while sleeping transforms 1 thing into a billion other things and has attatchments. One is caused by lack of blood/oxygen, the other is caused by your memories colliding, and i'm assuming dreams are always different is because your thinking pattern is ALWAYS different...one second you are thinking of 1 thing, the next something completly different...sometimes it's embarrassing to say what you are thinking, other times you are afraid of being labeled, etc, etc, etc.

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

Dreams and halusinations are different by what i have heard over the years. Dreams are ever changing, while them halu's are always a constant non changing thing. A blood deprived brain produces halu's, while sleeping transforms 1 thing into a billion other things and has attatchments. One is caused by lack of blood/oxygen, the other is caused by your memories colliding, and i'm assuming dreams are always different is because your thinking pattern is ALWAYS different...one second you are thinking of 1 thing, the next something completly different...sometimes it's embarrassing to say what you are thinking, other times you are afraid of being labeled, etc, etc, etc.

No, dreams are sometimes considered a form of normal hallicination. While dreaming, our memory and other cognitive functions vary, and it is possible that these also trigger mentations that we call dreams. The physiological basis of spantaneous sources (which I call hallucinations ), may be differences in oxygen, blood supply, other nutrients or even abberant electrical / chemical stimuli. These are not constant, and even ill hallucinations change according to influence of surrounding sensory stimuli. Whatever the sources of these dreams / mentations are, is not yet scientifically pinned down to one exact occurrence. Dead brain tissue is not an option since it does not "work" by definition. It may not even be something we know yet to exist physiologically. OBEs testify to an extra-corporeal possibility. As a scientific being I have to keep this in consideration. The borders between healthy and ill hallucinations are vague if we consider them to be some form of spontaneous stimuli that illicit further cognition. But this is how far I can clarify the terms for myself. It will be interesting to see more opinions.